When transplants move to Greenville, South Carolina, they often find a beautiful city but struggle to find connection. Enter Hunter Patrick, a former geometry teacher turned real estate agent who engineered an unconventional solution to urban loneliness. In this conversation, Hunter reveals his deliberate approach to building happiness in a city of strangers, sharing how his community has grown from casual meetups to holiday celebrations and lasting friendships. Discover why he left teaching, how he's applying lessons from his college days to create meaningful connections, and why being kind might be the strongest thing you can do.

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What You'll Learn:

• Why traditional social groups might be limiting genuine connections
• How to intentionally build community in a city of transplants
• The relationship between kindness and strength in leadership
• Why specific hobby groups often miss the mark on connection
• The power of giving people your undivided attention
• How to maintain authenticity while pursuing growth
• Ways to balance risk-taking with personal values

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Links referenced in this episode:

• PushToBeMore.com
• podjunction.com
• Hunter's Email - hunter.t.patrick@gmail.com

Companies mentioned in this episode:

• Push to Be More
• Podjunction
• Greenville Happiness

Well, hello and welcome back to Push to Be More. I'm your host, Matt Edmundson. And we're going to get into another one. Yes, we are.

Another great conversation about what it means to push to be and what more looks like. Push to be more. And to do that, we are going to be chatting with Huntra. Huntra? No, we're not.

Hunter Patrick, let me get his name right, from the Greenville Happiness community.

We're going to be diving into his life, his unique experiences, the hurdles he has had to push through, how he recharges his batteries and what more looks like we're going to be getting into that whole thing.

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So we're going to find out all about it. We're going to hear about, well, real estate in Greenville, South Carolina, no doubt. We're going to be having some fun.

Hunter, welcome to the show, man. Great to have you. Oh, let me say, actually, big shout out to Jon Antonucci who connected us.

He, he's, he was like, matt, you really need to get Hunter onto the show. So John's a great guy, friend of the show, and I'm just like, well, okay, Jon, if you say so. Let's do it, man. Let's get you on.

And so I'm stoked you're here, bro.

How are you doing today, Matt?

Good. Well, you know, I don't know how you answer that question, Hunter, when people ask you that question, I have a standard answer. Okay.

Which I've had to change recently. I'll tell you what I used to say and then I will tell you what I now say.

So I would used to, I used to say to people who would ask me that question, depending on obviously who they were, you know, I would say, well, you've got to be doing all right when you're this good looking. Okay. Because it's just one of those sort of shocking answers and people are, oh, that's interesting.

But my wife has instructed me to say, you've got to be doing all right when I'm married to the woman that I am married to. And so I'm doing really well because of my beautiful wife. And so, yes, no, it's, it's, I'm doing super well, thank you for asking.

I don't know if those answers help you in any way.

Exact same thing here.

And why not? Why not? Well, before we get into it, let's start with our first big question that I like to ask everybody at the start of the show.

Like I said a few seconds ago, this show is sponsored by the wonderful Podjunction, which specializes in helping people set up and launch their own podcast to grow their own business. I've said that so many times, I'm getting way too fast at saying it.

I'm very sorry, Podjunction, but the question we like to ask is if you had your own podcast, Hunter, if you could set up a podcast and you could have anybody as a guest on your show, those that are alive, those that have passed away past or present makes no odds. The only requisite is they've had to have a big influence on your life. Who would be your number one guest and why?

My number one guest would be Mr. Rogers.

Mr. Rogers, as in Roy Rogers?

Fred Rogers. Okay, so big former children's television host for a TV show. And the his greatest strength is one that we never hear often of, and that's kindness.

I he is as big as he is because he was kind, because everyone loved him. He had a great heart. And that's not really something that you hear a lot of.

I don't know much about politics around the world, but in the United States, kindness is not really something seen much nowadays. And so many people looking up to him in a world now that kindness is so easily mistaken for weakness.

I'd love to know, how can you be so kind through it all and how can you keep helping the world grow through that?

That is a great answer. That is a really great answer.

And I'm fascinated by this because, you know, people come on the show and I've had a lot of different answers to this question. So I'd like to speak to my dad. Maybe he passed away when they were younger or whatever. You know, this.

