In this conversation, I break down one of the most common (and costly) mistakes therapists make in their marketing: speaking from Point Z—the place of transformation—rather than meeting clients where they are at Point A. I walk you through how this disconnect shows up, why it happens (hint: it's not your fault), and how to realign your messaging so it resonates with the clients you actually want to attract.
You’ll walk away with a clear reframe and a practical next step to make sure your marketing is not just accurate, but truly effective.
Here’s what you’ll learn in this episode:
1️⃣ Why your clients aren’t recognizing themselves in your marketing—and how to fix that disconnect
2️⃣ The surprising way clinical accuracy can backfire in your copy
3️⃣ A simple exercise to re-anchor your messaging in what your clients already know and feel
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Marketing Therapy is the podcast where therapists learn how to market their private practices without burnout, self-doubt, or sleazy tactics. Hosted by Anna Walker—marketing coach, strategist, and founder of Walker Strategy Co—each episode brings you clear, grounded advice to help you attract the right-fit, full-fee clients and grow a practice you feel proud of.
Hello, hello.
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:Welcome to Marketing Therapy episode
two where we are exploring one of the
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:disconnects that I see so many therapists
not realize they're creating, and
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:ultimately the clients it costs them.
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:This is a big one.
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:So let's set the stage here.
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:You have a solid niche, you
know who you love working with.
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:You're not trying to be all
things to all people anymore.
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:You've realized I am the right
therapist for the right kind of client.
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:So you've gotten clear,
you've gotten more focused.
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:You've gotten more intentional.
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:Okay, that's where we're at right now.
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:So the big question, why
aren't the inquiries coming in?
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:Or if they are, why do so
many of them still feel off?
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:That is what we're gonna talk about today.
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:Because sometimes it's not
your niche that's the problem.
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:It's the disconnect between
where your clients are and
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:where you are marketing from.
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:In this episode, we're gonna dive
into this really common mistake
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:that I see even seasoned, thoughtful
strategic therapists make in their
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:marketing and what to do instead.
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:We're gonna talk about the journey
your client goes on, what this
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:disconnect actually looks like.
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:I'm gonna give you some examples
why this happens and why it's not
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:your fault, what your clients are
really actually listening for, and of
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:course how to actually change this.
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:Okay?
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:I'm gonna give you a few simple
changes to make your niche and your
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:marketing actually land with those
clients you love to work with.
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:Alright, let's get into it.
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:So here's what I want you
to remember as we dive in.
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:Every single client goes on a journey
when they work with you, okay?
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:They start at point A.
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:Imagine a big, long spectrum, okay?
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:On one end is point A.
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:This is the moment that they
realize something's wrong,
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:I've got to do something.
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:It might be that they're feeling
overwhelmed, they're stuck in a pattern
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:that they can't quite put words to.
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:They're disconnected from their partner.
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:They had a big blow up.
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:They're maybe just exhausted by their
own brain and living in their body.
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:That is the moment they reach out.
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:That is where they begin point A,
and then over time, imagine that
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:that client moving along that journey
through the work you do together,
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:they start making sense of things.
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:Right.
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:Isn't this one of the coolest
parts of working with your clients?
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:They start to gain insight.
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:They start to connect the dots.
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:They have those light bulb
moments and breakthroughs.
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:They build skills, they heal, they
grow, they change, and eventually
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:they'll likely move on from therapy,
whether that's six months from now or
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:years and years from now with a brand
new level of clarity that is point Z.
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:Okay, so your client came in at point
A and then they traveled along that
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:journey with your help to point Z.
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:But here's the problem.
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:I see so often therapists are writing
their websites, their directory
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:profiles, their social media
captions, whatever they're doing
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:to market themselves from point Z.
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:They're leading with the ultimate
transformation with the diagnosis.
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:They're leading with the big insight.
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:They know their clients are going to reach
eventually, and this is a good thing.
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:It's good to talk about that.
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:But when a potential client is
still sitting at point A, they
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:don't recognize themselves in that
yet, they're not ready for it.
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:And when someone doesn't
feel seen, we know this.
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:They bounce, they click out
and they look elsewhere.
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:So let's look at how this actually
shows up in your marketing.
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:Because if you're anything like the
thousands of therapists that I've
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:worked with, it's not necessarily
an issue of you being vague.
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:You know who you work with,
you know the work you do well,
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:and you're not writing fluff.
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:You're actually doing the opposite.
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:You're trying to be very, very accurate.
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:You're naming the real clinical
dynamic that's at play here.
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:You're talking about the
root cause of the issue.
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:And ultimately this is because you're
sharing the work that you know makes
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:the difference and that my friend
is actually exactly the problem.
