In this episode, I begin by pausing.

Before diving into today’s conversation with my guest, I wanted to hold space for the emotional weight so many of us are carrying right now. This is the first full week of January 2026, and everywhere I turn — with my clients, in my community, and in my own body — I feel the grief, anger, fear, and exhaustion moving through the collective.

I speak honestly about what it’s been like to witness this moment as a former therapist and as someone stepping more fully onto the priestess path. I share why I am moving away from the medicalized lens of diagnosis — not because suffering isn’t real, but because so much of what people are experiencing is a natural response to living in a world that does not support human life, rest, connection, creativity, or safety.

In this reflection, I explore:

1. Why anxiety, depression, burnout, and numbness are often symptoms of systemic failure — not individual brokenness
2. What it means to hold collective grief and rage without collapsing into hopelessness
3. The priestess role of holding duality: honoring the collapse of old structures while still tending the vision of what comes next
4. Why feeling our feelings fully is not indulgent — it’s essential
5. How rage and grief can be alchemized into clarity, courage, and creative power

I talk about the necessity of fierce love — love that is tender and boundaried, compassionate and unwilling to accept what is dehumanizing. I reflect on the fear that comes with imagining an entirely different way of living, and why change will not come all at once, but through sustained courage, heart, and collective imagination.

This episode is also a reminder of why I created this podcast in the first place: to help seed new blueprints for how we live, love, heal, relate to money, steward technology, and care for the earth and one another. The change we are longing for does not come from outside authority — it comes from within us, and then between us.

Toward the end of the episode, I share about my upcoming eight-week beta course Sacred Desire, and why I believe reclaiming desire, pleasure, and embodied truth is deeply radical work in times like these. I speak to how women reconnecting with their desire, boundaries, and inner fire is not escapism — it is world-changing.

Join the Sacred Desire Waitlist Here!

Inside Sacred Desire, we focus on:

1. Reclaiming your relationship to sexuality, intimacy, and pleasure
2. Understanding the barriers that have disconnected you from your desire
3. Healing in community rather than isolation
4. Rising together, supported and witnessed

If you feel a pull toward this work, I invite you to join the waitlist. When you do, you’ll receive:

1. My FREE Sacred Body Workbook: A Guide to Healing Body Image + Embracing Pleasure
2. A FREE 45-minute Desire Discovery Call with me
3. Space to discern, without pressure, whether this container is right for you

Above all, this episode is an offering of presence. A reminder that you are not alone, that your feelings make sense, and that even in the heaviness, something new is trying to be born.

Hold your grief.

Honor your rage.

Do not abandon hope.

We are still creating what comes next — together.

Join the Sacred Desire Waitlist Here! The course begins January 21st, 2026.

If you cannot make this round AND want to be on the waitlist for future launches of this course, please also join the waitlist and we can begin your reclamation journey through a free desire discovery call and being in my newsletter community before future launches.

Please send this to a friend that you think may benefit from this work as well. I am so grateful to anyone that is spreading the word about this sacred work and helping those that are ready step into the divine fire and collective love and liberation.

Welcome, beloveds.

And all the clients that I have worked with this week are really holding a lot of anger, a lot of grief, and I can feel it in the collective consciousness as well, of just the heaviness. Everything feels really heavy. I feel like a lot of us went through the holidays with mixed emotions.

And this week, now, we are witnessing the terror that ICE is all. All the things that they are doing in Minneapolis, they have shot and killed a woman in her car.

That was a, at best, bystander, at worst, someone trying to get ICE to stop terrorizing people the way that they have been. And apparently now they have been terrorizing high schoolers, moms, you know, you name it.

They are out there being the worst type of human that you can be. At this moment, I wanted to be a little bit vulnerable with where I'm at and my emotions through this.

Of course, I have collective grief and collective anger and rage just like everyone else.

But the big thing for me that is important, that I think I want to share is that my heart breaks when I am with my clients, because I know how hard it is to live and survive in this world. And that is why I stepped away or am stepping away from being a therapist, is because this world is not supportive of human life and human thriving.

And it's hard for me to be in the space of a therapist, to have to look through a lens of diagnoses when none of the things that my clients are experiencing are diagnosable. It's the anxiety, the depression, the malaise, the feelings of being burnt out.

