Future internal medicine physician Christine Pho and Drs. Daniel Stanton and Clinton White provide a sequel story to “Revenge of the Cyst”!
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Sara Dong:Welcome to Febrile, a cultured podcast for all things infectious disease.
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Sara Dong:and anti-microbial management.
Sara Dong:I'm Sara Dong, your host.
Sara Dong:Today's episode is actually a bit of a sequel or extension of a prior
Sara Dong:episode, which I will mention at the end if you want to refer back, so
Sara Dong:as not to give it away right away.
Sara Dong:Although you may be able to guess when I introduce our guests.
Sara Dong:So let's meet them.
Christine Pho:My name is Christine Pho.
Christine Pho:I am a medical student in my fourth year at UT Southwestern in Dallas.
Sara Dong:Christine is planning to apply for an internal medicine residency.
Sara Dong:Our second guest is Dr.
Sara Dong:Daniel Stanton.
Daniel Stanton:I'm Daniel.
Daniel Stanton:I'm one of the first year fellows in infectious disease at UTMB in Galveston.
Sara Dong:UTM B is the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston,
Sara Dong:Texas, which is where Daniel also completed medical school and residency
Sara Dong:And last but not least is our guest discussant
Clinton White:Hi, I'm Clinton White.
Clinton White:I'm a Professor in the Infectious Disease Division at the University
Clinton White:of Texas Medical Branch.
Sara Dong:Dr.
Sara Dong:White's clinical interests and expertise include parasitology, tropical medicine,
Sara Dong:HIV, and opportunistic infections.
Sara Dong:He serves on the editorial board of a number of journals and
Sara Dong:directs the IDSA-ASTMH guidelines committee for neurocysticercosis.
Sara Dong:So before we get to the case, Febrile is everyone's favorite cultured
Sara Dong:podcast, so we kick off the episode by having our guests share some culture.
Sara Dong:So really it can be anything that's brought you happiness recently.
Sara Dong:I'll start off with you Christine
Christine Pho:Sure.
Christine Pho:I recently had the opportunity to try some Asian American fusion restaurants.
Christine Pho:So, I had Blood Bros.
Christine Pho:BBQ in Houston, which is a Texas barbecue place that also has Asian spices and
Christine Pho:influences, and I also got to try Cris and John in Dallas, which is a
Christine Pho:Mexican Vietnamese restaurant as well.
Sara Dong:Cool.
Sara Dong:That sounds great.
Sara Dong:what about you, Daniel?
Daniel Stanton:So, I just got back from a trip to Florida, uh, Disney World,
Daniel Stanton:and I got the opportunity to visit the Star Wars theme park section of the
Daniel Stanton:Disney World, and I, uh, was blessed to be able to make my own lightsaber.
Daniel Stanton:I'm like a huge Star Wars nerd, I got to make my own personal lightsaber finally.
Sara Dong:And how about you Clinton?
Clinton White:Um, yeah, I was actually a music major in college, and recently I've
Clinton White:been listening to a lot of piano music, um, and particularly Chopin's Nocturne No.
Clinton White:1 and some pieces by Eric Satie that have sort of a, a melancholy, uh, tone to them.
Sara Dong:Oh, what?
Sara Dong:This is such a great variety.
Sara Dong:I love it.
Sara Dong:Um, well, Christine, I'll hand it over to you to tell us about
Sara Dong:the case and get us started.
Sara Dong:. Christine Pho: A 41 year old male prison inmate with a past medical history of
Sara Dong:hypertension presented with one year of worsening headache associated with
Sara Dong:nausea, vomiting, and weight loss.
Sara Dong:The headache is diffuse and worse while supine, radiates to
Sara Dong:his neck and causes stiffness.
Sara Dong:Over the last three months, his headache now causes him to feel pressure behind
Sara Dong:his eyes and he has developed nausea and vomiting several times per week
Sara Dong:associated with 40 pounds of weight loss.
