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Lord of the Pings. Are Notifications Ruining Your Life?
Episode 22126th September 2022 • MSP [] MATTSPLAINED [] MSPx • KULTURPOP
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Are work notifications ruining your life? Do you spend more time reacting to pings than doing your actual work? Are productivity tools ruining your productivity? Don’t worry. You’re not alone.

Hosted by Matt Armitage & Richard Bradbury

Produced by Richard Bradbury for BFM89.9

Episode Sources: 

https://robm.me.uk/2022/08/efficiency-movement/

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/25/ping-phone-notifications-off-whatsapp-instagram

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/sep/06/doomscrolling-linked-to-poor-physical-and-mental-health-study-finds

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/06/success/return-to-office-hybrid-mandates/index.html

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Richard Bradbury: Are work notifications ruining your life? Do you spend more time reacting to pings than doing your actual work? Are productivity tools ruining your productivity? You’re not alone.

Richard Bradbury: Are the pings ruining your life?

Matt Armitage:

• No. I know the pitch for today is ‘you’re not alone’.

• But I’m not one of that group. I keep my stuff pretty well boxed.

• But I’m a consultant, essentially working with clients rather than a team.

• So the dynamics I experience are different.

• And this is an issue that seems to affect a large number of workers who live in fear of worktime chirps and beeps.

• Work is something we talked a lot about at the start of the pandemic.

• About the shift to remote work and the explosion of tools that could help to facilitate that shift.

• But we haven’t really followed up on those trends too much.

Richard Bradbury: Nothing about the new Apple releases?

Matt Armitage:

• The most interesting thing about the Apple product launches is how muted the media responses have been.

• Even at some of the big tech sites it doesn’t seem to have made top billing.

• Which tells you quite a lot about how the world has moved on.

• In fact, the most interesting thing about the launch wasn’t the products themselves but Apple’s commitment to replace passwords with biometrics and encryption keys.

• Which we will come back to as a story.

• But today isn’t about Apple.

• I thought this week and next week we could do a bit of a two-parter.

• This week to look at how well we’ve integrated and coped with some of those new technologies.

• And then next week to look at some of the emerging trends that are defining how we look at work.

• Let’s start with noise.

• We did a show a few weeks back about the benefits of silence and the increasingly noisy world we find ourselves in.

• And how our digital devices are designed to cut through all that background radiation to grab our attention.

• And we talked about noise levels and how it isn’t always the loudest sounds that are the most annoying and intrusive.

Richard Bradbury: Like the sound of a baby crying?

Matt Armitage:

• Yes. For some people that noise means ‘I need to help’, whereas for other people that noise means, I’m leaving and I may not be back.

• And that’s because there’s that evolutionary aspect to a baby’s cry that triggers the fight or flight reflex.

Richard Bradbury: And you’re all flight?

Matt Armitage:

• 100%. That noise signals one thing to me: somebody else’s problem.

• But there is one noise that irritates me even more:

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Matt Armitage:

• Of course, that’s the noise my computer makes.

• Yours may have something that’s the same but different.

Richard Bradbury: Don’t you mute your phone and computer?

Matt Armitage:

• We kinda had this chat a couple of weeks back.

• Yes. My phone is completely muted all of the time.

• Which is doable for me because I wear a smartwatch and I’ve set specific notifications and contacts to vibrate.

• But I cannot get my desktop to stop pinging.

• I’ve put it on various mute or silent modes.

• Manually switched notifications off both in notification centre and the app settings themselves.

• But for some reason, some of them still ping.

• Usually when I’m recording these shows, but as my sound is diverted to headphones, it’s me they disrupt rather than you.

• But not everyone does silence their notifications.

• My wife often doesn’t and she’s a lot more popular than I am.

• So if she leaves her phone or computer in the room, it plagues me with endless pinging, dinging and singing.

• In any case, our phones know that we’re trying to ignore them.

• So they develop ever more clever methods to let us know that there’s a new post, a new like, a new email.

• By flashing different colours and combinations of lights at us.

• By lighting up the bedroom in the middle of the night.

• And by telling us when an insomniac colleague has had a 4am brain start.

Richard Bradbury: Where does this fit in with the whole pandemic productivity thing?

Matt Armitage:

• For starters, we’re using a lot more collaborative tools.

• For example, when I was prepping this show.

• I was looking at a beta release for a piece of software we both use from time to time.

