On this week’s episode of Extra Serving, a podcast by Nation’s Restaurant News, managing editor Leigh Anne Zinsmeister, editor-in-chief Sam Oches, and senior food and beverage editor Bret Thorn talk about the latest drink trend sweeping the nation. Adding cream to sodas is not a new concept, but in their current form, dirty sodas certainly feel new and exciting and they’re trending in large part thanks to Utah-based Swig. The editors talk about why.

Then, they turn their attention to Panera Bread. Last week, the company unveiled what executives call its “biggest menu transformation in history,” but there may be more than meets the eye. The editors talk about some other changes going on behind the scenes at the brand, and why they’re not all good news.

Finally, Oches talks about the Restaurant Leadership Conference, coming up in April.