Sara Dong:Patient has also had recurrent sudden falls that are associated with
Sara Dong:sudden movement over the past year.
Sara Dong:He denies any specific triggers or prodrome of symptoms before his falls.
Sara Dong:Denies fevers, chills, night sweats, seizures, or focal neurologic deficits.
Sara Dong:He has been incarcerated for five years and he works as a cook.
Sara Dong:He is a Mexican immigrant who came to the U.
Sara Dong:S.
Sara Dong:in his teens and last visited Mexico six years ago.
Daniel Stanton:So I just want to say a few things that stand out
Daniel Stanton:about the case right off the bat.
Daniel Stanton:All of his symptoms kind of are painting the picture of someone that has high
Daniel Stanton:intracranial pressure, , including these, diffuse headaches that
Daniel Stanton:are worse when he's laying down.
Daniel Stanton:The pressure like features behind his eyes with nausea and
Daniel Stanton:vomiting and weight loss now.
Daniel Stanton:So it, it's just overall showing this picture of high intracranial pressure.
Daniel Stanton:It's also based on the timing and the very slow progression of things
Daniel Stanton:starting over a year ago with the worsening over the last three months.
Daniel Stanton:This is a chronic process more so than like a quickly progressive process.
Daniel Stanton:So we're thinking if infectious wise, very slow growing infections,
Daniel Stanton:things like mycobacterial, maybe neurosyphilis, um, a fungal organism
Daniel Stanton:or parasitic organism, maybe some of our opportunistic infections.
Daniel Stanton:The next things we really would want to do in this case, get a very
Daniel Stanton:detailed physical exam, particularly a neuro and a retinal exam.
Daniel Stanton:Um, then we would obviously want to go to imaging to see if there's any features
Daniel Stanton:that are changes on his anatomy from any of this increased intracranial pressure.
Daniel Stanton:After the imaging if we don't find anything, any masses, we'd do a lumbar
Daniel Stanton:puncture, really looking at the cells and the differential on the cells more
Daniel Stanton:than anything, and then establish his HIV status and syphilis serologies.
Daniel Stanton:Also, non infectious wise, things that might cause this are things like
Daniel Stanton:malignancy if they've metastasized to the leptomeninges, or vasculitis,
Daniel Stanton:things of that nature as well.
Daniel Stanton:So, you want to tell us a little bit more about the physical exam, Christine?
Christine Pho:Sure, his physical exam was significant for an ataxic gait,
Christine Pho:some discomfort with neck flexion without rigidity, slight diffuse
Christine Pho:hyperreflexia, and bilateral papilledema.
Christine Pho:He didn't have any problems with mentation and no cranial nerve deficit
Christine Pho:or weakness, and he had negative Brudzinski's and negative Kernigs sign.
Christine Pho:So, we went ahead and got labs and imaging on him.
Christine Pho:So, his labs were significant for leukocytosis of 12, 000 white cells
Christine Pho:per microliter with eosinophilia.
Christine Pho:He also had a HIV and syphilis test that were negative.
Christine Pho:And he had a lumbar puncture that was performed with a CSF analysis that showed
Christine Pho:undetectable glucose, high protein, and an elevated white count of 47
Christine Pho:with a high percentage of eosinophils.
Christine Pho:He had a CT of the head that showed severe hydrocephalus with transcentorial flow
Christine Pho:of CSF but no other significant findings.
Christine Pho:He then had an MRI brain with and without contrast, that was
Christine Pho:limited by motion artifact.
Christine Pho:It was notable for communicating hydrocephalus
Christine Pho:and leptomeningeal enhancement.
Daniel Stanton:So, with like we said before, this being a chronic
Daniel Stanton:process, we now have more evidence that there's a meningitis going on.
Daniel Stanton:The glucose consumption on the lumbar puncture, the really high
Daniel Stanton:protein with the pleocytosis and this leptomeningeal enhancement
Daniel Stanton:that's been showing up on the MRI.
