7:05 Shut Up Dr. Phil

Diana:

Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast. I'm Diana.

Liz:

And I'm Liz.

So this episode was shut up. Dr. Phil. I said, it was clearly a reference that you are not Dr. Phil. You're not actually a doctor. Please shut the up. So this was

Diana:

Ahhhh

Liz:

,: 2011

Diana:

Mm-hmm.

Liz:

And it was written by the writing team, Brad Buckner and Eugenie Ross-Lemming, who we've not seen since season 1, episode

Diana:

Bye.

Liz:

13, route 666. And I just think Eugenie Ross-Lemming is just ing an adorable woman. And I just... I love her writing. So, and you know, when I was like shoving all of our content into AI last week, trying to get it to like write us like copy and like it never write, like they never understand what we're about. Like apparently they just thought that all we wanted to talk about was this episode. That was all the copies. Like they're just like, they're very excited about next week.

Diana:

hilarious.

Liz:

That's

Diana:

Well,

Liz:

hilarious.

Diana:

you got me excited about it and I knew why very early on. So

Liz:

but you didn't know beforehand. So, okay. Okay,

Diana:

I did

Liz:

good,

Diana:

not

Liz:

I'm

Diana:

know beforehand. I didn't cheat.

Liz:

so proud.

Diana:

So our recap is about eludes to witches, of course our Leviathans, and then Dean's ongoing guilt. And we will see that these are ongoing themes of this episode. So that was a very telling recap this week.

Liz:

And to sum it up, here is his witches'

Diana:

Which

Liz:

guilt.

Diana:

is Leviathan. There we go. So we've got we start off in a salon and we got some good like salon music bumping, like good background, but a good beat, like where it's trying to be not elevator. Sounds like mall music, you know, and this woman is super cocky getting her roots done. Talk about how she's a realtor.

Liz:

She's

Diana:

She's

Liz:

getting

Diana:

getting

Liz:

blonded.

Diana:

blonded, getting blonded. And they're trying to help this woman sell her ex-husband's house. and she gets put under the blow dryer and they take her phone away and give her a magazine?

Liz:

What?

Diana:

Excuse me, sir.

Liz:

Yeah, I don't understand that. Like, but because I would have chased him down and be like, no, unless

Diana:

Give

Liz:

they're

Diana:

me

Liz:

trying

Diana:

my phone

Liz:

to be

Diana:

back.

Liz:

like, get, you know, you need

Diana:

Disconnect

Liz:

to you need to zone out disconnect

Diana:

and unplug.

Liz:

unplug. But I will say that my when my grandmother had one of these at her house, and I always thought it was cool.

Diana:

Yeah,

Liz:

But

Diana:

the hairdryer's rad. Like the one

Liz:

but

Diana:

that like pulls down like

Liz:

yeah,

Diana:

over your head.

Liz:

I always just thought that

Diana:

But

Liz:

was

Diana:

it

Liz:

like,

Diana:

has some

Liz:

so

Diana:

crazy

Liz:

neat. Yeah.

Diana:

flip down visor and that made me uncomfortable.

Liz:

The whole thing makes me uncomfortable and I would never sit on it because I'm sweating here in front of this stupid light and like just in those things. I'm just like gushing. But my new hairstylist, I think I've adopted her as my new one. I don't know. She listens to like, you know, uh, rams and shit while I'm in there. So yeah, good for

Diana:

Nice.

Liz:

her. But she's got, instead of like a pull down hood, she's got like an infrared light that like goes around. And

Diana:

Hmm.

Liz:

so like, you don't like, you're still baking your head, but like less this.

Diana:

Yeah. No, mine has it too. It's like the thing where it just sits behind you and it can kind of moves. And it's just like big disks

Liz:

Yeah,

Diana:

of like

Liz:

it's like

Diana:

infrared-y

Liz:

a robot

Diana:

things.

Liz:

is back there going, they should put googly

Diana:

Slowly

Liz:

eyes

Diana:

warming

Liz:

on

Diana:

your

Liz:

it.

Diana:

head.

Liz:

Like, so it's like, you know, I would do that. There's like,

Diana:

Well,

Liz:

you just put googly eyes on everything.

Diana:

yes, we should. But this hairdryer has a malfunction and it's terrifying because she can't lift it off her head. It is cooking her head and she can't slip out of the seat. Something's holding her in the seat. And nobody notices because this room is separate and has doors that close off to it. But it's got the same music volume. It's a very weird layout for a salon. Either way, by the time a salon dude And then I think I'm going to go back to the hair dryer. And I think I'm going to go back to the hair dryer. And then I think I'm going to go back to the hair dryer.

Liz:

Yeah, it's super gross and I love it. I love Chris's scream. I think he does

Diana:

a good one.

Liz:

an excellent scream. Also, I love how long they made this. Like,

Diana:

It's a long

Liz:

this

Diana:

intro.

Liz:

was a long death

Diana:

They

Liz:

scene.

Diana:

dragged it out.

Liz:

And I was just like, because when you sit there, it's like, because there's no dialogue, right? So

Diana:

Oh.

Liz:

I actually had time to sit and just like watch something instead of frantically typing. So it's just like, oh, this is a wonderful death scene. I think it's so well done.

Diana:

So we cut to a nicer motel than we often see our brothers in. And

Liz:

stay in this motel! Yeah,

Diana:

yeah,

Liz:

I would

Diana:

I was

Liz:

sleep

Diana:

like,

Liz:

there.

Diana:

okay, it's like dated, but it looks very nice dated. Does that make sense? I

Liz:

It looks

Diana:

was like,

Liz:

like I

Diana:

oh,

Liz:

wasn't gonna get bed bugs.

Diana:

correct. And Dean's sleeping and having nightmares about Castiel, about Leviathan, about Sam's hallucinations and about killing Amy. So he wakes up and checks his beer bottle, which is empty because

Liz:

Thankfully,

Diana:

that's what you do.

Liz:

that's gross. And I was like, oh, thank God, he's not just drinking old beer, but oh no, I see he just goes straight to whiskey instead.

Diana:

He just, yeah, he's like, it. I'll just drink whiskey at the laptop instead. And he see we see Sam go on jogging. So Sam's getting into fitness now that he's in his new happy place and comes inside and Dean mocks him for jogging, which I mean, it's fair at first, but also like, hey, you know, somebody's doing their thing. Like let

Liz:

He's

Diana:

him do their

Liz:

trying

Diana:

thing.

Liz:

to keep from hallucinating. You should be encouraging him

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

to like adopt this healthy lifestyle.

Diana:

Yeah. And so, but then they go, the ongoing joke through this episode is that Dean calls Sam Lance Armstrong and Sam keeps correcting that that's a cyclist, not, not a runner. And, and Dean

Liz:

America's

Diana:

doesn't get

Liz:

greatest

Diana:

it.

Liz:

hero. So Steve

Diana:

Ah

Liz:

has also though he's been searching for freaky accidents.

Diana:

Freaky accidents, yeah. And find something in prosperity Indiana where two people have had freaky or suspicious deaths. One with the chick getting roasted under the hairdryer and another guy boiled to death in a hot tub. Oh,

Liz:

Carl.

Diana:

poor Carl.

Liz:

So according to, and it was a very long article, so just redo a couple of the sentences that Dean was reading, Carl was unable to get out of the seemingly normally functioning hot tub and was essentially cooked alive inside the hot tub. Investigators having scoured the crime scene could find no mechanical failure or other causes for the bizarre accident. Carl's body indicated severe temperature rises, but there was no mechanical justification for the death. Dun

Diana:

Huh.

Liz:

dun dun. Oh, and then it also says in there, Dunlop was a local architect who designed small to medium sized projects. Of note, his city hall design won the Indiana architecture prize two years ago. He is survived by his sister and brother-in-law with three nephews and a niece. Facts we did not know about Carl. Yeah,

Diana:

We learned a lot about Carl. We didn't really know him before.

Liz:

we didn't we barely knew you.

Diana:

Barely knew you, Carl. So we get a, they're gonna go to research these. And Sam first though wants to ask like, hey, like Dean, what's going on with you? And of course, Dean just doesn't really wanna talk still.

Liz:

No, and sometimes people just don't want to share their emotions, even though like he's clearly hiding something like sometimes so some people just don't want to talk.

Diana:

Yeah, I know, but Dean's probably needs to talk at this point.

Liz:

Probably. It'll probably

Diana:

Anyways,

Liz:

be healthier.

Diana:

so we cut and we see Chet, our good old Leviathan Chet, who likes nacho cheese a lot.

Liz:

I mean,

Diana:

He's

Liz:

who

Diana:

on.

Liz:

doesn't?

Diana:

I mean, I know. I'm saying I can relate to Leviathan Chet.

Liz:

I mean, I am just happy that I've moved back to the home of Rico's Nacho Cheese.

Diana:

Yeah, you have.

Liz:

We should just like go by that factory one day and just like see what they offer.

Diana:

Did they do tours?

Liz:

I don't know. I should find that out.

Diana:

Sampling

Liz:

Oh yeah.

Diana:

tours, yes ma'am.

Liz:

Yeah.

