In today's episode, I'm sitting down with the fabulous Jenna Morrow, founder and principal designer of Morrow Design Studios. Jenna is an amazing self-taught interior designer and a true example of balancing motherhood and entrepreneurship.

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do hard things. Welcome to The Suite.

Hey friends, welcome to another episode. Thank you so much for being here. I

am very excited for today's episode. We have a guest with

us in the suite. Our guest today is Jenna Morrow and she is

the founder and principal designer behind Morrow Design

Studios, which she opened in 2021 following an

intense battle with postpartum anxiety. She's a Philadelphia

native, so she's no stranger. to strength and grit, but

both were threatened after the birth of her first child. She sought

professional help from a therapist who offered a variety of coping

mechanisms, including the 5 4 3 2 1

method, which encourages you to tap into your five

senses to bring you out of an anxious state and into the present

moment. And it was during this exercise that Jenna

realized her home was not an environment that supported her

anxiety as it lacked a sensory experience.

And so her design firms mission was

conceived. Jenna is also a multiple sclerosis

warrior. She was diagnosed in 2012 and has been an

advocate for MS awareness by sharing her story and

supporting various organizations. So

welcome to the suite. Jenna, how are you today? Hi, I am

good. Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited for this. Yes, I'm

excited to, and you guys, I know I talk about this a lot on the

podcast now, but Jenna and I actually connected randomly on threads.

So y'all, if you are not on thread, it

is so easy to connect with people over there and we found out we're both

from Philadelphia and we're both in the DMV area now, Yes.

Yeah, your shot. It's fun over there. Jenna,

tell us a little bit more about you yourself and just what

you do through your business. absolutely. So like you said, I am

Jenna Morrow, Philly native, go Eagles. And I live in the DC

area, um, where I run my interior design firm that focuses primarily on

residential projects, but we also dabble in commercial projects. And so

just like you said, when you read my introduction, thank you for that, by the

way. Um, You know, I want to make sure that when people look

around at their homes, they see a home that identifies with who they are, but

also one that supports their mental health, supports their overall

wellbeing and then supports their goals in life. I always

say we design for who you are, where you've been, but what also

for who you aspire to be. And I think having all of those factors in

a space is really important. So that is what we do.

Love that we don't get to talk much about that here on the podcast. We

talk a lot about business and just navigating mom life and things,

but I don't think we really realize how much our

surroundings and our home has an effect just on

Like I mentioned in your bio, you know, it wasn't good for your postpartum anxiety.

And so I'm glad we're having this conversation today. since we mentioned

that, do you mind talking about what that kind of looked like for you when

you were going through postpartum anxiety? what were some of the,

symptoms or things that you were experiencing? Um,

Just so people can understand what that really looks like, because I

believe that some people really are going through it and they just don't really know

because they are just tough and we're used to pushing through things.

So can you talk a little bit about what that looked like for you? And

I was actually one of those people, so I never knew.

I heard people say, Oh, I had anxiety, but I never knew what that meant.

And so I always knew in my life, though, I constantly chalked it up

to I'm a worrier. I worry a lot. I worry a lot because I heard

my mom saying that. So when I had my daughter

Harper, that was in the thick of the pandemic. She was born October 2020.

And when we brought her home, I was scared because I have MS. So I

was a part of that immunocompromised group. And I have this little baby who is

also a part of that, you know, immunocompromised group. And so

I had this intense fear and worry,

at least so I thought that's what it was that Something bad was going to

happen to my daughter. She was going to catch COVID. She was going to pass

away. I was going to catch COVID. I was going to pass away. So that

started the fear. And then the anxiety just kind of went into

over overload because suddenly it

wasn't just COVID that I feared it was our safety in general.

And so there were things such as if I had to take her to the

doctor, I couldn't drive her there by myself. I

would have an anxiety attack. My husband was like, why don't you go for a

walk by yourself? You know, just enjoy some time away from her. And I had

a full blown anxiety attack. I'm using that language now because I know what it

was now, but then I didn't understand it. But what it looked like was

me just crying uncontrollably, my heart racing, and I didn't

understand what it was. But after it happened continuously

in April of 2021, I had 17. panic attacks

in that month alone. I started keeping count. So finally, the

last one I had in April, it was really bad. And my husband

looked at me and said, I think we have to get you help. And I

said, you know what? I think we do too. Because I can't live like this.

When you're a mom, you're a mom for the rest of your life.

