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What Utah Radio Can Teach Us All | Guest: McCall Taylor, Utah's 94.5 VFX
Episode 1838th May 2023 • Brandwidth On Demand • David Martin & Kipper McGee
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This time we head west where McCall Taylor, radio show host for Utah's 94.5 VFX, breaks the misconception of radio's decline and explores its transition into a new era across various platforms. McCall's genuine commitment to community-building shines as she encourages listeners to fearlessly express themselves online. Engaging with her audience through Q&A, personal growth advice, and relatable stories, McCall creates an inclusive podcast community. By incorporating feedback and sharing valuable resources, she fosters a strong bond with her listeners. Join McCall on this empowering journey of connection and self-discovery as she challenges traditional radio norms and embraces the limitless possibilities of storytelling in the digital age.

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McCall:

Well, one day the secretary of the radio station came in to deposit a check

McCall:

and I said, Hey, how do I get a job there?

McCall:

She said, come in, talk to the boss and we'll see what we can do.

McCall:

So I came in, talked to the boss.

McCall:

I interned for about a month or so, and then the afternoon guy went to jail.

McCall:

So I got his job.

Kipper:

So whoa, whoa, whoa.

Kipper:

Went to jail.

Kipper:

Went to jail.

VO:

Welcome to BRANDwidth On Demand, your Guide to Rebooting Radio.

McCall:

I mean, I wish I knew how.

McCall:

Radio was going to adapt into the social media climate of things because

McCall:

I know there's some radio stations that are adapting and there's a lot

McCall:

who still have denied, denied, denied that it's coming, that there's this.

McCall:

Transition period that's happening right now.

VO:

BRANDwidth On Demand, rebooting radio with a different take on all radio can be.

VO:

Now your guides through the Mediamorphosis, David Martin and

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author of the book, BRANDwidth Media Branding, coach Kipper McGee.

Dave:

This time we had to Utah, where today's guest was born and raised.

Dave:

She grew up dreaming of being.

Dave:

On air because of her passion for music, she got the opportunity to

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chase her crazy radio dream and join the morning show on Utah's 94 5 vfx.

Dave:

The first incarnation of her show was formerly known as AJ and McCall.

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Then after some typical radio changes, the show evolved into a married

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couple, Joey and Warren with McCall.

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She's an adventure seeker, lable things furry, and she sassies all get out.

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As a matter of fact, literally just pumped about life.

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She believes you can achieve anything with hard workers

Dave:

termination and a positive attitude.

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And she lives by the motto.

Dave:

There will always be people who tell you you can't, which you gotta do in

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that moment is looking right in the eye.

Dave:

And say, watch me, BRANDwidth On Demand is proud to welcome McCall Taylor.

Dave:

Hey McCall.

Kipper:

Hey McCall.

McCall:

Hi.

McCall:

Thanks for having me.

Kipper:

So clearly you have a passion for media.

Kipper:

So why don't you tell us a little bit more about how you got that first job at

Kipper:

94 7 VFX, you know, kind of just tell us how that happened, how'd it come about?

McCall:

Yeah, so I actually started in Vernal, super small town in eastern

McCall:

Utah and I was working at a bank, moved in with my boyfriend out there.

McCall:

And there was a radio station out there, super eclectic, and I thought,

McCall:

you know, I love this radio station.

McCall:

I think it would be awesome to work at.

McCall:

Well, one day the secretary of the radio station came in to deposit a check and

McCall:

I said, Hey, how do I get a job there?

McCall:

She said, come in, talk to the boss and we'll see what we can do.

McCall:

So I came in, talked to the boss.

McCall:

I interned for.

McCall:

About a month or so, and then the afternoon guy went to

McCall:

jail, so I got his job, so

Kipper:

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Kipper:

What time?

Kipper:

I went to jail.

Kipper:

Went to jail.

McCall:

It's a typical radio shenanigan though, right?

Kipper:

Oh, he was just playing.

McCall:

Yeah.

McCall:

Yeah.

McCall:

You know?

Kipper:

Okay.

Kipper:

Maybe we shouldn't ask.

McCall:

No, no.

McCall:

Anyway, after that, I ended up applying for this position in the morning show

McCall:

up at uh, 94 5 VFX in Logan, and just right time, right place type situation,

McCall:

fell into the morning show and.

McCall:

I've been here for just over five years.

Kipper:

So with the show as it is right now, you got a married couple and you,

Kipper:

so who does what and how's, how do you divvy up the, uh, workload off air?

