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A Walk Through Sports History with Author R.L. Cubit II
Episode 141115th September 2025 • Pigskin Dispatch • Darin Hayes
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Today, we delve into the fascinating realm of sports history through the lens of R.L. Cubit II, an author who chronicles his remarkable experiences within the world of athletics, particularly football. Our discussion centers on his book, "Bleacher Kings Sports Almanac," which encapsulates a plethora of sporting events that he has witnessed over the years, evoking a sense of nostalgia while highlighting the enduring impact of these moments. Cubitt shares his personal anecdotes, including encounters with legendary players and unforgettable games, providing us with an engaging narrative that intertwines personal fandom with broader sports culture. As we explore his Forrest Gump-like journey through various sporting events, we recognize the profound influence of these experiences on his life and perspective. Join us as we reflect on the significance of sports in shaping memories and fostering connections within our communities.

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Speaker A:

You know, a few years back when Oz Davis and I created the Orville Mulligan sportswriter series, the main character was sort of a Forrest Gump like individual that went to many different sporting events.

Speaker A:

But we have a real life gentleman joining us today that wrote a book about it.

Speaker A:

His name is R.L.

Speaker A:

cubitt and he's gonna tell us about his Forrest Gump experience in the modern day sports world.

Speaker A:

RL Is up in just a moment to tell his story and more in just a moment.

Speaker B:

This is the Pigskin Daily History Dispatch, a podcast that covers the anniversaries of.

Speaker A:

American football events throughout history.

Speaker B:

Your host, Darren Hayes is podcasting from.

Speaker A:

America's North Shore to bring you the memories of the gridiron one day at a time.

Speaker A:

Hello, my football friends.

Speaker A:

This is Darren Hayes of pigskindispatch.com welcome once again to the Pig Pen, your portal to positive football history.

Speaker A:

And, and we have a great episode for you today.

Speaker A:

We're going to talk to an author who's experienced many things in the football world and he has wrote a book and jotted them down for us to enjoy and relive some of these experiences we may have watched on tv, maybe watched in person, maybe you sat right next to him.

Speaker A:

His name is R.L.

Speaker A:

cubitt and he is joining us today.

Speaker A:

R.L.

Speaker A:

welcome to the Pig Pen.

Speaker B:

Hi, Darren.

Speaker B:

Thanks for having me today.

Speaker A:

Yeah, it is a pleasure to have you on here.

Speaker A:

I, I know you've been talking with us at Sports History Network or some of our monthly meetings and really have some really exciting and fun stuff to discuss.

Speaker A:

You have a book out which, why don't you go ahead and share the title with us and where folks can get it.

Speaker B:

It's called Bleacher Kings Sports Almanac.

Speaker B:

That's with the apostrophe and you can find on Amazon or Bookbaby.

Speaker B:

If you can't find it there, just look for under the author RL Cubit ii.

Speaker B:

And then it's RL like as in right, left.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker A:

Okay, great.

Speaker A:

And folks, if you're driving or don't have a pen and pencil handy to, or can bookmark it on your phone or whatever, we will put it in the show notes of both the YouTube channel and on the podcast Show Notes.

Speaker A:

We'll get you linked into RL and his great book that we're going to be discussing today.

Speaker A:

But I guess RL before we get into that, why don't you tell us a little bit about your fandom.

Speaker A:

You mean you have a wider range of sports that are Covered by your book.

Speaker A:

We're going to be focusing in more on the gridiron portions of it.

Speaker A:

But tell us, you know, how did you get this super fandom?

Speaker B:

Well, it started when I was a little kid, actually.

Speaker B:

My mom put me in Big brothers Big Sisters.

Speaker B:

And one of the things we got to do, you know, with your big brother, Big sisters go to, like, all these games.

Speaker B:

You know, people donate tickets, and I just.

Speaker B:

We just started going to all these games, you know, like two times, three times a week.

Speaker B:

You know, my mom was sick, unfortunately, at the time with cancer, and so it's kind of one of those things.

Speaker B:

Like, it really helped me get my mind off stuff, what was going on.

Speaker B:

But, like, also it just built, like, this camaraderie with my big brother and.

Speaker B:

But just built this huge, like, fandom for me where I just love all sports, you know, because we went.

Speaker B:

I mean, baseball, football, basketball, hockey, you know, later on we did some race cars, you know, like, it just.