Diana:

So basically he's got a bag of supplies and they kind of show us a little peek in his trunk. He's got a day and a half away from the Winchesters. He's got his snack, AKA dead dude in the trunk. But more importantly, we got Sam and Deid arriving in prosperity Indiana. And they decided to go talk to Wendy, the girl who died in the salon's older sister. First, Sam talks to her and she's like, look, you know, she didn't have any enemies. Everybody loved her. She was like, volunteer. Blah, blah, blah. And.

Liz:

She just lit up, you know, if this was Dateline, she just lit up

Diana:

They're

Liz:

a broom.

Diana:

up a room. Exactly.

Liz:

That was her Dateline episode. And then she just says though, that she doesn't think that the architect to guide you or sister agent Sambora.

Diana:

Agent Sambora. All right. So we get a Richie Sambora reference from Bon Jovi. That's our agent today. And, uh, but she's pretty surprised that anybody's investigating this as anything other than an accident. So we move on and while

Liz:

But

Diana:

Dean,

Liz:

I mean, I would be like, okay, so

Diana:

yeah,

Liz:

like,

Diana:

it'd be a real

Liz:

I would

Diana:

weird

Liz:

be,

Diana:

murder.

Liz:

I would be suing a mother er, right? Cause I wouldn't think it was like an act. I would think it was an accident,

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

but I would be like that, whoever made that shit is like paying me a lot.

Diana:

Yeah, yeah, for sure. I would have the Diana Hairdryer Company.

Liz:

Yes.

Diana:

That's what happens there. So Dean's at the salon talking to our hairdresser, Chris. I don't know if that's the proper word. Is that the word?

Liz:

Sure,

Diana:

Hairdresser,

Liz:

stylist.

Diana:

stylist,

Liz:

We don't

Diana:

there

Liz:

know

Diana:

you

Liz:

what he does. I mean, he was a colorist,

Diana:

go.

Liz:

obviously.

Diana:

I don't know what his

Liz:

I

Diana:

license is.

Liz:

don't know what his function at the salon is. I know he was blonding,

Diana:

Yeah,

Liz:

so he's at least a colorist. But

Diana:

there we

Liz:

I mean,

Diana:

go.

Liz:

he could also cut hair. We

Diana:

Who

Liz:

just

Diana:

knows?

Liz:

don't know about Chris.

Diana:

We didn't get we didn't get that level of character development from Chris. So he's basically like, yeah, totally impossible for this dryer to do it. It would have like shorted and shut itself off. So who knows? But Dean manages to find a old coin on the floor.

Liz:

sus. It's always

Diana:

Super

Liz:

suspicious.

Diana:

sus. So Dean tells Sam about the coin. And while he's doing that, we notice a bench advertising Wendy's real estate company with pots of dead flowers around it, which is kind of sad. And they agree that the coin could be a hex while Dean goes to get more liquor.

Liz:

Yeah, I was like, Sam wants a ride, Dean wants more booze. So they're going to the no, they don't go to but

Diana:

We go to a construction

Liz:

what?

Diana:

site.

Liz:

OK, so Diana is very excited about this seat and there is a reason. So we go to a construction site and then in this construction site, there is like a new truck and then there's another truck.

Diana:

There's an older truck. It's approximately a we believe like around a 94 to 96 Ford Flare side single cab short bed And I'm now in love with it and now we're on the mission to find one because I want that truck now so this is gonna be the most expensive episode we've ever done probably but Moving aside from that the truck leaves And this man is still there and he decides to go pop into the porta potty, which hilariously the name, you know, the port of my, you don't have a brand on him.

Liz:

Yep.

Diana:

This one, this one is BM.

Liz:

Sure is. Sure is.

Diana:

Oh, all right. Yeah. And while he's in the porta potty, just trying to pee a nut, not B.M. He's trying to pee the unplugged nail gun.

Liz:

See, why don't you just pee outside? Like, I don't get this. Like, there's nobody else on that construction site.

Diana:

You

Liz:

I

Diana:

never

Liz:

would

Diana:

know.

Liz:

not have... I wouldn't have gone in there. If I was a dude, like, I never would have gone in Porta Potty. Like, that's like the... Isn't that your benefit? Like...

Diana:

I guess.

Liz:

Because

Diana:

But we

Liz:

I

Diana:

hear.

Liz:

put in there, you wouldn't have pooped because my house would have gone in there. But okay,

Diana:

He was turned

Liz:

whatever.

Diana:

around. He was facing forward. That's why I assumed he was peeing. But who knows? So the unplugged nail gun and I don't know. I mean, they were not. That was an element of the story they were not explicit about

Liz:

I'm

Diana:

was

Liz:

sorry.

Diana:

his bodily functions in the scene. The unplugged

Liz:

Oh god,

Diana:

nail

Liz:

I'm 12,

Diana:

gun.

Liz:

man. Just 12 years old, all right.

Diana:

The unplugged nail gun starts pressurizing in the back of his truck, and then it. pulls itself out on its own volition and is hovering towards the port of body.

Liz:

And imagine if it had googly eyes.

Diana:

It would have been so amazing if it had googly eyes.

Liz:

It just feels like a little Muppet as it was, it was still kinda cute.

Diana:

It was

Liz:

I'm so scared!

Diana:

funny. I,

Liz:

I

Diana:

yeah.

Liz:

thought it was an adorable little nail gun just being like...

Diana:

Like, who's

Liz:

I'm

Diana:

a

Liz:

a

Diana:

cute

Liz:

cute

Diana:

little

Liz:

little...

Diana:

nail gun? Who's a cute little nail gun? And he knocks, he knocks on the door, so he opens the door and annoyed, and it just starts shooting at him, which is insane, pinning him to the back of the, which I'm also like, these must be really long nails. That's another complaint slash question mark item.

Liz:

Hehehe

Diana:

And then it shoots him up until he like, he's pinned to the back wall. And then it shoots his top pauses from it and it shoots both of his eyeballs. I mean, yeah, that was a that was a vomit noise in case you couldn't

Liz:

See,

Diana:

tell.

Liz:

but if they'd put googly eyes on them instead of nails, it would have been hilarious. But also, hey, at least a port of potty didn't turn open.

Diana:

Oh yeah, that's always a bonus. Could

Liz:

It could have been worse.

Diana:

have been worse. Yeah. So now, now our construction site is a crime scene. Ta-da. It's like magic. That's what happens. And we find out that this was the owner of Dewey Stevens construction and they are one of the biggest local developers. And once again, a pillar of the community.

Liz:

Well, what's funny is I had to hear the transcript because Wim the Sheriff was talking about him.

Diana:

Oh my gosh. Yeah.

Liz:

He lists all these things and I thought he called him a fruitarian. And I was like, that's a bizarre theme for construction owner to be.

Diana:

Right

Liz:

I was like, that's Lazy Krishna? And then it was Rho-Tarian. I'm like, oh, Rho-Tarian. It's like, I've been

Diana:

Yeah,

Liz:

having

Diana:

procterion.

Liz:

this

Diana:

Like, yeah.

Liz:

thing with my Irish dude about... whether or not you say like you were taking a piss at somebody or taking the piss at somebody and apparently he's taking the piss but everybody's accents just make me think they're saying uh so rotarian

Diana:

No. Rotarian.

Liz:

not fruterian

Diana:

Well, they can't figure out where the nail gun got plugged in because there's no generator. But guess what that Dean finds in the porta potty? Another one of these old ing coins, which also I'm very disappointed.

Liz:

Gross.

Diana:

Why are these cops not finding these coins everywhere?

Liz:

They're just not looking very hard or they're probably just like, whatever, that's a coin.

Diana:

So

Liz:

Which

Diana:

weird.

Liz:

is probably what I would be like, that's a coin. Okay.

Diana:

Well, anyway, so as Dean goes inside the construction office, which is basically a portable building like they always are, and Sam tells him like, well, I not everybody likes him. I found a connection. Tada. Wendy, the realtor who's dead, Carl, the architect who's dead, and our Dewey guy who is the construction guy all were working on a shopping center together and the deal fell apart.

Liz:

And so Sam is reading this in their emails and my brain, all I can think is like, oh, did somebody then hack in and then pose at somebody in the middle of this email thread and take it over? Because I just assume that's what happens next in the story. But it's not.

Diana:

No,

Liz:

We

Diana:

it's

Liz:

just

Diana:

not.

Liz:

don't know why it fell apart.

Diana:

But there's one person on this email chain who isn't dead. And that's Don Stark. Dean recognizes that name. So we bop downtown. We bop, like that

Liz:

You can pop.

Diana:

bop downtown.

Liz:

You pop. Okay.

Diana:

And, uh, there's standing in front of a bust of Donald Stark. Hmm.

Liz:

Yep, yep. And I accidentally wrote John Stark, but I don't know where my brain was going. But

Diana:

HAAA!

Liz:

then Sam calls out Dean for drinking out of a flask, you know, on the job.

Diana:

He calls him Bad Santa and that is hilarious.

Liz:

He did that is hilarious. And also you're not a real agent. Like you're just two dudes, like that are pretending to like that are committing

Diana:

Well,

Liz:

felonies.

Diana:

that's true.

Liz:

And so like, I think if you like, anytime you're gonna drink, drink while you're committing a felony.

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

That's the time to drink on the job, you

Diana:

I

Liz:

know?

Diana:

guess. Well, in the meantime, Bobby has identified one of the coins and they are old Romanian coins.

Liz:

Interesting, okay.

