J&T are joined by Dr. Nicholas Klemen, a surgical oncologist who works at the National Cancer Institute (NCI) which is a branch of the National Institute of Health (NIH) in Bethesda, MD. The main topics of discussion are:

-addressing the concerns (or not) from those who choose to not get the COVID vaccine

-a deeper dive into what cancer actually is and how the body deals with it

-the hypocritical expectation of perfection in our society (data does change over time)

-Hepatitis C was cured 5 yrs ago! (the only chronic viral infection to ever have been cured)

-Why have some republicans recently embraced the vaccine?

-Liz Cheney

-and last but not least - a brief chat on Climate change!

Thanks to Dr Klemens for taking the time to join us and provide some actual expertise for a change! Email us at thejonandtomshow@gmail.com if you have any questions, comments, or if you would like to be a guest on the next episode.

Thanks for listening!