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Speaker:It's March 18, 2024,
Speaker:and this is the Watson
Speaker:Weekly your essential ecommerce
Speaker:digest today on our show,
Speaker:the end of the free shipping era is greatly
Speaker:exaggerated. Software as a service
Speaker:keeps getting harder. American
Speaker:Eagles Logistics Capitulation ends the pandemic's
Speaker:logistics fever dream Shopify
Speaker:at Morgan Stanley Tech Conference 2024
Speaker:takeaways and
Speaker:finally, the investor minute, which contains
Speaker:five items this week from the world of venture capital,
Speaker:acquisitions and IPOs. Look out for our brand
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Speaker:Watson weekend just in time for shop Talk
Speaker:2024.
Speaker:First, in our shopping cart full of news, the end
Speaker:of the free shipping area is greatly exaggerated.
Speaker:With margins getting tighter across retailers,
Speaker:you sometimes see reports about the end of free shipping.
Speaker:While that may be true for merchants who are struggling to afford
Speaker:subsidizing shipping, that doesn't mean the consumers don't
Speaker:want it. A recent survey from payments and
Speaker:Adobe highlights a simple truth.
Speaker:66% of consumers consider free shipping
Speaker:key to customer loyalty. In short,
Speaker:larger retailers still must figure out a way to subsidize
Speaker:free shipping if they want to grow. The changes
Speaker:to Walmart plus in the last couple of years and the recent
Speaker:revamp of Target's loyalty program points to one
Speaker:thing. Consumers are still willing to pay for
Speaker:shipping loyalty, at least when there is a wide assortment and
Speaker:fast delivery involved. With the decline of
Speaker:retailer based private label credit cards, other
Speaker:sources of revenue like loyalty membership,
Speaker:retail media programs and for the big
Speaker:players, fulfillment services are the most logical way to
Speaker:subsidize this. Extended warranties factor
Speaker:in, too, providing some retailers critical margin
Speaker:dollars. Can anyone else buy an airline ticket
Speaker:without being forced to unselect third party purchase
Speaker:protection? Do Boeing's plane doors keep falling
Speaker:off because they keep declining this coverage? Inquiring
Speaker:minds want to know. Another interesting point
Speaker:about the difference between brand and retailer shopping behaviors
Speaker:was also mentioned. The youngest generation
Speaker:survey, Gen Z, expressed a 43%
Speaker:preference for a brand than a retailer, whereas the
Speaker:average of other generations was at 28%.
Speaker:Still, the majority of even that generation,
Speaker:57% prefer marketplaces and
Speaker:retailers. Why? Well, uh, the answer
Speaker:is simple. Competitive prices and wide
Speaker:selection. Again, that pesky Amazon
Speaker:formula which keeps showing up, Walmart does a
Speaker:good job here too. It's almost like we keep trying to
Speaker:reinvent a new way to attract consumers to shop, but keep
Speaker:ending up at the starting point we found 20 years ago.
Speaker:What was that starting point? Well, back in the stone
Speaker:age of ecommerce, when dinosaurs roamed the earth,
Speaker:ebay ruled the roost. One analyst even called
Speaker:it indestructible thinking. Auctions were the future
Speaker:of all online purchases. Because of efficient price
Speaker:discovery, Amazon and even eBay's
Speaker:own internal teams discovered a new generation of
Speaker:buyers coming onto the Internet. Ebay even
Speaker:had a fancy MBA style name for it,
Speaker:cobs or convenience oriented
Speaker:buyers. The problem ebay had? They could not
Speaker:figure out what the heck to do about them.
Speaker:Amazon, of course, had no such problem. Jeff
Speaker:Bezos bet that low prices and unlimited selection was
Speaker:the key to the whole equation, which repelled the
Speaker:growth. Prime in 2005 gave him a
Speaker:consumer subsidy for shipping, but more importantly,
Speaker:loyalty. The market still has not caught up
Speaker:with Amazon's execution of this formula, and in
Speaker:some ways, this report just confirms what you already think
Speaker:about why everyone shops at Amazon. The report
Speaker:also highlights that if you prefer shopping at brands, trust
Speaker:is the primary reason, which has always
Speaker:been the issue with wide selection and marketplace. This
Speaker:contains a lesson for brands in the audience. If you can tell in
Speaker:reviews that marketplace customers are having a tough time in
Speaker:Amazon, I would use that information on your product detail
Speaker:pages.
Speaker:Our second story software as a service
Speaker:keeps getting harder. Firm Tidal Wave
Speaker:Research published a report recently that I thought might have some
Speaker:relevance for software as a service. Founders and the ecommerce
Speaker:industry the broad theme is that the last 15
Speaker:years have been great for SaaS, but the next ten
Speaker:years gains could be harder to come by.
Speaker:The gains in the last decade have attracted more
Speaker:competition and new entrants. There will
Speaker:be an inevitable shakeout in the next five years, and
Speaker:the failure rate of startups could be even higher than the
Speaker:historical average due to that increased competition.