Diana:

Hmm, weird. And all the plants around Dawn's bust are dead too. Huh, just like Wendy's bench. Interesting. Oh wait, Dean wasn't too drunk to be observant of that. Maybe the whiskey's working for

Liz:

Maybe,

Diana:

him.

Liz:

or maybe they're also just visiting my front yard because that is what the dead plants all out there look like right now. Cause it's 125 degrees. So,

Diana:

We get

Liz:

well,

Diana:

kind of a pointless scene right after this. Sorry, go ahead.

Liz:

I just have my note to say Leviathan's on his way. Do do

Diana:

It is. It's a very

Liz:

do.

Diana:

weird scene. It's just him driving in like his like super generic sedan

Liz:

Do do

Diana:

while See the Funny Little Clown by Bobby Goldsboro plays.

Liz:

And it's such a weird song to choose, and I don't really know, but I'm just like, he's on his way!

Diana:

Yeah, I don't know what this means, but he is? Like, that's all I got, I don't know.

Liz:

Like, they're not, like, it's almost, there should be this tension that's building up from like, he's coming or something, but like, nobody cares.

Diana:

No. No, it's this weird song about a clown that nobody knows. I

Liz:

Ah,

Diana:

mean, people

Liz:

anyways,

Diana:

know it, but.

Liz:

yep.

Diana:

So Sam and Dean go visit good old Don Stark. Do you want to talk about it now or do you want to wait?

Liz:

shut. Oh, no, well, by no sense. A back in prosperity and come the boys with shut the up that spike was screams and dies. So that

Diana:

Yeah, so we'll

Liz:

is

Diana:

hit

Liz:

the

Diana:

we'll hit this a little more a little later. But yes, Don Stark is played by the one and only James Marsters, AKA Spike.

Liz:

which is why now at that point, Diana, did you realize this is why I love this episode?

Diana:

Yes. And it's

Liz:

You're

Diana:

actually

Liz:

like,

Diana:

a really fun one. I mean,

Liz:

it

Diana:

not

Liz:

was

Diana:

like

Liz:

really

Diana:

actually,

Liz:

fun,

Diana:

but it's a really

Liz:

but

Diana:

fun

Liz:

you

Diana:

one

Liz:

know,

Diana:

still.

Liz:

but this is like in my life, this is huge.

Diana:

I

Liz:

My

Diana:

don't want

Liz:

world's

Diana:

to I don't want to dissect

Liz:

my.

Diana:

that. All right. So we've got they're all he acknowledges that they're all that he was in business with all these people that things kind of fell apart. Then his assistant, Jenny, pops in. She's a cute blonde and she's running errands and she made him cupcakes. Yeah.

Liz:

Really, this episode really made me want some ing cupcakes.

Diana:

I always want cupcakes.

Liz:

It's

Diana:

But I

Liz:

fair.

Diana:

made cobbler this weekend instead.

Liz:

Ooh, nice. You know, HEV has like this like pre almost baked cobbler, like in their, like they're like the, the section

Diana:

torturing

Liz:

for meals

Diana:

me.

Liz:

that you cook at home. So they have like desserts there. So they have like a brookies. So there's like a cookie and

Diana:

Mm.

Liz:

a brownie that you can like, so it's parbate. That's the word I was looking for. And they have that with a cobbler too. And I just think it's nice. It feels like you have a homemade one, but you didn't actually have to like do shit.

Diana:

I made mine with frozen blackberries because I had them. So anyways,

Liz:

Yeah.

Diana:

it was pretty easy. And it's all gone already because I made it Sunday and we had, it was a small serving one.

Liz:

Sure,

Diana:

It really was.

Liz:

that's

Diana:

It really

Liz:

why.

Diana:

was.

Liz:

Yeah.

Diana:

So, but Dean likes to think that super sus that he's got this super cute assistant that is making cupcakes, which is fair,

Liz:

Well,

Diana:

but.

Liz:

they're also very flirty with each other. Like

Diana:

They're

Liz:

that

Diana:

very

Liz:

was,

Diana:

friendly.

Liz:

they're very friendly. And granted, you know, being a woman in all male field, I've had coworkers, bosses that I have talked to in this way probably wasn't appropriate, but you know, like, but Sam and Dean are like, nah, he's banging her. That's,

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

yeah.

Diana:

So Sam's going to go investigate upstairs because he uses the excuse of going to the bathroom. And Dean just tries to start keep questioning while this is happening about like, Oh, well, you know, are you that respected? Tell me about rivals, blah, blah. And he just, Don's got all the answers. And Sam snoops around upstairs realizes that the wife's half of the closet's pretty much empty.

Liz:

Now the wife's have a majestic ing closet

Diana:

It's a majestic

Liz:

that

Diana:

closet.

Liz:

I would stab somebody for.

Diana:

It is

Liz:

I

Diana:

majestic.

Liz:

like, yes, the felonies that I would be drinking during would be like stabbing somebody for that closet.

Diana:

Yeah,

Liz:

That was

Diana:

reasonable.

Liz:

so nice.

Diana:

It's a good closet. But there's

Liz:

Oh,

Diana:

a couple

Liz:

so.

Diana:

things including a broken pair of heels and a box of witchy shit.

Liz:

what I kind of feel for the heels. Like, you know, like she was like, she was moving and she was doing the, I had to clean out my shit. And she was like, nah, it was over the to do with these heels.

Diana:

These

Liz:

I'm

Diana:

are

Liz:

never

Diana:

broken,

Liz:

gonna fix

Diana:

they're

Liz:

them.

Diana:

staying here.

Liz:

you Dawn, you take them.

Diana:

t something very different in: 2011

Liz:

Yep.

Diana:

today.

Liz:

They sure did. And she just has a random office tower signed by Trump and Tina's very impressed.

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

And we're just like, we didn't know. The world is different. So, but

Diana:

as

Liz:

Sam's just like.

Diana:

Sam has figured some shit out. He pops back down and he's like, yeah, so tell me about you and your wife splitting up.

Liz:

And I kind of liked how he was just like, boom! Like

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

he was this very nice like burn way. Like, and we don't often see this part, the side

Diana:

Mm-hmm.

Liz:

of his personality.

Diana:

He was very proud of himself

Liz:

I

Diana:

and

Liz:

liked

Diana:

should

Liz:

it.

Diana:

be But I got old Don's like trying to play this shit off like a temporary heat. She took all her shoes, man She took all her shoes.

Liz:

She

Diana:

It

Liz:

took

Diana:

isn't

Liz:

her shoes, she ain't

Diana:

it's

Liz:

coming

Diana:

not

Liz:

back.

Diana:

all of them. It's not temporary

Liz:

Yeah. Cause

Diana:

But

Liz:

nobody, she doesn't want to have to move that shit back in.

Diana:

So Dean figured, guesses that it was an affair and Don like, oh yeah, I admire confident women. Okay, Don.

Liz:

Hahahaha

Diana:

But not Jenny, he makes it clear that it's not his assistant. It was a business associate. And so they figured out that it was Wendy, ding, ding. So Don and Wendy had a thing. And I'm

Liz:

Yeah,

Diana:

guessing

Liz:

it

Diana:

that-

Liz:

wasn't the young blonde, it was just to be clear, it was the older blonde, it was different, totally different.

Diana:

Not, yeah, totally different. And Sam tells, so they have tell Dawn that he needs to be careful and that he needs to apologize and that he needs to grovel.

Liz:

He used to take his wife to dinner

Diana:

Dinner and grovel.

Liz:

and grumble. And you're like, yes, you do. So one of the things that I have noted, so when they're leaving the place, that I noted that he was just like, oh, I know why I noted this, because it grossed me out. Because Sam's like, well, she's just powerful enough, she can just be pissed off, right? And

Diana:

and

Liz:

that's why

Diana:

just power

Liz:

all this stuff

Diana:

to make all

Liz:

is

Diana:

these

Liz:

dying.

Diana:

plants die.

Liz:

And then douchebag Dean, like your douchebag meter, Mr. Winchester has like gone off. I haven't had to pull this out in a while. And now it is just off the roof. It's going, because you said she was PMSing at it.

Diana:

Hmm

Liz:

Go yourself, Mr. Winchester. I'm not dating you anymore. I'm dating Dawn. Okay, so.

Diana:

But he also does. And then he does also make a kind of a like he makes comparison of whoever Dawn's wife Maggie is to and to and to marriage Dawn to Darren and be which that he's like oblivious that his wife's a witch. That's kind of funny.

Liz:

Yeah, but he liked the reason he liked it was because the cool kid man played one of the bit which characters and he likes it wants to a run in.

Diana:

Well,

Liz:

Douchebag meter. That's the sound

Diana:

she's.

Liz:

it makes. It sounds like a cat.

Diana:

She's

Liz:

I don't know why.

Diana:

looking. All right. So, well, I think there's layers of reasons there. So Dean calls Bobby to get Terminix for a witch and they head to Maggie's. And as they get to Maggie's house, Dean does a little another little B&E because they just have no issue with doing these in the house is basically full of I guess just rented her bot and she hasn't

Liz:

No,

Diana:

fully

Liz:

it

Diana:

moved

Liz:

looks,

Diana:

in.

Liz:

what do you mean just rented? Just, no, this can happen like months later. Months later, you can move into a place and still have those boxes everywhere. There is no judgment on you, ma'am.

