The ability for ourselves to grow as leaders takes a lot of persistence, commitment, and understanding a little about our own selves in order to create opportunities for self-reflection and development of our own communication and influence. Even though these aspects are important, we must find ways in our own ways to create relationships, confidence, and determination in the ways we lead others. Leadership consultant and author of positive thinking and personal/professional growth Dr. Hector Ortiz shares his unique perspectives not only on how what he shares with others about this subject, but how he has been able to create these important aspects in his own life. Being able to be a role model is only one piece of the overall sphere of influence we carry, let alone vision for our organization (both personally and professionally). We are able to grow if we are able to examine who we surround ourselves with, and nurture our own well-being.
Guest Bio
Dr. Hector Ortiz is the Program Manager for Diversity and Inclusion at Penn State Health System. Previously, Dr. Ortiz served as Senior Director of Community Engagement and Partnerships, Office of Advancement and Strategic Initiatives at Central Penn College. From 2015 to 2020, he served at Central Penn College as an Assistant Professor and Director of Graduate Studies. Hector is a Leadership Harrisburg Area graduate, class of 2005. He holds a bachelor’s degree in civil engineering, a master’s degree in diplomacy, and a doctorate degree in international relations and has obtained the Highest Toastmaster Educational Award, the Distinguished Toastmaster (DTM) recognition in 2018. He has written two books: The Creative Energy of Positive Thinking, and Six Assets To Grow Personally and Advance Professionally.
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Intro/Outro By: Michael Dugan, Podcast Host: Voice4Chefs
Welcome to the podcast where relationships, confidence, and
Intro:determination, all converge into an amazing, heartfelt experience.
Intro:This is Speaking From The Heart.
Joshua:Welcome back to episode number 76 of Speaking from the Heart.
Joshua:Today we're going to be interviewing Dr.
Joshua:Hector Ortiz, who is a fellow Toastmaster and I have known
Joshua:personally for many years.
Joshua:He is the Program Manager for Diversity and Inclusion at Penn State Health
Joshua:System, and previously, he served as the Senior Director of Community
Joshua:Engagement and Partnerships through the Office of Advancement and Strategic
Joshua:Initiatives at Central Penn College, located in Enola, Pennsylvania.
Joshua:From 2015 to 2020, he also served as an assistant professor and director
Joshua:of graduate studies at the college, and he is a Leadership Harrisburg
Joshua:area graduate, graduating in 2005.
Joshua:He holds a bachelor's degree in civil engineering, a master's degree in
Joshua:diplomacy, and a doctorate degree in international relations, which you
Joshua:will hear quite clearly a international perspective that we talk about, especially
Joshua:with the topic at hand, which is mostly focused on leadership in this episode.
Joshua:Hector has also obtained the highest Toastmaster's educational
Joshua:award, Distinguished Toastmaster, and he received that in 2018.
Joshua:He's currently the author of two books, the Creative Energy of Positive Thinking
Joshua:and Six Assets to Grow Personally and Advance Professionally, which
Joshua:we also talk about in this episode.
Joshua:What I really found interesting to really kick off this new year for us,
Joshua:and especially learning a lot more about.
Joshua:What we can do in the realm of leadership and communication, is that we can learn
Joshua:so much from just influences, not only from around us, but also who do we hang
Joshua:out the most that gives us those thoughts and perceptions, which really helps us
Joshua:to understand not only the ways in which we can approach different subjects,
Joshua:especially in the new year, but also how we can change our opportunity to
Joshua:be happy and be able to be successful while making achievements overall.
Joshua:I think that this might be the wake up call that we might need to help
Joshua:us to start with our goal planning, and especially making ourselves
Joshua:more accountable for what we can do within our own leadership realm.
Joshua:But with that, let's go the episode.
Joshua:All right, we're here with Dr.
Joshua:Hector Ortiz.
Joshua:Hector, thanks for sharing your heart with us today.
Hector:Thank you for the invitation.
Hector:It is really a pleasure to be here and had the opportunity to share
Hector:some thoughts and some stories and some intentions and commitments as an
Hector:individual, as a professional with an aviance that I am sure is willing to
Hector:learn, is willing to share, is willing to know how many people can be able
Hector:to support, to help, to inspire, and I hope after this podcast, we can be able
Hector:to promote the opportunity that people think in a different way, hopefully
Hector:in a proactive way to live a beautiful life that I am living at this moment.
Joshua:I have to tell you.
Joshua:That is the most awesome opening to when I say, "Thanks for sharing your heart with
Joshua:us today" that I've had yet, so thanks for that because really, that's my goal,
Joshua:Hector, every time that I have somebody on the show is to be able to do just that,
Joshua:so thank you for that great insight to help our audience kind of dive into it,
Joshua:and I want to also say, full disclosure, because I already introduced you to the
Joshua:audience that I've known you for a number of years now because of Toastmasters, and
Joshua:for those that are interested in checking out Toastmasters International, my
Joshua:listeners have known this very well now.
Joshua:You can go to the episode notes, click on the Toastmasters international link
Joshua:and can go and visit a local club closest to you, whether that's in person or
Joshua:online, and learn more about how you can network with others, but Hector,
Joshua:I've done enough of a shameless plug.
