Welcome to a special offshoot of the Reality Playbook: Grounded in Reality. Here, my finance bestie, Vida A., and I take headlines, viral stories, and social media crash-outs and break down the verifiable facts. Our goal is to impact the world by centering reality over conflated and creative narratives that perpetuate chaos on the internet.

1. Dak Prescott & fiance Sara Jane call it quits
2. Dwight Howard & His Estranged Wife
3. Lakers' Luka Dončić reveals he's separated from fiancée, in a custody battle for daughters
4. Magic City Night Cancelled

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Hi, Vida.

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Hi Alana.

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Well welcome all to our special

offshoot of the Reality Playbook.

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It's called Grounded in Reality, where

we take headlines, viral stories,

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and all the social media crash outs

and like we wanna break 'em down and

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just get verified, get fact checked.

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Just kind of figure out what is really

the underlying story that is maybe

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being conflated to the nth degree.

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I don't know.

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What do you think?

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I agree.

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We, let's get down to

the verifiable facts.

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Our hope is that we can impact the world

and give more facts of the reality rather

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than confusion and creative stories.

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I feel like I'm in my therapist's

like office talking about, um.

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Catastrophe.

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Like, like the, what is it, like

the eight Cs of like, you know,

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like, I'm like, don't catastrophize,

don't think it's either or,

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you know, like we're, I'll give

you a link, people for that.

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Uh, but yeah.

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So we have a few stories from this

week that just run the gamut between

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sports, reality, TV and pop culture.

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So let's start it off, let's start off

with some hot stories about the sports.

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And it's not necessarily how

sad I am that Philadelphia lost

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four amazing players yesterday.

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It's actually about one of our rivals.

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Oh wow.

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Quarterback of Dallas Cowboys.

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That's a rival to the Eagles.

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Uh, go birds.

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Uh, Dak Prescott was actually

supposed to get married.

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To his, the woman who's his, the mother,

his two children, her name's Sarah

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Jane, and it all like hit T-M-Z-T-M-Z.

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Uh, apparently published the

email that they sent to their

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guests that to cancel the wedding.

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Apparently the wedding was supposed to

be in at Lake Como, and I'm like, dang.

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Ah, that feels bad.

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So it feels bad everyone, of course.

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So they, so the two of them, um,

they were, they did a joint bachelor

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and bachelorette party in Jamaica.

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My understanding is they came back

and I called it quits and they

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had like a blow up fight there.

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So, right.

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That's what I'm understanding.

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Right.

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And so Exactly.

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Put a pin there.

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Just put a pin right there.

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Okay.

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Um, and so then, but everybody's

like, well, what happened

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that y'all are now broken up?

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And so there's a couple

of theories running amuck.

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One of them was just,

that was about the money.

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And then Sarah Jane came out and

said, look, my family has money.

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I got my business.

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It's not about the money.

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I'd sign a prenup, whatever.

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Sure.

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A, it was reported earlier today

that it was, that the issue wasn't

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necessarily the money, but wanting to

be acknowledged more in the prenup.

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Like that they like the, the

contributions that she's made.

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However, page six came through

like it always does with some tea.

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Page six, allegedly there was an ultimatum

that was given in January about, uh, Dak,

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um, and his out here in the streets ways.

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And so allegedly there's

been some infidelity.

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She said, call it like,

we gotta cut this out.

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And something happened.

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Clearly something happened in Jamaica

to make her feel some type of way.

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Right.

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And so.

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Hearing other podcasts.

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I only have heard one other

podcast talk about the story.

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And they didn't, they thought that Dak

was like holier than thou Christian Guy

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doesn't, wouldn't step out on his girl.

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But you know, that's, that, that

doing a bachelor and bachelor party

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sets set my atten a antenna off

and I didn't wanna be that person.

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Mm-hmm.

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But when I see a joint bachelor

and bachelorette party, one

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of two things is happening.

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Hmm.

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The couple are like,

they're, they're boring.

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They know they're boring, they're

old, they are like, they don't care.

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They just, they wanna be married, but they

don't like, it doesn't, they don't care.

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They, it's whatever

they, they're whatever.

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The other reason to do a joint

bachelor and bachelor party is

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because you don't trust the other one.

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Their party.

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Right.

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So I just spoke a lot.

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I wanna, um, offer it to you just,

you know, grounding this whole thing

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and some level of just opinions,

truth, some, uh, we just wanna make

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sure that we, we, let's talk just

generally, but also about the situation.

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Um, of course, of course.

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Yeah, of course.

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So, um, yeah, questions about

the, about the guest that decided

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that they were going to sue.

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Make a few dollars, you know,

share this story with TMZ.

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Wow girl, Sarah Jane, talking

through a lot of people, honey.

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Okay.

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You know what, if that's what it is,

then you know, so long as the couple

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has agency over their messaging and, you

know, if it means that they are using

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their friends as their little birds.

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In order to get their

message across, I guess.

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Um, but goodness, I, I would

really hope that no one would

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violate the couple in such a way.

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Um, but as far as the alleged infidelity,

um, I think that there are a lot

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of things that are going on here.

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The first is the ultimatum.

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You know, just going to that, the

fact that this woman, if there was an

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ultimatum out there, that she wanted to

find a way to bring the family together.

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I, I can mend the effort, but

I do have questions about what,

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how far is too far, right?

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How much is too much?

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Most, especially when.

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You're trying to enter into a marriage

where you're not equally yolked as

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it's, and I think that we've gotten

to a point where coming in and out of

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marriage is, is a very easy thing to do.

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The way that I've seen it, just

kind of like in my day, it feels

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as if that marriage has become

the new level of going steady.

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And that sacrament of getting and

going into marriage has just been

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steady, watered down, going steady.

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Because when I was in, in high

school, I wasn't allowed to date.

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And that's a, that's a whole

different conversation about

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dating and what that teaches.

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And, and, you know, I, I

just wasn't allowed to date.

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So there's good and bad, but

some of my classmates were

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in and out of relationships.

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And I do remember one of them

who I think over the course of.

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A four year period had maybe like six

different boyfriends, and I thought, wow.

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Um, you know, tasting all

the flavors of the rainbow.

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And, and, and that's good for her.

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I think that she's a woman who

is married and you know best to

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know what it is that you want.

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Okay.

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I love that.

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I love that take right best to

know what it is that you want.

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Yes, exactly.

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And sometimes I, I like that.

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I like that take.

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Right.

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I think that's grounded in truth.

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And it's very, it's a

very positive statement.

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Right.

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I thank you.

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Thank you.

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I, and I think that we all know that

whatever it is that we do end up

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wanting it is because of a process,

process of elimination, of figuring

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out what it is that we don't want.

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And so all of that to say that that

testing ground, that dating is,

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it's supposed to be there right

when someone gets into marriage.

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I, I think that it takes the edge

off having divorce as like a back

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pocket safety net opportunity.

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And I think that it really has dulled

the senses when it comes to how serious

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marriage is and what it is because

there's always ne there's an exit.

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Is that what you're saying?

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There's always, yeah,

there's always an exit.

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And I, and I get it, sometimes

you do need the off ramp.

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Sometimes the person

does need the off ramp.

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Most, especially if it's

a dangerous situation.

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Most especially if, you know,

if it's something that is

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entirely too much to handle.

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Um, I was actually listening to

an interview with, um, you know,

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one person of faith interviewing

a woman who had gotten into a

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relationship and she prayed about it.

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She received the sign that this man that

she was trying to marry was a counterfeit.

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And that's, that was the

revelation that she received.

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Only for her to go forward with

the relationship, get married.

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Mm-hmm.

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And then come to find out that she

wasn't able to consummate the marriage.

