Summary

Show Notes

• The era of ministry flowing through one dominant voice is ending
• God is forming a many-membered, anointed family
• This move is initiated by God—not human innovation
• The anointing is common to the whole body, not a select few
• Oneness produces greater revelation and greater anointing
• Old religious structures are being dismantled, not repaired
• God is creating something entirely new by His Spirit
• Spiritual growth and transformation happen in community, not isolation
• Every believer has a function and carries life for the body
• Hunger, faith, and seeking God are the doorway into this reality
• The body of Christ is designed for mutual impartation and support
• Weakness is met with strength through shared life in the Spirit
• Christ alone is the Head—ministry flows from Him through His body

Key Quotes

• “The ministry is going to come out of the family.”
• “This is not human maneuvering—God is creating this.”
• “It’s not a few anointed leaders and many unanointed followers.”
• “The anointing and the revelation grow as the oneness grows.”
• “God doesn’t want to fix what’s broken—He wants to create something new.”
• “You’re not going to do this independently.”
• “We are all ministries in the house of the Lord.”
• “You can’t walk this out alone—you need the body.”
• “The connection is in the Lord, not in background or structure.”
• “It will be a collective people speaking a living word.”

Scriptural References

• 1 Corinthians12 (12–27)– One body, many members, each equally necessary
• Ephesians4 (15–16)– The body growing as each part supplies life
• Romans12 (4–5)– Many members, one body in Christ
• John12 (24)– Life coming forth through death
• Matthew16 (24–25)– Losing life to find it
• John15 (5)– Life flowing from connection to Christ
• Acts2 (42–47)– Corporate life, unity, and spiritual impartation
• Hebrews10 (24–25)– Exhorting and strengthening one another
• Matthew7 (7–8)– Seeking, knocking, and hungering for God
• 1 John2 (20, 27)– The anointing shared among believers

Takeaway

Ken:

Yeah, there have been many times in the past where we've had many strong leaders and people that would command attention, and you would hear the word or the ministry—whatever it was—out of one man. And that day has ended.

The ministry is going to come out of the family. It's going to come out of the people that have been given to the Lord in a level of oneness themselves, and then connecting to each other in that same connection with the Lord.

Ron:

I was thinking about this corporate anointing, or this body of Christ, this family that God is creating and bringing forth. What's really key to me is that He's bringing it forth.

People didn't say, “Oh, this didn't work and that didn't work, so now let's try this.” No, it's not human maneuvering or ingenuity.

Debbie:

Right!

Ron:

We are proclaiming a vision declaration from the heart of God because God's creating this, and we're basically mouthpieces to speak His word and the vision of the many-membered body.

So it needs to be clear in people's minds that God is the potter and we are the clay, and He's giving us an expanded vision—that it's not a few anointed leaders and a bunch of unanointed followers that follow them.

It's a family that all are anointed. This is God doing this at this time in His plan—the Age of Spirit. We're in the Age of Spirit, so that makes the whole transition.

But really, from the soulish physical age to the Spirit age, and as we're in this transition, we're also transitioning into an anointed people. And with that anointing, that common anointing, comes the oneness.

Ken:

It's a very interesting time because it's difficult, I think, for the soul nature—the human being, man nature—to actually accept this kind of thing, because we're so ready with our own interpretation of what God's speaking based on our own thinking.

But this is way beyond that. This is our connection with the Lord Jesus Christ as the head of the body, who's speaking through a many-membered body under the anointing of the Holy Spirit, speaking a word from God.

Ron:

It is a plane of revelation, and it's a plane of anointing. And the anointing and the revelation grow as the oneness grows. The oneness grows, the revelation and the anointing grow.

Ken:

I think in order to walk in this thing we're talking about—I'll call it a thing, but it's the body of Christ—you have to lay down your own ideas about what you did or what you thought from yesterday and really open your heart to the Lord for Him to reveal to you the things that He wants to speak through individuals.

And yet we're not individuals. We're a collective body. It's like a puzzle piece. We've talked about that before. Each part of the puzzle puts in their own piece and speaks a word God is speaking to them.

Ron:

If there's those out there—which I'm sure there are—that have been part of old structures that have worked for them, have worked for them for years and years and years, and all of a sudden they're finding those structures being dismantled, it may be because God's trying to bring you into something new.

So don't focus on the old and the thing that's crumbling. Focus on the Lord and find out where He is trying to lead you into. He's dismantling the old and creating the new.