Joshua:What I want to do is really talk a lot about some of the things that
Joshua:you have accomplished in your life, because first off, I introduced you
Joshua:as Doctor Hector Ortiz, and I think that it's always amazing to see
Joshua:people move through their educational journey to get to where they are at.
Joshua:I have been a shameless plug myself of having two master's degrees, so my
Joshua:first question to you is, how did you get to ultimately earn your doctorate?
Joshua:Why did you have this pursuit of thinking of education being
Joshua:truly important for yourself?
Hector:Thank you for the question, and I really, truly believe that
Hector:education is one of the ways that every single individual, any person in the
Hector:world, can be able to create social mobility, can be able to achieve goals
Hector:and intentions, objectives, and can be able to move in any direction that
Hector:that individual wants to do in life.
Hector:I really believe that education is that equalizer, that independently how you
Hector:start, whatever neighborhood, whatever family you come from, that education allow
Hector:any person, any individual, to exercise deliveries, the intentions, and to pursue
Hector:whatever they want to pursue in life.
Hector:I am thankful, grateful.
Hector:I had a father that liked to read and when I saw that intention to
Hector:promote education to ensure that their childrens become educated.
Hector:It's something that you don't have to convince me two times.
Hector:I really knew from the beginning that education was the key and so happy,
Hector:so thankful for the opportunity to get educated at the higher level:
Hector:to go to the elementary school, to go to high school, to enter to
Hector:college, graduate from college, get a master degree, and then a PhD.
Hector:I did all at once because I really believe in the power of education.
Joshua:With that, because you have done so much different education, I
Joshua:know that you have taught for a number of years in Central Penn College,
Joshua:which for my listeners, Central Penn is in Enola, Pennsylvania,
Joshua:which is close to the state capitol.
Joshua:Do you have that sense that you wanted your students to also
Joshua:have that same passion as you did when it came to learning,?
Joshua:And if so, How did you go about showing that to your students?
Joshua:Was there some sort of way?
Joshua:A methodology?
Joshua:What were your tactics to help them get inspired?
Hector:Let me tell you that Toastmasters play an important, I will say a
Hector:fundamental role, in that opportunity that I have to teach at Central Penn College.
Hector:I taught for at least six years, I was the director of programs at the
Hector:master degree level, and organizational leadership, basically the two elements
Hector:that Toastmasters highlights so very well, communication and leadership,
Hector:and I was teaching these two subject matters at the master degree level.
Hector:When I have the opportunity to talk with people who has already degrees because
Hector:they have bachelor's degree in order to pursue the master's degree, I have
Hector:to talk to them about leadership, and what's amazing was a journey to have
Hector:the opportunity to see middle management leaders already who were in the journey
Hector:to learn about leadership, to practice leadership; to utilize not just what the
Hector:textbook says, not just what the best practices, the experiential learning
Hector:says, but also the opportunity to digest and had conversation with these leaders
Hector:on how they want to be better leaders.
Hector:It's not just the style that they may have.
Hector:It's not just the approach that they can have.
Hector:It's the opportunity to digest when, how, what and who is going to be using that
Hector:particular approach on leadership, which is extremely connected with communication.
Hector:In my first classes with any students, I usually say there is two elements
Hector:that you need to create leadership.
Hector:One is communication.
Hector:Without communication, there is no leadership to be able to communicate.
Hector:The second way is influence, and without influence, you are not a leader.
Hector:If you are not able to convince, to persuade anyone,
Hector:then you are not a leader.
Hector:You have to have followers.
Hector:You have to have a group of people who able to move with you in any
Hector:particular direction, but integrity is what, in my view, create leadership.
Hector:The style is something else, but the foundation, the pillars of leadership,
Hector:start with communication, continues with influence, and is able to create
Hector:whatever leadership style you have you would like to get from life.
Joshua:I love that because, you and I have had these sort of conversations
Joshua:over coffee, about how it different leaderships can have different ways
Joshua:in which we produce results, and I've always been excited, especially
Joshua:as a student myself, to learn about those sort of topics because I
Joshua:think that one sort of leadership style, and doing that continuously,
Joshua:does not necessarily mean that you yield the same results every time.
Joshua:You might have to change, you have to warp, you have to have,
Joshua:like you said, these two elements: communication and influence.
Joshua:Speaking of which, I think this is a great time to talk about the two books that
Joshua:you have written as it relates to that.
Joshua:I'm holding both of them, for my listeners, because I've been really
Joshua:a fan of reading and learning about different perspectives and Dr.
Joshua:Ortiz definitely has a lot of those when it comes to this subject.
Joshua:Hector, you talk about in your first book, The Creative Energy of Positive Thinking:
Joshua:A Basic Approach To The Genuine Concept Of Happiness, and then just recently, you
Joshua:have written Six Assets To Grow Personally and Advance Professionally: A Practical
Joshua:Approach To Reach Lifelong Fulfillment.
Joshua:With both of these, and I know that this is probably a very loaded question,
Joshua:which I hope that maybe you can condense for us, why write these two books?
Joshua:Why do you feel that leadership, especially with thinking about and
Joshua:learning about the ways in which we can do it, which is kind of the theme in both
Joshua:of those books, why do you feel that is really important, because I could easily
Joshua:say, "This is the way I always do it.