• Descript – which has now become a full-fledged video as well as audio editor.

• And one of its latest features is collaborative video editing.

• Now, one part of me can see how this might be useful.

• Tweaking scripts and captions, adding to B-Roll. And not having to wait until the previous person has finished before you can get started.

• I see that.

• But the idea of half a dozen people piling on and tweaking a video at the same time kind of makes my brain freeze.

• Because the thing that you’re trying to edit will be morphed by someone else as you’re doing it.

• That requires a lot of human-level organisation and agreement to prevent that task from becoming overwhelmingly convoluted.

• And I think that’s where the reality of what we can cope with lags behind the abilities of the software.

Richard Bradbury: We started with the premise of looking back at trends that began during the lockdowns. Are we seeing similar levels of over-saturation with more mainstream digital office products?

Matt Armitage:

• This is where it would be really interesting to hear from our listeners and for them to tell us their experiences with the current generation of productivity tools.

• Pop us a message from one of your socials and let us know how you’re getting on with all this stuff.

• One of the reasons for doing this was a friend messaging me a relative’s experience with their company and using the messaging and comms tool Slack.

• I’m not naming names in this instance because I don’t want anyone getting into trouble with their bosses.

• All team communication happens over the platform.

• Essentially no email. So documents, communications, team huddles.

• All taking place on the platform.

• And the result is that this person spends their day managing Slack rather than working.

Richard Bradbury: In this instance, isn’t Slack the work?

Matt Armitage:

• I think that’s where we get into the confusing territory.

• Gamification is a huge buzzword in everything from education to work to erm, gaming.

• But we get into complicated territory when we start looking at gamification for work.

Richard Bradbury: We’re back to the pings?

Matt Armitage:

• In a sense. A lot of people gain huge satisfaction from ticking off tasks.

• Especially if you’re rewarded with a ping or a screen flash.

• A lot of productivity apps have these pop-ups that tell you how awesome you are when you hit milestones.

• Or give you some opaque positivity quote.

• So the apps are designed to give you those little dopamine rushes as a reward for getting things done.

• Which brings us back to that earlier question: isn’t slack the work?

• Well, no. And I’m not singling Slack out here by the way – this is the same with most productivity tools built into office suites.

• The work is still the work. The actual job or task that needs completing.

• Slack or Google Docs or whatever is simply the delivery mechanism for that work.

Richard Bradbury: Unlike more traditional methods like email?

Matt Armitage:

• Even traditional email – isn’t strange to talk about email as traditional?

• Email has become a lot more like instant messaging.

• There are lots of apps like Spike that skin it more like a slack or Whatsapp style tool.

• Anyway, productivity tools tend to highlight how collaborative they are.

• But the gamification element can push them into being more performative than collaborative.

• So you get into this cycle of proving that you’re working by commenting on every single thing.

• We did a show a few years ago about an automated telephone assistant. I think it was by google.

• It could make calls, reply emails, all on your behalf. But posing as a person rather than a machine.

• We talked about these hypothetical scenarios where two sets of assistant machines could end up talking to each other in these infinite loops.

• With neither realising that the other is a machine.

• And we seem to be doing something similar with productivity tools.

• Because of these gamification aspects, every comment becomes its own task.

• Something you have to look at, consider and comment on.

• Without some control or direction, the communication tools supposed to shortcut processes and increase efficiency.

• Can start to exponentially increase the workload itself.

• And, of course make it harder to retrieve the information that is important.

Richard Bradbury: How much of this is the tools themselves and how much is it about the way companies operate?

Matt Armitage:

• So, ok. This isn’t a ‘technology is neutral’ argument.

• Companies arrive at communications solutions for all sorts of reasons.

• Feature sets. Simplicity. Flexibility. Cost.

• One of the reasons that the corporate world is such a hodge podge of incompatible systems is simply because companies have incompatible aims and structures.

• The set of features Slack has, may not suit one company as well as Monday or ClickUp might do.

• And for all that we like to say that there is no I in team.

• Teams are groups of individuals with different needs and approaches.

• When a company chooses their supposedly optimal digital toolset, it will only be optimal for some of their workers.

• Hopefully, that will be a majority. Occasionally it isn’t.

• History is littered with companies trying out productivity tools and methods that either don’t improve the situation or make it actively worse.

• So you have all these new tools, new working methodologies and they won’t work for everyone.