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:Because in doing so, you are
likely describing the work through
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:a point Z lens when your client
is still sitting at point A.
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:So here's some common examples, and
these are real life ones from students.
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:I have supported my favorite and I
think one of the most universal ones.
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:Right now is this idea
of relational trauma.
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:So if you're someone who enjoys relational
trauma, complex trauma, C-P-T-S-D, chances
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:are your clients don't know that term yet.
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:They might even be averse
to the term trauma.
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:All they're wondering about is why they
keep ending up in unhealthy relationships
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:or why they feel anxious and unseen in
every close connection in their life.
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:Why they continue to bend
over backwards and overextend
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:themselves struggling to say no.
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:They don't know that it's relational
trauma, or maybe I've seen this.
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:You help people with OCD, but your
potential clients, they don't know
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:that the intrusive thoughts or the
repetitive behaviors are OCD, yet they
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:don't think it's quote unquote that bad.
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:All they know is they feel stuck
and obsessive and overwhelmed
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:living in their own head.
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:Here's another one.
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:Maybe you work with adult children
of emotionally immature parents.
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:Maybe that is really, really
where you find that you shine.
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:But your clients, they don't know
that about their parents yet.
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:They just know they feel
guilt and confusion.
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:Or a sense that they're too
much when they set boundaries.
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:I recently dove into a project with
a client who offers couples therapy,
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:and she was marketing to things like
attachment ruptures or value mismatches.
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:Her couples aren't Googling that.
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:They're saying things like, I don't
feel close to my partner anymore, or
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:He hurt me, and I don't know if we can
get over it or we can't stop fighting.
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:Can you see what's happening here?
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:So when these clients land on your website
or your site today profile, or your
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:social media, whatever it is, and they
see this kind of elevated language or the
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:deep clinical insight that you're trying
to portray, they're not rejecting you.
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:They just don't realize
that you're talking to them.
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:They don't see themselves in it.
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:And so what do they do?
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:They move on.
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:Now let's look at why this happens.
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:Why do so many smart, insightful,
thoughtful clinicians default
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:to point Z in their marketing?
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:You wanna know why?
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:It's because you're really, really good
at what you do, because your brain is
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:trained to spot patterns, to identify
the root cause to get under the surface.
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:You meet with someone once and
you probably already have a pretty
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:clear idea of what's going on and
that clarity, it's a strength.
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:No doubt it's a strength in the
room, but in your marketing, it can
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:actually become a blind spot because
when you know what's really going
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:on, it's hard not to jump ahead.
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:You don't mean to talk
over your client's head.
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:But you end up speaking from
your perspective, not theirs.
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:And marketing is about joining
your clients where they are.
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:But some of the resistance I get
when I share this with my students
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:is that that feels uncomfortable.
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:It feels like they're simplifying.
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:You might feel like, I don't wanna sound
vague or I don't wanna sound watered down.
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:Maybe you really, really enjoy deep
work and you don't wanna lose the depth.
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:Of that work by marketing to something
so quote unquote surface level.
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:And you certainly don't wanna feel
like you're dumbing down the quality
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:of your work or the depth of your
work for marketing's sake, right?
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:But here's what I want
you to remember here.
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:Your marketing isn't a treatment plan.
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:You're not having to conceptualize
the entire client relationship here.
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:Your marketing is the first
sentence of the conversation.
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:It's what happens in intake, not what
happens six or 12 months from now.
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:So in order for someone to step into the
work with you, trusting that you're the
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:right fit for them, they have to feel
like you see them right now, not just
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:who they're gonna be three months in.
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:So there is a way to keep your
clinical depth, to keep your nuance,
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:but we have to start with what your
clients already know about themselves.
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:That is how we earn their
trust, and that's how they
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:ultimately take the first step.
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:So let's explore a little bit more
about what clients really need to
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:hear when they land on your website.
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:What are they actually looking for?
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:Because they're not.
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:Evaluating your credentials closely.
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:They may or may not be looking at your
theoretical orientation, but most likely
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:not, and that chances are, it's not the
first thing, and they're also, as much
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:as you might feel this way, not reading
your copy with a red pen in their hand,
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:you know, kind of judging every single
word and circling what doesn't feel right.
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:They're doing something a lot more
raw and a lot more vulnerable.
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:They're asking themselves questions.
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:Does this therapist get
what I'm going through?
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:Do I feel safe here?
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:Do I think this person
can actually help me?
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:That's it.
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:At point A, your client isn't
ready for your modality.
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:They're not trying to learn about trauma
or emotionally immature parents or ERP.
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:They're trying to figure out why they
feel the way they feel, and whether
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:there's someone out there who gets it.
