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REMASTERED: Values Driven Leadership, with Dina Dwyer-Owens (Franchising, Business, Morals, Ethics)
Episode 18628th January 2025 • The Action Catalyst • Southwestern Family of Podcasts
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Author, speaker, and franchising leader Dina Dwyer-Owens opens up about creating a code of values BEFORE you launch a business, re-earning your position every day, how to live R.I.C.H. and scale in franchising, and why to gamify your processes.

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I am honored today to introduce to you somebody who is

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not only a thought leader, but much more importantly, a

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practitioner. Dina Dwyer Owens, you may recognize her as faith

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brown on Undercover Boss, which was one of the most popular

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episodes from that reality TV show. She's also an author, and

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we're going to talk about some of her stuff today around her

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first book was called live rich and then values. Inc, her real

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life job as the co chair of the Dwyer Group, which is a billion

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dollar, well over a billion dollar organization that is in

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sort of the franchise space. Anyways, I'm excited and

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honored. Dina, welcome to the show.

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Dina Dwyer-Owens: Thank you. I'm the one who's honored here. I so

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appreciate the opportunity to share with all your listeners

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about what's most important to me at the Dwyer Group.

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Yeah. So how did the Dwyer group get started?

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Dina Dwyer-Owens: Well, my father, Don Dwyer founded the

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company in 1981 and he had a vision for having a collection

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of Franchise Businesses basically serving the same

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customer base. And he was just so clear about his vision, his

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mission and his values. In fact, his mission statement still

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lives on today, and that's to teach our principles and

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systems. Franchising is all about systems of personal and

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business success, so that all people we touch live happier,

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more successful lives. So it's a great way to wake up every day.

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We're in the business of helping people have a better quality of

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life. We just happen to use franchising as our vehicle to do

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that. And when Don founded the company, he also had always been

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a student of leadership. Those listening are all students of

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leadership. Here. We all want to get better. And Don said, How do

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I really start this company off right with the right foundation?

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And what he had learned by studying great leaders was that

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they were always clear about their values, and that they put

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their values in writing, and then they put their values to

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work, and they worked hard to practice those values day in and

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day. In and day out. So when he launched the business in 81 he

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launched it with what he coined his code of values. And you

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know, looking back, there are probably more emotionally based

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beliefs, things like loyalty as meaning to our lives. We must

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count our blessings every day in every way, and one that I will

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never forget. And unfortunately, we lost Don in 1994 but one

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value as a kid growing up in his business was re earning our

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position every day in every way. So he always said, celebrate the

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victories of the past. Learn from the mistakes, but be better

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today than you were yesterday. So Don, again, had this vision,

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and he began to build the company with rainbow

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International, which was the flagship Company, which was back

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then, a carpet dying and cleaning company. So we could

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come into your house, if you had that good old tan shag carpeting

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and you wanted it to take care of some stains, we could make

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that a nice brown shag carpeting. That industry has

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changed. So rainbow today is a restoration and carpet cleaning

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company mostly focused on fire and fly restoration. And then he

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bought a company called Mr. Reuter, and it was actually a

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penny stock that he ended up doing a reverse merger on in 93

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and took the company public, started up some brands like Mr.

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Electric and air serve and Mr. Appliance. And after his

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passing, we bought a company called the glass doctor. And

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from there, the grounds guys and Mr. Handyman and Molly made and

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five star painting, and I'm probably forgetting some Window

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Genie. So today, our key business is being a values

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guided world leader of franchise brands that focus on enhancing,

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repairing and maintaining customers, homes and businesses.

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But my mind still to net it all out. It's about helping anybody

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we touch have a better quality of life. And again, franchising

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is the vehicle we happen to use to do that, whether it's

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touching our franchisees lives, our customers lives, our vendors

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lives, it's all about making a positive impact.

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Yeah. So talk to me about "live rich". Okay, so you you

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use that a lot. Rich is actually an acronym.

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Dina Dwyer-Owens: So in 1993 I mentioned we took our company

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public, which was a big step for our founder and my father, and

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then, unfortunately, in 1994 he died of a sudden heart attack at

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the age of 60. So quite a young man. So one of the things that

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we knew as a leadership team was we had to keep this culture

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special. It's what attracted the strong franchisees we had. It's

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what attracted the great team that. We had, they were aligned

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in those values. So we knew we had to keep that foundation

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strong. We took Don's original values, his belief system, and

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we operationalized it. So that's where rich came from, and rich

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stands for respect, integrity, customer focus and having fun in

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the process. So when we say we live rich at the Dwyer group. Of

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course, we're in business to make money at the end of the

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day, but it's about how we treat people, and when we treat people

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with respect and dignity, we provide a quality of product or

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service profits. The profits are the applause We get. As my

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friend Ken Blanchard would say, I have to say we're guilty of,

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over the years, going down some bunny trails you get excited

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about other businesses that are franchisable or franchise, and

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yet our teams had to come back stay focused on what we're

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really great at, and that's these home service type

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businesses.

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What do you think is the difference between the companies

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that successfully franchise and they start to successfully

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scale, and then the ones that can never really create that

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scale?