• They can’t work for everyone.

Richard Bradbury: That still doesn’t get us to the point where the tool becomes the work…

Matt Armitage:

• This is something that I face with the clients I consult with.

• Now, typically, I work with small to medium organisations.

• Often with companies at the start up stage.

• And that task is slightly easier in a sense because you’re building a methodology for working and sharing information from the ground up.

• Rather than imposing something new on a company already working at scale.

• So you can tweak and fine tune and figure out the best way for all the relevant parties.

• Heresy here – sometimes that might even mean putting different teams on different tools.

• Most of the time, productivity tools are flexible enough that you don’t need to do that.

• But there may be certain use case scenarios.

• And the second heresy – some teams may not need to use the tools at all.

• Email, file sharing and some collab office software may be all they need to function.

• And that brings us back to why that software is there. Which we’ll talk about more after the break.

• The perhaps flawed culture of efficiency that underpins.

Richard Bradbury: When we come back. More from the Lord of the Pings.

BREAK

Richard Bradbury: Are notifications ruining your life? That’s the question we’re asking on Mattsplained today. Where are we pinging off to now?

Matt Armitage:

• I quite like the idea of being the Lord of the Pings.

• I could be a modern-day Sauron. An evil with presence but no solid form.

• A Tolkienesque character for the digital era.

• I’ll see if Amazon studios wants to do a big-budget epic series about me.

• I’ll take Daniel Craig as me. Or Jimmy Carr. Depending on the way the director takes it.

• Daniel Radcliffe can play you.

Richard Bradbury: Is this your strange way of pivoting the conversation towards efficiency?

Matt Armitage:

• In that I’m wasting time and making no sense?

• Nope. That’s just me. But we will get onto efficiency in the broader sense shortly.

• Going back to those productivity tools that are ruining people’s lives with incessant notifications.

• We were talking about the role of the company in defining those tools and their performative aspect.

• So we have to look at the reasons those tools are used in the first place.

• Efficiency and organisation is one reason.

• But another reason that may be as important, and sometimes even more important, is tracking.

• The tools are a way of quantifying how much work someone is doing.

• The administrator dashboards of a lot of those apps have all sorts of employee performance metrics baked in.

• You can see who is more likely to complete tasks on time.

• How much they are commenting or contributing to team discussions.

• How many likes their comments or posts get from other teammates.

• That can be even more important for teams that are working or distributed remotely.

• RFID tags are no longer telling HR or bosses how much time you spend in the bathrooms to pantry areas.

• So these tools become even more important to see not just that work is being done, but how you do the work.

Richard Bradbury: Is that a fair use of the tools?

Matt Armitage:

• It depends what you mean by fair.

• I’d prefer that kind of surveillance to key loggers and web-cam software.

• Surveillance in the workplace isn’t anything new.

• That’s why our line bosses are supervisors. They supervise. Which means to observe and direct.

• We sometimes focus too much on their directing role and sort of forget that they are also there to observe us.

• You can especially lose sight of that in companies that have relatively flat hierarchies.

• There are plenty of anecdotal accounts of junior staff members assigning tasks or subtasks in these apps to their bosses.

• Because the flat hierarchy has confused them into thinking that everyone is truly on the same level.

• But if that person is signing off your performance review, then the field isn’t level.

• And the same mistake can be made with commenting. Sometimes a request might be politely phrased but require no comment.

• Only action.

• Which brings us back around to the how and why of implementing these tools.

Richard Bradbury: Is this the more pandemic-related aspect?

Matt Armitage:

• Partly. Some companies have been using Slack and similar tools since they were rolled out.

• Those companies may have an edge in how they employ that software.

• And I say that not from a technical standpoint but a behavioural one.

• Very often, when these tools are rolled out, the focus is on explaining how they work from a technical and functional standpoint.

• Click box A etc etc.

• People aren’t necessarily trained for the behavioural best practice of the software.

• So what do I mean by that?

• Well, look at email. At the beginning of email’s corporate genesis we were swamped with the stuff.

• Employees complained about the weight of email in the same way they now complain about the tools replacing it.

• Over time, companies tamed those distortion effects. They built behavioural policies for email.

• Codes of conduct on how to talk to colleagues. How succinctly to reply to email.

• Whether or not you were expected to respond out of office hours.

• By and large those policies still hold for tools like Slack or Clickup.