Daniel Stanton:Um, this leads to a really broad differential diagnosis just
Daniel Stanton:thinking about chronic meningitis.
Daniel Stanton:Um, things like Cryptococcus, maybe some endemic fungal infections in the U.
Daniel Stanton:S.
Daniel Stanton:like Coccidioides.
Daniel Stanton:Um, Tuberculous meningitis comes into play since he's an incarcerated person.
Daniel Stanton:Um, Brucellosis could have this appearance, neurocysticercosis, and
Daniel Stanton:uh, other things like leptomeningeal cancers can also give you this kind of
Daniel Stanton:changes and appearance of meningitis.
Daniel Stanton:But because he's had this eosinophilic predominance of the pleocytosis, you think
Daniel Stanton:of a much more narrow bit of of organisms.
Daniel Stanton:The first few that come to mind are the ones you always get from a textbook.
Daniel Stanton:Things like...
Daniel Stanton:Angiostrongylus, or the rat lungworm, um, Baylisascaris, the neural larval
Daniel Stanton:migrans, and, uh, Gnathostomiasis.
Daniel Stanton:But no matter what we did on taking his history, I think we, uh, couldn't get
Daniel Stanton:him to admit to eating any snails or traveling to Southeast Asia recently.
Daniel Stanton:So we, uh, quickly dismissed those from our differential.
Daniel Stanton:Things like drug allergies were high on things we were discussing, as
Daniel Stanton:well as, uh, the neurocysticercosis.
Clinton White:So, if you think about neurocysticercosis, the main way we make
Clinton White:that diagnosis is with imaging studies.
Clinton White:The CT can be done as was done in this case.
Clinton White:It showed hydrocephalus and not a lot more.
Clinton White:The CTs often will show cysts in the brain parenchyma or can show
Clinton White:calcifications as well, neither of which was seen in this case.
Clinton White:MRIs are considerably better than CT at demonstrating cysts, particularly in
Clinton White:the ventricles and subarachnoid space.
Clinton White:Um, there are other methods that can be used to confirm the diagnosis.
Clinton White:For example, serologies can be used to suggest exposure.
Clinton White:There are newer methods like antigen detection, um, quantitative PCR, and
Clinton White:even in some cases are diagnosed by next generation sequencing of the spinal fluid.
Clinton White:So there are newer sequences on the MRI scans, um, that can
Clinton White:demonstrate things, particularly when they're missed on other sequences.
Clinton White:Uh, one of them is called Fiesta.
Daniel Stanton:Christine, you think you can tell us what we've done next?
Christine Pho:MRI brain was repeated with three dimensional Fiesta sequence
Christine Pho:and showed two large cysts with visible scolixes in the fourth ventricle
Christine Pho:and enlargement of the cisterna magna with extensive cystic debris.
Christine Pho:In addition, there was multifocal subarachnoid cysts consistent
Christine Pho:with racemose neurocysticosis.
Christine Pho:An MRI spine was performed with and without contrast that
Christine Pho:showed no significant findings.
Christine Pho:We sent out labs to the CDC for neurocysticercosis enzyme linked
Christine Pho:immunoelectrotransfer blot, EITB, and it returned positive for both serum and CSF.
Clinton White:So, this, uh, patient had neurocysticercosis.
Clinton White:Um, a previous episode, number 64, had Dr.
Clinton White:Christina Coyle discuss some aspects of neurocysticercosis.
Clinton White:We'll, I'll reiterate a few of them, but focus on some things that she
Clinton White:didn't have time to talk about.
Clinton White:Um, it's important when you think about neurocysticercosis that
Clinton White:you realize that it's a series of diseases and not just one infection.
Clinton White:So if you told someone you had a Staph infection, you'd want to know,
Clinton White:well, is this an abscess in the skin, or a bacteremia from a catheter, or
Clinton White:endocarditis, and they'd all have a little bit different management.