And I think all the answers are obviously very legitimate, but the thing I like about them is they're all deeply personal. So why is kind the topic that resonates deeply with you?

As said, the world can be a very harsh place. And I think about how I personally would like to be treated in the world.

And above all, I mean, I love to be respected, I'd love to be praised, I'd love to all these nice, positive things, but I'd ultimately love to meet someone and just be treated like an equal. Be treated, kind. I taught for five years the luxurious life of a geometry teacher.

And okay, what stuck to me the most for all the students I ever taught were those that were kind to me, kind to others and all.

I feel the students respected me so much more when I was not yelling at them, when I was not nitpicking everything they did, but when I treated them like an actual person because I would say they're, I mean, they're younger than me, little people, but most of them were twice my height, far deeper voice.

But ultimately when I just traded them like just anyone else and said, hey, send my thank you, send my pleases, they respected that so much so that they've said no other teachers really treated them that way. And now that I don't say I'm in the real World. But I'm not dealing with teenagers on a daily basis.

I've realized those just basic skills taught all the way back in elementary school, primary school, they're how prominent they are today. Just everywhere I go.

That's really interesting. That's really interesting. It's one of those things, kindness is one of those topics that I think is, is.

I, I don't know, I, I'm just racking my brain now trying to think of when the last good conversation we had about this topic was, you know, kindness. It's not one of those things that I've heard talked about a lot. I think it's a very important topic and I think being kind is very important.

What does, what does kindness though look like to you? You say you wanted to be sort of, you wanted to be treated kind. You obviously with the kids, you, you were kind to them.

But what does kindness look like in the real world?

Kindness can be something as simple as just looking someone in the eye and treating them with respect, treating them like an equal knots, going out, getting out your phone and just content. Hold on. Okay, sorry, I got text. Not constantly looking at your phone because that's what so many conversations are now in this phone era.

So many things are just people distracted on their phone, distracted with this, distracted with that, headphones in them, giving you the finger to hold up. Let me finish something. It's. Kindness is giving someone what we have so little of in life and that's time.

That's a really. Giving. What we have so little of which is time is kindness. Yeah, I see that. I see that.

Because we do live in a world where actually it is quite attention grabbing in so many ways. Everything's seeking for our attention. So your attention seems to be a more and more valuable commodity, doesn't it?

And being generous with your time then seems to be kind. And I think it also stems to what you said a second ago with that's how you want to be treated, right?

So I think as human beings we all want to be treated with kindness. Whether that means that we are all kind people I think is an interesting one, isn't it? But I would say yes, I totally agree.

Being generous and caring, especially with your attention, is part of what kindness is because you're saying to the person in front of you, actually you're important and you matter right now more than this text message on my phone, really, which I think is quite lovely actually. And yeah, how do we bring kindness back? I actually about a month ago started writing, writing and writing.

I can't talk today started writing an article about what kindness looks like in business.

I was intrigued by, especially E Commerce, which is, you know, where I operate and actually how kindness, random acts of kindness can have a big impact on your, on your business's bottom line. But you've obviously seen it work well in teaching. You obviously saw the impact on the kids it had when you were kind. Right.

It's also such a tricky thing trying to balance kindness and strength. Because when teaching, some students could easily mistake kindness for okay, he's weak, he can't do this, he can't do that.

When in reality, being kind is probably one of the strongest things anyone can do. Just needs to be consistent and keep with the good values that students need, the discipline.

And how do you balance that for helping someone grow to be better but still treat them the way they deserve? It's one of the most valuable skills, but also probably one of the hardest skills anyone can master.

Yeah, yeah, I can see that. And actually that I don't know of any. I mean, talk about, you know, the concept on weakness.

I don't know actually of many leadership books, you know, business books, many. Those style of books which say actually one of the things you really need to strive to do every day is to become more kind.

And maybe it should, you know, maybe it should.

I'm curious, is this why you set up last year the community which said we said in the intro it brings people together to foster happiness, meaningful connection. Is that the sort of story behind.

That kind of yes and no.