Diana:

Okay, noted.

Liz:

Hehehe

Diana:

Either way, so he goes in, there's a lot of unpacked boxes is what I will say. And he finds like a mini altar for lack of a better word. What would

Liz:

No,

Diana:

you call it? Okay.

Liz:

I called it an altar and a literal murder board.

Diana:

Yeah, yeah, it is. It's an actual, it's a truly

Liz:

And that

Diana:

a literal

Liz:

is a

Diana:

murder

Liz:

literal

Diana:

board.

Liz:

murder warrant.

Diana:

with candles and herbs and symbols and oh funny enough pictures photographs of Wendy Carl Dewey and wait who's this? Oh Jenny's on there but Jenny ain't dead yet. So that's not

Liz:

Uh,

Diana:

good.

Liz:

no,

Diana:

Roe.

Liz:

it's probably not.

Diana:

So now they've got to go figure that out. And Dean is still like this he thinks it's just further evidence that Dawn and Jenny had a thing a flare a flare. A fling.

Liz:

Flair they just had a think Diana is thinking about her truck. That is

Diana:

I'm

Liz:

completely

Diana:

flaring.

Liz:

what just ing happened. Diana was thinking about the new truck she wants. And she was just like flair

Diana:

Flare sign. Just start saying flare randomly. So outside, who pulls up to the house while Dean's inside? But a little Porsche. Is this? I think it was a Porsche, right? Porsche. Yeah,

Liz:

Yeah,

Diana:

coupe.

Liz:

it was

Diana:

It was.

Liz:

a port. It was a port with vanity plates.

Diana:

Yes. And it's Maggie. Oh,

Liz:

And who is she?

Diana:

who's this? Do we recognize Maggie? Yes, Maggie is played by the one and only Charisma Carpenter.

Liz:

Oh my God, it's my favorite boss ass Liz. It is Cordy or Cordelia, depending on how you want to know her. So now we have not one, but two characters from the Weedinverse who have been in this. And this is not the first time this has happened on the show. In fact, it's happened dozens of times, but sometimes it hasn't, but it has. So Diana, what we're going to do today is I'm going to quiz you.

Diana:

Great. Just

Liz:

I know

Diana:

kidding.

Liz:

your favorite

Diana:

Oh.

Liz:

thing. And what we're going to do is we're going to talk. I'm going to give you a person, give you an actor's name. And for what we share this along the YouTube, you know, in two thousand twenty seven. You can follow along there or probably post on our socials as well. So I'm going to give you a picture and a name

Diana:

Okay.

Liz:

of a of an actor, actress,

Diana:

Got it.

Liz:

actor, you know, whatever

Diana:

Actor.

Liz:

that's been.

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

And you're going to have to determine whether or not they were in supernatural. Buffy the Vampire Slayer or the show that you have not watched, which

Diana:

I've

Liz:

is

Diana:

watched

Liz:

Angel.

Diana:

some of it.

Liz:

You have not. I, this was, I told her I was, oh damn it. I just lost the thing that I was going to share. So we'll have to see if I can get back to it. Um, so I said to one of my friends earlier, my co-host still hasn't watched Angel so I can get extra pleasure out of teasing her for that during this whole segment. So, you know, that is, I do. I do value and appreciate your friendship, but I also like the chance to with you.

Diana:

That's how our friendship works, right?

Liz:

It's not how all friendship works except I lost the ing sideshow. So,

Diana:

Uh oh.

Liz:

uh, let's see if we can get it back. Cause I went to that text guy always. So maybe bring it on the front. I know how technology works. There we go. All right. Okay.

Diana:

Here we go.

Liz:

So there's a very, if you, there's a very pretty screen there. It has pictures of the title. You know, it's gorgeous. All right. So our first, first person,

Diana:

Hmm

Liz:

this is a picture of the actor. Jeffrey Dean Morgan and he's holding a chicken. I just thought it was a good picture.

Diana:

There's a good picture of him. He looks very handsome.

Liz:

So of these shows, which of the three was he in?

Diana:

Well, we obviously know he's supernatural, so that's one. And I don't remember him in both these. I'm going to go with Angel just as a wild guess.

Liz:

All right, so let's see how Diana fare. So yes, he was in this in supernatural as the world's shittiest dad, John Winchester.

Diana:

Yes.

Liz:

And he was in that for many seasons and he was an angel. So you were correct. Just a process, he played Sam Ryan in season three, episode 12.

Diana:

Ha ha.

Liz:

All right, our next actor, Amy Acker. Which

Diana:

Hmm.

Liz:

of these shows was Miss Amy Akarin?

Diana:

I, I'm going to guess on, uh, let's go with Buffy and Supernatural.

Liz:

So you're correct, I was Supernatural. She was in season one, episode three. Oh, also to be fair, I did not use any Supernatural. Like if they were in Supernatural, they were, it's up to now. I haven't gone

Diana:

Right. Nothing

Liz:

beyond,

Diana:

past this.

Liz:

nothing

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

beyond, I'm not that mean.

Diana:

Thank you.

Liz:

But she was in season one, episode three, Dead in the Water, so going back. And she was not in Buffy, she was. Winifred

Diana:

Ah.

Liz:

Burkle, an angel main character many seasons until spoiler alert, she becomes Illyria. But now you have to watch that and figure it out. And

Diana:

What the ?

Liz:

she becomes this very hot thing. Look at her, she's got like blue hair

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

and like these blue eyes. She's like ing smoking hot as Illyria. I think it's just kind of like all women look better with like weird skin colors and hairs like this. I don't know.

Diana:

Is that what it is?

Liz:

Maybe. Look at Miss Argentina

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

in Beetlejuice. Look at all the women in the Star Wars Cantina. I don't know. Like we just kind of look good with tents. Anyways. All right. So that was, so you've, you're like one for 75. I don't know, let's let her score right now. All right. Our next actor, Julie Bens.

Diana:

Mmm. Uh, shit. All three.

Liz:

You are correct, sir. Okay, so in Supernatural, she was Leila Rourke. That was in season one, episode 12, Face. In Buffy, she was on the very first episode of Buffy as Darla and on Angel, she was also Darla. Look, she was pregnant. And you're probably like, she's a vampire. How is she pregnant? Well, you would know that if you watched Angel, Liz. So go watch ing Angel.

Diana:

Noted.

Liz:

This is all just a giant boy to get you to finish a series. Okay,

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

Amber Benson.

Diana:

Supernatural and Buffy.

Liz:

You are correct. So in Supernatural, we had her in season two and season six as Lenore, one of our favorite vegetarian fruitarian vampires. And oh, oh no, damn

Diana:

No,

Liz:

it. There was,

Diana:

that's right.

Liz:

I had an amazing picture of her like macking down with, that just may show up, but I had a picture of her like macking down with Alison Hannigan as Willow, cause that was just awesome. So. I ed up this. I made a slideshow and I ed it up. Whatever. This isn't the job. All right, so our next actor Rob Benedict

Diana:

Him eating Peggy is our picture.

Liz:

And I have shown a picture of Rob Benedict meeting our possum, Maggie,

Diana:

Yes.

Liz:

and my butt. Yeah.

Diana:

Oh, yeah. I'm going to go with Supernatural and Angel.

Liz:

So actually he was in obviously Supernatural. He was Chuck

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

many, many episodes, but he was in Buffy, not Angel.

Diana:

Oh shit.

Liz:

He was

Diana:

Okay.

Liz:

the vampire Jape, which is an unfortunate name. Um,

Diana:

Terrible aim.

Liz:

he was in season four, episode 17, and he was one of Adam's minions. He was actually supposed to be in another episode, new moon rising, which

Diana:

Mmm.

Liz:

revealed that the hairy demons were part of Adam's test, but that was cut. And I'm kind of sad because

Diana:

Yeah,

Liz:

I want to know about the hairy demons.

Diana:

that's odd. Okay, weird.

Liz:

All right. So our next actor, Eliza Dushku.

Diana:

What?

Liz:

Why do I say Dushku? Sorry.

Diana:

Well, I know she's in Buffy. And she's popped up. I think she pops up an angel. I think I'm just going to go with those two because I haven't seen her here. I don't remember if I did.

Liz:

You are correct. She was not in Supernatural, but she got to do a picture of faith in there doing like a fun little steak thing. She was

Diana:

Staky.

Liz:

awesome in that. And she was then she goes and she was an angel. She was six episodes of that. She also just like her and her husband just donated $7.5 million to a hospital for focusing on substance abuse disorders.

Diana:

Wow.

Liz:

Like just baller Liz. Like yeah, just, you know, she's a boss lady. So, but She was never a super natural. Womp

Diana:

Okay. Womp Womp.

Liz:

womp. And okay, so I think this is our last one. No, it's not. It's not. All

Diana:

Mm-mm.

Liz:

right. So, uh, Mercedes McNabb.

Diana:

Hmm. Supernatural and Buffy.

Liz:

She was in all three, which

Diana:

Ta!

Liz:

you would know if you'd watched Angel. So she was Lucy in Supernatural. So that was season three, episode seven, Fresh Blood. So she did play a vampire in this, but a very

Diana:

That's

Liz:

different.

Diana:

right. I knew that was, I knew that. Damn it.

Liz:

No, you

Diana:

Oh.