Clinton White:And the same is true for, uh, Taenia solium infections causing cysticercosis.
Clinton White:Um, they're very different presentations, depending on whether the cysts
Clinton White:are just in the brain parenchyma.
Clinton White:If they are, whether they're viable cysts, degenerating cysts,
Clinton White:or just residual calcifications.
Clinton White:You also can have extra parenchymal cysts, which are the most serious forms of
Clinton White:disease, including ones in the ventricle or ones in the subarachnoid space.
Clinton White:And often you'll have multiple different forms at the same time.
Clinton White:So in this case, he had both, uh, cysts in his ventricles and
Clinton White:cysts in the subarachnoid space.
Clinton White:So the diagnosis in this case was confirmed by the Fiesta imaging, which
Clinton White:showed scolices within, uh, cystic lesions, the so called, uh, "dot and
Clinton White:hole" sign, uh, which is pretty much diagnostic of neurocysticercosis.
Clinton White:With neurocysticercosis, it's different from other infectious diseases in
Clinton White:that the organisms are not in most cases proliferating a whole lot.
Clinton White:And so the acute management, the initial management should focus on
Clinton White:getting their symptoms under control.
Clinton White:If they have seizures, the first order of business is to get
Clinton White:them on anti seizure medicines.
Clinton White:If they have hydrocephalus, that usually requires neurosurgery.
Clinton White:If they have diffuse cerebral edema, it requires, uh, use of,
Clinton White:uh, anti inflammatory drugs.
Clinton White:So, those are all important aspects of the initial management.
Clinton White:So, Christina, you want to follow up?
Christine Pho:So just to go over his management, he was started on
Christine Pho:high dose dexamethasone, and then subsequently in neurosurgery, performed
Christine Pho:a suboccipital craniotomy, whereupon accessing the cisterna magna, enumeral
Christine Pho:cysts were found and were removed.
Christine Pho:The fourth ventricle was accessed inferiorly and the cysts removed
Christine Pho:and confirmed by neuroendoscopy.
Christine Pho:An extraventricular drain was placed and albendazole and
Christine Pho:praziquantel therapy was started.
Christine Pho:The extraventricular drain was converted to a ventricular peritoneal
Christine Pho:shunt and methotrexate was started inpatient with plans to taper
Christine Pho:the steroid slowly outpatient.
Christine Pho:He is currently convalescing well.
Clinton White:So in this case, he did have, some evidence of
Clinton White:communicating hydrocephalus, which can be due to inflammation,
Clinton White:and he was started on steroids.
Clinton White:So when we treat this disease, particularly in those with mixed forms,
Clinton White:we think about the more serious forms of infection, and the treatment should focus
Clinton White:on what are the most serious forms, and what requires the most intensive therapy.
Clinton White:So, in this case, he can have, um, antiparasitics for the subarachnoid cysts.
Clinton White:Um, but, um, actually, it's very important to, uh, look at
Clinton White:the cysts in the ventricles.
Clinton White:The subarachnoid and ventricular cysts, it's interesting, tend to have a longer
Clinton White:subclinical period before they present.
Clinton White:Um, in a series we did from Houston, they were often 8 or
Clinton White:10 years after immigration.
Clinton White:So, this case, he had not been back in Mexico for a long period of time.
Clinton White:And that's kind of typical.
Clinton White:Um, so, seizures are associated with parenchymal neurocysticercosis.
Clinton White:But extraparenchymal disease is associated with hydrocephalus, such as in this case.
Clinton White:One of the interesting findings on this patient is he had these, uh, periodic
Clinton White:drop attacks, where, and actually, there's a term, Brun's syndrome, uh,
Clinton White:based on a neurosurgeon named Brun's who described this around 1900, just after
Clinton White:1900 in Germany where a cysticercosis typically in the third or fourth
Clinton White:ventricle moves around when you change positions and causes a sudden onset of
Clinton White:an acute, obstructive hydrocephalus.