Speaker:The report has a few pieces of advice for founders on their
Speaker:journey from my point of view. First, building a
Speaker:software startup is not just about technology. If you
Speaker:don't have an interesting and sticky go to market strategy, you
Speaker:will struggle. Technology in the age of AI
Speaker:is easily replicated and those hard won customers
Speaker:could easily choose a competitor, which means moats
Speaker:are getting thinner. Second,
Speaker:speaking of moats, the report indicates that most
Speaker:companies don't have one. Just because you have a good
Speaker:retention doesn't mean you actually have a moat. It
Speaker:just means that you have not yet been disrupted, and all it
Speaker:takes is, uh, a well financed entrant to the market.
Speaker:You see it all the time in the Shopify ecosystem in
Speaker:particular, which has been one of the more competitive e commerce
Speaker:software environments I've seen in a while.
Speaker:Third, there has been a significant decline in
Speaker:investment returns from what the authors call vanilla
Speaker:SaaS, meaning just subscription oriented
Speaker:software that does a job with no other angles.
Speaker:This is particularly true because these vanilla platforms are not
Speaker:mission critical systems of record for their customers.
Speaker:Instead, they are simply the icing on the cake and offer
Speaker:features like better intelligence, better intelligence
Speaker:on top of someone else's system of record. Sounds like a house of
Speaker:cards and more like a feature waiting to be copied or
Speaker:acquired from a real business. Sadly,
Speaker:the ecommerce world contains so many products like this
Speaker:that are just waiting to be disrupted by the prime mover
Speaker:in their ecosystem, and usually that's the main platform
Speaker:provider they depend on. If this sounds like you,
Speaker:I would encourage you to diversify into other providers and
Speaker:find new problems you can solve for your customers.
Speaker:American Eagle's logistics capitulation ends the
Speaker:pandemic logistics fever dream American
Speaker:Eagle Outfitter got caught up when everything is going
Speaker:up and to the right faster than it ever has before, everyone, of course,
Speaker:thinks it's going to continue going up and to the right. In
Speaker:2021, the company bought Quiet Logistics, a, uh, venerable
Speaker:automated three PL network for apparel merchants started by
Speaker:Bruce Welty. This same year, the company acquired
Speaker:a ten month old startup, Air Terra, when it was convinced the
Speaker:startup could democratize shipping rates and capabilities for small
Speaker:to medium shippers in 2022. The
Speaker:company launched a nationwide shipping network in
Speaker:2023, just one year later, AEO had
Speaker:second thoughts about its logistics ambitions and forced out the
Speaker:head of its logistics unit due to profitability
Speaker:concerns. Sounds like another well known
Speaker:logistics company, Flexport, whose founder gave a
Speaker:new executive even less Runway than a year.
Speaker:Now, news reports have american eagle
Speaker:refocusing away from being a general purpose carrier
Speaker:and instead focusing more on its own brands and a few key
Speaker:customers. It's tough to fight the king,
Speaker:apparently. Logistics even more difficult and even
Speaker:lower margin than people thought. Let me break it down
Speaker:for everyone. The list of retailers who should be
Speaker:logistics company is varying, small and getting
Speaker:smaller. The list in the United States may be down to
Speaker:two, Walmart and Amazon. Either way,
Speaker:these trends are clear. In North America, space
Speaker:is abundant and consolidation is on the horizon as three
Speaker:PL providers can't fill their spaces with declining
Speaker:volumes, mostly because those bigger, bulky
Speaker:items were moving quickly during the pandemic.
Speaker:Now smaller items are moving and most of the growth
Speaker:is due to parcels being injected into the US network from
Speaker:overseas like timu and xien
Speaker:hardlines and big purchases are down. General
Speaker:merchandise is barely predicted to recover year over year.
Speaker:It's not that supply chain is becoming less interesting or
Speaker:sexy. It's more that supply chain is becoming less interesting
Speaker:or sexy to those who shouldn't be attempting to be supply chain
Speaker:players at all. Which leaves more innovation and
Speaker:interesting work for the dedicated folks who understood from the
Speaker:beginning, no matter how sexy it might
Speaker:sound, logistics is low margin and
Speaker:efficiency gains are hard won. Invest
Speaker:accordingly
Speaker:and our last story Shopify at Morgan
Speaker:Stanley Tech conference 2024 takeaways
Speaker:Harley and Jeff spoke with Keith Weiss at the Morgan
Speaker:Stanley Tech conference last week. A few things
Speaker:stood out to me. First is headcount.
Speaker:Last year Shopify was at 14,000 people.
Speaker:Now that they're at 8000, that's a hugely
Speaker:different number. And they are committed to staying at or
Speaker:around that number, even the face of enterprise sales team
Speaker:growth. So if you're a Shopify VP,
Speaker:all those open wrecks canceled. That's what
Speaker:Jeff says. The reason that Shopify can do well
Speaker:in this current climate is that they have the brands that people love
Speaker:and want. That's what they say. The company thinks that
Speaker:consumer spending is pretty decent from their point of view, which
Speaker:matches their recent Q four performance.
