The purpose of the United Methodist People Podcast with Rev. Dr. Brad Miller is to strengthen the connection int eh United Methodist Church through conversation and commentary to fulfill the mission of the United Methodist Church of making disciples of Jesus Christ for the transformation of the world. In Episode 015 Brad has a deep conversation with Rev. Lisa Schubert Nowling the Senior Pastor or College Avenue United Methodist Church in Muncie Indiana and an Indiana Conference delegate to the 2019 General Conference. Lisa tells Brad about her early faith formation in being nurtured and encouraged in her local church to sept into leadership and eventually answering the call to ministry complimented by here training an skills and education in journalism and French. Lisa has special affinity for serving people in the margins of life on matter of social justice and enhancing the influence to the local church to achieve life transformation Lisa expressed to Brad her concerned about the state of the church and how the UMC is struggling to relate to many generations of people driven in many ways by the failure of the UMC to understand and respond to the context of the 21st century world. She goes on to go deeper int eh matter of context in regards to the understanding and preparing for the 2019 General Conference regarding g the way forward. She lays out in some detail the nature of the traditional, one church and connectional conference plans. She talks about the merits and challenges of each and shares with Brad why is leaning toward supporting the one church plan as the best approach to saving the unity of the church and the UMC’s ability to continue to impact the world for the Good News of Jesus Christ. She unpacks with Brad her concerns in two area’s prior to going to General Conference those be differing views of interpreting Scripture and the need too approach the sensitive matters of human sexuality at the General Conference with a heart of peace. Perhaps the most impact statement that Lisa made to Brad on Episode 015 the UMPP was that her hope for the UMC is not in General Conferee but in Jesus Christ. This is an important issue the United Methodist People Podcast in understanding and relating to the matter facing the UMVC on the way forward. Please listen, share with other and subscribe, rate and review on iTunes. Doing All the Good We Can, October 2018 Rev. Dr. Brad Miller