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Ooh.

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Because there was, there was

like energy behind the guy.

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That's crazy.

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Turns out the guy had been

in indulging in incest.

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Oh yeah.

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Oh my gosh.

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And even, yeah, even as late as the

time that they had been talking to

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each other and had gotten married.

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Oh my gosh.

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And very shocking.

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I know.

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I don't know.

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Incest was still a thing.

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I, I, I'm, I'm kind of surprised.

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It's like incest meeting.

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What's the, like cousins or like

sister, brother, mom, dad, or, yes.

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Same.

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Same mother, same father, sister, brother.

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Ugh, that's so eighties.

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Like why, or it's so, I know.

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So like forties, like

what are we doing here?

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Like, yeah, exactly.

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Exactly.

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That's gross.

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And it just goes to show that if

there are signs that someone is

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not giving you what it is that you

want in that relationship Yeah.

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Then you probably should

really reconsider.

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Yeah.

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And I get it.

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You know, this young woman is

trying to keep her family together.

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Right.

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I get it.

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But this is the reason why it is

really important to make sure of who

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it is that you are with and make sure

that the person that you're with is.

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The person that you want

to father your kids Yes.

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Because of what you do.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, like, thoughts on that?

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I think it's interesting.

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Um, I find that on some level, the

reason why people stayed married

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for so long back in the day was

more so from an economic standpoint.

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You know, women couldn't, you know,

weren't afforded certain rights.

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And so I think that we, they

tr that the narratives are

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always like, oh, nuclear family.

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But the reality is, is like if some

of those women actually could have

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worked and could have done things,

and I kind of think that they might've

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been like, I'm not taking this

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Thomas.

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Yeah.

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You know, but I digress.

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I'm digress Thomas,

because, you know, gotta go.

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Thomas, I'm not taking this any longer.

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You take the kids to school, Thomas.

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Um, I do think that there's a level of.

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Of, I, I think it's okay to, to

forward things to change with the time.

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Sure.

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I do believe because of the education

and the access to employment and like

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money, women don't have necess that

women aren't, like, aren't, don't have

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to rely on a man for them to be able to

live in the society a hundred percent.

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So it's like now we're getting to

a place and it's our generation,

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unfortunately, that has to deal with

this dynamic between men and women and

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how men are dealing with it is one thing

and how women are dealing with this.

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Another thing, but Exactly.

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I do think that there's like

a level of I can divorce

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because I know I got, I'm cool.

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Like I'm no, I like, I'm good.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Financially.

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And so absolutely.

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If, and so I think, so I, so for,

for these two, um, the, I, I just

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believe that, so I actually thought

they'd been together for a lot longer.

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Right.

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And they were together.

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I thought they, this was like 2019

girlfriend, or girlfriend from college.

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Like, y'all just been together

for a long time and, and Right.

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Really it says that they were

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Right.

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And then they got engaged a year

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Right.

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So it was only really,

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Yeah.

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So it's only been two and a half

years and they've got two girls.

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Yeah.

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So it's like, it feels very, it feels a,

like, I, I don't know, it just feels a

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little chaotic and I kind of, I, I don't,

and I do think that maybe the, maybe the

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woman I think she is, was the woman that

he might have broken up for her for.

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Okay.

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And that, you know what I mean?

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Maybe that's who, who I

thought she was maybe.

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Um, but I, I just, there's just

something that's a little bit off to

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me about having a joint bachelor and

bachelorette party because his, like,

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historically, the tradition is you

go with your girls, I go with my, and

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you and I go with the guys, right?

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Like, or my man goes with the guys, I go

with my girls and we have a good time.

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We know what the rules are and we come

to, we come up, we show up at on our

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wedding day and we do our thing, right?

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And so why do you feel

a need to have a joint?

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Party, I believe.

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It's just it.

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So my keeping tabs up, when I heard

that, I was like, oh, she's keeping tabs.

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Yeah, she's making sure that things

are because, and so when it came

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out I was like, see, I knew I wasn't

seeing I, because I'm telling you man.

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Yeah.

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The podcast is like,

oh, he a holy brother.

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He okay.

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You know?

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And I was just like, I still

a football player who had two

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kids that before he got married.

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We do not live, if we lived in a

Dallas market, we might have actually

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seen him out in the streets and we

might have been like, oh, for real.

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He get married just like if we were

in DC and we know certain individuals

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that we see out in the streets and

club love, or we go to, we live in New

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York and we constantly seeing certain.

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Players in the club doing whatever,

saying that they got a a wifey at home.

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We'd be like, oh, okay.

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So we don't know much about, you

know, unless you're down there.

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I don't really think you would know much,

but, um, we all understand that football

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players are football players and he's a

multi hundred millionaire football player.

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Right?

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Right.

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So all that, to just sum it up to say,

um, I initially, when I put this down

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for us to talk about it, I thought it was

more about that controversial she wasn't

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with you and you or she could in the gym,

you know, that Rick Ross line, but she

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really kind of wasn't necessarily with him

for like, the development to get to get

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to that a hundred million dollar Right.

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A hundred million dollar.

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So, well at, at least the daughters will,

will benefit and, you know, it doesn't, it

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never hurts to have a, a well to do daddy.

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So, you know, go girls.

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For sure.

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Look, question.

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Look, as long as you take

care of them children, right?

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And y'all find love with whomever

and wherever I'm, I'm, I'm happy

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and please, but don't go, like, if

something don't feel right, I feel

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like this is the perfect example.

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Walk away girl.

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'cause yeah.

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Be right if something, yes.

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Yeah, it may.

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Right?

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So, um, so let's talk about

something not being right with

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someone who actually got married.

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Uh, there's a, um, so there's

a, a, a report out about Dwight

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Howard, um, and it's about his,

his wife, um, on the internet.

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Do you wanna talk a little bit

about the allegations, Vida?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Um, so now, um, it's been in the

news that Dwight Howard's ex.

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Um, is coming out and really she's

being dragged through the mud.

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Um, after accusing Dwight Howard

of the same hijinks that he's doing

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today with his current wife, and now

his current wife has been caught on

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video essentially sharing details

of, you know, drug use and how it has

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been tearing apart their marriage.

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And apparently child protective

services have been called in in order

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to scoop up the kids from the household.

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And so unfortunately, it is another

situation where there is a, you know,

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a couple in the sports community.

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That unfortunately is being

torn apart by some of the

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excess that exist in the field.

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Um, and so, you know, we hate to see it.

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We hate to see and hear how, you know,

someone who is trying to call out an issue

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that was happening with, you know, this

beloved athlete, how that person's cries.

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Were not heard only for these things

to resurface with someone new.

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And now, instead of, you know, maybe

getting that person help or providing

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support for Dwight Howard before he's

brought whatever demons into this new

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relationship and now it has festered

and become an issue in the marriage.

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And now the kids are, you know,

have been brought into it.

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They're, they've been taken

away from their home that.

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Honestly, like they had nothing

to do with breaking apart.

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Yeah.

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So it's been really unfortunate to see,

and honestly, like I I, I, I hate, I

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hate to see it for, you know, for this

couple that unfortunately they've been

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sucked into this black hole of excess.

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Her, uh, it, it's sad.

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Her name is Amy Luciani.

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Uh, yes.

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I dunno if that's how you pronounce

her last name, but, you know,

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there was a, uh, basically, you

know, she was on the internet.

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She she said that she was

lying on behalf of Dwight, that

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there are kids in the house.

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Told the son to lie on her.

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Uh, and that, you know, there's

alleged drug use that was going

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on and tried to pin it on her.

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She like jiggles a Ziploc bag that was, is

full of what looks like potentially flour

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or, you know, it could be that co caina.