Joshua:That's why it always works", but obviously, you disagree with
Joshua:that premise because of some of the things that you've written.
Joshua:Do you mind talking about both of them and kind of wrapping those together for us?
Hector:Absolutely, and let me start with The Creative Energy Of Positive Thinking.
Hector:I was with a good friend of mine; Mr.
Hector:Grant Hetrick, who is the coroner of Dauphin County, and a good
Hector:friend of mine, and one day he told me, "Why don't write a book?
Hector:Just start writing.
Hector:You had very good thoughts", and one of the reasons that I were convinced
Hector:to write my first book, The Creative Energy of Positive Thinking, is when
Hector:I saw so much negativism in people.
Hector:Now, I am not trying to excuse that many of us face very difficult times in Earth,
Hector:and many of us may not have the resources that other have, and it's going to be
Hector:difficult for each one, however, the point of The Creative Energy Of Positive
Hector:Thinking is that all depends with the way that you see things, and in my view,
Hector:if the way that you see things is going to be giving you the perspective to see
Hector:opportunities to move forward, to resolve whatever issues you may face, or if you
Hector:see the other ways, you are going to be seeing just struggles, challenges, and
Hector:how difficult life is, and you don't have everything that you need to resolve
Hector:those issues, so all is the perspective that the individual bring, and my point
Hector:is that should be always an opportunity to see anything from a optimistic
Hector:perspective, and if you just take that chance, to see things from a proactive
Hector:perspective, you're going to be able to see that life is not easy, not difficult,
Hector:that life is not unfair, that life is what you decide to be, what you decide
Hector:to become, what you decide to pursue, because at the end, it's just you, the
Hector:only person who determined how much, how far, how fast you want to go in life, and
Hector:again, one of the things that you can get from that book that I got myself and I
Hector:emphasized the importance of this is, to create a mission, a statement of life;
Hector:a personal mission, a statement of life.
Hector:If you don't know where you are going, if you don't know what you are doing in
Hector:life, then it's going to be difficult to have the opportunity to create happiness.
Hector:It's going to be difficult to have the opportunity to see optimistic points of
Hector:view, so I recommend, I emphasize the importance to start any human being with
Hector:analyzing where you are, and where you would like to be, what you are doing now,
Hector:what you would like to be in whatever time you have the opportunity to lead.
Hector:In other words, a mission, a statement of life, which is for
Hector:any organization is a mandate.
Hector:There is no organization that is successful if they don't
Hector:have a mission statement.
Hector:I am asking the same para logic with the people that you should have a
Hector:mission statement of life, and I was able to develop my and revise on annual
Hector:basis after writing this book, The Creative Energy Of Positive Thinking.
Joshua:Before you move to the second book, that is something that I think is
Joshua:truly important is, like you said, having that mission statement for ourselves
Joshua:so that we know where that direction leads, and I love this book in itself
Joshua:because it walks through not only how you can start to develop that for your
Joshua:own, but starts to challenge some of that thought process as well that you
Joshua:might have already existing, and I think it's really about deconstructing
Joshua:a little bit, and maybe as a question to that, Hector, is there something
Joshua:that maybe you talk about in the book or even maybe you recommend to people,
Joshua:because I know you do consulting as well.
Joshua:Is there something that you recommend to individuals, or even businesses for
Joshua:that matter, to help dispel that breaking of that thought pattern that might be
Joshua:toxic or might be negative in nature?
Joshua:Is there a first step that you would recommend, because as a coach myself, I
Joshua:feel like I do that quite a lot with my clients and that means trying to say,
Joshua:"This message that you've been telling of yourself might not be the message
Joshua:that you should be sharing with others or even with your significant other.
Joshua:It's about really working on a different viewpoint", so is there something that
Joshua:you recommend to people that helps them to get started with that process?
Hector:Well, one of the things that you can see in the book
Hector:is there is a lot of research.
Hector:There is a lot of other people who have wrote about this particular
Hector:topic of positive thinking and the influence that positive thinking
Hector:can create in the minds of people.
Hector:Therefore, there is many other resources that people can go and read.
Hector:Carnegie is one; How To Make (Win) Friends and enjoy life, right?
Hector:It's one of the sources that I have read many times; the Carnegie Books.
Hector:The tremendous John books that is a local author that has
Hector:been, again, changing lives.
Hector:I do many other sources that can be utilized, and many other self-help books
Hector:that are available, that people can consider to learn to utilize what many
Hector:others has written about it, but if you ask me one thing that you need that anyone
Hector:should utilize is to believe in yourself.
Hector:Start with that.
Hector:Start with believing in yourself, and many people not are able to do.
Hector:Many people are not just afraid to make mistakes, are afraid to move
Hector:forward, believe me or not, and I mentioned this in the book, many people
Hector:are afraid even to be successful.
Hector:She said how people can be afraid of being successful, well they have not
Hector:seen people around being successful, so they don't even believe that
Hector:success may exist, because that's the resources, the neighborhood,
Hector:what they see, and unfortunately, people tend to reflect on what they
Hector:see, if they're around good people.