Speaker B:

All kinds of sports, you know, and just.

Speaker B:

Just grew my love of sports, like, to.

Speaker B:

Not just baseball, but everything, you know.

Speaker A:

I mean, that's an awesome program that, you know, organizations like Big Brothers, Big Sisters, Make a wish.

Speaker A:

Almost seems like you might have been on the verge of make a wish before they had make a Wish.

Speaker A:

Trying to help you through some trying times in your family and, you know, get your mind off it and get some good, clean fun.

Speaker A:

Watching some sporting events.

Speaker A:

That's pretty awesome that those folks are able to do that.

Speaker B:

Yeah, definitely.

Speaker B:

And, you know, I'm just trying to, you know, give my part back to, you know, I want to share this story and you let people know, hey, what's going on?

Speaker B:

Like, hey, this impacts people.

Speaker B:

This, like, makes people's lives, you know.

Speaker A:

Like.

Speaker B:

Like, hey, I mean, go donate this stuff.

Speaker B:

Kind of this stuff happens, you know, people, you know, coming out of the bright side of this stuff.

Speaker B:

So, hey, like, keep doing it.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So, I mean, what an inspiration that, you know, so many years later, you're still talking about it, writing a book about it.

Speaker A:

These great gifts that not only the organizations gave to you, but even the.

Speaker A:

The franchises that donated the tickets, I'm sure, to these organizations to get not only fannies in the seats to watch your games, but charitable and get the community of.

Speaker A:

Maybe some folks that are.

Speaker A:

Don't have the opportunities of others to.

Speaker A:

To see a ball game at a professional or college level.

Speaker A:

So that's pretty cool.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker A:

Well, we picked a couple of subjects.

Speaker A:

Some really big games, you know, you're you.

Speaker A:

You are almost like a Forrest Gump of events that have happened in there.

Speaker A:

And you, you mean you have a bunch of them in your book.

Speaker A:

And I'm not trying to diminish your book at all by having just focusing on a few of them.

Speaker A:

But we're football podcast.

Speaker A:

We want to talk about this.

Speaker A:

But folks, you will remember the majority of these if you've lived more than 40 years of on this earth and you're watching sports.

Speaker A:

So we're going to talk about a couple football events that RL attended and has a perspective of being in the stand.

Speaker A:

So why don't you go with our first one that we, we chose.

Speaker B:

First one is let's do Ricky Williams vs. Ladan Tomlinson.

Speaker B:

This is like my chapter headlines.

Speaker B:

And this was just an amazing game.

Speaker B:

It was an amazing story.

Speaker B:

This actually happened because amazing players there definitely.

Speaker B:

This is the two Texas gyms right there.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

But the game happened because there was wildfires in San Diego area and they're actually using Qualcomm Stadium as like, like a jump off point for all the medical services and stuff like that.

Speaker B:

And so they couldn't have a game there.

Speaker B:

So they moved it last second and ended up being in Tempe, Arizona at Sun Devil Stadium, which is, you know, where I was going.

Speaker B:

I was going to culinary school at the time.

Speaker B:

And so we just happened to be there, you know, roommates like, hey, you want to go?

Speaker B:

Let's go.

Speaker B:

You know, so we actually got to go see this really cool free NFL game.

Speaker B:

That was the Taglibu area era.

Speaker B:

Doubt, like, I doubt Goodell's giving away free tickets nowadays, but these were like absolutely free tickets.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker B:

And yeah, and it was kind of like, I remember walking in, like, it was kind of somber because, you know, there was like the wildfire going on, stuff like that.

Speaker B:

But like, so it was kind of like mostly like locals.

Speaker B:

But I just remember, like, the cheerless Arizona cheerleaders were out there, like, taking donations.

Speaker B:

You know, people were like, you know, giving us like, donations and helping out as much as they could.

Speaker B:

And I just remember it was just like a really cool, interesting, like, time, you know, just to be there at the stadium.

Speaker A:

So they were taking donations to hold the event.

Speaker A:

Is that that was to pay for the stadium?

Speaker B:

No, this is, this was for the wildfires going on.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

In San Diego.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

They're suffering from it.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

You probably pointed that out.

Speaker A:

I was sitting there thinking, boy, NFL, maybe they were kind of cheap.

Speaker A:

They're asking for a donation.