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So we don't know.

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So we're just gonna say flour right now.

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We're gonna say flour.

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So she was jiggling a pack and it

looked like it was full of flour,

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but she was making a, a point to

say that she was at a, at a place

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in her life where she could stop.

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She didn't, she wanted to stop lying.

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She wanted, you know, the kids not to be

used against her or to be used in telling.

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Uh, lying on behalf of their father.

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And, uh, CPS apparently had been called

a few times, and, uh, the custody

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and the, the daughter was her, one of

the daughters were taken in, one of

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the children were taken in custody.

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There's been some things about

Dwight Howard that I think has

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been really interesting that

people have really glossed over.

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Mm-hmm.

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But don't really hold him to me.

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Mm-hmm.

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Like he's still getting awarded

in the, in the NBA, right.

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Like with like Hall of Fames

or like with, you know, being

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recognized and it's, that's fine.

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Okay.

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Like, he had a, he had a good career, but.

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Right.

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There's been some problematic stuff

that he's been a part of for many

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years, and it didn't just start here.

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Didn't start with Royce Reed

either, who was his, his, uh, the

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first woman that we, we really

knew publicly that he was dating.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I mean, that's been years ago now.

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Uh Right, right.

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It had been years He was still

living in, I think, in Orlando.

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Right.

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So it's just a very interesting, um,

kind of like, like what we see and

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like, and at, at some point someone's

gonna have to put all this together

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into like one story and then we

have to start holding the person.

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That's the common denominator in

all these stories accountable.

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Sure, sure.

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Because like I said, there was some,

there was a lawsuit that happened.

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You know, where he, there was

alleged sa I believe there was.

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Mm-hmm.

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The kids walking in on

him having intercourse.

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There were like, there was a

lot of stuff that was suss about

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it, but then he started mm-hmm.

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Winning all his custody

over the women who's mm-hmm.

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Who are the moms.

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So it just, it was, it's

just really confusing, so.

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Right.

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I think part of it is that we see

that he wins custody, but then on the

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other side we hear these like stories

and it's, so we don't really, it's

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hard to know if it's the moms or if

it's the money that allows him mm-hmm.

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To, you know mm-hmm.

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Out lawyer them.

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Right.

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And, uh, and, and it's kind of

sucks it not kind of, it, it's

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not great obviously for the.

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Adults, but it's, it's

even worse for the kids.

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And Yeah, definitely.

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We'll put, uh, let's put

a prayer in for them.

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'cause that is getting on the internet.

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Yeah.

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Crying into a camera.

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That is not how I would wanna

spend a moment of my marriage.

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No, not at all.

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And, and to feel as if she's in such

a, in such a dark place that she

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can't even go to his family because

like family is supposed to be the

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accountability buddy for a marriage.

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Mm.

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Like good people around the

marriage are supposed to be there.

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Yeah.

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I mean, ideally.

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Yeah.

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And so there are a few

things that are happening.

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I think that with social media,

you know, secrets have become

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free for consumption and.

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She shared this because she wanted

to call attention in one way or form,

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but it is sad that she doesn't feel

that there's any place that she can

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go to in order to be heard about

what's going on in the relationship.

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And she hit this like

moment of psychosis, right.

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Um, making this public statement.

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So it's tough and I agree with you.

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Yeah, wild.

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I agree with you.

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He filed the, he filed

for divorce yesterday.

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He beat her to it, so Wow.

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We shall see how this all plays out.

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Oh yeah, definitely.

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Yeah.

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So last but not least, magic

City Night got canceled.

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I wanted, so a little background.

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There are a couple NBA players, one of

which Lou ett, he plays for the Spurs.

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He wrote a letter, an open letter,

you know, saying that he thought

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it was inappropriate for, uh, the

Hawks to host a Magic City Night.

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Magic City is a well-known

establishment in Atlanta that offers

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food and beverage along with adult

entertainment, and he basically said,

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how could the MBA be supportive of

kind of glorifying, you know, this

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place or what it does, you know?

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Mm-hmm.

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Oh yeah.

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Status now.

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Mm-hmm.

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Where, uh, I, I think a lot of people

actually agreed with him when it comes

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to more so the adult entertainment

industry and like what we need to

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be careful about when we mm-hmm.

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Are bringing that in.

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Mm-hmm.

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But a lot of other people, and I'd love

to get your, your thoughts on this 'cause

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I, I also heard Al Horford of the Warriors

used to be on the Celtics, also spoke out.

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I don't know what he said.

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Right.

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But, uh, but, but this has

been a night in Atlanta.

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That's that Magic City Night

is, it was more so about the

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restaurant, more so about the brand.

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Sure.

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Not necessarily about promoting, you

know, the adult entertainment part of it.

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Uh, so I'm curious, you're from Atlanta.

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Tell me about it.

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Yeah.

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Of gimme some, gimme some background.

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'cause I feel like people don't really

under, like, know the extent maybe of the

474

relationship of course with the city of,

is this the first time the Hawks have,

475

have done, has done, have done this?

476

Or do have they had this

partnership with them before?

477

You know, I, from, from my

understanding, this is a, this is

478

like a, a like a one time thing.

479

It, it hasn't been done before.

480

It has been a way of kind

of like commemorating this

481

Hawks versus Orlando magic.

482

Okay.

483

Yeah.

484

Game, um, that is supposed to take

place on the 16th and Magic City.

485

I mean, when I first heard it,

I thought, this is interesting.

486

Magic City, like it worked out, right.

487

That they were able to do

this Magic City Monday night.

488

I mean, like, even just like

the, you know, just like the

489

play on words and all of that.

490

It, it seemed, it seemed inconsequential.

491

Right?

492

The thing is that Magic City

is, I'm sorry for the harshness,

493

but it's a strip club, right?

494

It is a Wellknown strip club.

495

Yep.

496

In Atlanta.

497

And you do have, you do have like

the basketball players that come

498

through, the athletes that come

through, and apparently some of them

499

are coming with ones because they are

going to the strip clubs in Atlanta.

500

And so there is this segment of, of

Atlanta that is dedicated to this.

501

And hey, for those who enjoy it, they do.

502

But to bring it kind of from like the,

the shadows of the night into mainstream.

503

Right.

504

That was bold.

505

But to be fair though, a lot

of our favorite rap songs

506

were tested in the strip club.

507

Like they, they go, they'd be pro, they

do, they'd be in the studio in Atlanta.

508

They'd be like, you know what?

509

Is this a banger or not?

510

They go to the strip club, they would

put it on and if it, if it started,

511

if everybody was getting it, they

were like, this is gonna be it.

512

So some of our probably favorite our, some

of our favorite music probably debuted.

513

Yes.

514

In establishment.

515

Absolutely.

516

And, uh, there, there's tribute

to this nightlife in Atlanta.

517

They, it's been named in songs from

your little Wayne to, you know, others.

518

Drake D Drake.

519

Yeah.

520

Sammy, we all know the most famous

guy that loves to strip clubs in,

521

uh, in the NBA is James Harden.

522

Right.

523

Okay.

524

Okay.

525

Um, so, you know, there

are, um, power consumers.

526

Mm-hmm.

527

And so this is, this was, I think,

I can imagine that there was, you

528

know, there was a group of people that

thought, let's go ahead and do this.

529

It's a great play on words.

530

People are used to it in Atlanta.

531

Um, because it is part of the

social scene in Atlanta, but the

532

reality is that the NBA and sports

in general, that's for everyone.

533

Just like how music is for everyone.

534

Right?

535

Right, right.

536

You know, different

people listen to music.