And I was like, I don't want to go through life with this feeling and

this quote unquote worry, which became, which was

anxiety. And I was like, I want better for myself. I

want better for my daughter because I did have a little black girl. And I

was like, I don't want her seeing her mom, you know, this ball of

tears every time she had to leave the house or go do something.

So I was, fully accepting of the fact that I needed

help. And so I got it. And then that's when I got the therapist who

introduced me to that 54321 method that you mentioned.

That's really interesting. Thank you for sharing that when it comes to

the anxiety piece, was that something that you experienced?

you had your child, it was that triggered simply by giving

birth. It's something looking back and having talked to

a therapist. It's something I had my entire life,

Okay. it was far worse when I had a baby.

But I was I was a student in school who, if I knew the answer,

of raising my hand, I would start sweating, my heart would start

racing. And so I just wouldn't raise my hand. And so

like, I've always had anxiety. No one knew it though.

Psychiatrists, um, that I have now, you know, has given me medication for it,

which I'm, I'm fully, you know, accepting a saying. And I

joked with him and I said, Now, if I had had this about 20 years

ago, I could have gone to Harvard. I'd probably be a CEO of some

major company. I was joking with him, obviously, but I was just thinking

this has been so transformative for me as an adult. I could only

imagine how transforming my life would have been in my more

formative years. Had I had that support then.

That is so interesting. When you mentioned, you know, not wanting to raise

your hand as a child. Like I definitely experienced that too. Even

making phone calls when I was like in my younger adulthood,

I would like have to pump myself up to just make a simple

phone call to somebody. And I never thought that it was like anxiety or I

never thought anything of it. I just thought, Oh, this is my personality. This is

how I am. But now hearing you share your story, it's like, Oh,

maybe that was something else. Maybe. Maybe I should talk to

somebody about that. So that's why I love people to share

their stories and I really dig deeper into like common language that we

always say, but we never really unpack. Like, what does anxiety really look

like? So thank you so much for sharing that. Um,

now what was it? Okay. You went through the therapy. What was

it going on in your home that you realized it wasn't conducive for your

anxiety? Like, how did that. Part unpick. So

in my, um, the home we were living in was our first home that my

husband and I bought, you know, ever. And so when I was decorating it, I

was just like, okay, I need a picture here. And I wasn't too

focused on, you know, it needs to be a picture of this to reflect Jenna

and Jenna's interest. That wasn't going through my mind at all. I was just

thinking, I need a picture that contains this color. That's this size. And it needs

to go right here on the wall. So when I was doing the five, four,

three, two, one method, the way it works is. I may mess this up a

little bit, but you have to name five things you can see, four things you

can feel, three things you can

see, two things you can hear,

and one thing you can taste. And so when I was sitting,

I would do it in my living room because that was the room that You

know, made me come to life in hindsight. It was the

room that had the most natural light. Therefore it supported my anxiety. And again, these

are all things I didn't know at the time, but I love that room and

gravitated to is that's always where I did the five, four, three, two, one method,

and I would do five and I'm like, okay, five. And then when it got

to like four, five things you can touch, I didn't have a lot

of different textures in my living room. I had maybe like.

Three. And again, because I wasn't going for texture, I was going for

a look. I was like, it's our first house. Let's fill this, let's fill it

up. It doesn't matter how. And then when it got to things like

scent and even hearing, I'm like, this doesn't reflect

me. Jenna likes natural light. So I want to be able to see the

outside in a room that I'm in. I also love, love, love

music. Nineties R& B. Like that's it for me. So, you

know, I didn't have a speaker in that room. I didn't have

anything in that room going on to kind of help ground me when I was

going through that. And so every time I did things I could hear, I'm like,

I hear a lawnmower, but there's nothing grounding about a

lawnmower or soothing about that. You know, if I wanted to change my

environment to reflect Jenna, reflect what uplifts

me, what inspires me, and also what grounds me when I am having those moments

of anxiety, doubt, imposter syndrome, and so on.

This is so intriguing like as you're talking I'm thinking about how

For me to feel, I don't want to say safe, but for me to feel

like I can be productive in my work, like my space has to be a

certain way. Like it has to be clean. I need to have a candlelit, all

these things. Right. So a lot of our audience are moms who

work from home as well. So can you kind of share

just some tips related to how they can create that

environment that's, you know, reflective of them, all the things you were just

saying, like it helps to ground them and helps them just to be more

productive as well. For sure. So I think you have to just

like you said, determine what factors will keep you inspired and

focused when you are working for me. I need natural light.