I can, I don't want to just start talking for about 20 minutes non stop without hearing you as well, but I can just go through a quick rundown about what everything is and just some origins and all of that. It goes way back to when I was in college or way way back when I was just in regular school. So pre college, my dream was to be a writer.

That's what I wanted to do. I wanted to write the stereotypical great American novel. And I was in high school and I'm like, I think I have the skills to write, but I don't.

What I don't have the skills for is I don't have a girlfriend. And that was important to me. So I took French in high school thinking that'll be the thing that'll get me a girlfriend. It didn't.

So I went to college to be a writer, but I'm still like, I still don't have a girlfriend. So I started majoring in French and when I majored in French, did I realize I can't really speak French, so I started struggling with that.

But I bring that up because I still wanted a girlfriend. So in college, I created a group where I'm like, okay, people, like kind people, so what should I do?

And I'm like, I can create a group all about building positivity. It was eight, nine years ago. I was in college and I created this positivity club. It was just a club in high school or club in college.

Not anything too, too crazy. But what I realized quickly was I was trying to bring positive attributes.

This wasn't just to get a girlfriend, obviously, but it was to better myself so I could be the ideal person, not for anyone else, but for me and for this positivity group. What I noticed quickly was the people that attracted.

We had the stereotypical loners who liked absolutely no one, some of the stereotypical goth people. And then we had the sorority girl. We had the popular. We didn't have a football team, but the popular athletes.

And we had a good mix of every specific branch of people, and they all came together for a common goal. And I'm like, okay, this is interesting. And I talk to them and they're like, we need positivity in life. We need positivity in life. And I love that.

That was probably the thing I was most proud of, excluding, of course, marrying my wife. And yeah, probably what I'm most proud of was creating that group in college. Fast forward. I wanted to be a French teacher. That didn't work out.

I became a math teacher for five years. I was absolutely miserable.

And I made a career transition into being a real estate agent, because that was probably besides writing and public speaking. One of my biggest dreams in life is to be a realtor. I made the switch and I realized I had a lot more free time on my hands.

And I'm like, well, what should I do with this free time? I think back to college with my positivity club and how happy that made me and how happy it made others.

And I'm like, well, first off, I'm not in college anymore. I'm in very large. I won't say it's a large city, Greenville, but it's a good sized city. But I'm like, okay, that's.

Maybe there's something I can work with. Maybe there's not really anything like that. But dealing with positivity is not really something I felt was good for my life at that moment. When I.

When. I don't know about you, but when I hear the word positivity, for some reason, one of the first things I think of is the word toxic in front of it.

I don't know why my mind goes to toxic positivity, but that's just a big thing where being positive's a great thing, but I just don't think that's what anyone needs. And I'm like, well, what's around those lines? And I'm like, well, what do I do? What's my goal in life?

If someone sat me down and they said, hunter, what would you like to do for the rest of your life? I'm like, I just want to be happy in life. That's all I want to do. And I talk to anyone.

And if you get down to the root of all of their problems, all while they do everything they do, they said, I want to be happy. I want this person to be happy. I want this person to be happy.

And I'm like, well, positivity, happiness, they're close enough, but not quite the same thing. So I'm like, let's start. Let's go with happiness. And so a big part is I now had time.

I had some experience in college trying to create something, but I also saw that the world's not a happy place right now, unfortunately. And I hear stories of, oh, things were so much happier back then.

I'm not going to say when back then is, because everyone always says back then, but even here, back then, people would say things were just happier further back. It was always prior. People were happier, prior this, prior that, and just seemed like so many people were pushing away their happiness.

And I didn't want that. I did not want to. The group is a very selfish thing because in my mind, I'm trying to give others what I'd like for myself.

And I think, selfishly, what would make me happy is social connection. And I can go very in depth on what the group does. But long story short, about whether that's fascinating.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm. I'm intrigued because it's. Listening to you talk. I'm thinking you're right. Actually. Everybody says they were happier times back then. Right.

And so I grew up in the 80s, 70s and 80s, kid, which means everybody talked about how they were happier times in the 50s, you know, the decade after the war, the boomer generation and all that sort of stuff. I grow up and I talked to my kids, and I go, man, the 80s were just good fun. I. You know, and that was.