537

People in the strip clubs, they

listen to music, but you know, young

538

kids are listening to music as well.

539

Right.

540

And so.

541

And just be clear that they didn't

mention, they didn't mention the

542

strip club part of Magic City.

543

It was focused on their chicken.

544

They have like, I guess they

were given a Magic City Chicken.

545

They had like a t-shirt that had

like the Magic City Magic Night,

546

magic City, magic Mike, magic Monday,

magic Orlando, whatever it was.

547

Yes.

548

Course he had a CommEd T-shirt and

then ti is, is gonna do the halftime

549

entertainment, which Sure, true.

550

Arguably he might have brought some,

maybe he would've brought some ladies.

551

Um, like Usher does when in his

performances he sometimes has, you know.

552

But to be fair, they didn't actually

promote the strip club side.

553

They were only really

promoting the restaurant side.

554

But someone asked, someone asked

a really great question and said,

555

well, can you bring your children

to Magic City to eat a meal?

556

Yeah, exactly.

557

I mean, let's, let's be real.

558

Make no mistake.

559

You, there are so many places where you

can go eat the fact that people are.

560

Are trying to kind of cover this

up by trying to wax poetic if this

561

is supposed to be a promotion for

the restaurant about a restaurant.

562

Yeah.

563

I mean, come on.

564

Right.

565

It's like saying Hooters,

we're going for the wings.

566

You know, it's like, yeah.

567

Their wings aren't that good.

568

I've been to Hooters before.

569

They're not that good.

570

It's very, it's a very weird BBWs

are, if we're gonna go chain,

571

I'm going Buffalo Wild Wings.

572

Yeah.

573

They seem like they actually care.

574

And I'm not even going all the way into

like the whole Popeye's and all that.

575

I'm just talking like, just

chain rest once for no wings.

576

We're going there.

577

Wings stop.

578

I mean, come on.

579

So, i'm very sorry.

580

Can I ask you a question

though about this, please?

581

Yeah.

582

Someone brought up,

uh, if this were white.

583

Playboy and then be

having like a partnership.

584

Do you think that it would

be treated the same way?

585

Or like, would it be like, nah, Playboy,

we can't be, you know, we couldn't put

586

like the iconic bunny ears on we, you

know, like, let's say it was like the

587

New York Knicks and Playboy had a, had

a night and they had the bunny ears

588

for the, and like the, the dancers

dressed up in like the bunny gear.

589

Do you feel like because, because, because

the Playboy club, they, they're, I don't

590

know how, if it's still open, but the

Playboy Club was a thing back in the day.

591

Right.

592

And like, like people would go, men and

women would go, drinks all that, you know?

593

And I, and y'all want to Hulu

and watch all the documentaries

594

about that, about it.

595

But I'm curious if, do you think that

the NBA would also restrict that New

596

York Knicks and Playboy, um, partnership?

597

I, I mean, they would have to, right?

598

Like they would have to, I

feel as if we would've seen.

599

A partnership or at least

an attempt at one before.

600

I agree.

601

It were cool.

602

I totally agree.

603

It, it, it just is not cool.

604

And just because we've gotten to a day and

age where sex is in our face to the point,

605

I totally agree with you, of exhaustion.

606

Mm-hmm.

607

Like, it doesn't change.

608

And, and, and quite frankly, I am, I'm

proud of the people that did take a step

609

back to say something about what this

magic city Monday night really does mean.

610

It means that we are okay with.

611

Sex being out of the places where it's

designated, you know, we have places,

612

we have bedrooms, we have private

spaces, we have zoning, we have closed.

613

For that reason, we have zoning.

614

So it's not like we're taking

the away the opportunity for

615

people to express themselves.

616

Right.

617

Like that's a whole

different conversation.

618

Now we're in the public domain.

619

Right.

620

And we should keep the public

domain acceptable and palatable

621

for everyone to consume.

622

Right, right.

623

I always think it's funny because

to your point, it's like sex is

624

always, or nudity or whatever.

625

It's always kind of just like

in our faces and there's been,

626

and I don't know if it's just.

627

Getting older, but it just gets to

the point where I'm just like, why?

628

Like why do I need to see all that?

629

Like, and it's g it.

630

Yeah.

631

This is how HGTV gets all their viewers.

632

There's people like me that're just

tired of watching reality tv, NK version,

633

or not sk, I'm sorry, the reality tv.

634

Too much version.

635

I go over to HGTV and they're just clean.

636

They're doing something I love,

which is, I love interior design.

637

Yes.

638

And the houses motivation, and

we all know that beautiful for

639

millennials, uh, going on like Zillow,

dreaming up about houses are porn.

640

So like I'm in on HGG, I'm like,

Ooh, they get to buy that house.

641

What I would do in that

house, you know, all of that.

642

Um, but I do think that there's

gotta be a place, there's a time

643

and a place for it, like you said.

644

And is there an opportunity just to

kind of maybe keep something like more.

645

Kid friendly.

646

Not everybody in that stadium

or arena likes would wanna be at

647

Magic City, regardless of race

or in the first place or age.

648

Yeah, absolutely.

649

Like, it's just not their thing.

650

So.

651

Absolutely.

652

Um, it was a cute try,

but it was a cute try.

653

Maybe another time.

654

Can you imagine wings, but, okay.

655

Do you wanna hop into reality tv?

656

Let's do it.

657

Okay.

658

Um, you know, I'd love to

talk to you about Potomac.

659

Okay.

660

Uh, because we, you know, we've had

some conversation about the reunion

661

and about how things unfolded with

the trip that they took as a cast.

662

Right.

663

Um, and then just some interesting

things that, that I saw.

664

Um, and so when it comes to, first

and foremost, because I want to

665

make sure that we really dive into

it because it didn't get talked

666

about enough during the reunion, and

that's the cast trip to Colorado.

667

Right.

668

And so when it comes to the fact that we

ended the season in such an awkward place,

669

literally standing at a gas station after

the ladies basically were trying to find

670

what the, where the location was, they

weren't able to, they gave up, they were

671

running too close to their flight times.

672

I'm sure that flights were pushed

back, delayed, what have you,

673

in order to, you know, get them

there, get things back on track.

674

Yeah, exactly.

675

Because it just, you know, you could,

I, I had anxiety watching the, the last

676

episode because I'm thinking you guys

are nowhere close to your destination.

677

Right.

678

And your flight is in that same amount

of time, in the other direction.

679

Right.

680

So it was crazy to watch.

681

So I, I had anxiety like I.

682

You know, I have a family that likes

to get to the airport on time, and so

683

here I am thinking I, girl, I don't even

like to get to the airport on time, but

684

in that, I was like, yes, I don't know

that I would get to the airport on time

685

because it took us two hours to get

there, or two hours and getting lost,

686

getting there just to hopefully turn

around and have enough gas to get home.

687

Yes, exactly.

688

Or get back to the airport, you know?

689

Exactly.

690

It, it weird.

691

It was just such a weird thing

and just taking it back a couple,

692

like, you know, basically real

Housewives of Potomac route.

693

They, they finished up their reunion.

694

They had three parts.

695

I, I don't, it was a, it was a, uh, an

interesting edit to the stories because

696

if we just reflect back really quickly.

697

Mm-hmm.

698

Giselle did not get a full package.

699

They did not show scenes of her and

her beefs and her activity, which.

700

Let, let's to some, some thoughts.

701

So we'll put a pen there, right?

702

Actually had about 5, 6, 7 storylines,

but all of them were boring, right?

703

They all were boring.

704

Like they all, there was nothing

like, come on, uh, Cherice's son.

705

That was weird.

706

Very weird.

707

Bringing your kind of off again

on again off again boyfriend.

708

Which tech?

