This isn't a normal episode. It's an announcement about where The Professional Speaking Show goes from here.
John explains the decision behind moving the podcast from weekly to fortnightly, why the numbers that once looked promising dropped off a cliff earlier this year, and why he's stopped trying to force a recovery that isn't coming.
He talks honestly about what it means to admit a show isn't finding its audience, why the podcast is becoming more of a personal passion project than a professional growth channel, and where his time and energy are moving instead: focus on coaching clients and speaking gigs, daily short-form content, and a new exclusive to YouTube content strategy.
He also shares a review point. At 300 episodes, he'll decide whether the show continues at its current cadence, drops further, or ends altogether.
If you're a speaker weighing up whether podcasting is the right growth channel for you, this episode is a candid look at what that decision actually costs, and how to know when a passion project should stop pretending to be a business strategy.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 Announcement Intro
00:25 Why The Change
00:57 Stats Drop Reality
01:49 Passion Versus Business
02:24 New Content Strategy 03:22 Podcasting Lessons
04:37 Six-Month Review Plan
05:08 How To Support
06:35 Back Catalogue And Coaching
07:15 New Cadence Farewell
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Welcome to not exactly the Professional Speaking Show, but it is.
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:Not an episode though,
this is an announcement.
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:And this is to let you know, especially
if you didn't catch the end of last
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:week's episode, which you may not
have, you should go and listen to
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:that episode with Suzanne Reay.
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:It is fantastic, all about frameworks.
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:Every speaker needs that.
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:But I s- made an announcement about
what's happening with the show going
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:forward, how things are going to be.
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:And I had made a decision at the end
of:
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:cut back on my podcast output and move
from weekly episodes to fortnightly.
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:Now, there was some stuff that happened
at the start of the year that was
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:actually very encouraging with the
show, and numbers were rocketing up.
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:I thought, "Oh, great, yeah,
this is maybe the right decision.
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:I'll keep it going for a while."
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:And then at some point this year,
everything just dropped off a
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:cliff and is not recovering.
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:In fact, if anything, it, the
things are still going, the
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:way that I don't want them to.
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:Now, I don't know if that stuff's going
on in the world of podcasting or if that's
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:stuff particularly to do with my show.
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:I really couldn't tell you.
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:And having done so much work on
promotion, on SEO, and so many other
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:things, it's been very disheartening.
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:And so the decision point came up
for me recently, seeing my stats and
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:seeing how things were really just
continuing to drop off that cliff, that
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:it was time to not be tied to those
feelings anymore and make a decision.
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:Did I want to continue the show or not?
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:I've been here before, and I've
come very close to canceling.
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:realistically, I have to be able to
see that the show is worth doing,
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:that it's finding its audience, and
it, at the moment, it just isn't.
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:I love doing the show.
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:I love doing the interviews.
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:I love creating solo content, and I'm
gonna keep doing that, but I'm not
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:gonna be doing it on the same level.
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:I have to cut that back to make
what is more of a, a personal
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:passion project, which I have to
decide that's what this show now is,
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:rather than a professional project.
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:This is a passion project now, and so
as such, it has to be treated that way.
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:Business has to come first.
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:My time has to be spent on finding
clients for my coaching program and
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:helping and working with them, and,
spending time prospecting for my own
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:speaking opportunities, which really
is the business of speaking, right?
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:That's what this-- That's
what I'm all about.
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:That said I am now putting out
daily short form content on most
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:of my social media channels.
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:You can find the links in the show
notes, and that's even going to probably
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:include a separate YouTube channel
that I'll set up for those shorts.
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:And I am now implementing
a full YouTube strategy.
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:I'm going to be creating
content that is just me, that is
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:specifically just for YouTube.
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:Some of it may make it into
the podcast output as well.
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:I'm not sure about that yet.
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:But most of it's going to
be exclusive to YouTube.
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:So if you want to get that and you're
not following this show on YouTube, not
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:following the Present Influence channel,
please make sure you give us a follow.
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:That will also be linked
in the show notes for you.
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:So plenty of places to still get
professional speaking content and help,
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:possibly in a way that's going to be
more valuable for you and more beneficial
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:to me, and give me much more, much more
potential feedback than the podcast does.