And what fascinates me actually, as you're talking is the amount of us as people that say that the past was happier than the present but were anxious about tomorrow. Do you see what I mean? It's the. It's kind of reversed rather than hope would probably dictate that they were good days yesterday.

And in front of me there's going to be a mixture of good days and bad days. Hopefully though, the good days will be better than the good days that we've experienced it.

Actually there is a hope for the future, but actually putting happiness into the past and leaving it there, I think is a little bit self sabotaging. But I can understand why people say that the past was happy.

And I don't know whether there was partly because I was a kid, like I said, zero responsibilities really, whether the world was a different place.

I mean, you know, you talk about how social connection gives you happiness, but at the same time, social connection, as in social media, is probably the biggest source of unhappiness for, for many, many people on the planet, I would have thought. I mean, I'm a psychologist, I can tell you what I read.

But so it's interesting how you sort of find yourself in this sort of quandary of, you know, sort of where we're at, where we've been understanding what it is you want. And so you decide to set up a happiness community, which I, I'm really fascinated by.

I mean, so people would obviously come because they want to maybe be happier, maybe be more fulfilled, I'm guessing. So without, you know, spending too long on it. Just give us one thing that you guys do in the community that sort of creates that.

My favorite thing that I try to do, I'm going to be very, very, very general here and that's to just form the social connections.

Because yes, with social media and all that, it's so as you're kind of touching upon, things are so contradictory where you'll think, oh yeah, being online makes people happier. It's not where I live. Greenville. It's a great place, especially being a real estate agent, because so many people are moving to Greenville.

They move north, south, east, west. Everyone wants to move to Greenville. But the problem is everyone's a transplant. No one is from Greenville.

We had a group event the other day and one guy came to the meeting and he introduced himself saying, show of hands, who's from Greenville? And he's like, I'm a native, I'm a native. And he was proud of that, and he's proud because no one's a native to Greenville.

And when everyone starts moving to all these places, the problem continues to be they don't really have anyone with them. They could have a spouse, they could have kids, they could have a parent, but they don't have that home base.

They don't have that group of friends, family, nothing.

Looking up what makes people happiest, looking up all the studies, all the books, all the podcasts, one, I guess two words keep popping up over and over and over again that people say is the key to happiness, and that's social connection. Having those roots and the fact that so many people are even from Greenville. So many people don't have those roots. And so the biggest.

My favorite thing we do, which I'm just talking in the broadest sense, is trying to build those connections for people, because almost no one is from Greenville. Almost no one knows other people. And being able to go somewhere, meet someone, and building those bonds. We had a member, her name's Pam.

For Thanksgiving Day, she hosted a bunch of people from the group. Another member named Carmenza, she hosted Christmas Day. For members of the group.

We've already had members celebrate holidays together because no one. They might not have had a place to go, but that's. They built their family, they built their own support.

That is, at least in my opinion, what happiness is all about.

It's interesting. Is it because I. I'm thinking, I. I mean, I. I've. I live in the. In the uk. I don't live in the States.

I used to live in North Carolina for a little while. Not too far from where you are right now. But I.

If I go back in time and you went to a different place, like, I've traveled a lot and I've gone to different cities, and I've had to build things in different cities. Right. In the uk, you would go to one or two places when you moved into a new town.

You would either go to the church or you would go to the pub, or you would go to both. Right. And you would find community there. And the perb culture in the UK is all but gone compared to what it was for various different reasons.

Church attendance, certainly in the traditional churches, seems to be declining. I mean, you could argue whether church attendance is declining. We've had those conversations.

But it seems to be that there is a void in the mechanism for social connection. Right. Because people are not going to the church, people are not going to the pub. They're not going, you know, they go into big.

They're not even going to the big shopping malls anymore either. Everyone's buying everything online. So you're not even going to the local shop.

You know, I, the village I grew up in, I knew who, who owned all the shops. You know, who the butcher was, the greengrocer, you know, the news agent.

We, I would go in those stores and I would know them by name and they would know me by name. And it's, and that's a really important part that you're saying actually, because that, that's part of the community that's missing, isn't it?