Liz:

had Supernatural right. You just didn't get that she was an angel.

Diana:

I know, but I feel like I would have

Liz:

Yeah.

Diana:

known that was...

Liz:

That she was Harmony, Kendall and Buffy. And if you're following along, I have one of my favorite things where Harmony dressed up as Buffy in order to role play with Spike. Glad that you were open to this in the bedroom. Harmony, good girlfriend. Um, although he was a shitty girlfriend, but she does come back in angel as Harmony. Luring Diana in closer. Look at this. Look at this character that you love. She appears in the season that show as well. And she's actually, she's like ing amazing and angel, I love her that. All right, so this is the last, this is the last one. You know, the one of my loves in my life that's not, you know, that's not Spike or Crowley. And that is Mr. Chad Lindbergh, who... If you are in North Carolina, there is a car show like it's all like Fast and the Furious style, like whatever the you call the modern shit. Like I don't know, I go to those car shows, I go to the old car shows, but the new

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

car shows where things go room, they do things in the

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

parking lot. He is hosting one of those in North Carolina. I think that's

Diana:

Huh.

Liz:

awesome. Yeah, I was gonna send it to Dave, but I forgot. But anyway, so Chad Lindbergh.

Diana:

Well, it is supernatural, obviously.

Liz:

That's all right. That's supernatural. He is obviously my gorgeous, wonderful Mr. Ash.

Diana:

I don't know. I'm gonna say that's it.

Liz:

No, he was actually in Buffy. He was in season one Buffy like as a tiny little Chad Lindbergh baby.

Diana:

Oh, my gosh, I would have been recognized him.

Liz:

Lindbergh baby

Diana:

Baby.

Liz:

and there's a Lindbergh baby reference in this episode that

Diana:

That's

Liz:

we're watching

Diana:

funny.

Liz:

tonight so hilarious

Diana:

There is.

Liz:

but yeah he was he played Tave Kirby in iRobot Eugene who was and he has this little earring if you can see that little like dorky

Diana:

Yup, little

Liz:

ing

Diana:

tiny hoop.

Liz:

earring like oh it's such a great episode and he was in that and then he gets referenced in another one but that's the only one he's in because I think Malak eats him but That was our crossover, but if you go to Supernatural Wiki, they list the crossovers between Supernatural and basically the weed inverse, and it's a lot, which is kind of to be expected, right? And they're a similar genre. The genres are that far apart.

Diana:

Right.

Liz:

I could see the actors, like the age ranges and stuff being similar, and just a lot of the same directors and producers worked on both of them. So that makes a lot of sense. But thank you for playing my game.

Diana:

Yay. I didn't lose, but.

Liz:

Diana's like, of course she can't score. It's so I really love Diana. She's

Diana:

I mean,

Liz:

competitive.

Diana:

I lost

Liz:

Okay.

Diana:

like half points multiple times. I did pretty good.

Liz:

I think you did pretty good.

Diana:

I think pretty much everything, almost everything I got wrong, except for the real obscure one was angel related. So I'll take it.

Liz:

Yeah.

Diana:

All right. So now we've met Maggie and she is, uh, Dean is trying to call her or call Dean. Sorry. Sam has tried came and talked now Sam's trying to call Dean to get the out of the house because he broke it. And of course, like phones aren't working because that's how it always works, right? When shit's important, you can't get through. So he basically he's trying to like slow her down and she's like, Nope, I've got an emergency. Bye. Come back later. And

Liz:

And wait,

Diana:

so.

Liz:

no say this is how you don't talk to cops folks applause cuz she's just like I know my rights I got shit to go. I don't have time for you. Mr. Federal agent I'm going inside and but Sam's just like well, I'm gonna do some

Diana:

He leans on her car, bounces her car until the alarm goes off. It's pretty funny.

Liz:

It was.

Diana:

So she's pretty annoyed, but what else? It allows it allows Dean to get out of the house. That's what matters.

Liz:

And it is like this whole scene is that so well shot and

Diana:

Oh yeah.

Liz:

u know, look at that old like: 1960

Diana:

It was

Liz:

was

Diana:

very

Liz:

just

Diana:

heisty scene. Absolutely.

Liz:

yeah.

Diana:

Yeah. And so they, they go to leave. And of course now, and they're going to go try to save Jenny because then they know she's next on the list. But at this point Maggie goes to check out her altar and realizes that, Oh, Jenny's picture is gone. So she's well, one of the photos, cause she has more apparently that

Liz:

She's got

Diana:

she's,

Liz:

backup

Diana:

what the

Liz:

pictures. She's like,

Diana:

Liz:

oh no.

Diana:

that she's got it. She's got to take care of shit. She's mad. They know.

Liz:

se like, I guess this is like: 2011

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

or something. And she just like, oh yeah. Hey.

Diana:

Watch this and push the button. Stephanie. So Jenny's baking more cupcakes, which I just find confusing because it's not like all she does. I mean, God bless her. I mean, if that's your hobby, do you?

Liz:

Maybe that's her goal, right? Like she is just like working for Mr. Stark to like fund her

Diana:

Oh,

Liz:

like

Diana:

her bakery.

Liz:

her way. Like she

Diana:

You're

Liz:

wants

Diana:

right.

Liz:

to be a bakery

Diana:

She wants to open a bakery.

Liz:

or she wants to go

Diana:

That's

Liz:

into the food

Diana:

what

Liz:

network

Diana:

it is.

Liz:

or something.

Diana:

No,

Liz:

Like she

Diana:

that's

Liz:

would,

Diana:

it.

Liz:

yeah, yeah.

Diana:

That's what it is. So and they but they look a lot like muffins to me and I'm irritated by this.

Liz:

Well, they were vanilla cupcakes and then

Diana:

But

Liz:

till

Diana:

I love

Liz:

like,

Diana:

a

Liz:

yeah,

Diana:

vanilla cupcake. They just look like weird muffins. To me. But

Liz:

fair. I still want baked goods, I'd eat them, I don't care. I'm

Diana:

so

Liz:

like, give me those ing carbs.

Diana:

we do a lot of cutting back and forth now. And this is going to have us with Maggie drawing a bloody sigil on Jenny's face on her picture. Well, Jenny takes a bite of one of her cupcakes and I'm like, damn, a cupcake does sound good, right? Except when she takes that bite, well, in the other house, Maggie is doing her incantation. We get blood dripping down Jenny's face. This is so upsetting, the scene. I don't even know. You tell you, you go, go for it.

Liz:

So Cordelia is, sorry, Maggie, whatever. So what she's saying is she has, she's speaking Romanian. So you can actually pull this like and detect the language, Google detects it as Romanian. And it translates to the power of black magic condemns you to suffering and death. That's so sweet. Just put that on a sampler across like, can you imagine if I took off like the no soliciting sign in the front of my house and just put the power of black magic and dims you to suffering in depth? Nobody would ring my ing doorbell. It would be great. And I think that the

Diana:

I think your

Liz:

blood

Diana:

Amazon guy might give up on you too. That's the problem.

Liz:

Or Like Me More, you don't know. Like he works for Bezos. He's probably, like he's not working black magic in

Diana:

He's

Liz:

the

Diana:

like,

Liz:

back

Diana:

yes,

Liz:

of his van. He's just

Diana:

yes.

Liz:

like, we all know what Bezos is giving them too. So, but Jenny's cupcakes, like they're a little bloody and then she had the base of the, people who are doing the special effects were just like said she was an absolute champ. and that she was just having so much fun, like with the blood squirting out of her, which I would also be like, yes,

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

let me do this. And then this cute little beating heart.

Diana:

I'm not gonna lie, I was very confused when they first showed it. I'm like, what the is that? I'm like, it's a heart,

Liz:

Yeah,

Diana:

it's too small. I don't know what's happening, but

Liz:

I would

Diana:

yes.

Liz:

have liked it more if it had been a trickster style heart, like which is this I think that also would have been confusing them because you probably thought it was a trickster but like a Valentine's Day like you know the ones that you ride on

Diana:

I don't know. It was

Liz:

like

Diana:

an

Liz:

this

Diana:

anatomical beating

Liz:

it was an anatomically

Diana:

miniature beating

Liz:

correct

Diana:

heart.

Liz:

heart which I almost wore tonight like I have a necklace with a black heart on it but it didn't go with this shirt. So my shirt by the way, if you're not watching this on video says willow in the streets vampire willow in the sheets I did have to hold myself back during the Buffy angel supernatural quiz I was like, well, I put willow in here. I'm gonna finish things like no miss. We have to We have a time

Diana:

Share the love.

Liz:

So, I think it was cute until she starts vomiting blood but

Diana:

Yeah,

Liz:

she

Diana:

she's

Liz:

also

Diana:

choking. She's there's blood over she realizes that she's gagging and suffocating and all the things but

Liz:

They've

Diana:

luckily Sam

Liz:

also,

Diana:

and Dean

Liz:

they,

Diana:

break in

Liz:

yeah, and they made a very specific choice to make the sink that white. So like the blood is just like,

Diana:

Ah,

Liz:

it's very saturated, which

Diana:

yeah.

Liz:

I think, I think this is why it's not scary to me. Like it's so like, it's so overly saturated that it's cartoony.