Speaker B:

That's really cool.

Speaker A:

you know, this is, you know,:

Speaker A:

This is kind of early on in the Internet.

Speaker A:

Do you remember how you got the tickets or how you applied for them, or was it a lottery or.

Speaker B:

I, I, I think it was just a newscast.

Speaker B:

They said on news, hey, there's free tickets.

Speaker B:

And I can't remember exactly how we got them.

Speaker B:

I just remember, like, somewhere we picked up, like in the parking lot or something.

Speaker B:

I just remember me and my roommates going in, like, walking into the game and just like, having a good time.

Speaker A:

So it wasn't like Paul Tagliabu and like a trench coat, like, opening up, hey, tickets.

Speaker B:

I hope not.

Speaker B:

I hope not.

Speaker A:

You hope you get in the gate.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker A:

Pretty cool.

Speaker A:

So let's tell us about, you know, what.

Speaker A:

There were some special things that happened in that game.

Speaker A:

What?

Speaker A:

Maybe you can share some of those with us from perspective.

Speaker B:

You saw them from, well, like, you know, part of the book.

Speaker B:

They're just saying, like, I just seen all these, like, hall of Famers, these special moments.

Speaker B:

Like, again, like, this is like a special moment in history because how many, like, I mean, there are Wildflower games, but there's not many of them, you know, and so this is kind of a big thing and, you know, got to go for free.

Speaker B:

Um, but this was like, Ricky Williams, Danny Thompson, Ricky Williams, you know, he was playing for the, for the Dolphins at the time.

Speaker B:

And then Ladanian, obviously for the Chargers.

Speaker B:

And like, I mean, these were two Titans back in the day.

Speaker B:

ming off his Pro bowl year in:

Speaker B:

And then he's going against, you know, College Football Hall Fame Ladanian Tomlinson, you know, the records for most points scored in a season, single season.

Speaker B:

You know, I mean, this is, I mean, like I said, it was two Titans.

Speaker B:

It was just amazing.

Speaker B:

Like, they honestly didn't have, like, the greatest stats that game.

Speaker B:

But it's still interesting watching them play and how they, like, maneuver and, you know, like, you know, Ricky's, you know, that bruiser, he'll come down and just, you know, punch in the mouth.

Speaker B:

And then Ladanian, I, I, the best way to put it is like, he's like a, like, he's like, you know, when there's like a penalty shot in hockey and you got that one guy, you know, swerving, he's got that foot movement and he's just like that perfect.

Speaker B:

He just, you know, just smooth as ice, man.

Speaker B:

He just.

Speaker B:

And that's how the Danian is.

Speaker B:

He just makes those cuts.

Speaker B:

He's gone.

Speaker B:

Like I said, they got different stuff, but they're really good running backs to see.

Speaker A:

These two guys were definitely stalwarts of early fantasy football, especially in that era.

Speaker A:

They were the, they were the guys you wanted to have on your team.

Speaker B:

Oh yeah, definitely.

Speaker B:

I mean, so it was just go on.

Speaker A:

Yeah, it's kind of, kind of interesting maybe, I don't know, almost poetic.

Speaker A:

You know, you have Ricky Williams who just a few years earlier, you think his NFL career is up in smoke after the brilliant.

Speaker A:

Literally and figuratively up in smoke as he leaves, you know, the big trade to get him in the draft and he leaves the Saints, goes to the CFL because of some, some personal habits that he didn't want to give up.

Speaker A:

And you know, the Dolphins take him back.

Speaker A:

He becomes a great success story.

Speaker A:

And wasn't it Ricky Williams with the Dolphins as they sort of brought the Wildcat into the NFL?

Speaker A:

Is that.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah, I remember that.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

So you know all these things back.

Speaker A:

Actually the Wildcat is shining a light back to early football with the single wing of Pop Warner and they bring the NFL and called the Wildcat or I can't remember the connection, but just kind of, kind of a lot of different storylines of football history coming into this too.

Speaker B:

Yeah, definitely.

Speaker B:

And then I mean they're there but like also, I mean that's just not everybody there.

Speaker B:

I mean like this was just an amazing game.

Speaker B:

Like besides like the two Titans of Texas, you know, you got Drew Brees, he's from Austin, kid, you know, most 5,000 yard seasons in the NFL for five.