709

Like on just be with him 'cause

y'all all together anyway.

710

Like, yeah, you guys, you

brought him on TV just to break

711

up with him and call him poor.

712

I thought that was really messed up.

713

And then you, you're bringing

your mom on and continue to,

714

to continue to tell her story.

715

And then you've got your sister

and her father and your sister

716

going to, um, getting going into

college and trying to support her.

717

So, I mean, there was just so many

storylines that, that, and then on top of

718

that, Ashley's trying to, it was a lot,

produce a bunch of stuff that's happening.

719

So it just, right, it

just kind of, to me, I.

720

I hate to say this, but I just

felt like the, the, I don't

721

usually watch Potomac Sure.

722

I watched this year 'cause it was

like, oh, something's happening here.

723

But it just wasn't, um, Kiana, like Kiana,

we, uh, with the, she's, she's got the

724

boyfriend that bought her a picture frame

and she really likes picture frames.

725

Yeah.

726

We had Jazzy show up and pick a fight

when everybody was just like, I don't

727

really know why you guys are fighting.

728

Uh, right, right.

729

And then I think what, who, uh,

Tia, we had to hear about her sister

730

and their story and then something

weird about her husband and how she

731

talks about him being the nanny.

732

It just was a weird group effort.

733

Dynamic.

734

The only thing that made sense was

asking Wendy about the charges and.

735

Yeah.

736

Asking Stacy about how she was

constantly, you know, um, the

737

spotlight to be quote unquote exposed.

738

Right.

739

And so just reflecting back, if you

had, if you were thinking about the next

740

season, who are you keeping, who are you

leaving off of the cherry blossom tree?

741

Mm.

742

You know, I, I, I think it's

a very interesting question.

743

I, I almost have to take my cue from what

it is that played out during this reunion.

744

Beta has to query.

745

It's a very good theory.

746

I, let's go.

747

Yes.

748

And, and I am very curious to

see how this plays out because

749

we haven't heard any news.

750

It's now been a couple weeks since

the last episode of the reunion.

751

And what it is that I saw was Giselle

not even getting time, dedicated

752

time to speak about her story.

753

To be fair, there was a moment during the

beginning, during introductions where she

754

did talk about what was happening and what

had happened with her father's estate Yep.

755

And how the father's estate was

awarded to hi her father's wife.

756

And that was it.

757

That was the, the conversation

her father's park.

758

There was, yeah.

759

Oh, there you go.

760

And, and, and that's,

that's, that's really it.

761

Um, she told on herself having

a relationship that she did

762

not discuss on the season.

763

I'm not really sure what it is that

happened, but it seems like during the

764

time of the reunion that there wasn't any

time or there wasn't a decision anymore.

765

To go forward with Giselle.

766

I, and I think that it is

very, it was so very clear.

767

First what happened was Kiana called

out that Andy's trying to close out

768

the reunion, wrap things up, but that

Giselle hadn't received a package.

769

So they hadn't spoken about Giselle and

her life and what was going on, because at

770

the beginning we were told that we would

circle back to Giselle and what was going

771

on in her life and that didn't happen.

772

And then Giselle looked to her

left and her right, and she said,

773

Hey, I didn't get a package.

774

And she was right.

775

And so when they came back, Andy's trying

to close out the reunion and wrap things

776

up, and he proceeds to move forward.

777

And Giselle was like, hold on.

778

I didn't get to say anything and goes

through an el, an elevator pitch.

779

30 seconds of what was going on, how the

girls are good, how life is good, and how

780

she's, but my, how's living her best life.

781

When Stacey and them asked you in

Yeah, what ma The mal, wherever

782

they went to Maldives, whatever,

the island trip that she planned Oh.

783

Needed Cushing over,

they asked you about it.

784

Your henchman came in and completely

diverted the conversation once again.

785

So we never, you guys don't wanna talk

about it, but now all of a sudden we are

786

on the reunion and now you got all this

thing to say, I dated a congressman.

787

I'm in a relationship, but I'm, I'm sorry.

788

I I jumped in.

789

I'm sorry, but go ahead.

790

No, not at all.

791

No, but it's true.

792

I, I think that I, I think that this

was the moment when Giselle realized

793

that playing it so coy mm-hmm.

794

And trying to protect

everything about her life Right.

795

Is not going to fly anymore.

796

It doesn't because it it, and

it doesn't, and now she has.

797

Solid proof that an OG is not safe.

798

No.

799

If she's not going to give,

if she doesn't produce Right.

800

We cannot produce the stories and

then not produce a life that we are

801

going to talk about at the reunion.

802

That's what's hollow about Potomac.

803

Yeah.

804

They're just hollow.

805

Like they want, they wanna only

expose one person or two people.

806

Yes.

807

And they don't ever wanna do, wanna open

up about what's going on in their life.

808

And the thing is, is like mm-hmm.

809

It's, to me, it's just like on Beverly

Hills with Kyle and, and even Erica,

810

y'all are not talking about your

stuff and you guys are the main ones.

811

And it's like, but y'all, y'all

don't wanna talk about nothing.

812

You don't wanna talk about anything

and we can't talk about it, you know?

813

Right.

814

And, and so to me, first of all, I

know that we're not talking about

815

Beverly Hills, but Erica is definitely

giving friend of vibes and I think

816

she would be great as a friend of.

817

Right.

818

I think that's where she should move.

819

Right.

820

But, and I really think that

they need to move on from Kyle.

821

And I know that that's like a big

no-no to say that, but like, I am so

822

exhausted by this, this woman, um, and

how nobody calls her out on, on her Bs.

823

Right.

824

And miss her pump.

825

But we can talk about

Beverly Hills next week.

826

But let me go back to, to Giselle.

827

I feel, I, I feel like she's been

on the chopping block probably

828

for a while, but she is right.

829

You know, she's the o like doji.

830

She, Karen went, you know, when Karen

went away and probably still needed an

831

anchor, and now that Karen's back, maybe

they'll give Giselle one more shot.

832

But even then it just,

it felt weird to me.

833

It felt very weird.

834

I've never, it also felt weird to

me that we focused so much on Karen

835

and Wendy talking to each other.

836

And I, I just feel like what they did

was they set up a storyline between

837

Karen and Wendy and it looked like with,

um, with Stacey coming in, it looked

838

like, I feel like those three are.

839

For sure gonna be on next season.

840

Yeah, I agree.

841

Um, I don't, I I really could,

you could literally make ki the

842

friend of or not on their screen.

843

Jazzy said she's no longer gonna,

she's not gonna be on it, period.

844

Thank Lord.

845

Um Oh, right.

846

You know, she's not coming back at all.

847

Monique, I don't mind if Monique

got a, whatever it is, a flute.

848

But it's just, again, I don't want, I

just don't, don't be, don't bully or

849

don't just like gang up on one person.

850

Just like, and it's like every time that

person wants to have a conversation with

851

one-on-one, with someone, it's like, well,

no, we should do it in front of everybody.

852

And it's like, yeah,

it's never gonna be it.

853

And so like we shouldn't just be fighting.

854

It should be telling a

story about your life.

855

Yeah.

856

And I feel like you get more story about.

857

Stacey's life.

858

Um, because, you know, she's

reconciling with her husband.

859

She's got her daughter.

860

Like, we get to see the house, we

get to do this, but we just don't

861

get enough story from Giselle at all.

862

As, as well as Ashley.

863

Kind of like Ashley uses other

people to tell for her storyline.

864

Yeah, exactly.

865

There's, you know, there was a party

at the beginning of the season and a

866

second party to celebrate her divorce.

867

Exactly.

868

I mean, like this second coming.