Diana:

Yeah, no, I agree. I agree with that. And then I like that about this episode. That's what made it like. So I may be able to like laugh and enjoy death

Liz:

It's fun

Diana:

because

Liz:

horror.

Diana:

it seems really ed up.

Liz:

It's

Diana:

Otherwise,

Liz:

very yeah, it's

Diana:

like,

Liz:

fun.

Diana:

oh,

Liz:

Can't

Diana:

this guy

Liz:

be

Diana:

got

Liz:

horror.

Diana:

shot to death with a nail gun. Braha. Oh, shit.

Liz:

It's very,

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

it's very same Raimi. Like,

Diana:

Yes,

Liz:

you know, like.

Diana:

I love that. And I love that about it. So they say I'm a Dean bust in and they've their solution is to search for the coin, find the coin and then discharge a firearm in the kitchen at the coin.

Liz:

Sam shoots the coin.

Diana:

Oh!

Liz:

He shoots the coin. What? He shoots the coin.

Diana:

I

Liz:

I

Diana:

mean

Liz:

can't.

Diana:

it works, it just,

Liz:

But what?

Diana:

it's just a weird,

Liz:

How is that the choice?

Diana:

I don't know.

Liz:

God.

Diana:

But and then she, Jenny is rightfully panicking about there were hearts in her cupcakes.

Liz:

She was amazing. Like this actress, I can't wait till you find out who she is. But like this like scene of her freaking out about the beating hearts, tiny beating hearts

Diana:

There's tiny, pretty

Liz:

in

Diana:

hearts,

Liz:

the car.

Diana:

hearts in my cupcakes. Hearts in my cupcakes. Oh

Liz:

And

Diana:

my

Liz:

just

Diana:

God, it's

Liz:

like,

Diana:

so

Liz:

and

Diana:

good.

Liz:

then you see where she like snaps out of like her

Diana:

And like,

Liz:

like

Diana:

what the ?

Liz:

freak out

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

and just be like, holy shit, what the is going on like, it was just so well, it's just so well done.

Diana:

It really was.

Liz:

Love it.

Diana:

So, yeah. And basically they're like, yeah, you were hexed and BTW, you probably shouldn't banged on anymore. And she's like, what the , I'm not banging done. Gross.

Liz:

EWWW he's married! Which also means I gotta love her more! She's just like...

Diana:

Yeah, like, ew. They

Liz:

They

Diana:

ever

Liz:

couldn't

Diana:

even

Liz:

have

Diana:

crossed

Liz:

been like

Diana:

her mind.

Liz:

she's old! She's just like... HE'S MARRIED! EWWWWWWW

Diana:

So we cut to Maggie's setting up her auction with her BFF Sue. I don't know about BFF, but her current BFF

Liz:

We

Diana:

Sue.

Liz:

think I probably, I don't know, at least

Diana:

Well, I'm just...

Liz:

Sue wants to be the BFF and

Diana:

yeah.

Liz:

a lot more. But she's

Diana:

And

Liz:

just

Diana:

I'm just

Liz:

like...

Diana:

gonna say Maggie's dress is this really pretty blue satin wrap dress, and I would wear it. And I don't wear blue.

Liz:

I wouldn't

Diana:

Not

Liz:

wear

Diana:

for a reason,

Liz:

it, but

Diana:

I just

Liz:

she

Diana:

don't.

Liz:

rocks it. She rocks it. She is just, but she's being like boss rich Liz. Like, you know, just like, this is my charity. This is what I do with my time. Like I guess I'm going to do paintings.

Diana:

Yep,

Liz:

And one

Diana:

and we

Liz:

of

Diana:

find

Liz:

the first

Diana:

out that

Liz:

paint. Yeah.

Diana:

Sue's the one that ratted out Dawn to Maggie for cheating on her with Wendy.

Liz:

Yeah, and she may love her too much. One of the things also, like the paintings that are in the galleries, one of the first ones you go with that you see is the supernatural production designer, Jerry Wannick and his dog, too.

Diana:

Awesome. Well, Don shows up and he wants to talk to Maggie, but Sue intercepts him and tries to like intervene. But he's like, look, no, talking to Maggie, by the way, I've been patient. And he like tries to like. I don't know, like make the Wendy thing, blow the Wendy thing off. And like, it's just a really awkward scene and he is not get it.

Liz:

No, he doesn't get it. He wants her to cool it. But it's just like this very, I don't know, it's just wonderful. The chemistry between James Marsters and Charisma Carpenter is

Diana:

Yeah,

Liz:

really

Diana:

it's so

Liz:

great.

Diana:

good. Yeah.

Liz:

And just I think they gave them really good dialogue, right? And so we get a lot of this back and forth

Diana:

about their

Liz:

that's

Diana:

relationship

Liz:

going on.

Diana:

and what's going on in their relationship and all of that.

Liz:

like this flavor of like the: 1950

Diana:

Very,

Liz:

like

Diana:

yeah,

Liz:

yeah

Diana:

like a little over the top, but also very natural at the same time.

Liz:

Yeah, it was wonderful. It was just so good.

Diana:

So he mentions that the FBI agents came by and she's like, Nope, they're hunters. Ooh, she knows.

Liz:

You're a ing idiot, dude. Like, I know what's up. Like, they're ing hunters.

Diana:

Mm-hmm.

Liz:

And then he just like, kind of like does like, dude shit. And she's just like, you're so cute when you try to tell me what to do. And I love

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

her.

Diana:

And he leaves and then the face falls off of his bust.

Liz:

And James Marsters actually had one of those shipped to his house because they had to make many of them. So he was like, I'm keeping one. So

Diana:

I

Liz:

somewhere

Diana:

wouldn't know.

Liz:

in James Marsters is one of these bus. And that's great.

Diana:

I like it. So Sam and Dean see like Don leaving and see this go down. And luckily Bobby calls then he's like, I've got instructions to take her out. And we get a cute scene where Dean thinks he can remember things, but he can't. He has to write it down.

Liz:

And so, but also they have the, they're in the car, they're just like working their case. And then like the chemistry like between Sam and Dean right now is like kind of back to normal, right? Like we're kind of feeling like this is like old school, like you're just on a hunt, doing

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

shit.

Diana:

Yep. So now they've got to go do, uh, while Maggie's getting ready for her auction, Dean and Sam are back at the motel and Dean's eating a whole pie because of course he is. And Sam shows up with a bag full of unrefrigerated chicken feet.

Liz:

But the chicken feet have expired because the butcher's fridge has died And at this point they said it's almost like, you know, the luck in the town has run out And so we've got smelly chicken feet, which probably would not stop me from eating the pie I would just move them to the other side of the room We've got Sue like getting a little handsy with Cordelia slash Maggie

Diana:

Yeah. And and in that, like first, like it's pretty funny when Sue puts her hand on Maggie's shoulder and she's like, that reminds me I need to check on the finger sandwiches. I was like, OK, that's why I started thinking, I'm like, maybe Sue just wants to be BFF. Maybe she's not actually because.

Liz:

No, I was thinking that Sue wants to be more than BFF. Sue wants to take

Diana:

Oh,

Liz:

her BFF to another level.

Diana:

next level. OK,

Liz:

That's how

Diana:

I didn't

Liz:

I was

Diana:

read that,

Liz:

reading

Diana:

but

Liz:

this, but whatever. Like

Diana:

so.

Liz:

either way, she is too much. She is a friend that wants

Diana:

too

Liz:

to be

Diana:

involved.

Liz:

more, wants to be more of a friend than you should be sometimes.

Diana:

Well, now they're going to do a toast of martinis because the auction's about to kick off and everybody's happy. It's going to be a great night. And they've got some martinis with olives on them. But one of Sue's olives is an eyeball, which is very distressing to her, as you can imagine. And so she screams very loudly. And we see Don is outside grinning in his car. Oh, shit. It's not just that Maggie's a witch. Don has some shit going to. That's where

Liz:

Ooh,

Diana:

we

Liz:

ooh,

Diana:

know.

Liz:

what is happening with this couple? Then the paintings start to melt, which apparently took a while for them to figure out how to do, and they've used crayons for it. And I love the effect. I love that it's not just CGI, but it's also just like, it's just a wonderful effect. It's just really good.

Diana:

Yeah, no, it's ing rad. And Sue is super confused as to how Don would have rigged this whole thing to go down, which is reasonable because like in normal world, if you saw a bunch of paintings melt and you're like, wait, who he did this to you, how the did he do this? Seems very reasonable. But, you know, she's like, she's still like, don't worry, Don's a dick. He can't take the people that love you away from you. And then a silver platter flies over and

Liz:

Yeah,

Diana:

decapitates Sue.

Liz:

I love that like Sue, like you'd also see kind of like the craziness of her going so you don't really care what you don't care that she dies, right? So she's like kind of going into like the single white female thing, where she's just like, I told you he's a dick. And

Diana:

I

Liz:

then

Diana:

didn't

Liz:

she

Diana:

think she was that bad. I really don't.

Liz:

Oh, okay, so maybe you're okay with more clingier women than I am, but no, your friendship shouldn't be this. Okay. So anyways, but I've also loved just like Don Smirk as he drives off. It's very, it's very sparky and sparky, but it's just like James Marshal is hot when he smirks.

Diana:

He does.

Liz:

Maybe that's just it.

Diana:

And Maggie's ready for war. So,

Liz:

She pissed, she pissed.