That's a hard concept for most people to even wrap their brains around because they want to fix what's broken. And God doesn't want to fix what's broken. He wants to get rid of what's broken and create something brand spanking new.

That's what we're talking about when we're talking about a mighty people. He's not fixing us. He's killing the old nature, and He is creating at the same time His nature within us, which is brand new.

Ken:

So He's creating a mighty people. But did He start with the mighty people? No, He did not.

He started with a little child who opened his heart to the Lord and who asked the Lord to come into his life and to lead him by the Spirit. In fact, Jesus said, “If you really want to live, first you must die.”

What He meant by dying is you have to die to an old day, an old level, an old nature. And when you die to that, then you come into a new life—a life that's full of God and full of the leading of the Holy Spirit.

God speaks through you and ministers to you and to the rest of the family, and they do the same.

Ron:

What you just talked about, Ken—the dying out and the coming forth and the new nature—you’re not going to do that independently.

You are going to do that in the atmosphere of a group of people that God raises up, and He's going to raise every single one of them up and bring them all together by His Spirit.

It's not joining a church. It's not joining a group. Even listening to a good word and then going out and trying to do it yourself—that day is done.

Now it's coming forth in a body, and that's why there's the call of the Spirit out there calling people into anointed groups all over the world. I believe God's raising up anointed groups that are all hungering and thirsting after Him.

Ken:

I think there are many people that are reaching into the revelation that we're speaking of. How do you actually enter into this?

I think it's a leap of faith, for one thing. But I think it's a hungering and thirsting after more that God wants to speak to your own heart and then through you.

Actually, we are all ministries in the house of the Lord. There's no distinction between one part or the other. Even though you may be a hand, you're just as equal as a kidney.

Ron:

How do you get into these things? It's a huge question. And I think it really is hunger. It's faith—faith in God—and it's hunger.

It's searching. It's seeking—not things, but seeking Him.

Debbie:

If you want to enter into the kingdom of God, which is the time we're in now—the Age of Spirit—then you have to be willing to open up your heart and be led of the Lord.

Hear what He's saying to His body. He's saying, “Come together. Function. Be healthy. Be strong. Know Me as the head. Function in the place that I put you.”

All of us have a function and a place. How do you get that? You open up your heart and be led of the Holy Spirit.

It's something that we go after and continue to go after. Seek and keep on seeking. Knock and keep on knocking. Give me eyes to see. Give me a heart just open and responsive.

Ron:

There's got to be a drive. This is a drive. This is a hunger to enter into the kingdom. It is a hunger and a thirst for Him.

Ken:

When you come into a collective group of the body of Christ, you are all committed to that total discipleship and connection to the Lord Jesus Christ.

There's something in your heart with each other that you open up to beyond all of your understanding from the past, and all of a sudden the lights come on and you speak a word and there's confirmation, and you say, “That was a word from God.”

Those are the things—the mysteries—that you can reach into.

Ron:

When you're in an atmosphere with a group of people that are all committed and set—none perfect, none's got it all together—and you get together and you're hungry and thirsting, if you're one that says, “I'm weary,” guess what happens?

You get impartation. You get life imparted to you. And the next time, maybe you're the one that imparts life to your brother or sister.

We don't want to paint a picture of a strong people that never fail, that are always hungering for God, just driven and so committed. That's the vision. But guess what? We don't get there from here.

Debbie:

We're still human.

Ron:

Exactly. We are still human, and we still have weaknesses. Part of the point of the body of Christ is we hold one another up.

We speak the word of the Lord to one another and impart to one another. We receive an impartation from the Holy Spirit when we're in need.

That's why it's so important that people, when they listen to this podcast, that they don't go off individually and think they can walk it out. You can't walk it out as an individual.

You can hunger. You can thirst. But you've got to find somebody. You've got to find a group that are hungry.

Ken:

You have to find a group of people that love the Lord their God with all their hearts and are just seeking God together.

They're open to the Lord—totally open to the Lord and to the Lord and each other. And when you find that combination, you can hear a word from God coming out of that group through each individual part.

The body is going to be made up of a lot of different kinds of people. They're going to have different backgrounds, different ways of coming into this. But the idea is their connection with you will be in the Lord.

This is the way the anointed body goes forward. It's because of the anointing and the leading of the Lord in each member of that fellowship, that group of people that have come together to worship the Lord, to love the Lord, and to receive from Him a way forward in this new day.

It's going to be a collective group of people that all speak a living word, that all move in the anointing God puts within them to speak that word.