Hector:There is a saying that the five people that become your best friends or the
Hector:people you hang around all the time, you become the operas of those five people
Hector:that you are around, and that's true in many ways, and I challenge all of the
Hector:listeners today to analyze who are the five people that you go around regularly
Hector:on periodic basis, that you get lunch, that do breakfast, that you talk, and
Hector:you may be the overanalyzing everything: income, spirituality, emotional, many
Hector:ways that you can, analyze, measure success, and we are part of that, so
Hector:basically, the people that you are around tell you to reflect what you would like
Hector:to do and with education, with learning, by reading, but try to get something
Hector:else, you can get out of that, a status quo of that overage and move forward.
Hector:That's what social mobility is all about.
Joshua:That is some really good advice, and I think especially just having those
Joshua:five people, I was literally thinking in my mind right now: "Who are the five
Joshua:closest people that I associate with?", and it reminds me so much that I did
Joshua:that exercise a few years ago when I initially paged through your book,
Joshua:and I haven't done that in a while.
Joshua:It makes me rethink that I should do that again, and I think it's
Joshua:always good to revisit it, because like you even said earlier, that
Joshua:influence that communication, those things change quite often.
Joshua:Now I want to move to the second book, the Six Assets To Grow
Joshua:Personally And Advance Professionally.
Joshua:How did this book come out of the woodwork, if you will, of your experiences
Joshua:or your associations, because I would've said, "Man, one book, having the Creative
Joshua:Energy Of Positive Thinking, that enough, in itself, could say so much", so I
Joshua:guess my question is, why a second book, and what is it that it does for people
Joshua:that if they want to pick up that, why would they want to read that, Hector?
Hector:Thank you again for the question and let me share with the audience
Hector:that, in many occasions, many people had approached me and has shared how
Hector:this book has changed his or her life, and just having one person, one person
Hector:come to me and say, "This book helped me to change my life or help me where I
Hector:am now.", I think the book fulfilled an intention, but many people: coworkers,
Hector:social workers, students, and people who have shared with me, even a coworker that
Hector:I have now said, "My son read this book, and do you know how much he loves, and
Hector:how much he enjoy, and he was even going to commit suicide", and when saw this
Hector:perspective, the different analogies, the different stories of the book, try
Hector:to connect with the top principle, create that opportunity that people see life from
Hector:different perspectives, so that itself helped me to evaluate that maybe something
Hector:else can be done, and that's what the second book that was just published
Hector:this year can, after those intentions to develop, not just the proactive
Hector:approach, not just the positive thinking approach, but how we can develop the
Hector:individual itself take six assets to grow personally and achieve professionally,
Hector:emphasize the need to grow and to develop yourself as an imperative to fulfill
Hector:personal and professional aspirations.
Hector:It help also that individuals, people, or individual professionals,
Hector:can also have the opportunity to read three elements that are so
important in life:peace, success and happiness and success and happiness
important in life:and peace can be seen from different perspectives; depends where you are.
important in life:Depend how much because success for an individual who is poor, who
important in life:may not have education is just to have a job, and that person had a
important in life:sustainable job, may be success.
important in life:For people who have sustainable jobs and may have education success may be
important in life:seen differently and analyze different angles, different ways that people see
important in life:success, that people see happiness, that see people see peace, and in that
important in life:way, you develop the individual, try to understand what are the ways, what are
important in life:the alternatives to develop individual, to create not just a positive thinking
important in life:approach, but how much the feelings involve the decision that people make.
important in life:How much is important to enhance the state of self-awareness, awareness, decision
important in life:making, and analyze as an individual and as a professional, the different
important in life:decisions that we make on daily basis, not just as an individuals, not just as a
important in life:professional, but as a holistic approach of the individual and try to analyze
important in life:the different perspectives that people bring, so in that way, you analyze the
important in life:six assets, the six chapters, that we present to the individuals and to the
important in life:professionals on how to better understand life from these two perspectives.
Joshua:It's good to have a formula or a roadmap, if you will, to more clearly put
Joshua:it, and to help us to move from that point where we are to another, which is always a
Joshua:important subject in itself to help us not only stay on track, but I feel that when
Joshua:we have those conversations, we can be more intentional, more rationalized with,
Joshua:"Okay, this is the pillar that I'm in.
Joshua:What is it that I can do to continue to grow in that while I'm working on these
Joshua:other pillars, maybe concurrently, maybe the next step", whatever that pace is
Joshua:for people, because especially with some guests that I've had on this show, Hector,
Joshua:I definitely have learned a lot about the fact that we all have different ways.
Joshua:We have different brain styles in which we develop that too, and I think
Joshua:that this leads into my next question, now moving past the books, which I
Joshua:encourage my listeners to pick up.
Joshua:I'll put a link in the episode notes if you are interested in purchasing them.
Joshua:They are available online and I'm really interested in the fact that you have moved
Joshua:on into the Penn State Health System.
Joshua:You became a Program Manager For Diversity and Inclusion.
Joshua:Why the pivot?
Joshua:Why move to now thinking about these conversations of DEI:
Joshua:diversity, equity, inclusion?
Joshua:Is it in the same vein of what you've written about and which
Joshua:you're helping people to understand what those differences are?