Speaker:Also, the two noted it was just a year ago that they
Speaker:were being asked about Shopify fulfillment network. How
Speaker:happy are they that this is in the rear view mirror? At least
Speaker:now they only have to throw a few hundred million at Flexport every year
Speaker:till they get to actually default alive. And that's very
Speaker:different than trying to build it themselves, which would have cost them many
Speaker:more billions. The two Shopify leaders were
Speaker:also pointing out that Shopify is the second biggest
Speaker:checkout in the United States and how that gives them the
Speaker:advantages of scale. Who's the first biggest
Speaker:checkout? Well, Amazon, of course. It's an
Speaker:impressive stat, and I would shout about that too.
Speaker:There is some question about gross margin pressures. The
Speaker:CFO revealed that stripe Adyen and PayPal
Speaker:contracts will renew in the next few years. It
Speaker:sounds like the cost of accessing those payment processors and
Speaker:networks could increase and put more downward pressure on
Speaker:gross margins. What about a Shopify
Speaker:marketplace? I think Harley's answer was actually
Speaker:kind of too cute by half. Listen to this
Speaker:quote. But right now we're still sort of in the model of
Speaker:teaching our merchants how to fish and helping them find better
Speaker:customers in terms of giving them the fish and giving them the
Speaker:customers. That may be something we do in the future. We're not
Speaker:doing that just yet.
Speaker:Emphasis mine. Teaching to fish, from my
Speaker:point of view is helping people with advertising. Giving
Speaker:them fish is a marketplace. It sounds like they
Speaker:may not do it yet, but of course yet is not
Speaker:never. Toby a few years ago said they
Speaker:will not do the obvious thing which most people believe. He was
Speaker:talking about a marketplace. With regard to shop app,
Speaker:I think what Harley really means here, from my point of view, is that the
Speaker:Shop app is a thing today, but there's not much scale
Speaker:there. When there is scale, we'll talk about it.
Speaker:Second, I also feel he's saying that they aren't explicitly
Speaker:trying to build something like an Amazon, they want it to end up
Speaker:in a different place. All told, Shopify is
Speaker:in a place where most of its cash generation will come from keeping
Speaker:its expenses mainly headcount
Speaker:low and driving top line growth rather
Speaker:than acceleration of known margin expanding
Speaker:products. Their advertising and other products are just
Speaker:so subscale relative to the payments business. Don't
Speaker:expect meaningful contribution for a number of
Speaker:years. Personally, I counted more margin
Speaker:headwinds than tailwinds in the call. If I didn't know
Speaker:any better, I would say that famous 3% attach
Speaker:rate is actually under attack by upcoming payment
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Speaker:It's that time, friends, for our Investor
Speaker:Minute We have five items on the menu today.
Speaker:First, three Colts acquires marketplace
Speaker:Pulse Amazon software aggregator
Speaker:Three Colts has acquired industry publication
Speaker:Marketplace Pulse for undisclosed amount
Speaker:was marketplace Pulse for sale the worst kept secret in
Speaker:ecommerce media? And what will happen with it next?
Speaker:Best of luck to Joe on the sale, but my guess is the property
Speaker:may never be the same again.
Speaker:Second, carid.com raises
Speaker:35 million in funding post restructuring
Speaker:car parts and accessories. Platform Car ID has
Speaker:raised 35 million in funding post chapter eleven
Speaker:restructuring. The funding will be used to invest in
Speaker:technology, marketing and widening of, uh, product
Speaker:selection. This looks like another SPAC
Speaker:casualty going to bounce back.
Speaker:Third, the body Shop shuts down US
Speaker:operations and closes dozens of stores in
Speaker:Canada. The body shop is filed for chapter seven
Speaker:bankruptcy in the US after its UK parent filed for
Speaker:administration in February. In November
Speaker:2023, it was acquired by the private equity fund
Speaker:Aurelius for $257,000,000.
Speaker:Remember when we all used to go to the mall?
Speaker:Fourth, Cap Hill Brands merges with
Speaker:Juvo plus brand aggregator Cap
Speaker:Hill Brands has merged with product developer Juvo plus in
Speaker:an undisclosed all stock deal to create infinite
Speaker:commerce. The brand roll up aggregator sector is
Speaker:in the middle of consolidation, and consolidation is coming
Speaker:to a lot of these brand holding companies.
Speaker:And finally, software
Speaker:platform treat raises 10 million in Series A
Speaker:funding resell platform treat has raised 10
Speaker:million in series A. The company uses a peertopeer
Speaker:approach that matches brands with people buying and selling its
Speaker:styles. How many resale platforms are there that are
Speaker:profitable in that scale? I think not many.
Speaker:And today's word of the week for March 18,
Speaker:2024 is Kate, as in
Speaker:Kate Middleton, that is. But if you don't know,
Speaker:Catherine, Princess of Wales, is a renowned
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