Diana:

so Sam and Dean show up to check out the auction. They're cops. They're the coroner's there. They see the body and the melted paintings and they're like, well, Dawn's a witch too. Well, shit. So now we've got to go figure this out. So they're going to go to Dawn's house now.

Liz:

And I'm very disappointed this was an opportunity for a man which joke. I always, you should always make the man which joke

Diana:

Manwich?

Liz:

when you

Diana:

No.

Liz:

can. Yes.

Diana:

But also Chet, our Leviathan, is now watching them.

Liz:

He's

Diana:

Which

Liz:

just

Diana:

is

Liz:

watching.

Diana:

not great. Not great.

Liz:

Just watching.

Diana:

So at dawn's, Maggie's there, Sam and Dean go in, and they're going to try their spell with the chicken feet. It does nothing. There's a poof of smoke. And nothing. Apparently it's because the feet weren't chilled.

Liz:

Gotta keep those feet chilled. And also, like you know, this smells really bad. Cause I was eating that one with their rotten chicken feet, but now they're burnt rocketing.

Diana:

So now Don and Maggie are like, it, we're going to kill you because you can't leave alive. So they start doing an incantation together. But Sam's bright idea

Liz:

the

Diana:

is

Liz:

couple

Diana:

now

Liz:

that spells together.

Diana:

couple of spells together. I like

Liz:

I'm going to go ahead and turn it off.

Diana:

it. But Sam's like, whoa, they don't need to kill us. They need marriage counseling.

Liz:

What?

Diana:

Yeah, we're gonna

Liz:

Okay,

Diana:

cancel them.

Liz:

so Deans is like, whatever, we'll try talking. And he starts to talk to them, but he does veers off in a nipple clamps. And then

Diana:

He

Liz:

gets

Diana:

does,

Liz:

distracted.

Diana:

which is, he was doing pretty solid at first, and then he veered off to nipple clamps. It

Liz:

You

Diana:

was very bizarre.

Liz:

have this lesson learned, like you're going to be doing very well, but you veer off the nipple clamps too early,

Diana:

Thanks, go

Liz:

you'll blow

Diana:

on.

Liz:

your load. Okay,

Diana:

Oh,

Liz:

next,

Diana:

will you?

Liz:

moving on. All right, so sand tries.

Diana:

And he's able to bring it kind of back on track. But Baggy doesn't love it and is able to shut him up and throw him around.

Liz:

Yeah, he

Diana:

Dean

Liz:

just gets

Diana:

tries

Liz:

hexed.

Diana:

e yelling at each other about: 1492

Liz:

Tracy and Hepburn,

Diana:

good.

Liz:

that is what I was trying to think of. That is what this reminds me of. Like Dawn

Diana:

Oh.

Liz:

and Maggie remind me very much of a Spencer Tracy, Catherine Hepburn, like

Diana:

Yeah,

Liz:

back and forth

Diana:

back and forth.

Liz:

type of thing, yeah.

Diana:

So we get a great back and forth, though, with talking about the historical their historical relationship, because they've been together, apparently, for like 800 years. What? Oh, that's why

Liz:

That's

Diana:

I also

Liz:

so sweet.

Diana:

that's why I thought Sue was just being extra supportive and not necessarily a BFF, because she's a BF. She's a current best friend. But also, if you've been alive for 800 years, you've had more than one BFF.

Liz:

She doesn't

Diana:

Or what?

Liz:

know,

Diana:

That's right.

Liz:

like Sue

Diana:

So.

Liz:

doesn't know

Diana:

But

Liz:

that it's

Diana:

Sue

Liz:

court,

Diana:

doesn't know that,

Liz:

yeah.

Diana:

but Maggie knows it. So that's why Maggie

Liz:

Well,

Diana:

keeps

Liz:

and Maggie's

Diana:

her at arm's

Liz:

kind

Diana:

length.

Liz:

of a Liz,

Diana:

Well,

Liz:

but

Diana:

that's

Liz:

whatever,

Diana:

true.

Liz:

but she's a boss Liz, right? So,

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

h includes like Dawn throwing: 1492

Diana:

And she mentions the Medici chick. I mean, it's hilarious, it's greatness.

Liz:

Medici or Medici? I don't know. God damn it. Like, I'm gonna go back. I don't remember that again. But

Diana:

Maybe I'm

Liz:

anyways...

Diana:

right. I just yeah, I didn't look it up. I just went by sound. So they come out of Jenny and actually Dean's like, no, no. That they actually aren't a thing. They actually aren't a thing. And they're like, oh, OK, well, never mind on that one. But Dean points out that the positive now is that Maggie and Don are actually talking. It gets Dean gets himself flinged again. But Don and Don throws a swarm of bees around Dean's head. But Don and Maggie agree they can't kill each other and they make out.

Liz:

It's just like the romance of forever. Where is this Hallmark movie? Dawn says to her, just like, he's right. I couldn't kill you. All I ever wanted is you, Mags. I've been crushing on you since forever. You're the woman that I want to never grow old with. And then it's just so hot. And then she's just like, I could never murder you either. And I just think it's just, it is dark romance. And you know, that's my thing. like

Diana:

It is.

Liz:

so I'm just like, oh, hey, Hallmark channel. Here we go. Just shut up and take my money.

Diana:

Again, I take my

Liz:

Make

Diana:

money.

Liz:

do this. Do this. There you go.

Diana:

Well,

Liz:

Mother ers.

Diana:

back at the motel.

Liz:

Once you forget to fix the rider's strike first. So they give

Diana:

Details

Liz:

that to

Diana:

itself.

Liz:

details details. So we go back to our fancy motel.

Diana:

And Dean's drinking from his flask again with getting judgey eyes from Sam. That's the end of the day now. They just soft shit. Why are you doing

Liz:

But

Diana:

that?

Liz:

I just had a brilliant idea. Do you think they collect points? Like,

Diana:

What

Liz:

was

Diana:

do you mean?

Liz:

this like too, like, when they go to different motel stays, like, why are they

Diana:

Which

Liz:

not collecting?

Diana:

hotel are they picking?

Liz:

Like, why don't they have like a chain

Diana:

Because

Liz:

of hotels?

Diana:

they don't want to be tracked, so they can't. They

Liz:

But

Diana:

can't because

Liz:

they could

Diana:

they'll be

Liz:

make

Diana:

tracked.

Liz:

up a fraudulent

Diana:

I

Liz:

account, right? Like, you

Diana:

guess.

Liz:

imagine they should

Diana:

But you

Liz:

have

Diana:

can't check

Liz:

type.

Diana:

in and out of their name

Liz:

They

Diana:

every

Liz:

should

Diana:

time.

Liz:

have a titanium status like across

Diana:

Oh my gosh.

Liz:

like all

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

of the platforms, be using all these points and then just staying off of them. But I saw like the next Winchester, like that's how, this is how you do this in the next life.

Diana:

Travel

Liz:

All right.

Diana:

fail for the Winchesters.

Liz:

All right.

Diana:

Well,

Liz:

Sorry.

Diana:

guess who's waiting in their room, but Chet, our Leviathan Chet. Well, that's not good. And they're not they don't know who the this guy is though. So Dean tries to shoot him bleeds black and the bullet

Liz:

Well,

Diana:

pops

Liz:

he monologues,

Diana:

out.

Liz:

so he knows that he's evil, because he does a bit of a model.

Diana:

Well, yeah, but that's about it. And Sam tries. So they try to fight him, but Chet's definitely going to win. But then all of a sudden, like he gets like electrocuted or something. And we're all like WTF as he collapses like us, Sam and Dean. Everybody's like, what the ? And Dawn is there and Dawn shows up. He's like, what is that thing? You should need to drop that in a bottomless pit. That spell only lasts a few days. Well, shit. So why don't they ask him for what the spell is?

Liz:

Like and maybe he'd probably I don't know but it's also just ridiculously high like so like he comes in He saves the day with like his ing magic. He's like, what the is that throw that the ocean by the way I'm also saving you because Maggie wants to kill you, too

Diana:

So I'm saving your life twice because I saved you from this mother er. And now I'm pulling the coins out from under your beds because while you tried to kill her, even though everything's fine now. So Don, Don takes the coins under their beds and leaves. They are, they are salmoneed

Liz:

Peace!

Diana:

are just pretty like beat up and both just kind of flabbergasted. It's like, what the

Liz:

Yeah,

Diana:

at this point, which is very reasonable.

Liz:

so Don and Maggie just like go off into the sunset and

Diana:

Boom.

Liz:

I just have little hearts in my eyes just like pumping out like, spoiler, they don't ever come back into this. So like, I just assume

Diana:

Aw.

Liz:

they go and live off like their

Diana:

They keep

Liz:

hot

Diana:

living on prosperity

Liz:

life.

Diana:

and doing their thing?

Liz:

For

Diana:

Aw.

Liz:

another 800 years, this is the romance that never ends because they never get old or fat. So.

Diana:

Well Sam and Dean are in the meantime are loading up their car. Chet's chained up in the back seat, not hidden at all. So I hope they're not stopping anywhere because that's super ing sus.

Liz:

Yeah, it's fine.

Diana:

Is it?

Liz:

Sure.