869

And I think that it would've been

great to see what it means and what it

870

looks like for her to be in a new life.

871

Right.

872

And to manage everything because

it's, it's really, it, it, it's, it's

873

really sad that there was that missed

opportunity to share and to be able to.

874

Be a voice for women who are going

through a long, protracted divorce

875

process and being on the other side of it.

876

Right.

877

Like there was a real, there

was real material there.

878

Right.

879

And I just think that these ladies

are, I, if they don't want to share

880

anymore, I think that that is okay.

881

Can't be on the show.

882

You, you just shouldn't be on the show.

883

Go on a podcast and talk on the podcast.

884

Yeah.

885

Or maybe even participate in, you know,

any of these offshoot shows, the traders

886

or what have you, in order to have that

participation and the paycheck and all of

887

that, you know, maybe do something else.

888

Tell us story.

889

Give us a story about your life.

890

Like Yeah.

891

Tell us a story rep, like, show us what

it's like to go through to your point and,

892

and I just, the, so one of the reasons

why Vida and I, Vida and I have known each

893

other for better part of it decade now.

894

Yes.

895

Uh, and we, we met.

896

On, on the job.

897

Uh, and we were both

in investment banking.

898

And so when we talk about investment

banking, we're we're black women

899

in finance, you know, we're, we're

the, the unicorns I guess of, of

900

that, of kind of the space a bit.

901

However, your mind is trained in a and

when you're in, in investment banking,

902

it's always, it's about strategy, but

it's also about the technical parts.

903

It's about being able to source, you

know, where did you get this number?

904

How can you validate?

905

What are your assumptions and how

do you validate those assumptions?

906

And so one of the things that I

wholeheartedly believe in, and hopefully

907

we will do, uh, carry on, is bringing

that grounded part of the reality

908

not, and not being ill mannered,

mean nasty or anything a hundred

909

percent that, because I do believe

that you can have a reality TV show.

910

Yeah.

911

That is not.

912

Only about women fighting with each other.

913

And that, I think, so really it's

hard for me to listen to some of the

914

podcasts that are out because they're

like, well, this was like last season.

915

Garl doesn't have a storyline,

or her storyline's boring.

916

Oh my gosh.

917

She's talking about

this beach house again.

918

She needs something else she

needs, and it's like what?

919

You want her just to con be

on conflict, watch every day.

920

Like we can have a, a reality TV show that

is about a story about someone's life.

921

As long as they're open, they're

sharing what they're going through.

922

Like Denise, absolutely.

923

Denise.

924

Right.

925

Denise came back on to

Beverly Hills last week.

926

Right.

927

Told her her story about what's

going on with her and Erin.

928

Mm-hmm.

929

And again, she's not fighting with

another woman on the cast about

930

something allegedly that she, that

that woman lied about or something.

931

Right.

932

Absolutely.

933

She's talking about her wife.

934

Absolutely.

935

So if you're not interesting,

if you not interesting.

936

Let me say it this way.

937

If you don't have a story to tell,

then you don't need to be on tv.

938

Yeah.

939

Stop.

940

Stop.

941

Ill stop representing.

942

The, the stereotype so poorly

because you don't wanna open up

943

your life or you don't really have

anything interesting to talk about.

944

Exactly.

945

And it's okay because you're

a regular human being.

946

Everybody's ordinary, right?

947

Yeah, of course.

948

Some people are just not meant

to be on TV for 15 years.

949

Like, yeah.

950

And that's okay.

951

I think that, you know, I really

appreciate you taking a step back to

952

even just talk about this, because it's

something that has been weighing on

953

me just thinking about the fact that

there needs to be drama on TV in order

954

for it to be TV that is watchable.

955

And, you know, we've given into it,

there's like a, like a big thing that

956

we're waiting for and we're waiting for

the whole season to see it because we saw

957

it in the trailer and, and it's supposed

to be fantastic and splashy and you know.

958

Warm with a mustache.

959

Uh, you know, it's supposed to be all

of these things, and it's, it's a lot.

960

I just think that we may need to hit

the reset button at a, as a society.

961

Like there's, there's

like, it wasn't like this.

962

It wasn't this bad.

963

Yeah, it wasn't this bad.

964

Like we could like enjoy a sitcom

and like Rachel Zoe, right?

965

Yeah.

966

She's back on Beverly Hills.

967

Everyone's loving her.

968

Do you know why?

969

She's talking about her own life

and what she's going through talking

970

about her life and she makes things

about herself in the middle of dinner

971

and people are like, I love it.

972

Keep going.

973

Be chaotic.

974

You know?

975

And she's showing us the

Hamptons, Donna, Karen comes by.

976

I mean this is what we wanna see.

977

We wanna hear exactly.

978

Talk about your it like things.

979

And of course there is going to

be conflict because you cannot be

980

in a group, especially a group of

women, and not have a conflict.

981

Okay?

982

Yes.

983

It just doesn't happen.

984

So that's why you don't need

to make it happen because

985

it's gonna naturally happen.

986

Yes.

987

And I just wish that it was,

was a little bit more organic.

988

Like I feel like with Salt Lake

there's like this undercurrent.

989

That happens with all of them and Right.

990

Some people don't like some other people

and they're never gonna like them,

991

so they hop on something immediately.

992

Right.

993

But they all are telling

the story about their life.

994

We still are.

995

They really are.

996

Like, they're not just using other,

they're each other for their storyline.

997

They're telling a freaking story.

998

And so I wish that, um, that that

would be something maybe the producers

999

of, uh, Potomac would consider,

would be trying to center it a little

00:50:37,145 --> 00:50:38,705

bit more on the story being told.

00:50:38,915 --> 00:50:43,205

Like everyone's trying to have that

Vanderpump Rules season 10 moment.

00:50:43,235 --> 00:50:44,194

But that was real.

00:50:44,194 --> 00:50:45,185

That happened.

00:50:45,365 --> 00:50:46,234

Absolutely.

00:50:46,595 --> 00:50:48,665

I don't even remember her

name, her name anymore.

00:50:48,725 --> 00:50:48,845

Right.

00:50:48,845 --> 00:50:49,415

Arianna?

00:50:49,490 --> 00:50:51,919

Oh, oh, Rachel, Raquel.

00:50:51,950 --> 00:50:53,035

Rachel, Raquel, sorry.

00:50:53,299 --> 00:50:57,589

Raquel and Ariana were really good

friends and now everybody was hanging

00:50:57,589 --> 00:51:02,899

out and then some stuff happened between

Tom and Raquel and this, that was real.

00:51:02,930 --> 00:51:06,229

Alan Baskin is not a good enough

producer to produce that babes.

00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,959

That was a real thing, and

that's what we wanna see.

00:51:08,959 --> 00:51:13,370

We wanna see the dynamics between

people because it's not just that

00:51:13,580 --> 00:51:15,529

you're on reality TV and that's it.

00:51:15,950 --> 00:51:18,649

It's how do you deal

with being on reality tv?

00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:24,319

Yeah, that's part is what I believe

is part of the au the authenticity.

00:51:24,890 --> 00:51:28,380

It's, it's about like,

how does Katie show up?

00:51:28,410 --> 00:51:31,110

'cause people didn't like her

initially, but everybody loves her.

00:51:31,110 --> 00:51:33,839

But I've always liked Katie,

but Katie, you know, want

00:51:33,839 --> 00:51:36,509

Banner pump wasn't necessarily

everybody's, you know, cup of tea.

00:51:36,509 --> 00:51:36,569

Yeah.

00:51:37,020 --> 00:51:39,450

But how does her being in reality TV land.

00:51:40,259 --> 00:51:41,700

Show up for her, you know?