Richard Bradbury: And this brings us back to the performative aspects of the software?

Matt Armitage:

• Yes, it’s the electronic equivalent of making yourself look busy.

• And as we said, there’s that exponential amplification factor from the comments-based nature of some of the tools.

• So it’s very important for companies to come up with policies and training documents that address the behavioural aspects of these tools.

• Especially if bosses don’t care about those performative aspects – then you’re essentially playing to no one and for no reason.

• In fact, your conduct is an impediment to the performance of the team.

• For companies that have only started using this kind of software in the last couple of years,

• Survival may have been uppermost in their minds, rather than looking at normalising the use of those tools and integrating them into prevailing company structures.

• And I can understand that they still may not feel that they have the breathing space to do that.

• We’re in a cost of living crisis, and as much as we act as though the pandemic is over,

• It isn’t. Supply chains are still disrupted and distorted. Covid is still a major cause of staff absenteeism.

• And many companies are having problems with recruitment.

Richard Bradbury: Is there any link between efficiency and productivity tools and the issues surrounding recruitment?

Matt Armitage:

• I think you’d be hard pushed to find a direct, causal link.

• What we do know is that employees are pushing back against employers more.

• Whether in terms of salary or working conditions.

• There have been various reports this week about the attempt of corporations to bring staff back into offices.

• Again, you get splits along various lines.

• Some jobs lend themselves to remote or teleworking more than others.

• You can’t telework an Amazon warehouse job, for example.

• Although there has been an increase in the number of remote forklift operators over the past couple of years.

• Piloting the machines like drone pilots or esports stars.

• And even within the occupations where it is possible, some people prefer to be in the office and others don’t.

• What is clearer is that there is something of a generational corporate shift.

• Tech companies – not uniformly – seem to be more open to permanent hybrid working arrangements.

• I think I saw a CNN report where reviews site Yelp reported that only 1% of their workers wanted to be in office all the time.

• For other companies it’s simply a financial decision: they’re locked into property leases and are paying for huge, currently empty premises.

• So why bear the costs of office space and remote work?

• It’s clear we’re in this transformative space in relation to working cultures.

• And the problems that my friend is having with tools like Slack are part of that transformation.

• We’re mid-journey if you like. It’s a bit like moving house. Packing and unpacking and being in a horrible mess until it’s finished.

Richard Bradbury: That’s cheery. And inefficient.

Matt Armitage:

• As usual, I talked about this being a show of two halves.

• When in reality it turns out to be a game of seven eighths and the bit left over.

• But yes, in whatever time we have left I wanted to talk more specifically about efficiency.

• Or rather the lack of availability of efficiency.

• There’s a great post on the Roblog substack called The efficiency movement, written by the strategist Rob Miller who works for a company called Big Fish.

• And he talks about our obsession with efficiency and how much is too much.

• That’s a very interesting point: how much efficiency is enough?

Richard Bradbury: Is there an answer?

Matt Armitage:

• I don’t know if it’s an answer as much as a set of observations, or rather our obsession with efficiency.

• The analogy I make is with lithium ion batteries.

• We’ve made enormous gains with those power cells, sufficient that we can build electric cars with a range of hundreds of km.

• But we’ve made most of the gains with that technology that we can.

• Any gains we now make are incremental.

• And the same may be true with efficiency. It’s that same obsession that built the supply chains and just-in-time manufacturing…

• That turned out to be so fragile during Covid.

• Turns out holding inventory can have an upside when container ships can’t dock in your ports.

• Efficiency came at the price of resilience.

Richard Bradbury: You made the analogy with lithium-ion batteries. If we find a new technology for producing electric cells, does that analogy still stand up?

Matt Armitage:

• Yes. Because we’re also looking at technologies to replace human workers.

• Namely, AI.

• Automation and innovation in automation were also hallmarks of the pandemic.

• Robot kitchens in China, for example.

• For the most part, we are still in the assistive phase of AI.

• Similar to the production lines that needed human workers to feed the machines before the robots took over.

• That’s where we are with AI. We make a good team.

• When or if those machine learning tools are sufficiently capable of taking over autonomously remains to be seen.

• I’m not sure we’ve ended up in the right place today, with any sense of resolution.

• But this is where we are.

• So, turn off the pings if they annoy you. Try to filter what you see on Slack or whatever tools you use for work.

• And remember that not every comment or suggestion is helpful. Especially mine.

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