Joshua:What do you say is your mission with serving in such a role like this,
Joshua:because truthfully, you could have stayed in education and continue to
Joshua:inspire a whole generation of students thinking about these topics and
Joshua:talking about them, but why the change?
Joshua:I'm curious.
Hector:Thank you for the question again.
Hector:That's a fair question, and diversity, equity, inclusion play a
Hector:fundamental role in decision making.
Hector:Cultural differences is a huge, huge animal that many people tend to believe
Hector:that they know, they understand, and they are fine because they just
Hector:understand differences, but from my years of experience in even just
Hector:understanding one of the elements of the multiple hundreds of differences that
Hector:we share as a human beings, income, for instance, not just economic, not just
Hector:socioeconomics, not just the opportunity to generate wealth, but income.
Hector:In America, it's very disproportionate, and I am even seeing now the discussion
Hector:about slavery and how many benefits this benefits, in quotation marks,
Hector:create a slavery, and I was just afraid to even start a discussion
Hector:like that when we know that.
Hector:Politically.
Hector:Slavery was defending the south and was against in the north, and that was
Hector:created the Civil War many years ago, but the main point is that diversity,
Hector:equity, inclusion is something that we're involved all the time.
The question is:are you prepared?
The question is:Are you ready to accept differences, and many people are not.
The question is:Many people tend to believe that my culture is better than others; that my
The question is:religion is better than others, that my approach about gender, ethnicity,
The question is:national origin is better than others, and the point is that at the
The question is:end, any culture is not even worse or is not better than anyone else.
The question is:We are just different and we don't have any right to make another person
The question is:to believe just in me because I think my culture is better than others.
The question is:I don't have any right to make another person to change the culture, because it's
The question is:something that you belong to, that you come from, and in spite of you, and if you
The question is:want to demonstrate the authenticity that any single human being have, we are not
The question is:open and able to showcase, to demonstrate, to create a war when diversity, equity,
The question is:inclusion can leave, can transpire, can be exercised, by any single individual.
The question is:When we are able to allow people to do the true selves, to be able to come to a
The question is:particular session meeting environment, and share their ways of thinking,
The question is:their ways of doing the tradition, customs, and ways of acting based on
The question is:their experiences, then we are going to be able to allow any human being to
The question is:present, and even be better, because diversity at the end from the business
The question is:perspective, create productivity, enhance opportunity to create teamwork,
The question is:and allow more involvement and engagement when we are truly focused
The question is:in the vagueness of diversity in guests, try to fight who think like
The question is:me, or who doesn't think like me.
The question is:In leadership, there is a thought that said the leader is not a
The question is:person who knows everything.
The question is:The leader is the person who knows a little bit about leadership, who knows
The question is:a little bit about how to be successful, but is able to put together a team
The question is:of people when you have the talent of those areas that you are not aware,
The question is:that you are not very good, and then you realize in people, "I don't know, Josh."
The question is:Any leader in the world that can say, "I did by myself."
The question is:We need a group of people who need a team, and that's what leadership,
The question is:communication, influence, because you are able to communicate the vision and you
The question is:are able to influence the why, then you are going to be able to have people who
The question is:can follow to that particular mission of intention, goal, or objective, but you
The question is:need to have a team, and the team has to be very diverse in thinking, in action,
The question is:in aspiration, in intentions, and that's the role of the leader: to put together
The question is:everyone in the right seat so the path to succeed in life can be achieved and can be
The question is:generated, but that vision that the leader brings, but that team members that allow
The question is:the vision of the leader to be successful.
The question is:John Maxwell says the leader is more worried about the vision than the people.
The question is:The people are not worried about the vision, but the leader, so the group
The question is:of people select first the leader.
The question is:The leader selects first the vision, not the people, so that's what you had when
The question is:you had a vision and then the people will come and generate any opportunities to
The question is:generate change and hopefully aspirations and satisfactions in the future.
Joshua:Wow.
Joshua:Those are some pretty profound statements, and I think that you
Joshua:reinforce even what some of my other guests have said, and I have to call
Joshua:this out specifically even right now, about the fact that we need that team.
Joshua:I've had people on the show have called that our universal team.
Joshua:I have heard it called our sphere of influence.
Joshua:I've heard it called the group in which helps us to get to where we need to go,
Joshua:but you make a very convincing statement and argument here about why it's so
Joshua:important as well to have that in a leadership context, especially with the
Joshua:work that you do, because it helps us to now see that global picture as opposed to
Joshua:that individualistic picture, and I think that is so important to see those world
Joshua:diverse views, and I love the way you hear it because sometimes I feel like we put
Joshua:it into another category or we dump it into something else that we're trying to
Joshua:make this point, and then it comes back to being individualistic, but I love the way
Joshua:you just explained that, because I think it opens up this whole other conversation
Joshua:in itself that I know that we won't have time to do in this episode, maybe we'll
Joshua:bring you back and talk about some more, but I love the fact that you called that
Joshua:out for what it is, and I appreciate that.
Joshua:Hector, as we get closer to the end of the time, I want to ask you this one
Joshua:final question because it really has been something of intrigue for me personally,
Joshua:and I think that for my listeners, it might help to shine a little bit about
Joshua:who you are and why you do what you do.
Joshua:I know that you've been involved with Rotary.
