In this energizing episode, Alan McLaren, Co-Founder of STRATA Originals, shares how to build a powerful leadership brand that pulls opportunities to you instead of pushing uphill. If you struggle with team execution feeling heavy and growth stalling despite a strong C-suite, you won't want to miss it.
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- Why your personal visibility is the hidden multiplier for company momentum
- How to start building thought-leadership in just 15 minutes a week
- What authentic commenting on LinkedIn does that original posts alone can’t
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Alan McLaren, Co-Founder of STRATA Originals, co-leads a personal branding agency specializing in working with CEOs, executives, entrepreneurs, and legal professionals. With a strategic, intentional, and authentic approach, Alan has coached or trained over 600 CEOs in the past two years. Alan’s passion for personal branding comes from over two decades of experience in leadership roles, including public companies, partnerships, and entrepreneurial ventures. As Co-Founder of Infinitycomm, a full-service marketing agency, he developed deep expertise in public relations and marketing, honing his ability to craft and elevate brands, including those of CEOs and their personal brands.
Want to learn more about Alan McLaren's work at STRATA Originals? Check out his website at https://strataoriginals.com/
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Scott Ritzheimer:to the Start scale and succeed podcast. It's the only podcast
Scott Ritzheimer:that grows with you through all seven stages of your journey. As
Scott Ritzheimer:a founder, I'm your host, Scott Ritzheimer, and I want to talk
Scott Ritzheimer:about something that catches just about every stage five
Scott Ritzheimer:founder off guard, and that is, you've done this stuff, you've
Scott Ritzheimer:built your executive team, you've got a CFO coo all the C
Scott Ritzheimer:suite and and you've wrestled with the idea that your job has
Scott Ritzheimer:fundamentally changed. You no longer in the weeds. You're no
Scott Ritzheimer:longer there trying to drive everything forward. But you're
Scott Ritzheimer:left with a couple of questions. First, what do you do? And the
Scott Ritzheimer:second one, and this is something that very, very few
Scott Ritzheimer:people talk about, and that is that you can have a great team
Scott Ritzheimer:executing brilliant, brilliantly on the inside, but if you're not
Scott Ritzheimer:visible on the outside, they're going to be pushing a boulder
Scott Ritzheimer:uphill. Now to talk about what that looks like, why that
Scott Ritzheimer:happens, and how we can get over it, you don't want to hear from
Scott Ritzheimer:me. You want to hear from the guy who's got this figured out,
Scott Ritzheimer:and that is the one and only Alan McLaren, who's co founder
Scott Ritzheimer:of strata originals. He leads a learning brand, a learning
Scott Ritzheimer:branding, leadership branding, wow, can't get it out. Agency
Scott Ritzheimer:specializing in working with CEOs, executives, entrepreneurs
Scott Ritzheimer:and legal professionals with a strategic, intentional and
Scott Ritzheimer:authentic approach. Alan has coached or trained over 600 CEOs
Scott Ritzheimer:just in the past two years. His passion for personal branding
Scott Ritzheimer:comes from over two decades of experience in leadership roles
Scott Ritzheimer:including public companies, partnerships and entrepreneurial
Scott Ritzheimer:ventures. As co founder of infiniticom, a full service
Scott Ritzheimer:marketing agency, he developed deep expertise in public
Scott Ritzheimer:relations and marketing, honing his ability to craft and elevate
Scott Ritzheimer:brands, including those of CEOs and their personal brands. He's
Scott Ritzheimer:here with us today. Alan, before we hit record, you made a
Scott Ritzheimer:distinction that I think is just a brilliant way to start off the
Scott Ritzheimer:show, and that is that you have you've moved away from personal
Scott Ritzheimer:branding and moved to leadership branding, just help us
Scott Ritzheimer:understand what's the difference define leadership branding, and
Scott Ritzheimer:why is that different from personal branding?
Alan McLaren:So there's two reasons why we made the move.