You cannot put me in a windowless room and think I'm going to get anything

done. So that's the first thing. Determine what those

factors are. But then, you know, You know, the easiest way to do it is

actually through your five senses. So how does it smell?

If you struggle with focus, maybe you need sage or cinnamon because

they help with focus. Maybe you need that a candle that smells like that in

the room. Um, or if you're someone who needs some sort of music

playing, when I was in college, I only studied to music.

And so when I started working, I'm like, clearly I have to work to

music, but maybe you're somebody who like, I can't focus if there's a lot of

background noise, like somebody, my neighbor's cutting the grass. I can't get any work done.

So that's you. Then you need to get some noise canceling headphones, but you have

to think about your five senses and then create that environment

where you work. And I think sometimes, you know, We

don't always look at home or our offices or even our offices at

home as sensory experiences, but that's essentially

what they have to be. And they have to be tailored to what it is

that makes us feel good about ourselves. And so when you think about

decorating and designing as a sensory experience, that's

only going to elevate and positively impact your

productivity. That's so

good I am interested to know, like if

you have any tips as far as how moms

can they're doing the sensory thing, you know, making it

conducive for themselves. How can they bring

their style into their, their environment, but

also making it, you know, like childproof conducive for a family,

right? Because those two things, sometimes it can be hard to match them.

So do you have any tips for that? Yeah. So the first thing I

always tell my clients. Is your furniture will

be as good to you as you are to your furniture. So if

you have a house where I know some people who, you know, they let their

family eat on the couch, more power to them. But if that's the

case, that white couch, that is your style.

You gotta let it go. It's not gonna, it's not gonna fit in that living

room because your family is allowed to eat. And there's no white couch that will

sustain a family that eats on it regularly. So we have to

be realistic about. Our lifestyles and

the behaviors that are within our homes. And so

if you, if you have a style, that's not conducive to the behaviors of your

family and your kids, then you have to compromise a little bit.

The second thing is there's literally nothing wrong. And whoever tells you there's something wrong

with it is wrong. There is nothing wrong with combining high

end pieces with budget friendly furniture. I do it all the time in

my house and clients homes. And I have two toddlers.

So I always tell clients and myself that when you are combining high

end and budget friendly, the thing you want to do is invest in your bigger

pieces and then go budget friendly for your smaller pieces. So

think about a dining room table or dining room, for example. So you want to

invest in the dining room table because one, they're expensive. You don't want to keep

buying a new one, you know, every couple of years, but then go budget

friendly on the chairs. And I say that because those chairs with kids

are going to see the most Accidents are going to see spills, maybe some

footprints here and there. Um, and then you go affordable

with the area rug, for example, under the table. Cause that's also, you know, high

traffic, but then you go high end on that chandelier that's above

the dining room table. Cause that's again, an item you're not going to swap in

and out every couple of years. And don't be afraid of dupes. Dupes

are phenomenal. And what a dupe is basically is a

cheaper version that, you know, looks a little bit different from

a more expensive item. There was a marble bistro table I

wanted so bad from CB2. It wasn't in the budget, and it

also wasn't conducive to a family with two toddlers, so I opted

for a dupe. From Amazon that was like not even a quarter of the

price and it's been holding up perfectly and serving his purpose. So

don't be afraid of dupes. Another thing I want to say is be mindful, not

just of the durability of the items you buy. Like, yes, they have to be

durable with kids, but you also have to consider how it's cleaned. And I think

that's something a lot of people overlook. You have to read the cleaning

instructions before you invest. So some furniture will say like spot clean

only, and some will say professional cleaning only. If you have

kids, you don't want either one of those options. You have to go for something

that you can, you yourself easily clean with gentle

soap and water, even a cleaning solution that is specifically made for that

fabric. And then lastly, there are other ways to

incorporate your style beyond furniture, like have fun with

the features of your home and also with the decor. So when I'm speaking about

features, I'm thinking of wall molding, I'm thinking of wallpaper.