Clinton White:So that was probably going on, in the past in this case and, would be a, real
Clinton White:big risk factor, um, for him not doing well if it was not addressed right away.
Clinton White:So in the fourth ventricular cysts, you really don't want to treat that medically.
Clinton White:And in fact, if you gave antiparasitics, it actually might interfere with his long
Clinton White:term treatment, uh, so that wasn't done.
Clinton White:Instead, we had a, a discussion with our neurosurgeons.
Clinton White:And, um, they said, well, why don't you just treat him medically?
Clinton White:And I said, well, he's got the cysts in the fourth ventricle.
Clinton White:And really, if that's not taken out, he's at risk for sudden death, which
Clinton White:is not something we like to happen in our patients under our care.
Clinton White:Um, So because of that we discussed this with the surgeons.
Clinton White:Well how do you get to the fourth ventricle?
Clinton White:Well there are two approaches.
Clinton White:Some cases of neurocysticercosis, they actually take a flexible neuroendoscope,
Clinton White:go up through the lateral ventricles, the third ventricle, and there are
Clinton White:descriptions of snaking it through the aqueduct and just pulling the cyst out.
Clinton White:However, there are critical structures on each side of the aqueduct, so
Clinton White:you don't really want to do that unless the aqueduct is quite dilated.
Clinton White:The other approach, is to approach it from behind and do a
Clinton White:craniotomy in the occipital lobe.
Clinton White:And then, either by micro dissection, by stereotactic approaches, or with
Clinton White:neuroendoscopy, you can get into the fourth ventricle and take the cyst out.
Clinton White:So, our patient had ventricular and subarachnoid cysts, and they
Clinton White:went in from a posterior approach.
Clinton White:As soon as they got in the subarachnoid space, they were...
Clinton White:enumerable, , cysts that sort of came out.
Clinton White:And so it, he clearly had a heavy burden of, subarachnoid disease.
Clinton White:The cysts in the ventricle could be removed easily.
Clinton White:And if that was all that had gone on, uh, he would be cured.
Clinton White:So ventricular cysticercosis, if you can take the cysts out
Clinton White:and cure them, that's great.
Clinton White:But he had so many cysts in the basilar cisterns and subarachnoid space, that he
Clinton White:was going to require long term therapy.
Clinton White:The debulking that was done in this case, uh, is helpful.
Clinton White:If you've got a lot of uh, parasites that you kill in the subarachnoid
Clinton White:space, it takes the body a long time to get rid of them, and so you'll have
Clinton White:chronic inflammation causing problems.
Clinton White:However, there are some cases that suggest maybe if you can get some of
Clinton White:them out, it might improve your outcome.
Clinton White:Typically, subarachnoid neurocysticcercosis has not responded
Clinton White:to the regimens of anti parasitic drugs that we use for other forms
Clinton White:of disease, for parenchymal disease.
Clinton White:And there are three approaches that have been, um, used in this
Clinton White:case.
Clinton White:In Mexico, they give high dose albendazole for a month and then repeat it again.
Clinton White:Some centers in the U.
Clinton White:S.
Clinton White:have used prolonged courses of albendazole, often lasting
Clinton White:months to even over a year.
Clinton White:More recently, there are studies using a combination of two anti parasitic
Clinton White:drugs, praziquantel and albendazole.
Clinton White:And the praziquantel is parasiticidal in itself, but even more importantly
Clinton White:elevates the levels of the active metabolite of, um, the albendazole, so
Clinton White:you get, uh, higher steady state levels.
Clinton White:Um, so, you know, that's often required and still may require
Clinton White:a long course of therapy.
Clinton White:So he's gotten debulking, his antiparasitics.
Clinton White:Um, it's really important that if you kill the parasites, you can
Clinton White:cause worsened inflammation.