Diana:

Well, they're trying to figure out where to put him. And then after they get phone Bobby, Sam's like, oh, well, let's, you know, we talk, we got the, the Starks to talk to each other and that helped their relationship. Maybe we should talk. And Dean's like, nope, it's a bunch of crap.

Liz:

Let's talk about our feelings and Dean's still nope.

Diana:

No, and Sam tells him though that this stuff is something's eating him up. Sam knows that something is eating Dean up, which is true. And we all know it's not just all of Sam's knowledge, Dean's feelings. We know his feelings are ed up and broken. It's actually ing Amy shit. And we know this.

Liz:

Well, and this is like at this point, this is where it's becoming like, it was already bad, but now you've been gaslighting

Diana:

It's getting

Liz:

Sam

Diana:

worse.

Liz:

for a long time because you have this

Diana:

We've

Liz:

part

Diana:

been keeping

Liz:

of your

Diana:

this.

Liz:

relationship where they keep saying, I know something's wrong. I know something's wrong. And they're like, no, that's in your head. That's in your head. Everything is fine. And that's worse to me almost. Right.

Diana:

Yeah, I like it. Well, that's it. That's our episode.

Liz:

Yep, he just drives it like he like angry drives off to right? He's like, we're

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

good. We're good. And like, you know, that which is the male equivalent of it's fine.

Diana:

It's fine.

Liz:

Are you

Diana:

It's

Liz:

okay?

Diana:

fine.

Liz:

It's fine.

Diana:

It's fine.

Liz:

It's fine.

Diana:

Oh

Liz:

So, do we have a casting count for the remainder of our goodies?

Diana:

Of course we do. I have to for these, right?

Liz:

Yeah.

Diana:

I mean, they deserve it. So we have obviously first and foremost are Don Stark. And that is played by James Marsters, as we've referenced repeatedly. And that is Spike from Buffy, the vampire slayer, Angel, which we've referenced repeatedly.

Liz:

I'm sorry.

Diana:

But also it is he's also been in shows like or the movie PSI Love You. He was John. He was in multiple episodes of Without a Trace. He is Lord Piccolo in the Dragon Ball Evolution film.

Liz:

Yeah,

Diana:

And he does

Liz:

that

Diana:

a lot

Liz:

was

Diana:

of

Liz:

something

Diana:

voice,

Liz:

that...

Diana:

and he does a lot of voice work in the Dragon Ball movies.

Liz:

There was something that got brought

Diana:

Or shows.

Liz:

up in like the notes for this on the Wiki that when he like does like one of his spell things, and it's like very much like one of his Dragon Ball Z things.

Diana:

weird.

Liz:

And they really wanted to point that out. Then there was this like, he loves that character and I'm like, okay, I did not know that was a thing, except that's a, that's a world I'm not familiar with.

Diana:

He was an over. Yeah, he was also an over. He did voice work. He did. So the Dragon Ball Evolution film is live action. And then he's done a bunch of voice work on the TV and video games. He was over a dozen episodes of Smallville. And then there's the newer runaways series. He was a regular character named Victor as Victor Stein and Jonah.

Liz:

He was he was really good as a dress. I didn't run away. It was good.

Diana:

I didn't watch any too.

Liz:

You should watch that too. I very much angel.

Diana:

And then we've got Maggie Stark was played by Chris Macarpanter, as we've discussed, was Cordelia Chase in Buffy and Angel. She was also in a few episodes of Charmed. She was Kendall Casablanca's in the Veronica Mars series, Lacey in the film's Expendables and Expendables 2. And then, you know, see her in a couple of episodes or, you know, sometimes. recurring but not always but like Lucifer, Criminal Minds, 9-1-1, and the new Dynasty series.

Liz:

I really

Diana:

Newer.

Liz:

like, I feel like Dynasty series is like such a good like for her energy seems like such a great role

Diana:

Superfit.

Liz:

for her.

Diana:

Yeah.

Liz:

Yeah.

Diana:

Sue, our friend was played by Meredith McGeechi. She's been in episodes of Andromeda, the L Word. She was in the film Horns with Daniel Radcliffe, and then a lot of Christmas and Hallmark movies. Then Jenny, our cupcake baker, was played by by. Uh, Lindy, uh, Lindy bushy and that's, I wrote her name wrong. I know that I'm going to have it wrong. I know my hand was going numb.

Liz:

I was like my hand got very tired but

Diana:

It

Liz:

she was ing

Diana:

did.

Liz:

great and I love the fact

Diana:

She's

Liz:

that she's

Diana:

done

Liz:

a

Diana:

like.

Liz:

Lindy.

Diana:

I'll

Liz:

Lindy, she looks like a Lindy.

Diana:

hold on. I'm going to double check my notes, make sure I'm right. But she is in an absurd amount of not absurd, a phenomenally large amount. Let's say that of Hallmark movies,

Liz:

She

Diana:

both Christmas

Liz:

also,

Diana:

and otherwise.

Liz:

just look at her. She looks like she should be in them.

Diana:

Absolutely. No, no, not a not a knock at all.

Liz:

No

Diana:

Just

Liz:

shade

Diana:

a

Liz:

on

Diana:

comment.

Liz:

that.

Diana:

No, it's just an observation and a fact.

Liz:

Like I said with charisma, like her

Diana:

Oh,

Liz:

energy

Diana:

my goodness.

Liz:

feels like if...

Diana:

Cindy Busby. Good Lord. Cindy Busby. That's her name. And

Liz:

Wow,

Diana:

then

Liz:

okay, that's very different

Diana:

I know

Liz:

than this.

Diana:

I'm sorry. My my pencil broke and it was a thing. So she was also in one episode of Vampire Diaries.

Liz:

Hooray!

Diana:

So we got another vampire show tie in, which I think is pretty epic for

Liz:

At

Diana:

this.

Liz:

least I didn't throw that one in there. Like I could have

Diana:

Oh

Liz:

made

Diana:

my God,

Liz:

it like,

Diana:

that

Liz:

oh my God.

Diana:

would have been very

Liz:

Maybe,

Diana:

stressful.

Liz:

we've got like seven more seasons which are gonna show up at some point.

Diana:

I'm sure. Yeah, no, it was a super. You were right. It was a super duper fun

Liz:

That's it.

Diana:

episode. That's

Liz:

That

Diana:

it.

Liz:

was it.

Diana:

That's what I got this week.

Liz:

Yeah. She was great, though. I was like, I really want to like, I just think she was a wonderful actress in this. And it was I think the ensemble, they just overall was just like it was a great. The cast was fantastic. Like it was just

Diana:

I agree.

Liz:

a very well acted, very well written, highly

Diana:

Yes.

Liz:

enjoyable. You got to tug on my emotional heartstrings by bringing back actors that I'm obviously very tied to.

Diana:

Yeah, no, I like it. I like it. I agree. It was super fun. It was a combination of, you know, being the familiar actors, but they weren't like so they effectively were are good actors so that you didn't you weren't seeing their other characters, but you just liked them. And that's a nice feeling.

Liz:

I also think that it helps that James Marsters is American. So whenever he drops the English accent, like the terrible, it's like somebody didn't spike, that's easier to do. But I think just Charisma Carpenter is also just like a good enough actress that she was like, so, but it was, their chemistry was great together. I loved

Diana:

Oh, for

Liz:

that,

Diana:

sure.

Liz:

yeah.

Diana:

I'm just getting like, like you said, like super annoyed with Dean about the gas lady shit. I don't like it.

Liz:

Dean's a dick. He's still a dick. He's douchebag meter. It was over.

Diana:

AuthorChart.

Liz:

I mean, Satan, but also like Sam seems fine. I don't trust that. Because you know, you

Diana:

That's

Liz:

can't,

Diana:

true.

Liz:

like you can't really go from I am hallucinating Satan to I'm drinking a kale smoothie and running a 5k every day and everything is great.

Diana:

Oh, can't you? I'm just kidding.

Liz:

I mean you can but typically that's not going to end well.

Diana:

reasonable.

Liz:

You're drinking kale smoothies and running 5Ks every day. It never

Diana:

That sounds gross.

Liz:

ends well.

Diana:

I like kale and I like smoothies and I don't want a kale smoothie.

Liz:

No, I really like kale smoothies. I don't ever want to make, like, I've realized I don't have energy to, like, make, like, things in a blender. It's because, yeah, especially like kale, like you might do seven, then you're gonna, like, put it in there, and then you have to clean the blender, and that's, like, the worst part. Like if I could just throw things in a blender and then just have like the mess

Diana:

Like they do

Liz:

afterwards.

Diana:

on the TV where you're just like the whole strawberry or like the whole apple. Nobody does any cutting or prepping. Just

Liz:

And

Diana:

throw it in. That's not

Liz:

then

Diana:

how it works.

Liz:

like my robot maid, like Rosie just comes in, she's like, like separates things into the compost pile and like, and washes the blade of the blender, which is the most ridiculous thing to clean ever. Cause you can't clean it without like cutting yourself or like just, it's just, all right. That's enough about blade blenders. And so, uh, next time on our Amazon show, we sponsor bright ninja. Oh wait, let's

Diana:

Liz:

look

Diana:

wish.

Liz:

this. Okay. Uh, so it, uh, so anything else on this episode?

Diana:

Oh, that's all I got.

Liz:

All right. I think we're going to close it out in say, cheers Diana.

Diana:

Cheers, Liz. Woohoo!

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