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Dina Dwyer-Owens: Yeah, a couple of things. You know, it has a

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lot to do with the people. People are a pedigree at the

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Dwyer group and at all franchise companies, because it takes the

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people to create the systems and then coach the franchisees to

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those systems. So at Dwyer, and again, a franchise, you're

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right. It's all about taking What's complicated about

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business and streamlining that into a system or process, then

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training to that system or process and making sure people

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are living up to it. And then, unfortunately, these are

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independent small business owners. Every franchisee is a

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small business owner and and even though we want them all to

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follow the systems perfectly, that's not going to happen.

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It'll never happen. We have 2800 franchises today. The majority

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of them do a beautiful job living by the system, and those

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are the ones realizing the most success. But unfortunately, some

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feel like they've got their own ideas, and you coach them up,

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and if you can't coach them up to follow the systems, you have

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to coach them out, because it's not fair to the other franchises

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who are committed to delivering the brand promise, which is

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really what the systems do. And if I talk just for a second

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about the distinction about the Dwyer group's core values, we

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would not be where we are today. We've grown at a pace of about

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50% the last three years, some of that through acquisition, but

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a lot of that through organic growth. And if it weren't for

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the alignment of our team around our core values, I don't think

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we could be here, because it's one thing to have great systems,

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but if you don't have great people that really believe in

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those systems and believe in delivering that value to the

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customer, you're right. That is who we're competing with. We're

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competing with who's going to solve the customer's problems,

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even around our values, we had to create a system for keeping

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those values front and center. We learned our lesson when Don

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Dwyer passed away in 94 he was the one who would hold us

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accountable to the original values. So he'd let you know if

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he felt you were loyal today or you weren't. You know the values

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weren't that black and white. Well, today, our values are very

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clear. One of our values is continuously striving to

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maximize internal and external customer loyalty. And the

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internal customers are our employee. The external customer

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is you, the person who's calling us to your home or business to

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take care of, keeping your again, your home or business

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comfortable. So the values really have been the foundation

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for our success, but had we not put a system in place, we

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wouldn't be where we are today. And I think people make this

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more complicated than they need to, but they're not in

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franchising. So, you know, as a franchise organization, we

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always think about system, systems, systems. If something's

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not working, it's probably because the system is not there

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or people haven't been trained to it. So we when we created the

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operationalized code of values, we knew as a leadership team,

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number one, we couldn't just throw them in the face of our

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employees and say, hey, look, starting today, these are going

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to be the new values we're going to follow. Instead, we said to

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our employees, and we didn't realize we were being so smart

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when we gamified our values, but we basically said to our

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employees, we think this is going to be the solution to

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keeping our culture special. We handed them handed them a

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laminated card. On one side of the card had the original

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values, Don's values. On the other side of the card had the

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new operationalized values, the rich values. And we said, we

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need your help for the next 90 days. We want you guys to study

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these values, and in order to show our commitment to you, we

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want you to give us feedback anytime you catch a management

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team member violating a value, we want you to give us a beep.

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And as silly as that sounds, it worked. So the employees really

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studied these values, much more than I would have ever imagined,

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because they loved the idea of catching their bosses doing

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something wrong. So if you could imagine the Road Runner running

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through our building for 90 days, that's what it sounded

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like around here. We were being beeped. It's just a verbal beep,

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beeped right and left, because we were so bad at the new

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operationalized values. So once we played that game, we brought

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the team back together, we asked them what they thought, and they

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loved it, and they added a value that I think is the toughest one

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we have today. But we said, okay, so going forward, because

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this, this. Not die. When the CEO of the company dies or the

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leadership team dies in this company, it's got to be

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sustainable. So let's create a system. We said, anytime we have

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the meeting of three or more of our team members or our

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franchisees, we're simply going to bring the values front and

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center in that meeting. So before we talk about anything

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else, we're going to either review all 15 values in our

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case, because they're really behavioral statements, if you

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want to think about them being that black and white, and

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sometimes we might just highlight a value that we're not

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so good at. Maybe we've gotten some feedback from a customer

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that we're not doing a great job responding in a timely fashion,

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for example, or maybe we highlight a team member who's

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gotten exceptional feedback. The bottom line is, at the beginning

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of every meeting of three or more, we should take a deep

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breath and reflect on our values. And most of our team

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members, not all of them, because we're a fast growing

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company, many of our team members can do that by heart

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with heart, as we call it. It's not just a memorization act. We

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want people to internalize the values so that when a problem

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occurs, what happens in your mind is you could write to a

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value, or maybe a number of values that can be the solution

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to the problem. We do it out loud, and sometimes, again,

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we'll go over all 15 values. Sometimes we'll just highlight

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the key areas, showing respect for all people, acting with

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integrity and all dealings and serving customers with

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enthusiasm. It just kind of depends on how many meetings

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you're in in a day. Sometimes it seems, oh, all 15 again. Can we?

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Can we just focus on one that we know we need to get better at?

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There's one that's very topical. You know, if you think about,

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we're having a meeting about customer service, but we want to

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talk about one of the values that has to do with customer

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loyalty.