Clinton White:And the inflammation really is the cause of a lot of the chronic processes.
Clinton White:So it's really important to get them on anti inflammatory medicines.
Clinton White:Typically, we'll start out with, uh, very, very high doses of, of steroids.
Clinton White:Um, I think he was started out on 24 milligrams a day of dexamethasone.
Clinton White:You don't want to keep people on that forever, and so drugs like methotrexate or
Clinton White:TNF inhibitors have been used as steroid sparing agents for chronic disease.
Clinton White:But he also has communicating hydrocephalus.
Clinton White:And, If you just give him antiparasitics, that's still going to be present.
Clinton White:And so in his case, he required, um, a placement of an external ventricular
Clinton White:drain and then a ventricular peritoneal shunt to manage the hydrocephalus.
Clinton White:But he also needs chronic anti inflammatory drugs
Clinton White:and chronic antiparasitics.
Clinton White:And, um, by the time he'd gotten his cysts out of the fourth ventricle and the ones
Clinton White:from the, uh, posterior fossa removed.
Clinton White:He was feeling great.
Clinton White:And I saw him in the hospital and he said, why can't I go home?
Sara Dong:Thank you so much.
Sara Dong:You know, we crammed up a very complex case into a fairly short timeframe.
Sara Dong:So I actually was hoping maybe you could give a quick overview
Sara Dong:and summary of the case again.
Sara Dong:And I'd love to hear any additional thoughts you have about how you
Sara Dong:follow these patients in the clinic and, as they are recovering.
Clinton White:So, this patient had ventricular cysticercosis,
Clinton White:and that's a, that's typically requires, uh, it's a surgical
Clinton White:disease, it's not a medical disease.
Clinton White:So if you've got obstructive hydrocephalus or hydrocephalus rather than just
Clinton White:diffuse cerebral edema, that's a medical emergency and requires neurosurgery.
Clinton White:Uh, the ventricular cysts can be popped out, uh, most of the time
Clinton White:they're not very inflamed and, can come out easily by neurosurgery.
Clinton White:The ones in the lateral and third ventricle can be removed by these
Clinton White:neuroendoscopes and once you've taken them out, uh, the patient's cured.
Clinton White:Um, however, subarachnoid neurocysticercosis requires more
Clinton White:prolonged therapy and that includes chronic anti-inflammatory drugs, uh,
Clinton White:steroids and maybe steroid sparing agents and intensive, um, antiparasitic drugs.
Clinton White:We're not completely sure of the best antiparasitics, but praziquantel plus
Clinton White:albendazole may be better in some cases.
Clinton White:And since this disease takes a while, you need things to follow.
Clinton White:And we will typically follow the MRI scan.
Clinton White:But sometimes the MRI will not completely normalize.
Clinton White:And so there are other things that can be followed, and there are a
Clinton White:couple of tests that can be used to determine if you have viable cysts.
Clinton White:Those include a quantitative PCR assay and an antigen detection assay,
Clinton White:both of which can be performed in the serum or in the spinal fluid.
Clinton White:And if those have turned negative, um, you can actually stop the treatment, stop
Clinton White:the antiparasitic treatment, taper the steroids, and declare the patient cured.
Clinton White:So, you know, this patient had a good outcome.
Clinton White:It required aggressive treatment, a discussion with the neurosurgeons,
Clinton White:holding off on antiparasitic drugs until the cysts in the ventricles
Clinton White:were removed, and eventually starting a prolonged course of anti
Clinton White:inflammatory and antiparasitic therapy.
Clinton White:Thank you.
Sara Dong:Thank you to Christine, Daniel and Clinton for joining Febrile today.
Sara Dong:As a quick reminder, you can also check out episode number 64, which is called
Sara Dong:Revenge of the Cyst and featured Dr.
Sara Dong:Cesar Berto and Dr.
Sara Dong:Christina Coyle who also discussed a different case of neurocysticercosis.
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