It all stems from, and it has for a long time, stems from living in a world that does not support human life. That's not to say that there aren't some people that have extreme cases of, you know, anxiety and depression.

The majority of the people that I see would not have the symptoms that they have, would not have the despair around life in general that they have.

If we had a structure, an environment that actually supported humans, that supported how we need to be loved and nurtured, how we fuel our bodies, how we rest how we connect to one another, how we create and use other parts of our brains other than how we produce things.

So it truly, truly breaks my heart to bear witness to people struggling in a world that does not support their health, that does not support their aliveness.

And as I am entering into the path of the priestess, I am learning that one of the roles and the jobs of a priestess is to hold the duality, is to hold the crumbling of the old, the crumbling of patriarchy, with the vision of what is coming next, with holding hope and knowing that there is a corner that we will turn and that things will inevitably get better. And that's hard to hold in a.

A moment when there is so much collective grief, so much collective anger, so much feeling of, where are we going from here. It's a lot. It's a lot for us all to hold and to handle. And I totally understand that.

And I want to give you a moment to just feel held, to feel your feet on the ground beneath you, to know that I personally believe there is a plan in place, there is a divine plan happening. And that does not mean that any of these people that have been hurt deserve it.

That does not mean that these tragedies are just collateral damage in the process of us creating a new world. Absolutely not.

It is heartbreaking and beyond what I feel like our human minds can comprehend what is happening right now, and our hearts bleed for the people that are being harmed. And I still hold on to the fact that there is a divine plan happening here. Is the divine plan specifically targeting these people? I don't think so.

I think it's still on human free will to make these decisions.

But these decisions are based off of stories that some people are choosing to believe over the story of love, the story of connection, the story of reciprocity, and the collective being able to take care of all people instead of this zero sum game that we have been sold.

And I do think that as we see these pillars crumble that have been being weakened and barely holding up our society for a very long time, I do really believe that more people are going to be waking up, are going to be standing up, speaking out, and making their voices heard of what we want instead of what we want this world to be like, instead of what we have right now. The change comes from within.

The change comes from all of us collectively saying, this is not what we want, and here is a blueprint for what we want instead.

And that is really why I created this podcast, was to find other people that were also Wanting to create this blueprint and are already showing the people around them what could be different, how we can think differently, how we can show up differently, how we can heal differently, how we can.

I have a lot more people on the docket that I want to have on this podcast, but hopefully how we can steward our money differently, how we can build wealth differently, how we can navigate AI differently and find a way to hopefully use AI in the ways that are helpful and mitigate all that's harmful to us and the environment to, I mean, just like radically, radically change our entire fabric of society. And that's really scary to think about, to think about everything that we have known changing. And it's not going to change overnight.

It's not going to be like everything is gone and then we're replacing it with everything new. It's going to take time and it's going to take heart and it's going to take courage and love.

And love in a way that is not just beautiful, connected love, but also fierce love. Love that has very firm boundaries around what we are willing to take and what we're not.

So I just really wanted to give you a space to know that one. I've got you. I have got you. You are absolutely in the right place.

And it's okay to cry, it's okay to scream, it's okay to feel all the feelings that you have. I do encourage you to feel those feelings, to give yourself some space, some time to fully, fully feel those feelings.

And then once you have fully felt them, using some of the pleasure that we feel in feeling our feelings, to then alchemize those feelings of rage and grief into something potent for us to use to move forward, to alchemize it into something pleasurable that gives you hope for the future, that helps you seed in your mind what things are important to you that you want to see this world have or turn into. Now, what is your vision of heaven on Earth or a utopia?

We need everyone to really be focusing on feeling the feelings and then creating something new, creating something that is beautiful and that is beneficial to all of humanity.

We have so much creativity, so much love, so much beauty in this world, and yet it has been so stifled by our need to produce in order to make money in order to survive.

And my dream is that eventually we get to a world where people aren't chained to a desk anymore in order to make money to survive, that they are able to create from a place of true authenticity, create from a place of love, create from a place of Hope and create either just art just for fun that everyone gets to enjoy, or create things that are actually needed in our world to innovate and make art. All of our lives better and the planet better. To heal us. To heal the planet and to help us live a life that actually supports life.

