In a rare interview, former Nottingham Forest and England defender Des Walker talks exclusively to pod host Marcus Alton.

The entertaining conversation includes some great Cloughie memories, including the amusing stories about the first time Des met the Miracle Manager and why Brian always referred to the centre-half as 'Desmond.'

In this fascinating insight into the life of one of England's greatest defenders, Des also talks about memories of his mum plus how he used to play football in the garden with his sons Tyler and Lewis when they were schoolboys.