It's just that I don't see that much these days. Everyone sort of lives their own life, you know, in their own sort of self contained bubble, rightly or wrongly.

It's not a judgment, it's an observation. And, and I'm intrigued that you've sort of put two and two together here and gone.

Well, actually, social connection is super key to, to happiness, which I would firmly advocate. So let's create opportunity for social connection.

Thank you. Yes. And I, I'm glad you brought up both church and pub because both of those are, those are great places to meet people.

But yeah, people just aren't doing that here.

And even for those people who go to church, I don't want to necessarily start a church because then that alienates everyone who doesn't necessarily follow the specific religion. And we have people, lots of people in our group do not drink. A lot of people in our group might not follow the same religion.

We have people from 20s all the way through. I don't want to guess anyone's age.

But yeah, they're listening now, so be careful.

Yeah, we have a wide range of ages and that to me was important. I see some social groups online, but a lot of these social groups are so oddly specific. Like, oh, we're big fans of biking, let's just bike.

Oh, we love hiking. And I see these very specific things that people really love and I'm like, I don't, I want.

If you go to a family reunion, what are the odds that everyone in your family loves the exact same thing? That's great for you to have a specific hobby, but you're not going to necessarily marry someone who is the exact same person as me. And that's.

I wanted something a bit broad for that sin so we could get all these different opinions and we could discover life like a true family together.

Yeah, no, it's great. It's great. So along the way, Hunter, you've done college, you've got married, you've not enjoyed your maths career.

You know, you're now into real estate. What's the biggest challenge that you sort of had to work through?

I did not care for teaching at all. And people ask me all the time, what was wrong with teaching? Was it other parent? Was it other teachers, parents, students, administration?

I was at easily, hands down, my dream high school to work at. I turned down another job opportunity that was better high school because I'm like, this is it. This is my dream school.

I did not want to work anywhere else. And it was a great. This would have been a dream for so many teachers.

And I realized early on in teaching in there, if I was not happy at my best teaching job, the problem was me.

And the biggest struggle I fought is just trying to come to terms with who I am and come to terms with going over the hurdles and taking the scary steps. Because I was in.

I mean, I was not really living a luxurious life as a teacher by any means, but I was living a safe life and I enjoyed the safety net of teaching with a very steady income. I was enjoying a lot of steadiness, like, oh, I knew what to expect every day. Oh, this is what Life didn't have surprises. And that I was enjoying.

But the trouble came in March. I got married and I was so, so happy with my wife, and she knew how much I hated teaching.

And I came back the day from our honeymoon, and I realized and thought about it. I'm like, this is not how I start a family. This is not how I'm not happy.

And my being unhappy is not just going to hurt me, but I'm going to bring that home to my wife. And that's not how I start a marriage. My wife deserves better. And the biggest struggle is talking to her.

Her encouraging me to take the risky step of leaving a steady job for real estate, which is so very unsteady. And biggest hurdle is just coming getting out of my mind and trying to see different possibilities and taking those risks.

Listening to my wife, who turns out she's almost always right, hopefully she didn't hear that, but hearing they all know.

It, Hunter, all our lives know it. It's just a given fact.

But hearing that, listening to her and taking those risky steps and just telling myself it's better to live in the unknown than live in my own personal hell. And that's probably the biggest, hardest step I've ever had to do, is just getting out of my own head and taking that leap.

Any regrets?

I was thinking last night about where I was a year ago versus where I am today. I might not be teaching. I might not have that teaching paycheck, but I'm so happy.

I don't remember this last Christmas was probably the happiest I've ever felt since maybe middle school. I can see that I am helping so many people right now. I'm helping myself. I'm getting to be on a podcast just as yours.

I've been listening to it and I'm like, this is a very big deal that you get to do this and all the guests you have and that I'm here now. This is something I could only dream of. I don't think I would ever have a single regret for the life I have now versus the life I had then.

Well. Well, that's good. It's a. Usually a very good sign. So you got married in March. Did I hear that right? March 24th. Well, congratulations.

Thank you.

That's awesome. So you're 10 months married at the time of recording. How's that going?