Then when it comes to the decor, you've got curtains, you can have fun with,

throw pillows, wall art. There are so many ways to include your

style that will work in a home that has kids, and I don't want

anyone to overlook that. So your style can certainly come

to life in a home with a boring couch. Because you have kids

by way of your decor and even the features of your home. Oh,

my goodness. Those were some great, great tips getting me so

excited over here. So as you're talking, like, if you guys are listening, you

can tell you're an expert at what you do. Right? So I'm

interested to hear more about your journey. Like, how did you kind of

stumble into interior design? Were you

introduced to it somehow when you were younger? Did you know somebody? Did you

go to school for it? Like, how did that unravel? Yes. So I am

one of those people who was self taught. Um, if you look at like

Shay McGee or Joanna Gaines, I'm a part of that tribe. We are all

self taught. So I fell into it when I was little, my mom always

jokes that we would go to someone's house and it was well decorated. I would

come back to our house and then start rearranging things. So I guess it kind

of started there, but I was always drawn to creativity and

art and, When I was in school, those were my electives. And so as I

got older, it wasn't until my husband and I bought our

first house. That I started to really, you know, there was

space and opportunity for me to make it come to life. And I was like,

Oh, I like this. This is fun. So I started a blog and then that

led, and I started posting on social media that led to friends asking me to

help them with their homes, which led to becoming

clients to me, but I was in corporate America doing marketing at the

time. And so I was like, I can't, you know, it's just not realistic to

do both. I was a newlywed. I was like, I want to, you know, have

fun too. And so finally, uh, after my daughter was born, when I was

going through that postpartum anxiety was my husband who said to me, you

should quit and pursue design full time because you're really good at it. Just

naturally and quitting and allowing me to do it full time also

created space and opportunity for me to. Teach myself even more

because I had more time and flexibility to do so. So no, I didn't go

to school for it. I was just always drawn to creativity and art

and according to my parents, decorating and

doing it in my home caught the attention of others. So I got to start

doing it in their home. I love that. I always

love hearing people's story because it's never what you think it's going to be right.

never is. And it's just so interesting to hear how people kind of got to

where they are today. It's always like a combination of these

experiences and and now they're here, but it's never like a

linear path, right? Agree. so wow.

So you started your business recently. You just are naturally gifted

in it. And so your first child, you said was born

during the pandemic. So how

are you managing the intersection of motherhood and

entrepreneurship? Because I feel like that all kind of happens around the same

time. So how have you been able to manage that? What are the things that

help you in that intersection? I do, before

I answer this one, just say. Although it may look

easy from the outside, looking in from the inside, it's,

it's extremely hard and I wouldn't even say I'm

managing. And I would say I'm juggling it as best I can. So the

way I'm doing that is one discipline. So I have a routine during the week

that I try to follow as much as possible. And that's, that's for home,

but also for business. And I try to treat my business the way I

treat it, my nine to five. So when I worked in corporate, I No matter

what kind of night I had, if I tossed and turned and got two hours

of sleep or eight hours. Better believe I was at my desk at 9

a. m. And so I like to give my business the same treatment and the

same respect. Now, if I had to step away and take a nap during the

day, that's my business, but I do my

best to maintain discipline with my work, my

job, and also with my, my family. And I say

discipline because discipline trumps motivation every single time.

Second, I would say flexibility. So I'm really strict about what my goals

are, but I'm very flexible about my methods and the way that I

achieve them. And so as a mom, you know, I have to be. I got

a call a couple weeks ago from my daughter's school that the power went out

because of a storm. And so You know, of course that impacted my day,

but motherhood has truly taught me the importance of adaptability. And so I had to

be adaptable that day. And in most cases, just about every week,

but adaptability is, is good because it has,

it's an essential part of running a business. You

have to be flexible and adaptable because things are changing. I mean,

AI, look at AI. You have to adapt and learn how to use it or

else it's going to be running. Your business, you know, how do you make it

work with your business? Social media is always changing. So there has to be an

adaptability at work and at home as a mom,

who's also an entrepreneur and then, um, do not

disturb. So I'm an iPhone user. If anyone listening

also is too, you probably use it, but do not disturb. I have fallen in

love with that feature. And so when I'm in deep focus mode

at work or when I'm tending to, you know, my house, I

limit everyone's access to me. by selecting do not

disturb. And I do this because I discovered that a

major part or major cause of my overwhelm was

trying to do too much at once multitasking. I would be

changing my daughter's diaper while reading a text message. And so finally I was

like, girl, what are you doing? This isn't life or death. The text message

can wait. And so I couldn't lend my

focus to just one area. I was trying to lend it to

multiple at once. And that just turned me into, you know, big ball of stress.