Joshua:I know that you've been involved in Toastmasters; that's how I met you, and
Joshua:we have developed a strong friendship over these years in which I've been able
Joshua:to not only have you worked for me, but I have worked for you as well alongside
Joshua:doing all kinds of different things.
Joshua:Do you feel that your way of giving to other people is to help them see these
Joshua:ideas of positive thinking and leadership?
Joshua:Do you feel that you see each person as being this big melting pot of opportunity,
Joshua:because I feel like that's your worldview.
Joshua:That's, to me, what I think, but please, educate me on this and my listeners,
Joshua:because I think this passion just rings through with even with some of our
Joshua:conversation that we've had today, and I think it will help us to understand that
Joshua:motivation that you have inside yourself.
Hector:Thank you for the question and thank you for those kind words
Hector:again, kind words that help to move forward to keep doing what we are
Hector:doing in the book and again, in life.
Hector:I'll always think that in summary, whatever type of light any individual
Hector:wants to leave, if we are able to summarize, in my personal view and
Hector:I respect any other views, there is three lives that people can live.
Hector:You can live a life of pleasure or happiness.
Hector:You can live a life of success or achievement, or you can live a life
Hector:that, again, is so important and is so much needed, which is a life of meaning.
Hector:In other words, you can have multiple opportunities to create the life that
Hector:you would like to get, but in summary, when you put people together, even
Hector:in one way or another, people want to live a life of pleasure, a life
Hector:of success, or a life of meaning.
Hector:Let me start with the last one because of your question.
Hector:Meaning is something higher than yourself, and that can be seen from
Hector:the spiritual viewpoint, from the brain rationality viewpoint, from the
Hector:emotional viewpoint, for the physical viewpoint; all depends what you would
Hector:like to start analyzing the meaning.
Hector:In my view, meaning is when you are able to do something not
Hector:just for yourself but for others, that's what Rotary contemplates.
Hector:That's what community service contemplates.
Hector:That's what servant leaders contemplate.
Hector:The opportunity to share the privileges that we have, because I feel privileged;
Hector:my education give me privilege.
Hector:The position that I have teaching give me privilege.
Hector:The position to serve the community give me privilege.
Hector:Those privileges, if they are using, not just to advance yourself, your
Hector:family, the people around you, but to advance others, and let me tell you
Hector:something that I wrote in the first book.
Hector:In my view, the best thing that anyone can do for someone else, is
Hector:not just give physical resources.
Hector:Of course, many people need those, and it's fine to give when they need that,
Hector:but the best way that any individual can help someone else is to be able to
Hector:discover themselves, the talents, the attributes, the things that people have,
Hector:and you're able to believe in someone else, if you're able to discover the
Hector:talents and the attributes that people have, you are able to help themselves.
Hector:That's the key point, Josh.
Hector:When people are able to help others to help themselves, to believe in
Hector:themselves, to see things from proactive perspective, that creates meaning.
Hector:That creates meaning to life, that can create meaning to the profession, that
Hector:can create meaning to the individual.
Hector:That's what meaning is all about and that's just one of type of life that
Hector:people can live, and if you combine that one with success, that, again, I mentioned
Hector:to you, can be different, because depends of the individual is in the eye of the
Hector:beholder what success is all about, and in that way, success can be achieved.
Hector:Then in that way, if you have success and you have meaning, pleasure will come
Hector:by default, so just depends what angle you see, what life you prefer, but you
Hector:are able to live these three types of life combining and achieving then I live
what I think I live a life:of pleasure, a life of success, a life of meaning.
what I think I live a life:I am so grateful for the life that I have.
Joshua:I'm grateful for the life that you have too, because of the influences
Joshua:that you have touched other people, including even myself with, which I
Joshua:think is a perfect segue to wrap up.
Joshua:I know that you do public speaking about this topic.
Joshua:You have done coaching and consulting relating to this.
Joshua:I want to give you the last few minutes, Hector.
Joshua:How can people reach out to you if they are interested in talking more
Joshua:about this with you, because this has been a great conversation and we only
Joshua:scratch the surface today, but what if people want to learn more about this?
Joshua:Is there a way that they can reach out to you?
Joshua:I'm going to give you the last few minutes to go ahead and pitch yourself.
Hector:Thank you.
Hector:Absolutely.
Hector:You can reach me and you can find me in LinkedIn.
Hector:You can find me in Facebook.
Hector:You can find me in my website, www.drhectorortiz.com and
Hector:you can find me in my books.
Hector:I had pages in Facebook, in social media, connected with The Creative
Hector:Energy Of Positive Thinking, and the Six Assets To Succeed Personally
Hector:and Advance Professionally.
Hector:You can reach me again, you are going to be sharing my contact information,
Hector:that I am able to go and talk with people about this to communicate the
Hector:best way that people may have in order to live a better life, but again, at the
Hector:end, is the decision of the individual.
Hector:At the end is the commitment of the individual.
Hector:Nothing is easy in life.
Hector:Nothing is difficult in life.
Hector:You have to pay a price, and we all know that.
Hector:Whatever we are doing, we pay a price, even for doing nothing, we
Hector:are paying a price, the price of spending our time doing nothing, but
Hector:we have to pay in one way or another.