Still married. That's good. Where it's going? Well, I've been with my wife. We were engaged for four years. I've been dated for three.

And so we're approaching being together for eight years. And this one year married, I did not think things could get better than what they could. And my wife proved me wrong yet again.

This has been such a phenomenal 10 months with her. And both of us strive so hard, knowing we've never been married for say, 30, 40 years, but knowing so many couples just stop trying.

And so we're trying.

We're not trying to overdo things, but we're trying to make sure that we can keep showing each other love, showing each other appreciation, and really build those strong founding building blocks. And it's been great just seeing someone who supports me the way she does. And I can tell that I can, that she sees how much I love and appreciate her.

Being married to her has just been undeniably the greatest blessing in my life.

That's lovely to hear. Lovely to hear. I get it. You know, I've seen a lot of people get married over the years and I've seen a lot of people get divorced over the years and.

And it's always a shame. And you know, there are many reasons for it. But I love what you said, you know, we people stop trying and they either live with that or they don't.

But I think for me, the secret to a happy marriage is to court your wife.

It's old fashioned language is actually to, you know, like when you were dating, you would do things, you would, you would chase her, you would make her feel unique and special. You would, you would court her. It was a very old fashioned word and I love it. You caught your wife. That's what you do.

Which takes effort and it takes intentionality. And I think, yes, it changes as you get older. We've been married 27 years this year, so a good old chunk of time.

And I think my, I, I would say my marriage is in a much stronger place now than when we first got married. And super grateful for my wife, you know, like you just super blessed as a result of my wife. But it's, it's not automatic, is it, marriage?

And I, and I think that you do have to try and you do have to keep putting the effort in.

And when you stop putting the effort in, and that's usually a sign, not that it's over, but that maybe you need to redress your thinking a little bit. You know, it's that kind of, that kind of thing. I know you do the, the social connection, that's obviously one of the things that makes you happy.

But what else do you do, Hunter, to sort of recharge your batteries to fill your tank, as it were? What, what's your, what does that look like for you?

I recently joined Toastmasters.

I don't know how big that is in the uk, but just a place for me to go practice public speaking because that's a big love of mine and that's been absolutely great. I've been having time of my life there and it's recharging me in the sense. Yes, that's.

I have to be charged to do a lot of that stuff, that it's recharging in the fact that I get to feel like I can be myself and recharge who I am as a person, if that kind of makes sense. Sense. I love taking long walks on the beach. I love sipping on pina coladas and you know, just to have. I do enjoy walking.

Walking's probably the biggest way I refresh. I remember I was in elementary school and I just love to walk and pace and I had a family member and they're like, what are you doing?

I'm like, I'm taking a walk. And this is how I recharge. And they're like, you're eight. What do you have to recharge on but walking?

I am someone of a specific age group, so I do enjoy video games. I love to read comic books. I'm also someone of a specific age, but read various leadership books that I'm a big fan of.

Biggest thing is to try to get out of my head and learn and grow into being a better person. Those are my biggest ways that I like to recharge.

Yeah, I think it's an interesting statement, isn't it, that you, that actually some people are just so busy, all they want to do is sit on the couch and watch Netflix. But there's something about doing something that challenges you and helps you learn and helps you grow, which I find deeply rewarding.

And, and it doesn't even have to be related to work. So I, you know, I've mentioned on the show a few times I, I really like woodwork.

You know, I, I have a little wood shop and I'm often tinkering in that, you know, as my downtime and, but pushing myself in terms of learning, learning new techniques, trying new things, doing new things. That's all part of the enjoyment, you know, And I think it's, it's a wonderful thing to have. So what does growth look like for you?

What does more look like? If you could get out your crystal ball and look at five years time, what's the achievements?

I love the word growth. I love growing. Talked about for my happiness group, a big thing is belonging. Another big thing for us is growing.

And to me, growing, that progression of being better and better helps happiness so much when you know that you're heading to a specific direction in five years time. To me, perfect growth would be a bigger happiness group. Maybe not in terms of numbers, but in terms of what people have gotten out of it.

My real estate. I haven't talked much of being a real estate agent, but that's something that I've been wanting to do for so long. And growth there is about.