00:51:41,700 --> 00:51:43,020

So yeah, of course.

00:51:43,020 --> 00:51:45,660

I think I feel like I beat that for the

Dead, you know, beat that with the bat.

00:51:45,749 --> 00:51:46,499

Beat the Dead Horse.

00:51:46,499 --> 00:51:49,859

But we can get back to

the stilettos and heels.

00:51:49,979 --> 00:51:50,459

You remember that?

00:51:50,459 --> 00:51:53,310

Show the Stilettos heels and whatever.

00:51:53,339 --> 00:51:53,879

I don't know.

00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:58,979

Pepper had, she had like a fun little

like Sex in the City esque reality TV

00:51:58,979 --> 00:52:01,049

show with her and her friends on own.

00:52:01,049 --> 00:52:02,189

I loved it.

00:52:02,490 --> 00:52:04,049

I think it was called

like Pep in the City.

00:52:04,319 --> 00:52:05,370

It was just fun.

00:52:05,734 --> 00:52:06,569

Like, can't we laugh?

00:52:06,569 --> 00:52:08,339

Can't we go on fabulous vacations?

00:52:08,339 --> 00:52:10,524

And then we have natural

arguments that happen.

00:52:11,279 --> 00:52:12,930

Yes, absolutely.

00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,819

Where it doesn't have to be a thing.

00:52:15,049 --> 00:52:19,519

I think that when we hit this

reset, because I think that we

00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:23,029

do need a reset when it comes to

what it is that we're consuming.

00:52:24,649 --> 00:52:27,799

I think that there is

space for more dramas.

00:52:28,700 --> 00:52:31,069

We just need more drama television.

00:52:31,249 --> 00:52:34,069

We need Good Game of Thrones shows, right?

00:52:34,339 --> 00:52:35,034

We need like.

00:52:36,590 --> 00:52:40,670

Shows, and maybe we make them

weekly, like how they used to be

00:52:40,970 --> 00:52:44,630

as opposed to giving everyone this

opportunity there is a return.

00:52:44,660 --> 00:52:45,634

It what we need to do.

00:52:45,634 --> 00:52:48,680

Feels like I'm seeing a lot

more scripted TV more than ever.

00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:49,790

Right?

00:52:49,850 --> 00:52:52,009

I don't know about you just

feel like I'm seeing it a lot

00:52:52,009 --> 00:52:54,020

more and I, I'm consuming it.

00:52:54,020 --> 00:52:57,020

Like I watch Bill Trent

don't know how I got into it.

00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,995

I started watching it and now I'm stuck.

00:52:59,735 --> 00:53:02,930

Yes, I'm stuck at it and I'm

like, well, and you know what?

00:53:02,930 --> 00:53:03,650

Going there.

00:53:04,070 --> 00:53:10,700

I rather that than people ruining their

actual, like, lives for television

00:53:10,970 --> 00:53:15,950

because that it has been become painful

to watch some, some of it I can't watch.

00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,460

Like Real Housewives of New

Jersey had to stop watching it.

00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,950

It just, it just was too much.

00:53:22,279 --> 00:53:26,330

Um, and, and too much

destruction in people's like

00:53:26,380 --> 00:53:27,250

real lives to not be scripted.

00:53:27,250 --> 00:53:31,360

And that's the oldest daughter

knows way too much about her mom

00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,280

and her, her brother's relationship.

00:53:33,954 --> 00:53:36,504

She got way too many

opinions about adults.

00:53:37,345 --> 00:53:37,854

Right.

00:53:38,184 --> 00:53:39,115

And like, you know

00:53:41,274 --> 00:53:42,684

what said, kids need to be kids.

00:53:42,744 --> 00:53:43,524

Exactly.

00:53:43,524 --> 00:53:44,514

Kids need to be kids.

00:53:44,514 --> 00:53:47,845

And I'll say, next gen

was good though, so Yeah.

00:53:48,684 --> 00:53:49,704

I've always gonna plug it.

00:53:49,854 --> 00:53:51,144

They were, it was funny.

00:53:51,954 --> 00:53:54,534

But, but that's the thing, the

reason why it's going to be good is

00:53:54,534 --> 00:54:01,555

because like, when you are navigating

a city as a child, you need like,

00:54:01,764 --> 00:54:03,744

there, it's going to be dramatic.

00:54:03,834 --> 00:54:04,194

It will.

00:54:04,194 --> 00:54:04,434

Right.

00:54:04,464 --> 00:54:08,365

You're like the girl didn't

give the guy back apart of time.

00:54:08,365 --> 00:54:10,374

He mad that she got his, his speakers.

00:54:10,374 --> 00:54:14,064

I mean, that in and of itself was

the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

00:54:14,064 --> 00:54:15,254

And it was hilarious.

00:54:15,364 --> 00:54:16,084

And it was real.

00:54:16,144 --> 00:54:17,614

That's what it is that people love.

00:54:17,734 --> 00:54:19,114

That's the magic of reality.

00:54:19,114 --> 00:54:20,644

TV reality.

00:54:20,734 --> 00:54:24,244

But speaking of reality, TV and Yes.

00:54:24,334 --> 00:54:25,174

All of this.

00:54:25,594 --> 00:54:27,034

Can we talk about Summer House?

00:54:27,334 --> 00:54:28,204

Can we end all Summer house?

00:54:28,924 --> 00:54:29,914

Yes, let's do it.

00:54:29,914 --> 00:54:32,974

Um, we've got some newbies on the show.

00:54:33,304 --> 00:54:34,594

There's a couple storylines.

00:54:34,594 --> 00:54:37,504

One is that this gorgeous, he is gorgeous.

00:54:37,504 --> 00:54:39,094

Aussie then Oh yeah.

00:54:39,574 --> 00:54:41,524

Uh, gorgeous race, our presence.

00:54:41,584 --> 00:54:44,344

And he's got all the girls, uh, flummoxed.

00:54:44,734 --> 00:54:50,284

And one of them is having a whole moment

and she's got this huge crush on him.

00:54:50,584 --> 00:54:53,494

And, but she's, she's, she's

being very much like a teenager.

00:54:53,494 --> 00:54:57,034

She's like, I don't know if I can

tell him and I don't know what to do.

00:54:57,034 --> 00:55:00,904

And then she's like, I'm gonna flirt

with them, and I don't, I can't flirt.

00:55:00,934 --> 00:55:01,414

Oh my gosh.

00:55:01,414 --> 00:55:02,314

Lindsay can flirt.

00:55:02,314 --> 00:55:05,914

And not every time she's, I'm like,

what is your, and so literally

00:55:06,604 --> 00:55:11,569

she's making these like comments,

like kind of jabs, like by herself.

00:55:13,594 --> 00:55:14,374

It's weird.

00:55:14,374 --> 00:55:14,434

Yeah.

00:55:14,794 --> 00:55:19,924

It was, the comments were kind of

jabbing around the fact that she likes

00:55:19,924 --> 00:55:21,634

Ben, but she hasn't said it to Ben.

00:55:21,684 --> 00:55:22,014

Mm-hmm.

00:55:22,074 --> 00:55:26,664

That he wants to bang the person

that they were all celebrating.

00:55:27,149 --> 00:55:27,369

Mm.

00:55:27,374 --> 00:55:27,924

Mm-hmm.

00:55:28,164 --> 00:55:30,289

And they just had this really nice,

there's like a really nice moment.

00:55:30,809 --> 00:55:34,704

Everyone's dressed up and she makes

this really off color, off, off brand

00:55:34,704 --> 00:55:37,374

remark and then blames him because Right.

00:55:37,614 --> 00:55:41,274

They all joke about it, that

she was joking about it and it

00:55:41,274 --> 00:55:43,104

was just such a weird interact.