Speaker B:

You got Quentin Jammer, you know, at UT, fifth overall pick.

Speaker B:

Zach Thomas from, you know, Texas Tech, pro in college football hall of Fame, seven time Pro Bowler.

Speaker B:

David Boston off.

Speaker B:

You remember him from Ohio State.

Speaker B:

He was real big, you know,:

Speaker B:

And then Jason Taylor, NFL record for most fumble returns for a touchdown.

Speaker B:

Junior Seow.

Speaker B:

I mean, I mean I don't think he needs much entry.

Speaker B:

You know, Brian greasy, he's like NFL commentator now.

Speaker B:

uper bowl champion, you know,:

Speaker B:

You had Patrick Certain senior, you know, three time Pro Bowler.

Speaker B:

ike Donnie Edwards, you know,:

Speaker B:

I mean there was just like so many people.

Speaker B:

I mean, I mean these, I mean if you were going to See some, you know, people live.

Speaker B:

These are it.

Speaker A:

So if folks are, maybe some of our younger viewers and listeners are sitting here scratching their heads like, how the heck is Drew Brees playing in this?

Speaker A:

You know, Drew Brees was originally a San Diego Charger and sort of got, you know, got scooted out of town because they thought they had a better option, which I don't know what they were thinking, but.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

Worked out pretty good for the Saints though, after, after that.

Speaker B:

Yeah, not too bad.

Speaker A:

Yeah, not too bad at all.

Speaker A:

And yet you got, you know, you're talking some legends, you know, junior sale, you know.

Speaker A:

Wow, dude.

Speaker A:

I can remember with San Diego, he seemed like when you watch a game with him, it was almost like a video game.

Speaker A:

Didn't matter which sideline the play was going to, but you'd have se's name getting mentioned.

Speaker A:

And I'm like going, how, how's that guy cover, you know, 53 and whatever yards across field every single play?

Speaker A:

That, that's a motor.

Speaker B:

Yeah, definitely.

Speaker B:

And this was a little bit later in his career.

Speaker B:

And so like I said, I don't think he was starting this game, but he's still, you know, he's still a major, major impact in that game, you know, so it's, yeah, it wasn't like.

Speaker A:

Old man Junior Sale, that was with the Patriots, who still played very well.

Speaker A:

You know, he's still, he's still pretty exciting player throughout his career.

Speaker B:

Definitely.

Speaker B:

It's just, it's just really cool to get to see these guys live though.

Speaker B:

I mean, and this is all like, you know, get off, off the couch.

Speaker B:

You know, if you get a chance to go see tickets or someone's got some tickets, like, go like don't, you know, do not pass go.

Speaker B:

Do not collect $200.

Speaker B:

Just go like just have a, have a fun time.

Speaker B:

Go hang out your friends, go meet some people.

Speaker B:

You know, just go to the, the ballpark.

Speaker A:

Yeah, it's interesting.

Speaker A:

Even if games don't seem that appealing.

Speaker A:

I just last weekend had the opportunity, I went down to a pit game down Pittsburgh at act and they were playing Central Michigan.

Speaker A:

So you sit there and look at it, okay, Pit versus Central Michigan, probably not going to be much of a game.

Speaker A:

You have a team that's top 40 and a team that's, you know, probably a fringe if they can play with the big boys, you know, in this Division 1.

Speaker A:

But I'll tell you what, Central Michigan gave him a game.

Speaker A:

It was a one score game in the third quarter and their kicker, or I'm sorry, their punter had a 71 yard punt, his first punt for Central Michigan.

Speaker A:

I'm like, wow, where did that come from?

Speaker A:

Of course, his next punt I think was 10 yards.

Speaker A:

So it sort of averaged back out to normalcy.

Speaker A:

But still kind of cool to see a 71 yard punt.

Speaker B:

Definitely.

Speaker B:

That is awesome because.

Speaker B:

Yeah, again, how many areas are you gonna see in your lifetime?

Speaker B:

Yeah, right, right.

Speaker A:

I never saw him before.

Speaker A:

You read about them, but you never see it when.

Speaker A:

Or see it on tv.

Speaker A:

So you.

Speaker A:

Anything else from, from that game you want to discuss?

Speaker B:

Really?

Speaker B:

Just like, it was just like, it was really just cool seeing, you know, all the story lines, you know who they became, you know who they became and you know, what happened.