So my whole life is on my phone, which

is why my phone is what gets that do not disturb.

arrangement because I need life beyond

what's in front of me to pause so I can focus on what I need

to get done. So I shut off notifications, the calls, the likes, the email

popups, everything pauses so I can focus and steady my

pace. And the last thing is I minimize distractions

when I'm with my kids, our time,

even with my husband too, like our time is our time. And so when I

started my business, Not happy to say this, but I'm sure many moms can

relate. I would be the mom who would be replying to an email while my

toddler's saying, Mommy, Mommy, watch me or watch this. And after a

while, it was just like, you know what? She doesn't deserve this. So now

my time with my kids is, is important and

it's our time and everything else can wait unless it's urgent. But if it is

urgent, I'm, I'm that mom who is not afraid to

communicate with my kids and say, Hey guys, listen, mommy has to do

something for work for five minutes. Can you, can you give mommy five minutes? And

they'll say, okay. I do that though, because there's a couple, a

couple of reasons. One, I want them to know that mommy does work and is

chasing her dreams, which I hope one day empowers them to do the same.

Two multitasking just isn't ideal. You just heard me talk about

what, what it did to me. Right. And I want them to know it's

okay to put something down in order to pick something else up. You

don't have to hold both at the same time. Three, I don't

want them to be strangers to work. Because it is something that all of

us must do at some point in our lives. And I don't want to shut

them off from the concept of work, no matter how young they are.

And then four, I want them to know that mommy's life can be

inclusive of work and family. But it requires mommy

juggling. It requires mommy pausing work for, you know, an hour to play with the

kids or Paul causes mommy to tell the kids let's pause for five minutes. So

I can tend to work. I want them to witness mommy

juggling. So they grow to understand that as they get older,

because as women, that's kind of what's required of us,

according to society, that's kind of the box that society puts us in.

And so they're going to be a product of that too. And so, but I

feel like. You know, achieving all of that starts with being

open with them about work so they can understand what it is and why

it's important. That was so Very

sorry. Well,

so I hope you guys were taking notes. I think a lot of what you

said, though, was really relatable. Um, and you're speaking a lot

to what we talk about here on the podcast often, you know, just having

your priorities and having those boundaries, not just

boundaries for like the family, but boundaries for the business. So you can be

fully present with your Children in the moment. Okay. Um, but then

also that communication piece. I like that you included that, like, okay,

if there is something that you do need to address with the business, just communicating

with your children or your family, that that's what it is. So

that they are, you know, that they understand what work is because like you

mentioned, they are going to have to, um, at some point be in that

same, space. So I, I love, I love, I love that mini

masterclass you just gave us. Um,

That was really good. So you mentioned how motherhood,

uh, let me see, what did you say? It helped you to be more

adaptable. And so I know motherhood

kind of teaches you a lot of different things, how to be adaptable, how to

be flexible. I did an episode about how it helped me be a better business

owner. So for you, how did motherhood though, how

did it prepare you for managing a team?

yes, because before starting this business, I had never managed a team.

So I, just like I was new to motherhood in 2020, I was new to

managing a team in 2021. But I would say there's three ways for

this one. So one, all of us receive information differently.

I can't instruct both of my kids the same way. And

that's also the case when you manage a team, some have a bevy of questions

when you share instructions and others may need time to

process and then come back to you with questions. And then you may have someone

who just gets it right away, but sharing information or

instructions. In one way doesn't mean that everyone

understood it the same way. And so just like, you know, your kids will,

you have to get to know each member of your team so you know how

to effectively lead them. And this requires patience with the

process of leading because you won't know How every team member

receives information from day one. It takes time. Your kids are

born. You don't, you know them, you know, when they're born, but like

over time, you're going to get to know their personalities and their ticks and all

that. It's the same thing with a team member. You have to take time and

be patient with the process of getting to know them. The second thing is

perspective is in the eye of the viewer. You can put 10

people in front of one piece of art. Okay. All 10 are not going to

have the same perspective of that piece of art, and that's okay, right? I

think those differences in perspective are where true influence

and innovation lie. But as a leader, and as a mom, I feel

like it's important to pause and understand what my kids

and my team see. I may show both of my

kids a really tall slide. My oldest daughter may be like, this looks like

fun because she's a little daredevil. While my youngest daughter, who's a little more cautious,

she may see it and think, oh my gosh, this looks terrifying. And both

perspectives are right. Because they're theirs.

So you have to practice as a leader, just like you do as a mom,

active listening to hear what your team members are seeing.

And then you have to understand why, why are you seeing it that way? How

have your past experiences led you to this perspective? So I

think that's also important. And then third,

affirmations are essential. As a mom, my

kids faces light up when I affirm them. If I'm like, Oh, you

look beautiful. Or I love your hair or your dress is so nice. Or simply,

I love you. They truly value knowing I see them. And as

a leader, it's the same thing. We have to have empathy towards our team members.