00:55:43,104 --> 00:55:44,964

It was just such an odd thing to me.

00:55:44,964 --> 00:55:46,314

I, and sure.

00:55:46,434 --> 00:55:48,384

I like, this is what I do

like about Summer House.

00:55:48,384 --> 00:55:49,044

The, the Yeah.

00:55:49,404 --> 00:55:55,134

People in it, they are gentle when they,

like, they, they saw her, they were,

00:55:55,224 --> 00:55:56,934

and, and everyone kind of was observing.

00:55:56,964 --> 00:55:58,374

They were like, I'm

gonna be gentle with her.

00:55:58,659 --> 00:55:59,394

Right, right.

00:55:59,394 --> 00:56:00,354

If this was housewives.

00:56:02,829 --> 00:56:05,709

They would've been fighting

going back and forth.

00:56:05,709 --> 00:56:07,359

They would've been egging it on.

00:56:07,689 --> 00:56:12,219

But they were very nice and gentle with

her in, in that because they know, like

00:56:12,219 --> 00:56:14,229

people knew more than what Ben knew.

00:56:14,259 --> 00:56:19,709

'cause Ben didn't know, but Ben went

up to talk to Bailey about this whole,

00:56:19,739 --> 00:56:24,269

her, her comment, and she was very

defensive and he was just like, it

00:56:24,269 --> 00:56:27,479

wasn't appropriate for you to say

that in the middle of this dinner.

00:56:27,489 --> 00:56:28,219

That like, right.

00:56:28,279 --> 00:56:31,624

You just made a comment about me

being with a married woman and

00:56:31,624 --> 00:56:33,274

is that how I'm coming across?

00:56:33,304 --> 00:56:34,834

Am I coming across that way?

00:56:35,074 --> 00:56:38,884

So he had his own concerns and then she

just was like, I've never had a, like,

00:56:38,884 --> 00:56:42,034

she, she's being defensive and he's

just like, well, what's the problem?

00:56:42,269 --> 00:56:42,619

Right.

00:56:42,624 --> 00:56:42,874

Right.

00:56:42,874 --> 00:56:44,194

There's something more here.

00:56:44,254 --> 00:56:45,364

What is the problem?

00:56:45,364 --> 00:56:45,424

Yeah.

00:56:45,844 --> 00:56:47,224

Can you talk to me about that?

00:56:47,464 --> 00:56:50,179

I feel like I've been talking a lot,

but can you talk to me about that?

00:56:51,519 --> 00:56:57,064

So, I think that, you know,

there is a, a a a point where

00:56:57,064 --> 00:56:58,984

there's like a speed dating.

00:56:59,764 --> 00:57:02,314

Um, event that they, that they go out to.

00:57:02,854 --> 00:57:06,874

Um, and Bailey is talking about

just the insecurities that she has.

00:57:07,534 --> 00:57:13,144

And it was really tough to watch, you

know, this poor girl who had been through

00:57:13,144 --> 00:57:19,264

a very traumatic situation, getting

broken up with at Sweet Green and the

00:57:19,264 --> 00:57:24,634

way that her ex, who she was living

with, decided to just kind of like break

00:57:24,634 --> 00:57:32,524

things off, throw in the towel, throw

the keys on the table at her at Sweet

00:57:32,524 --> 00:57:37,984

Green with his bags packed, literally

the same day to leave on the curb.

00:57:38,794 --> 00:57:39,724

On the curb.

00:57:39,844 --> 00:57:44,464

Blue went moved to uh, la right?

00:57:44,464 --> 00:57:48,694

I think he got on a flight and

moved to LA like he was a savage.

00:57:50,104 --> 00:57:53,554

I mean, it just, I can only

imagine that it just is going

00:57:53,554 --> 00:57:56,014

to rock someone who may not.

00:57:56,884 --> 00:58:00,154

May not, maybe, or may not

be in the best place already.

00:58:00,664 --> 00:58:05,704

And so having a situation like that,

like that is rejection, you know,

00:58:06,214 --> 00:58:11,494

unrequited love, having a crush on

somebody and it not being returned,

00:58:11,914 --> 00:58:17,554

that is, that pales in comparison to the

situation that happened to this girl.

00:58:18,184 --> 00:58:23,194

And it's almost as if she has

been looking for reasons to,

00:58:23,704 --> 00:58:28,144

you know, stay single, stay to

herself, not put herself out there.

00:58:28,444 --> 00:58:33,334

And so here she is trying to

do that with this guy Ben, and

00:58:33,334 --> 00:58:35,974

he's gorgeous and he's nice.

00:58:36,934 --> 00:58:41,944

I think that what it is that she

really should be doing, the first

00:58:42,274 --> 00:58:43,714

is making sure that she's okay.

00:58:43,804 --> 00:58:44,014

Right.

00:58:44,254 --> 00:58:48,814

Because right when what it is

that I've heard is that if you're

00:58:48,814 --> 00:58:52,774

able to talk about a difficult

situation without getting emotional.

00:58:53,674 --> 00:58:56,464

Then that means that you have

gotten to a point where you're

00:58:56,464 --> 00:59:00,334

healed enough to be able to move on.

00:59:00,964 --> 00:59:05,374

Now, I'm not saying that you need

to be under the ground forever

00:59:06,159 --> 00:59:07,569

until you can't shed a tear.

00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:11,049

But yeah, he uh, he threw the

keys at me and it was like, okay.

00:59:11,139 --> 00:59:11,949

And I was like, whatever.

00:59:12,339 --> 00:59:12,669

What else?

00:59:12,669 --> 00:59:14,504

Yeah, like we don't need all that Exactly.

00:59:14,804 --> 00:59:18,519

But we do need a acknowledgement that

if you're still, if you're crying about

00:59:18,519 --> 00:59:19,959

it, then it's still impacting you.

00:59:20,319 --> 00:59:21,429

It's still impacting you.

00:59:21,429 --> 00:59:22,599

Very hurt by that.

00:59:23,109 --> 00:59:27,279

Very hurt and there, and it's

okay to be hurt and it's okay

00:59:27,279 --> 00:59:28,299

to work through the herd.

00:59:28,929 --> 00:59:34,719

And so, you know, the thing of

the thing is that when a person is

00:59:34,839 --> 00:59:37,089

not healed, they leak everywhere.

00:59:37,209 --> 00:59:37,449

Yes.

00:59:37,659 --> 00:59:39,219

And that's what's happening here.

00:59:39,699 --> 00:59:43,209

Here she is trying to have fun and

she's putting the car before the horse.

00:59:43,629 --> 00:59:46,179

Fun should happen, but fun.

00:59:46,179 --> 00:59:48,429

Cannot overtake healing.

00:59:48,849 --> 00:59:50,979

Healing should be priority number one.

00:59:51,309 --> 00:59:52,269

Are you okay?

00:59:52,269 --> 00:59:54,009

Do you feel like you're beautiful?

00:59:54,219 --> 00:59:55,719

This woman is gorgeous.

00:59:56,169 --> 00:59:56,289

She is.

00:59:57,279 --> 00:59:58,809

And she's like a natural beauty.

00:59:58,809 --> 01:00:02,409

You can tell that she, and she's funny,

but this is the but to, but this last

01:00:02,409 --> 01:00:08,409

episode really kind of just, yeah, I

don't like it when you're not, you are

01:00:08,409 --> 01:00:12,339

joking and, and again, we know, this

is what I like about Summer House.

01:00:12,339 --> 01:00:12,939

They're gentle.

01:00:13,089 --> 01:00:16,239

They're not gonna like jump it all right.