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:And, this is potentially useful
for any of you who are thinking,
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:"Oh, maybe I'll start a podcast."
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:It probably wouldn't be my first
recommendation for you unless you
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:really want to do it, or maybe you've
already got the following that will
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:definitely follow you onto a podcast.
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:Maybe you're already pretty well known.
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:Perhaps you have the money to put
into working with the experts in
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:the podcasting industry who can help
you get a channel up to those higher
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:levels and rankings that will help
you find the right kind of audience.
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:Something I'd love to do and really
just cannot justify giving that
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:amount of energy to, but maybe at
some point in the future I will.
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:It's a valuable lesson in making
sure that your resources are going
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:to what matters, not just into
passion projects and creativity.
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:They're great to have.
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:my comedy for the most part, whilst
I get paid sometimes for doing
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:stand up, is a passion project.
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:I do it 'cause I love it, not
'cause I think I'm gonna be a
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:professional standup comedian.
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:the podcast as well.
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:I had this dream of becoming a
professional full-time podcaster and,
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:I've given it a go and that hasn't
happened, and now I've moved on.
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:I've moved on to other things,
but I still love podcasting.
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:That hasn't gone.
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:But now this is more of a personal
project that I will continue
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:for as long as it makes sense.
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:I will review in six months' time when
we hit 300 episodes as to whether the
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:show continues or whether we go back
to four episodes a, a month, or whether
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:we stick at the two episodes a month.
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:I'm gonna make that decision when
we get to 300, 'cause I think
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:that would be a reasonable point
at which to say, "You know what?
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:maybe the professional speaking show has
run its course and it's time to move on."
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:And I feel like it would be
a shame, but what can I do?
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:If you wanna help, definitely
please subscribe to the show.
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:Make sure you're following on
whatever podcast providers you use.
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:Rate the show Spotify will
allow you to rate the show.
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:Apple Podcasts will allow
you to leave a review.
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:If you haven't done that and you listen
on any of those platforms or are watching
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:YouTube even, interacting and subscribing
on the YouTube channel will also help me
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:a lot, even though the RSS feed for the
show doesn't actually go there anymore
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:but that's where things are with the show.
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:Sometimes things work
out, sometimes they don't.
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:I'm being very philosophical about
it, but I also have to be practical
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:about it and put my energy where
it is making a bigger difference.
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:And where I'm seeing results right now
is daily content on social media, that's
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:mostly having an impact on LinkedIn and
TikTok, which is a surprise to me 'cause
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:I wasn't even using TikTok till recently.
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:And, and also implementing other
strategies on channels like YouTube,
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:where I'm gonna have much better
possibilities to get a return on
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:my investment of time, energy, and
money, and help more people have more
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:reach and make a bigger difference.
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:And ultimately, it's a business decision.
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:And if we don't make these business
decisions, we just find ourselves busy
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:with the stuff we want to do instead
of the stuff that we need to do.
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:And, so if, if this news makes
you sad, it makes me a bit
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:sad as well, and I apologize.
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:However, we're not going away.
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:We will still be here.
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:You'll just have a little bit less
of The Professional Speaking Show.
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:Please do go and check
out the back catalog.
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:Every week's episode may not
be for you, and that's the same
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:with any show that goes out.
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:But you will find multiple episodes that
probably will be a great fit for you and
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:relevant to speakers all around the world.
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:And if you are interested in working
with me on helping you either start your
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:speaking career or develop your speaking
career so that you are becoming known,
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:booked, and paid, you'll find a link to
the Known, Booked & Paid Blueprint in
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:the show notes for this episode as well.
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:Or go to presentinfluence.com/kbpb
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:and you'll find all the
details of the program there.
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:But that's it.
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:That's the announcement.
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:Probably a bit longer than it needed
to be, but next week I will be back
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:with a solo episode, so do come and
tune in for that, and another guest
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:episode a couple of weeks after that.
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:That's gonna be the new cadence
for the show, and I hope that
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:you'll stick with us for that.
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:Wherever you're going, whatever you're
doing, have an amazing rest of your day.
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:Go and do something worth speaking about.
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:I'll see you next time.