Speaker B:

But like that was the majority.

Speaker B:

Just, you know, just being able to see all those stars and hall of Famers, you know, just sharing that story about the wildfire.

Speaker B:

And so.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah, that's, you know, it's kind of an amazing fact and you think, you know, it actually happens more times in our present day or the last 20 some five years than it has enormously.

Speaker A:

Because between Covid and wildfires and hurricanes, games have been displaced from their original venue to somewhere even across the country.

Speaker A:

You know, the only other thing you can think from history is During World War II, the Rose bowl was moved from Pasadena and it got taken into North Carolina.

Speaker A:

I think it's the only time except for the COVID year where the Rose bowl wasn't played at Pasadena.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

Yeah, so that's cool.

Speaker A:

You got to experience one of those handful of games that got moved.

Speaker A:

So that's really neat too.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it was really awesome.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Kind of surprise for those, those people in the locality where it gets moved to, like you said, you know, get, hey, free tickets.

Speaker A:

Let's go.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Treat the locals.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker A:

Well, you have another game that was kind of interesting and kind of, you know, if the, the wildfires were.

Speaker A:

We considered that weather related.

Speaker A:

We had sort of another weather related game that became kind of interesting, goes down in the annals of history and maybe you could share what that game was.

Speaker B:

Okay, this is my.

Speaker B:

And the book is called Monday Night Snowball Fight.

Speaker B:

And so this was Seahawks in Green Bay Monday night.

Speaker B:

And it's just pouring down snow like in Seattle.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

And just like I just love watching these games on TV and just like I was a part of one.

Speaker B:

So it's just, it's always going to be with me, always in my heart.

Speaker B:

It was just so much fun being there in the snow, not being cold.

Speaker B:

That wasn't very Fun.

Speaker B:

But like just, I mean, just the memory like is so vivid just because like it's one of those iconic moments.

Speaker B:

I mean, the last one we saw was that, remember that J.

Speaker B:

This Winston in the snow, like that Browns game, it just like, man, it's just, it's fun watching the snow games and so.

Speaker B:

But yeah, I got to be a part of one.

Speaker B:

So it was really cool.

Speaker B:

And this was like Mike holmgren and Mike McCarthy.

Speaker B:

This is, you know, when they kicked Holmgren out of town, McCarthy came into Green Bay.

Speaker B:

And so it was kind of that like, you know, back and forth, like, I still got it vers.

Speaker B:

I'm better.

Speaker B:

You know, I mean both, both men did amazing things.

Speaker B:

You know, both of them have a Super bowl win, both have amazing like coaching tree.

Speaker B:

But there's also like a lot of really cool things.

Speaker B:

Like it was Matt Hasselbeck and Brett Favre.

Speaker B:

Now I know, like growing up, like I loved watching Brett Favre just because he was just so tough.

Speaker B:

Like, I mean it didn't matter what happened.

Speaker B:

He's getting up and he's, you know, bombing the, you know, football 30, 40 yards down the field.

Speaker B:

Like, I just, I really love watching him growing up.

Speaker B:

er Ander was there, you know,:

Speaker B:

You know, Hasselback was a three time Pro Bowler, you know, Seahawks ring of honor.

Speaker B:

But yeah, far, you know, three time interval MVP, you know, and then in the most consecutive starts, 321 with the playoffs, I mean, that's.

Speaker A:

Legendary.

Speaker B:

And then, I mean, but also there was like, you know, Walter Jones was there, nine time Pro Bowler, you know, what a stud.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And then, you know, AJ Hawk, he's got a Super bowl champion in the BCS championship.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker A:

Just another talking head on the Pat McAfee Show.

Speaker A:

He's pretty talented football player once upon a time.

Speaker B:

No, and like you said, when I see him in like, you know, on TV or you know, real, it's really cool, you know, I got to actually see you play, you know, and not just like, you know, talk about or see your high, like.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So yeah, A.J.

Speaker B:

hawk was one.

Speaker B:

I saw KGB.

Speaker B:

Don't make me, please don't make me pronounce his name.

Speaker B:

But for the packers, you know, Pro Bowler, you know, packers hall of Fame.

Speaker B:

There's also a Mon Green, four time Pro Bowler, packers hall of Fame.

Speaker B:

I actually got to see him in college and NFL.

