Ali and Sam are back with new podcast, looking at unions and how they have evolved.

We're joined by Eve Livingston, freelance journalist and author of Make Bosses Pay: Why We Need Unions.

We chatted about what sort of misinformation is promoted about unions, what place traditional unions have in the modern workforce, and whether RMT boss Mick Lynch has changed the public perception of industrial action.

In sad news, it is Sam's final podcast for The FFS Show, and he bowed out by subjecting Ali to a highly unfair/rigorous and forensic quiz.

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