In where I am, 20% of real estate agents make it. I'm already doing better than other people around my same time. But growth is, I'm still in the game.

I'm still not only part of the game, but I'm still buying, selling, I'm doing all that stuff. I'm still working in real estate. I have talked about public speaking. I love public speaking, doing something like that.

If being a part of a podcast like this five years down the line, that would be me growing into someone and going back to the start of the conversation, being kind, not losing who I am. I feel when people I know, you can read books on this. It's in a lot of film documentaries.

The more successful someone does, the more they lose themselves. The more they are no longer authentic to who they are, the less kind they are.

Keeping who I am now, but having just different success criteria, as I mentioned, progressing, growing, and staying who I am. That, to me, is just the ideal success scenario in five years.

Wonderful. I think we could all attest to something like that, Hunter. I really do. I'm aware of time so quickly. I'm going to refer to the question box.

Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. So I'm going to flick through the questions. Hunter, you're going to tell me when to stop. Where you. Where you say stop.

That's the question I'm going to ask you. So let's go for it.

Stop.

Okay, so we have the question in the deck. What is the worst thing that could happen to you?

The worst thing that could happen to me. I want to say death, but not death as in a literal death of me dying in a car crash. Worst thing that could happen to me is death of who I am.

Death of my personality, my hopes, my dreams. Death of giving up. Like talking. We talked about relationships and how we have to keep working on them.

Mm.

But it's death of me not wanting to keep working on myself. And that's something I strive to never let happen. I make sure that I always hit the gym five days a week. I make sure I read as often as I can.

I take time for my wife. I call my wonderful parents several times a week. I call, I do all. Everything that I need to. Worst thing is just losing all hope in anything.

That's a really powerful answer to the question. Really powerful. Hunter. Listen, it's been great to chat to you, man.

If people want to reach out, if they want to connect you, maybe they're in Greenville, South Carolina.

Don't know how many listeners we have in Greenville, South Carolina, but if you are in the Greenville, South Carolina area and would like to know more about the group, maybe, or even talking to you about real estate, what's the best way to reach you?

Best way is definitely to find me on LinkedIn. Hunter T. Patrick. That should be in the show notes.

I believe it will be in the show notes.

Yep. You can also reach me through email. It's hunt H u n t dot t dot PATRICK gmail dot com.

That's the email address I use to find anything for inquiries with my group or just things in general. But those are probably the very best ways. Just message me on there and I'd love to. If you're in the area, grab a coffee sometime.

Or if you're not in the area. Do something like what we're doing at. No, Matt, just going. Doing something virtually like this.

And I'd love to just talk to you about everything that we do and just anything discussed.

Fantastic, fantastic.

Well, like you said, we will of course link to your information in the show Notes, which if you're listening the podcast on a podcast player like Apple Podcasts or Spotify, we just scroll down because usually on your phone you can click the links there. Of course, they will be on the website, on the podcast episode page. Just go to Push to be More.

Search for Hunter Patrick and you will find this episode page with the notes, transcript and all that sort of stuff with all the links as well. You can get them at Push to be more dot com. So, Hunter, listen, man, it's been brilliant, brilliant talking to you. I've really enjoyed it.

Thank you so much for joining us. And we were talking before we hit the record button. This is actually the first podcast you've done. How was it for you?

Wish I was on a different one. It was great. It's a great, great experience. Thank you, Matt. Now you hear some podcasts host and they're just. They would rather do be doing any.

Anything else.

And it seems like you truly want to be here and I appreciate all the time and energy you put into this podcast itself and everything else that you've done with Push to Be More so.

Oh, bless you. Thank you. Well, no, it's been great having you on. I was. I just loved your answer. No, actually, Matt, I. You should have said Hunter.

Well, the first podcast, I thought I was great, but you as a host could really do some work. Yeah, brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. And to listen, thank you for coming on, man. It's been great. And let me do the. Do the huge round of applause.

There we go. Yes, it's been great having you on. Huge. Thanks. Also for today's show sponsor, Pod Junction.

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Have a phenomenal week wherever you are in the world. I'll catch you next time, but until then, keep pushing and bye for now.