Speaker B:

In the NFL.

Speaker B:

So that was kind of cool.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker A:

Very neat.

Speaker B:

There's also.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I mean just, I said Again, just stars upon stars at these games.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's kind of because this would have been Seattle, their first year after losing the Super Bowl.

Speaker A:

ey were, against the Steelers:

Speaker A:

And that.

Speaker A:

That super bowl where Hasselbeck was starting, and I think they had the Willie Parker run and the controversial Ben Roethlisberger touchdown.

Speaker B:

Yeah, so that.

Speaker A:

I think that that was.

Speaker A:

That had to be the year after that.

Speaker A:

And I just heard an interesting thing about Matt Hasselbeck, and it was Holmgren.

Speaker A:

It was just on NFL radio the other day.

Speaker A:

wasn't the case back here in:

Speaker A:

But Hasselbeck was the.

Speaker A:

The taxi squad or the practice squad, whatever they called it back then, quarterback of the scout team for Holmgren's packers teams.

Speaker A:

And he impressed the.

Speaker A:

Whoever the defense coordinator is with packers at the time.

Speaker A:

I can't remember.

Speaker B:

He.

Speaker A:

He was complaining to Holmgren all the time.

Speaker A:

He goes.

Speaker A:

He goes, this kid's killing us.

Speaker A:

He's like, studying film, and he got this.

Speaker A:

The scout team quarterbacks just killing my starter and defense.

Speaker A:

And it's kind of depressing, and we have to have some wins in practice to have it.

Speaker A:

So Holmgren remembered that when he, you know, leaves Green Bay on whatever the terms, the negative terms like you were describing earlier, and gets the job out in Seattle, he brings this kid from his scout team in Green Bay with them and makes him a starting quarterback.

Speaker A:

So that's kind of a really cool story for these guys that don't get a lot of attention that are, you know, working their.

Speaker A:

Their tails off in practice.

Speaker B:

Yeah, definitely.

Speaker B:

Like, I mean, he had three interceptions that game, but he still, you know, he still got him to a Super bowl, so.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

Yeah, he was.

Speaker A:

He was pretty solid.

Speaker B:

Yeah, far.

Speaker B:

Had three interceptions that game, too.

Speaker B:

Like I said, the only person that had any success was Sean Alexander.

Speaker B:

He had 201 yards rushing, but, like, again, it's worn down snow, so.

Speaker A:

Well, maybe they.

Speaker A:

Maybe they were thinking about that it's better to give than receive type of time of year for, you know, who knows?

Speaker A:

So snow flying, you know, you don't know.

Speaker B:

But.

Speaker B:

Yeah, and then.

Speaker B:

But there's a couple more people there.

Speaker B:

I mean, it was like.

Speaker B:

I mean, Nate Burleson was there, you know, that CBS Morning show game analyst, you know, Max Strong, Julian Peterson, Jeremy Stevens, he was like the hometown kid in Seattle, you know, went to Lacey High, you know, from Lacey and they're in Washington.

Speaker B:

Went to University of Washington and drowned.

Speaker B:

Then drafted in the first round by the Seahawks.

Speaker B:

So like he didn't have to get.

Speaker A:

A new apartment or anything, he could just stay at home, right?

Speaker B:

No, no, he had his own problems later too.

Speaker B:

But, but yeah, like Donald Driver, you know, he's a Houston kid, you know.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Dancing with the Stars champion, you know, a four time Pro Bowler.

Speaker B:

We also had Greg Jennings, you know, packers hall of Fame, two time Pro Bowler and Bubba Franks, he's from Spring Texas, by the way.

Speaker B:

And then he's the three time Pro Bowler, 14th overall pick, you know, from the University of Miami.

Speaker B:

I mean, just like I said, studs upon studs at these games, like I got to see.

Speaker A:

So how is that okay, you being from Texas and you just described a couple these players from Texas, you know, to go into the great Northwest and have a snowstorm occur, you know, folk people from the Green Bay and I'm from the Great Lakes area, you know, I, I don't, you know, snow doesn't affect us.

Speaker A:

It's part of life and you know, changes, changes seasons.

Speaker A:

But somebody from Texas that.

Speaker A:

You guys get a lot of ice storms and stuff down every night.

Speaker A:

Snow all the time and not substantial snow where you can throw snowballs.