Hector:People tend to believe when we ask to pay is just monetary
Hector:resources, but we pay socially, economically, politically, culturally.
Hector:We pay emotionally, spiritually, rationality.
Hector:We pay in one way or another.
Hector:In that segue, I would like to emphasize anyone who is giving me
Hector:the opportunity to listen today to Josh and myself, to think about life.
Hector:What you would like to get from life.
Hector:What are you doing now in life?
Hector:Where are you?
Hector:Are you happy with where you are, because if you are, then you just have to start
Hector:planning what is going to be next, how you can find meaning, how to can find
Hector:success, or how you can find happiness, but at the end, it's your decision.
Hector:It's your life.
Hector:I am just here sharing good practices that I am living, that I am practicing,
Hector:and I didn't work, and just share those because I have the privilege to
Hector:have an education, a family, and now a commitment to create a life that I don't
Hector:have to wait to retirement to enjoy.
Hector:I enjoy every single second, and I hope all of you who are here today can enjoy
Hector:your life as it comes and every single second, because life is beautiful.
Hector:The world you cannot have the opportunity to see and to observe
Hector:and to contemplate with the life that we have with a number of years.
Hector:Life cannot be measured by the number of years, but the seconds
Hector:that you enjoy each opportunity that life offered to all of us.
Joshua:I think that time is valuable, and that's what you're definitely summarizing,
Joshua:is that we can use our time to help others and even help ourselves to see
Joshua:that light that's within ourselves and what we want to get out of life, and I
Joshua:certainly have gotten a lot out of this conversation as for my listeners too,
Joshua:and with that said, Hector, thanks for being on Speaking From the Heart today.
Joshua:It was a true privilege and honor to get to talk to you about your books,
Joshua:about you, what motivates you, and more importantly, how you are a great
Joshua:leader overall, and with that, I value our friendship as a result of all
Joshua:of those things, so thank you again.
Hector:Thank you.
Joshua:I want to thank Hector again for being part of the show, and he
Joshua:really shared with us some interesting perspectives about the topic of
Joshua:leadership, which he not only brings the international perspective on, but also has
Joshua:studied it for so long that a lot of those different techniques that he has talked
Joshua:about in this episode, I know for a fact he has lived in person, and I think that
Joshua:really generates a lot of the conversation that we can have, not only about
Joshua:ourselves, but also the ways in which we can make progress in the right direction.
Joshua:With those things in mind, we can definitely think about the goals.
Joshua:We can think about ways in which we can have intentionality in our lives.
Joshua:Being able to teach, to be able to learn; those are things that we learn at such
Joshua:a young age to adapt as behaviors that oftentimes are forgotten about when we
Joshua:get into the later parts of our life, until, of course we get some kids that we
Joshua:raise, and then those all come flooding back into our minds as to the level of
Joshua:importance they have, and I think he talked a lot about that, particularly
Joshua:when we made it to the spheres of influence or the elements of leadership
Joshua:more specifically, which he talked about communication and influence, but we don't
Joshua:have to have those same resources that other people have that allow us to go
Joshua:forward in a direction that is really needed to be optimistic, to be creative
Joshua:in the way in which we deliver ourselves.
Joshua:I know that for many of us, we can think about leadership as a way or a tool to
Joshua:help us get to that next point, and I teach a lot of this, even my clients
Joshua:that are going through my business, and they're thinking about ways in which they
Joshua:can take their selves to the next level.
Joshua:I even deal with that at work when it relates to the different types of
Joshua:opportunities that exist when it comes to not only providing that creativity when it
Joshua:comes to leading others, because we often have to think outside of the box, but
Joshua:we also have to have good communication style to be able to do just that.
Joshua:I often think of people like Dale Carnegie, John Maxwell, even some of
Joshua:those notable figures that we talk about today: Warren Buffet, maybe
Joshua:even a Steve Jobs who's no longer with us, who definitely tried to
Joshua:create some of the unique cultures that we have and we can experience,
Joshua:but those are just the juggernauts.
Joshua:Those are just the people that, overall, create some of those things
Joshua:that we have in our lives that we often think can be the role models, but why
Joshua:can't we just believe in ourselves?
Joshua:Why can't we just believe in our success of being able to be a good leader, and I
Joshua:really love the fact that Hector talked about: who are the five people that you
Joshua:go around with on a periodic basis that you surround yourself with, because I had
Joshua:to stop myself, even in this episode, to think about what are some of the things
Joshua:that I could learn from just being able to separate the individuals that I have
Joshua:in my life that create that sort of unique persuasion of sorts to try to be able
Joshua:to take a big step back and say, "Maybe I don't need to go in this direction.
Joshua:I think that the other question that we have to ask ourselves is: how much can
Joshua:we change our thoughts or perceptions in that bigger, greater framework of
Joshua:leadership, because let's face it, we all know that we have different perceptions
Joshua:and attitudes that we go into when it comes to not only the ways in which we
Joshua:lead others, but also the ways in which we communicate, which we gain that influence.
Joshua:Now, I'm not about to go out to give staff, or people that I would supervise,
Joshua:a whole bunch of money to say that, "Yes, you need to be influenced by me,
Joshua:so I'm going to pay you more above what you even get paid now", because then
Joshua:that expectation will always be there.