You know, all of us know what it was like. the

leader. We all started there right in our careers. And so we

have to empathize with their position and understand what's required

of us as leaders to make them feel safe, appreciated

and value just the same as we do as moms towards our kids.

And so to me, You know, empathy is the hallmark of good

leadership. And when you operate from a place of empathy and

compassion, you'll always have team members who are willing to support

you. Just the same as if you operate from that place as a mom, your

kids will always, always love you. That was so

good, Jenna. Oh my goodness. Empathy is the hallmark of good leadership. I'm not

even going to add anything on top of that because you just said it

so, just so gracefully and wonderfully. Um, I'm

curious though, About your team. Did you

start out your business with the team or was there a period where it was

just you? And then, well, how long was that period between when it

was just you? And when you hired,

Um, it was, so I started the business August of 2021,

hired my first team member. I think it was April of

2022, or maybe it was June. I think it was April. So it was me

for how many months? And Eight months. okay. I was by myself for the

first eight months. Um, and then, yeah, hired my first team member in

April and then a second one. And then, you know, I had to

make some adjustments. So both of them are no longer with me. They were full

time employees. They are no longer with me. And I added 2 more who were

full time contractors. So I prefer that

method. I, you know, if you want me to explain why I'm happy to, but,

um, I chose the contractor model because that was just a

smart decision. Yes. I know. Yes. You can go

ahead and expand on that. I know some people are like, Oh, what's the difference?

So go ahead. Explain your Yeah. So if you have a

full time employee, there are a lot of other responsibilities that come with,

with, you know, that such as you have to provide, you know,

healthcare. You have to provide, um, unemployment insurance.

There are a lot of things that you have to provide to them. And there

are also a lot of protections that they receive, which I think is great.

But if you're a new business, you may not have the

financial means to provide. All of that to them.

And then with contractors, you know, the reason I was

Indecisive about which way to go in the beginning was because with contractors,

it's a little tricky about their schedules. They completely own their

schedules. So it's not one of those arrangements where you can tell them what

to do. They operate on their own time. And that's by

law, whereas an employee. You can kind of dictate

their day. We need to have a, you know, a weekly meeting at 12 every

Wednesday and a meeting on, on Thursdays it's at four.

So I, I gravitated to that at first, but now that I've done the

contractor model, you know, I'm kind of void of any

major responsibilities like the health insurance and unemployment insurance.

Um, and then also taxes. They pay their own

taxes. I don't have to do anything with their taxes. If they were

employees, that's a totally different story. So it's just a simpler

model. It's easier to manage, and when it comes down

to the, the paperwork and the backend operations of it all con, the

contractor model is a lot easier, especially in the beginning of your

career as a business. Yes, there definitely

are major differences. And so if you are in that space where you're thinking about,

you know, hiring definitely consult with a

professional to kind of give you all of the pros and cons

and what would make sense for you and your business. So I'm glad we were

able just to touch on that a little bit lightly. Um, but this has been

so good. Oh my goodness. This conversation literally could go on forever,

but. Um, let people

know just how they can connect with you. Where are you? Are you on

social? And just what does it look like to work with you?

Yeah. So where I am, I'm everywhere. Just like, you know, Felicia said at the

beginning threads. Um, but of course, because I'm on threads, that means I'm on

Instagram. Jenna DeMauro. I'm also on YouTube as

Jenna DeMauro. Everything is Jenna DeMauro. If you're looking for me, Pinterest,

TikTok, it's all Jenna DeMauro. And then my business is

Morrow Design Studios. Like you said, at the beginning, my website is morrowdesignstudios.

com. And what it's like to work with me, I always say, and you'll find

this on my website, you embark on a journey of discovery. And that's what it's

like working with me because I will, you know, want to hear your life story.

I want to hear about your past, your values. And I want to use that

to inspire the way we decorate and design your space. And

it's, you know, I'm very, I love the fact that we do it in a

way that you wouldn't expect. And I think that's what makes us unique. The

other thing, because I do have multiple sclerosis, when you do work with me, you

support the MS society because a percentage of every project is

donated to the MS society in hopes of finding a cure.

So I think working with us is fun. I think

it's impactful. I think it's, you know, it's just

one big journey of discovery. And I think in the end people

learn to value and appreciate their homes even more because it truly reflects who

they are. So, so good. So

guys, we will put all of Jenna's info in the show description so you

can click all the links, get connected, um, set up a

consultation. If you're just interested in working with Jenna or finding

out more about how she may be able to help you with your

interior design. This has been an amazing episode. Thank you guys

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