To create a society that supports human life and human beings and the earth and all the rest of the living things on this planet. We are not the only living things on this planet. So I encourage you again to take time with your feelings.

To know that I am here, to know that this is why I am creating this podcast. You are not alone. And to know that change is coming. It is so hard right now. It is so hard right now. And I hold that. I hold that so fiercely.

It is okay to feel all the big feelings right now. But don't get stuck there. Don't get stuck there. Keep moving. Keep being on this journey with me.

Keep holding hope and alchemize those emotions into something that we can use to move forward.

I do want to mention that if you are someone who is struggling with sexuality, with desire, with coming into your fullness as a woman, I do have an offering that is coming up in the next couple weeks. I am launching my course that is called Sacred Desire.

It is the beta version of my course and I am calling in three to five women to be my founding members that will really co create and be the foundation for this course moving forward.

It is an eight week course with live sessions once a week where we will dive into each of the topics around reclaiming your relationship to sex and intimacy, reclaiming your desire, and then really rising together as a collective group.

I know that it can feel hard in this moment to one hear somebody pitch something to you and also to feel like, what is the point of doing this work in this moment?

But I want to assure you that women living in their truth and women breaking free from the patriarchal conditioning that we have been taught, and really living from a place of desire, from a place of pleasure, from a place of not being ashamed of who you are and what you deserve and being able to hold boundaries and speak about the things that you want and need within relationships, that is radical work. Right now. Again, the answer is coming from within, not necessarily from without. Doing this radical work helps change the world.

Doing this radical work allows others to then see you walking this path and seeing that it's safe to start doing their own work, to start walking the path as well. And my course, Sacred Desire, is specifically built around creating community.

I Want the women in my course to feel so held, so loved by the other women and by me. I want you to feel like this is the space where you get to be fully you.

And I really am calling in women that are ready to, to step through a threshold, that are willing to dive into the depths of the underworld and look at what are the barriers that have been placed in front of you to being able to fully embrace your desire. And I will hold you in giving you the tools to reclaim your desire.

And then collectively, as a group, you get to tend to one another and then rise together, rise to a level that you have not been at before.

And you don't only get to rise to a new level and experience life in a whole new way, but you then have sisters that are standing next to you who have been doing the work alongside of you as well. And that you get to continue to walking this path with, to walk this path with.

That is my hope for this course and for all the offers that I have in the future.

I want women and humanity to feel loved and supported in the healing journey that needs to take place in order for us to right the wrongs that have been pervasive in our society for so long. We need to heal the divine feminine and the divine masculine.

And this offering is my first step in helping women specifically start to reclaim the divine feminine within themselves through reclaiming their desire, reclaiming this sacred fire within us that so many women feel disconnected from, feel that they have lost. And so my hope for you is that you are able to dive into the fire, reclaim your desire, and then rise in our collective power.

So if this is piquing some interest in you, if you are feeling some chills or a full body. Yes. Or even soft. Yes. In your body, I invite you to go down into the show notes and check out the wait list page that I have.

And if it continues to speak to you, I really do invite you to put your name on the wait list. I will be contacting everyone that signs up on the wait list.

You will get my free Sacred Body workbook, that is a guide to healing body image and embracing pleasure when you sign up on the wait list.

And then you also get a free 45 minute desire discovery call with me where we are going to talk more in depth about your personal journey, your personal barriers to desire and how this course could be the right fit for you.

So it's no commitment until after that 45 minute call, when then I will give you the invitation to place a $50 deposit down and be part of the circle. This is just an amazing, amazing opportunity and something that I really want to bring to the world.

I have so many skills in this arena and I've been doing this work for at least like six or seven years at this point and I'm really excited to bring my knowledge and my ability to hold space to this new type of container that I have created. So there's lots more details down in the show notes. If you click on the wait list link, it has all the information on there.

I really hope that this resonates with some people. The official start date to the course is going to be January 21st, so it's in about a week and a half.

So my hope is to get some people on the wait list and have you do your consultation in the next week or so and have you make that decision before the 21st. So again, if this is speaking to you, please go down in the show notes and click the link. Now onto my conversation with Eve Hall.