McCall:

Oh, off air.

McCall:

So currently the morning show, it's like a syndicated morning show.

McCall:

So I'm doing a lot of the segueing of the on air and then the updates

McCall:

of the news, the weather, just local information, traffic and all of that.

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And then, Outside of that, just prepping my own shows.

Kipper:

Okay.

Kipper:

Does Joey and Lauren are like all the Cash stations or is it running

Kipper:

on a full network or what's the deal?

McCall:

So they're on in Boise right now, and then we're one of the first

McCall:

stations to pick up their morning show.

Kipper:

Interesting.

Kipper:

Okay.

Dave:

Being in a smaller but really important market.

Dave:

Mm-hmm.

Dave:

The company you work for, Cash Valley Media Group has a number of radio brands

Dave:

along with a publishing, the award-winning best of Northern Utah Magazine and a lot

Dave:

of clusters, people wear multiple hats.

Dave:

What other duties do you have besides the morning show there?

McCall:

So I'm on the night show as well, six to 10:00 PM and that started back

McCall:

in February and then, Outside of that, I help with some of the social media stuff.

McCall:

We've created a new page to try and highlight some of the local things.

McCall:

What's up?

McCall:

It's called What's Up Cash Valley.

McCall:

Just whatever's going on within like the Cash Valley area and

McCall:

the vicinity, just to try and.

McCall:

Gotta get our hands into everything because obviously

McCall:

radio is such a powerhouse.

McCall:

But I think it's really important to also let people on the internet remember

McCall:

that radios can be a powerhouse.

Kipper:

So McCall radio is really an industry going through some

Kipper:

big changes, as we all know.

Kipper:

So the question is how do you navigate shifting the concept and

Kipper:

casting of the V M X Morning show?

Kipper:

How, how do you get through all of that?

Kipper:

And what advice might you give to others who find themselves

Kipper:

in a similar situation?

McCall:

Well, I think that radio as a whole, obviously the conversation

McCall:

people always say is radio's dying.

McCall:

Radio's not really dying.

McCall:

We're just kind of transcending into a new era, you know?

McCall:

Uh, storytelling has always been around.

McCall:

We've been telling stories from the time that we figured out how to

McCall:

write on cave walls, and now we're in this area of, well, how do we now?

McCall:

Translate our on-air bits to social media or to our websites.

McCall:

And it's the same kind of thing.

McCall:

It's just storytelling on a different platform.

McCall:

And so I think, uh, not being afraid of getting out there and actually,

McCall:

and making a fool of yourself on the internet, I think is just my biggest

McCall:

piece of advice as far as that goes, to transcend everything else because like,

McCall:

we obviously know how important radio is.

McCall:

We know how important it is to help impact the lives of other people.

McCall:

And it's like, we can do it.

McCall:

Anywhere now.

McCall:

Oh,

Dave:

McCall is streaming and podcasting.

Dave:

You know, it's pretty easy to check out what other shows and other

Dave:

markets are doing or even podcasts.

Dave:

What are some of the ones that you like to sample and what makes,

Dave:

uh, them one of your favorite?

Dave:

A station, a show, or a podcast?

McCall:

Um, I really enjoy the Miguel and Holly Show.

McCall:

I love them.

McCall:

I love that their whole focus is positivity and uplift.

McCall:

I also really like Frankie and Jess in Salt Lake.

McCall:

I've been listening to them since I was young, and so I like listening to them

McCall:

because they've created this like family.

McCall:

I think the, the family type.

McCall:

Aspect of some of these different radio stations and morning shows

McCall:

and podcasts is what I really enjoy.

McCall:

Cool.

Kipper:

So getting back to VFX, I noticed the station does a lot of cool promotional

Kipper:

stuff and events and all over the place.

Kipper:

Can you give us an example of something that was a big hit with

Kipper:

the audience and what made it great?

McCall:

Um, some of the things that we've done in the past, we've created a.

McCall:

We call it the back to school tour.

McCall:

And so we had a high school that got started and opened about five years

McCall:

ago in the Valley and they thought, you know, it would be cool to have

McCall:

the morning show come bring donuts or whatever and celebrate this opening

McCall:

of this new high school, cuz there was kind of some pushback with it.

McCall:

Anyway, we have done this for about four years now and we have gone to

McCall:

each of the high schools in the valley.

McCall:

There's five of them in the valley.

McCall:

And then we've kind of extended outside into some of the other listening areas.