Joshua:Although money is a nice reward, it doesn't always mean that it provides the
Joshua:right answer, but it also means don't have a pizza party every single Friday, because
Joshua:then somebody knows that maybe something's up after that 15th, 20th, 25th pizza
Joshua:party in a row, but I think what's really important here is to understand what the
Joshua:importance is for our decision making.
Joshua:What can we be surrounded with in our nebulous, or environment that
Joshua:we work in, that help to create some of that awareness for ourselves
Joshua:to be able to learn and grow?
Joshua:Companies can easily turn to a survey that helps to survey the population of an
Joshua:audience, AKA employees, or even bosses for that matter, in ways in which we
Joshua:can promote our own individual growth to help us to understand what are the true
Joshua:possibilities that exist before us, but I think what is really important here
Joshua:is that we need to be our true selves in order to get that best feedback.
Joshua:We need to have our team around us that allows us to understand
Joshua:that change has to occur, but the change, especially even what Dr.
Joshua:Ortiz provided in this episode, is about understanding that positive aspect
Joshua:of it, the pleasure or the happiness that comes with it, the success or the
Joshua:achievement, or even having meaning.
Joshua:I think that for many of us, we forget about that last part, the meaning
Joshua:aspect of it, in which we are able to recognize and engage with other
Joshua:people because we bring context to it, because accepting differences in the
Joshua:ways in which we approach subjects help to embrace our differences inside not
Joshua:just ourselves, that just me mentality, but it opens up a whole new world of
Joshua:understanding our decision making process.
Joshua:Sound familiar?
Joshua:It might be something that we might've missed, especially in United States
Joshua:politics, or go to any country around the world in which you might need to
Joshua:have a better understanding of the opposing viewpoints, which is why the
Joshua:concept of debates go all the way back to Greek Roman times in which those
Joshua:individuals, those that were representing other individuals for that matter,
Joshua:were pontificating, or speaking, about the different ways in which they can
Joshua:provide support for a position that is in mind, but I think that we often
Joshua:forget about the fact that we need to find the best way to help, not only
Joshua:ourselves, but those that are around us.
Joshua:To help us to discover the talents and attributes of those other individuals
Joshua:that we are gifted to be around.
Joshua:I already hear the grumbling now, "Josh.
Joshua:There's no way I'm going to work with Sally today because she's just so grumpy.
Joshua:She is just terrible to work with.
Joshua:How could you ever expect me to have such a positive attitude
Joshua:around somebody like that?"
Joshua:Maybe not relatable?
Joshua:Let's try this scenario instead, "Josh.
Joshua:There is no way that Bob is going to be able to get that deadline done,
Joshua:and as many times as I keep telling him the importance of the deadline,
Joshua:he just does whatever he wants.
Joshua:He doesn't care what I have to say.
Joshua:I have no value in front of him."
Joshua:I think that we have to take a big step back and ask ourselves this question.
Joshua:If we ever face that opportunity of leading others, especially in
Joshua:this new year, we can ask ourselves this question: What do you want
Joshua:to get out of that situation?
Joshua:What is the meaning of being able to ask Sally, "What is going on?", or even
Joshua:asking Bob, "What is going on?", because I think that it's so much more than just
Joshua:a list of papers that detail our mission, our vision, our values, maybe even the
Joshua:goals in which we can learn so much and create that intention in our lives to
Joshua:order to understand how to best move forward, because it isn't just about the
Joshua:fact that we need to be communicators or even influencers for that matter, but
Joshua:it's about understanding not just those five people that are around us, but the
Joshua:people that aren't around us either, because they do leave a mark on us.
Joshua:They do change our thoughts, our perceptions, and even our
Joshua:frameworks are, when it comes to the bigger scheme of things.
Joshua:What is the important awareness or decision making that we should
Joshua:be making, because it isn't just about embracing differences; not
Joshua:just the physical side of it.
Joshua:It's about embracing what we can potentially become, and it means also
Joshua:bring some people alongside of it that might need to hear that message
Joshua:more than once, and recognizing that we all go in different directions.
Joshua:We are now in the year 2024, and I know that for many of us, we might be lost in
Joshua:which ways that we can move forward, but I think that this important interview
Joshua:really considers the fact that we don't need to have all the answers, but what
Joshua:we do need to have is some assets to be personally enabled to think creatively,
Joshua:because I think if we're able to do that, not only are we going to make it
Joshua:to the next step, no matter what that is, no matter if we defined it or not
Joshua:yet, but we're going to be able to push forward, and I think that surrounding
Joshua:yourself with someone, maybe even this coach that's speaking to you right now
Joshua:for that matter, can help you get to the ways that you want to be, especially
Joshua:in the new year, because let's face it, it's never too late to get started.
Joshua:Aren't you going to get started now?
Joshua:Aren't you going to stop talking in the ways in which you think are
Joshua:going to be done, and actually take action on them, because I think
Joshua:you're ready for change, aren't you?
Joshua:I am, and all I need is to hear from you.
Joshua:Thanks for listening to episode number 76 of Speaking From The
Joshua:Heart, and I look forward to hearing from your heart very soon.
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