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Okay, so let me play the devil's advocate here, right?

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Like we don't have the extra two minutes to spare to do this.

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What do you say to that?

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Dina Dwyer-Owens: This is what I say to the leader. You don't

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want to hear the whining. This is who we are. This is the only

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way that we're going to keep these values front and center,

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and the minute we start getting lazy about it, I liken it to

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people who do a good job of brushing their teeth, but they

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don't floss their teeth very often. And what happens when you

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don't floss your teeth very often? You get rot, you get

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decay. And what happens when you start having decay? It not only

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affects your teeth, it affects major organs in your body. And

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in my mind, it's up to the leader to stay firm on the fact

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that you've got to keep the values front and center, because

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the minute you quit flossing, you're going to get decay. You

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start getting decay. Organs start shutting down. Your body

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is not going to be at optimal health. It's the same thing with

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a franchise organization or any organization, the values have to

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remain front and center, and the minute we start getting lazy

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about it, we lose an opportunity to really be great when properly

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practice values inflict pain. They make some employees feel

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like outcast. They can limit an organization's strategic and

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operational freedom and constrain the behavior of its

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people. They leave executives open to heavy criticism for even

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minor violations, and they demand constant vigilance. So

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this value step is not for everybody. It's really not for

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the faint of heart. I have a quick example for you. I was

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just at a I'm on the board of lead like Jesus, which is a Ken

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Blanchard nonprofit organization. It's about

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teaching that Jesus is the greatest leadership role model

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of all times. It's not about being a believer in Jesus. You

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know that then he was a prophet for some but it's about the fact

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that he was such a great leader and and the founder and owner of

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all the Omni resorts, they shared a story about his values,

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and they said, here's the guy who goes up to his values, and

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the numbers is not what drives it, it's it's what's right,

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doing the right thing. So, you know, they have these terrible

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adult stations on TVs in these hotel rooms. They're poison.

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They're poison. And this guy was in one of his hotel rooms one

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night and realized they had these adult channels. You know,

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he doesn't know every single working of the the hotel can't

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possibly 30,000 employees a big, big operation. And he says, What

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are we doing here? Why do we have this? He got with his

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management team, and they disconnected all of the adult

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channels. Now that takes courage, but that's following

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your values all the way through. You know what? As a customer,

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guess where I'm going to stay? Because I respect that. He's got

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the courage to make that kind of decision, losing millions a year

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but not having the adult stations. But he's not really

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losing millions a year because he's living up to his values.

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What's most important? Because when you do that, it translates

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into financial results. We're proof of it. At the Dwyer group,

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we had a private equity partner who took us private in 2003 sold

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us in 2010 Three years later, came knocking on our door to buy

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us back, because they were having a hard time putting a new

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$1.5 billion fund they had raised to work with great

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companies, and they said, What we love about Dwyer is your

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culture, the mission that you have the leadership team. And of

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course, the growth opportunities are huge. Every franchisee has

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an opportunity to grow their business. My attitude, and I say

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this in the book a couple of times, the rewards are really

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too great to ignore. And is it easy? No, it's not easy, getting

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clarity about your vows. It's not easy making sure that you're

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leading with them, because we are human beings, and we fail

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every day. You know, every day, probably somebody could beat me

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for not living up to the value, to the degree that I should be,

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but I'm doing my best. I'm striving to live those and

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that's all we can ask of our team. And we're surrounded by

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people at Dwyer who work hard to live up to those values. Is

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every day our values have surrounded us with people that

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are like minded, that really care about that customer

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experience that you talked about early on. Without the values,

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though, we wouldn't be able to do this, I'm certain.

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Yeah, Dina, I do have one other question that I want to

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make sure to ask you. But before I do that, where do you want

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people to go to connect with you? You know, learn more.

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Dina Dwyer-Owens: Yeah, they can simply go to Dina Dwyer

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owens.com and it's D, W, y, E, R, owens.com.

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Okay, so here's our last question. Let's say there's

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somebody out there listening, and maybe they run a franchise,

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maybe they have a small business, maybe they are mid

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level manager at some large public organization, and they're

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not, they don't have ownership, but they have leadership to the

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leader that's out there listening right now. What action

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would you encourage them to immediately take?

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Dina Dwyer-Owens: The first action would be is discover if

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you do have clearly written values, because most of the

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time, organizations have done a lot of work, whether, again,

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it's a church or a for profit business, they've done a lot of

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work thinking about what's important to them. So I would

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say, dig those up. Dig those values up. Get with key leaders

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in that organization. It could even be a family. It could be a

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parent who's listening and sit down and talk about those,

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revisit them, polish them up, and again, download the Create

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your culture workbook, or invest in values. Inc, there's some

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very clear directions at the back of values. Inc, too, on how

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to then take that to the next level, so that you truly can

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create a system around keeping your values front and center so

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you don't forget who you are and what you want to stand for in

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this world.

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Well, Dina, thank you so much for your time today, and we

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appreciate you taking the time.

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Dina Dwyer-Owens: Thank you for the opportunity, and I hope that

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the listeners will join this movement. We really can change

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the world one person at a time.

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