Alan McLaren:One was, you know, when something gets popular, then
Alan McLaren:it's a race to the bottom right. So that personal branding now
Alan McLaren:everybody and his brother's talking about it, so that people
Alan McLaren:are now saying, Oh, for 2000 bucks, we'll do this for you,
Alan McLaren:and that for you. And we said, You know what? We need to
Alan McLaren:elevate this conversation. This is a leadership conversation,
Alan McLaren:not a brand conversation. And so when you raise it to the level
Alan McLaren:of leadership, people look at that and go, I'll invest in my
Alan McLaren:leadership. I'll invest in my communication, and what we call
Alan McLaren:your leadership signal, because that is something I understand.
Alan McLaren:Personal Branding is something, you know, we all have one, but
Alan McLaren:it tends to be very personal. But leadership tends to be very
Alan McLaren:business wise. That's why we made the move, and it's changed
Alan McLaren:how we think about it as well.
Scott Ritzheimer:Yeah, I love that. So what's the cost of not
Scott Ritzheimer:investing in your leadership brand? I mean, there's a lot of
Scott Ritzheimer:successful CEOs out there who've built successful companies and
Scott Ritzheimer:have done it to a certain extent, invisibly, I know I did
Scott Ritzheimer:in previous ventures. What is that costing us in our
Scott Ritzheimer:organizations?
Alan McLaren:Well, I'll ask you this way, what does trust cost?
Alan McLaren:What is building trust cost or not having trust? Everybody who
Alan McLaren:has been successful in business has done that by accident or by
Alan McLaren:what is by purpose, purposefully. But if you think
Alan McLaren:about it now, you're saying, Okay, well, if I invest in
Alan McLaren:trust, any outcomes possible? If I'm not trusted, then it's
Alan McLaren:impossible. And I'll give you an example. I have a friend of mine
Alan McLaren:who was in the trucking space, and he moved to M and A, and
Alan McLaren:when he moved to M and A, he thought, who's going to follow
Alan McLaren:me? Everybody followed him. Why? Because he built trust. He
Alan McLaren:didn't have expertise in the new M and A world. He had trust in
Alan McLaren:the trucking world, but because he had done that, people move
Alan McLaren:with him. It's the same in any business where you're trying to
Alan McLaren:get new employees, or you're trying to grow your business, or
Alan McLaren:you're trying to do something political, trust is the name of
Alan McLaren:the game. So that's one aspect. The other one is you'll never
Alan McLaren:know if you're not visible. Opportunities cannot show up on
Alan McLaren:your doorstep because your doorstep doesn't exist. So
Alan McLaren:that's the two reasons. I have another story I'll share with
Alan McLaren:you in a minute, but that's the two key reasons why it's
Alan McLaren:important to do that.
Scott Ritzheimer:This is so good, because one of the things
Scott Ritzheimer:that's happening in Stage Five is especially more forward
Scott Ritzheimer:thinking. Leaders are thinking about what's next, right?
Scott Ritzheimer:They're thinking about a move to another industry, a move to, you
Scott Ritzheimer:know, being more of an owner, investor. And this is the exact
Scott Ritzheimer:mistake. I mean, it's embarrassing how bad I did this
Scott Ritzheimer:coming out of my previous company, but I've actually
Scott Ritzheimer:written it about it in my book, and that is the biggest mistake
Scott Ritzheimer:I made while I was CEO of a previous company. Was not making
Scott Ritzheimer:this investment. Because when I moved, no one moved with me,
Scott Ritzheimer:right? I was like, I started from zero and felt the pain of
Scott Ritzheimer:it. So. For those, especially who are thinking of like what
Scott Ritzheimer:they're going to do after being CEO, that's such a big point. I
Scott Ritzheimer:want to I don't like to do this because it's like every other
Scott Ritzheimer:guest feels the need to talk about AI, and we've got a full
Scott Ritzheimer:conversation that we've had without talking about AI. But as
Scott Ritzheimer:you're talking about it, this idea of trust I have seen is, is
Scott Ritzheimer:so important now more than ever, because of the age of AI,
Scott Ritzheimer:because data is there everywhere. But like, what do
Scott Ritzheimer:you trust? And so walk us through maybe a little bit
Scott Ritzheimer:practically, like building a leadership brand around trust,
Scott Ritzheimer:right, both for this stage and for future stages. What are some
Scott Ritzheimer:of the what are some of the biggest mistakes you see folks
Scott Ritzheimer:make when they start off on that journey?