McCall:

So I know at one point we did 10 high schools or 11 high schools in the span

McCall:

of two weeks, basically going to each one of the high schools, welcoming

McCall:

back to school, giving 'em donuts.

McCall:

We did a spirit competition, and that one's been really impactful, I think,

McCall:

because there's a lot of kids I know.

McCall:

For me growing up, I loved listening to the radio.

McCall:

I always wanted to meet the jocks that were working, but.

McCall:

We weren't ever in the area where the jocks were broadcasting live.

McCall:

So to have that extra step is really cool.

McCall:

Cause I grew up in this area.

McCall:

I grew up about 20 minutes outside of Logan.

McCall:

Mm-hmm.

McCall:

And so to, to be able to actually do that and kind of raise up the community that I

McCall:

lived in is what is directly to my soul.

Dave:

Do you have folks that you grew up with, McCall that listen to you now?

McCall:

Yeah, it's kind of interesting cuz it's always like the people

McCall:

that I went to high school with that didn't want anything to do with

McCall:

me, and then they're like, oh hey,

Kipper:

you're best friends now.

Kipper:

That's right.

Kipper:

Yeah.

Kipper:

They want those, those concert tickets.

McCall:

Yeah, all the time.

McCall:

All the time.

McCall:

But.

McCall:

No, there's, there's other ones that I went to high school with

McCall:

that have been really supportive the entire time, so that's great.

McCall:

Uhhuh,

Dave:

We are with McCall Taylor from Utah's ninety four five, VFX,

Dave:

somebody you'd love to hear from.

Dave:

We'd love to hear your suggestions.

Dave:

Email us show@brandwidthondemand.com.

Kipper:

And, we'd love to hear your thoughts.

Kipper:

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Kipper:

By checking out BRANDwidth Plus, that's BRANDwidth . P L U S.

Kipper:

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Kipper:

look forward to seeing you there.

Dave:

Coming up McCall shares the one thing she knows now.

Dave:

She really wishes she knew way back when.

VO:

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. Dave: We're with McCall Taylor.

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Hey McCall.

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Thinking about your career so far, what's the one thing you know

VO:

now that you really wish you'd known way back when you started?

McCall:

It's a tough question.

McCall:

It's a doozy.

McCall:

I think radio in general has this kind of a preconceived notion that.

McCall:

People in the industry are out to get each other.

McCall:

And I think when I first started out in radio, that was what I thought was that

McCall:

the company down the street was the enemy.

McCall:

They were the worst people that ever existed.

McCall:

All of that chicanery and you know, when it comes down to ratings and

McCall:

stuff, I guess I get it, but at the end of the day, the people that I've

McCall:

reached out to and have been able to reach out to have been so supportive

McCall:

and they're such a beautiful.

McCall:

Just a beautiful nature around radio because there, there's something

McCall:

about being in a room of people who are passionate about the same

McCall:

thing that you're passionate about.

McCall:

That's just magic.

McCall:

And so many people just wanna see other people succeed within the industry.

McCall:

And I, I wish I had known that before.

Kipper:

Following up on that, what do you wish you knew today about what's

Kipper:

gonna be the case in 10 or 15 years?

McCall:

Oh man.

McCall:

I mean, I, I wish I knew how.

McCall:

Radio was going to adapt into the social media climate of things because I know

McCall:

there's some radio stations that are adapting and there's a lot who still have.

McCall:

Denied.

McCall:

Denied.

McCall:

Denied that it's coming, that there's this transition period that's happening

McCall:

right now, and I wish I knew how that was all gonna play out because I

McCall:

think I would end up making decisions based on that for my own career.

Dave:

Terrific talent.

Dave:

Kipper...

Dave:

McCall Taylor from Utah's 94.5 VFX.

Dave:

We've got links to McCall's Station, some of their great promotions and more.

Dave:

All in the show notes.

Dave:

Just scroll down on your phone.

Kipper:

As always, our thanks to exec producer Cindy Huber for putting all the

Kipper:

magic together and to associate producer Hannah B for booking and coming up next.

VO:

Hey, this is Scotty Kay from US 99 Chicago, and on the next BRANDwidth On

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Demand, I wanna talk to you about how you can make a one man show sound like

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and be as successful as the big shows.

Dave:

That's a wrap Kipper.

Dave:

What can we learn from the State Fair?

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You'd be surprised.

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It's all in One Minute Martinizing in the show notes@BRANDwidthOnDemand.com.

Dave:

I'm Dave Martin.

Kipper:

And I'm Kipper McGee.

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