Speaker B:

No, no.

Speaker A:

How is that from your perspective, seeing that with snow?

Speaker B:

Well, this is when I lived in Seattle.

Speaker B:

I probably didn't preface that, but yeah, I lived in Seattle at the time.

Speaker B:

I lived there kind of like off and on a little bit for about 14 years.

Speaker B:

So like Seattle's, I'm a Texas boy, but you know, Seattle's got a big part of me.

Speaker B:

And so like I always follow Seattle like, you know, Seattle sports, what they're doing and so.

Speaker B:

But yeah, this was, I was back, I was back in Seattle for a little bit and went with like my head coaches had, or football coach in high school had like extra ticket or something and somehow or another I get going.

Speaker B:

We're there at the, at the ballpark.

Speaker B:

I remember walking up and it's just like the lights coming off the stadium, the snow dripping down and just like I just, it was just really, really cool, you know, because then you got like this, the other like Safeco some.

Speaker B:

I think it's T mobile, but it was Safeco Field, you know, there at the time.

Speaker B:

And yeah, I just remember just seeing like the, just blanket of white snow when you walk in the stadium.

Speaker B:

Just.

Speaker B:

I thought that was just so cool.

Speaker A:

Yeah, it's really cool.

Speaker A:

I was a high School football official for 27 years.

Speaker A:

snow before I started in the:

Speaker A:

And it was all, you know, all natural grass around here.

Speaker A:

And we had a couple games where one was a playoff game that, where we had snow on the field.

Speaker A:

Well, being that the, the field is, you know, green and brown and now and all the lines are white and you have white stuff all over the line, we're talking like six inches of snow.

Speaker A:

You know, something like that.

Speaker A:

We, we didn't have the, the NFL crews where they come out with shovels like the guy that shoveled for the kicker for New England, you know, they would not kick in that 90s era.

Speaker A:

And you know, we, we, we're trying to suffer.

Speaker A:

We had so many close plays where they were right near the line to gain.

Speaker A:

And when you have the line, when you're trying to measure for a first down, you're using one of those big white lines.

Speaker A:

The, you know, the headlines was coming out and putting his.

Speaker A:

The chain on has little clips on it.

Speaker A:

They put on the edge of that line.

Speaker A:

That's how you measure out.

Speaker A:

You know, you're six or seven yards away with a clip and it measures to where the ball is.

Speaker A:

We had so many times where the, the coaches are going, we need a measurement.

Speaker A:

We're like going, how the hell are we going to do a measurement?

Speaker A:

So you're trying to wing it, but yeah, good times.

Speaker A:

We had another game where it was like, I think it was at the same field, like a year later, big snow game.

Speaker A:

They had the bright idea.

Speaker A:

They said, you know what?

Speaker A:

We can't see the white lines.

Speaker A:

We're going to put over top of snow.

Speaker A:

We'll put yellow lines on top of the snow so that help the officials.

Speaker A:

It looked fantastic before the game.

Speaker A:

You could see it.

Speaker A:

Well then as players are on it and we're on it, you know, everybody's walking on it.

Speaker A:

The snow sort of melts.

Speaker A:

And these yellow lines that are, you know, 4 inches wide are like oozing into these globs of yellow like, you know, like foot or two wide.

Speaker A:

And it's became a real mess too, but fun, fun stuff.

Speaker A:

And I can definitely remember those games in the snow.

Speaker B:

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So NFL doesn't have to experience that.

Speaker A:

So that's always a good thing.

Speaker B:

Yeah, they got, they're fancy pants now, so.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

All right, so.

Speaker A:

So how did you stay for that whole game or did you get out of there early with the frigid weather?

Speaker B:

I believe I say because I think it was somewhat close and so I do believe I remember staying for the whole game, but I remember driving home.

Speaker B:

I had a four wheel drive vehicle and so like I remember driving home, there was just a lot of like banding cars on the road because like it doesn't snow in Seattle.

Speaker B:

Man, this is, this was, this was radical going on.

Speaker A:

So just rains there every day, right?

Speaker B:

Yeah, just no snow.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

And so yeah, like in Dallas or like in Texas when it rains, people can't drive in the rain.

Speaker B:

Like it's in, you know, Seattle, it snows, people can't drive in the snow.

Speaker B:

So it's just kind of one of those weird things.