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:That's why your copy and your
marketing, especially early on in
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:their experience with you, has to
reflect your client's lived experience.
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:Not just anxiety, but the particular
flavor of anxiety they're sitting with.
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:You likely know that clients
with relational trauma
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:present a very particular way.
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:That's the type of flavor I'm
talking about, not just trauma.
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:But the patterns that they're seeing
show up in their relationships
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:are in their inner voice.
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:Not just relationship stressors, but the
quiet fear that maybe they're the problem.
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:The deep in their bones, exhaustion
from trying and seemingly failing
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:to connect to their partner.
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:Those are the types of things they're
looking for because when someone reads
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:something and they think, wait, that's me.
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:You've already done 80%
of the heavy lifting.
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:That is the moment they stop scrolling.
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:That's the moment they look for.
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:They schedule free consultation
button on your website and click it.
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:That's when that connection begins.
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:It's about helping them stop
and pause and see themselves
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:in what you've displayed there.
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:Now, if you're realizing as we
go through this conversation that
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:you've been marketing too far ahead,
I want you to know this doesn't
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:mean we have to burn it all down.
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:It doesn't mean you have to
scrap your niche or start over.
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:It's not that you're actually doing
anything wrong, it just means we
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:need to shift the entry point.
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:To your marketing.
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:So here's the very first
thing I want you to do.
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:This is the exercise.
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:I want you to leave this
episode and complete.
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:I want you to revisit your intake forms.
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:I want you to go back to the
clients you have loved working with.
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:You know which ones I'm talking about?
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:The ones that if you could clone, you
would the ones who made incredible
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:progress, open up their intakes, pull
up that paperwork, and then read what
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:they wrote on that very first form.
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:What were they struggling with then?
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:How did they describe it?
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:Then what language did they use?
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:Then.
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:That is your point A.
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:That is where your
marketing should be focused.
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:That is where it starts
because you already know what
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:point Z looks like, right?
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:You live there, hopefully, but
your clients are still trying to
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:figure out what's even going on.
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:So whenever you sit down to market your
practice to write your website, whatever
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:it is that you're doing, start there.
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:Talk about what it feels like before
they understand the pattern, before
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:they've realized their parents weren't
what they perhaps always imagined before
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:they know what kind of therapy they need.
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:Let them see themselves in the
very first sentence, because once
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:they're in, and once you start to
cultivate that connection, then you
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:can lead them into the deeper work.
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:Right.
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:Then you can cast a vision
for what's possible.
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:Then you can introduce the real root
of what's going on because point
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:Z, like I said, it still matters.
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:Your clients still need to see
the potential transformation
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:they can experience as a
result of working with you.
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:They need to know that
there's a way forward.
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:So it's not that we're only marketing
and talking about today's problems.
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:We want to cast vision about what's
gonna happen further down the line.
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:But here's the key.
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:You cannot market to problems your
clients don't know they have, or
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:outcomes they don't know they want yet.
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:Let me say that again.
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:You cannot market to problems your
clients don't know they have, or
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:outcomes they don't know they want yet.
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:So you still need to speak to
transformation, but you have to
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:first start with recognition.
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:With what your clients
would see themselves in.
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:So if you're listening to this and
your niche feels right, you know
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:the work you love to do, but the
inquiries still aren't, then this
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:disconnect might be that missing piece.
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:And it doesn't mean changing
the kind of work you do.
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:Not at all.
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:It doesn't mean watering anything down,
but it does mean that you need to meet
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:your clients where they are, because
before your clients can trust you with the
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:breakthrough, they need to trust that you
see them in their right now, in the moment
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:they find themselves in today, as they
decide if you're the therapist for them.
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:This shift from point Z to point
A is hands down one of the most
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:powerful mindset and strategy tweaks
that you can make in your marketing.
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:It is legitimately the difference
between this therapist seems
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:qualified and this therapist gets me.
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:And in this market, you
want to be the latter.
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:If you're interested in exploring
this even more deeply, that's
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:exactly what we do in my magnetic
niche method mini course.
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:But whether or not you dive in there, and
I'll include the, the link in the show
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:notes, I hope today gave you something
very, very concrete to work with.
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:Like I said, leave this episode
and revisit those intake forms.
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:Look at your client's point a.
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:And know that you can still do the deep
and powerful work that you love, but
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:your marketing has to start with what
your client knows, not what you know,
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:because that's how you're gonna build
trust, and that's how you're gonna start
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:bringing in those RightFit clients so
you can lead more and more folks to
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:the incredible outcomes at point Z.
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:Thanks for tuning in today.
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:I'll see you in the next episode.