Speaker B:

So yeah, I had four wheel drive luckily, but like, yeah, a bunch of banded cars and I just remember it was just dead on the road.

Speaker B:

Like there was, you know, a car here or there, but like this was just leaving a game that, you know, and there was just not a lot of people out there driving, so.

Speaker A:

Very cool.

Speaker A:

So that's a couple of your excerpts you have on, on football games, NFL games, and maybe, you know, just give us a brief view of some events that you have, you know, you don't have to be specific events, but just tell us some of the sporting events and the levels that you're covered in your book.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

So I also have like there's some baseball, football, basketball, hockey and racing football being the biggest part.

Speaker B:

You know, I just, I just got to see some really cool.

Speaker B:

I love college football too, you know, some really, you know, really great iconic college football moments as well.

Speaker B:

But then like baseball, you know, like I got to see like a perfect game in baseball.

Speaker B:

Some, you know, minor league players, like all the way through to the, you know, majors, just really cool stuff.

Speaker B:

Like for basketball I got to see real, a lot of really cool things.

Speaker B:

I was a little kid, like when I was in Big Brothers, they kind of, they gave me like passes where I go like I had courtside seats one time.

Speaker B:

I remember sitting behind like the owner at the time, camera's nail top head.

Speaker B:

But they had the big old like, you know, 10 gallon hat, you know, before Cuban.

Speaker B:

Like I can't remember his name but I remember sitting watch like seeing his hat in my view as we're watching the game.

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker B:

But these are like, you know, like the Jason kid, Jim Jackson, you know, Jamal Mashburn Harris, you know.

Speaker A:

Oh yeah.

Speaker B:

And so then seeing who they came to town, you know, like, I mean, like the Hornets came, and that was like, you know, it's Larry Johnson, you know, Mugsy Bogues, Alonzo Morning.

Speaker B:

I mean, just really cool stuff like that.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker A:

Great players.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I mean, again, that's.

Speaker B:

That's the whole thing is the whole book.

Speaker B:

It's not just one or two sections.

Speaker B:

It's the whole book.

Speaker B:

I mean, that's, you know, you really gotta go out there, experience life, you know, so.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Fantastic when you get to see some of these legends of, you know, whatever sport you're in.

Speaker A:

You know, these guys are many of them hall of Famers, all pros or, you know, NBA All Stars, you know, whatever, MLB All Stars.

Speaker A:

And you're seeing them play live, that's definitely.

Speaker A:

That's a memory to, you know, to see.

Speaker A:

Even if they didn't have the most spectacular game of their career or didn't do anything spectacular, you can sit there and say, you know, I went to a game and I saw, you know, Mike Schmidt play third base.

Speaker A:

And that's the only.

Speaker A:

Probably the only Phillies game I ever went to.

Speaker A:

They were playing the Pirates.

Speaker A:

So I went down and like, hey, I saw Mike Schmidt play.

Speaker A:

You know, now most people say, who the heck's Mike Schmidt?

Speaker A:

What a legend he was.

Speaker A:

And Johnny Bench and some of those guys that you got playing a big red machine Witness.

Speaker A:

So, yeah, he definitely sticks with you when you.

Speaker A:

Especially when you watch him as a kid, when you're very impressionable and, you know, these guys are, you know, larger than life and pretty cool to see.

Speaker A:

So what about you?

Speaker A:

Tell us again the name of your book and where folks can get it.

Speaker B:

It's a Bleacher Kings sports Almanac.

Speaker B:

And find it on Amazon or Bookbaby or if you can't find it that way, look, just under My name is R.L.

Speaker B:

cubit the Second.

Speaker A:

All right, R.L.

Speaker A:

well, we really appreciate you coming here and sharing some of your memories and pieces of your book with us and sharing much more of these memories in detail in the book.

Speaker A:

Folks, you know, there's a hint to get on the links that RL Just gave you or follow the ones we have in the show notes and YouTube notes, and we'll get you connected with RL and these great stories of football and other sports history.

Speaker A:

So, RL thanks for joining us today.

Speaker B:

Again, thank you very much, Darren.

Speaker B:

I appreciate it.

Speaker A:

That's all the football history we have today, folks.

Speaker A:

Join us back tomorrow for more of your football history.

Speaker A:

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Speaker A:

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Speaker B:

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Speaker A:

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