Alan McLaren:Well, they think that leadership or personal
Alan McLaren:branding or thought leadership is just about content. Content
Alan McLaren:is the output that you see, right? But here's the thing that
Alan McLaren:we see differently. We only do video with our clients. Only
Alan McLaren:video, no written post. I mean, there's a written post
Alan McLaren:supporting the video, but there's no post that we do. Why?
Alan McLaren:Because people want to spend time with you, and
Alan McLaren:statistically, you've seen that over 567, hours of watching a
Alan McLaren:video with someone, you get to know them really well. In fact,
Alan McLaren:with the work that I do, when someone contacts me, they know
Alan McLaren:me. I don't know them because they've spent three hours with
Alan McLaren:me on video or watching a podcast or whatever it is. So if
Alan McLaren:you think about the first part, the first mistake is thinking is
Alan McLaren:just about doing content. And we say, yes, it's about doing
Alan McLaren:content, but content that speaks from your strength or your what
Alan McLaren:you call your leadership signal. What does that mean? So in my
Alan McLaren:case, I'm a heart leader. I lead from the heart. So if I start
Alan McLaren:taking data and trying to spew that out, I'm not in my zone.
Alan McLaren:Might think it's good, but I won't come over naturally, and I
Alan McLaren:won't come over authentically. So we work with our our clients
Alan McLaren:to get them in that zone and also to eliminate their shadows.
Alan McLaren:Everybody has them things that they don't come across well when
Alan McLaren:they talk about once, you find that then the content lands,
Alan McLaren:because it lands based on the trust hormone, oxytocin. I don't
Alan McLaren:know if anybody knew this. We've learned this in the last three
Alan McLaren:weeks. When you watch a video that is from a trustworthy,
Alan McLaren:authentic person, oxytocin kicks into your brain you trust, and
Alan McLaren:ergo, that person is now trusted, so that piece of
Alan McLaren:content is landed and is supported by neuroscience.
Alan McLaren:Imagine what that can happen if you do that 50 times in a year.
Alan McLaren:So that's the magic behind it, and we just discovered in the
Alan McLaren:last few weeks. So we're so charged about it that we have
Alan McLaren:that supporting us. So there you go.
Scott Ritzheimer:Amazing. We might have lost like everybody,
Scott Ritzheimer:because I've seen so many folks, especially who fall in this
Scott Ritzheimer:category. They they're wonderful people in person, and then they
Scott Ritzheimer:turn into robots as soon as the camera turns on. And so that's
Scott Ritzheimer:not a reason to not move forward, right? How do you get
Scott Ritzheimer:past that feeling of talking into a camera as opposed to
Scott Ritzheimer:talking to another human being?
Alan McLaren:Well, there's a couple of ways. So if you're
Alan McLaren:doing it on your own, it's practice, right? It's it's
Alan McLaren:practice record videos, until you think that, Oh, that is me.
Alan McLaren:The other one you know that we do is we coach them to do that.
Alan McLaren:We were just with one of our clients online, who is one of
Alan McLaren:the most brilliant orators in the world, getting him in his
Alan McLaren:zone for that particular topic mattered, because I said to him,
Alan McLaren:Well, here's an example. You could talk about this, and now
Alan McLaren:you look like you're partisan when you talk about that, as
Alan McLaren:soon as you change the language, you're inviting people to think
Alan McLaren:about it differently. Ergo, that's what you want. Your
Alan McLaren:personal brand, your leadership brand, is all about. I want
Alan McLaren:people to think so. If you're partisan, they're in their
Alan McLaren:partisan brain. If you're inviting them in, then that's
Alan McLaren:what happens. So that's what we work people on, is coach them on
Alan McLaren:that that's hard to do on your own, but if you are doing it on
Alan McLaren:your own, practice it till it feels as comfortable as this. If
Alan McLaren:you and I were in a Starbucks, this would be how I would talk
Alan McLaren:to you. I'm not going to have more hands or or trying to do
Alan McLaren:something silly. I'm not performing. I'm trying to be me,
Alan McLaren:and you're trying to be you. That's what we try to get people
Alan McLaren:to do, because everybody's authentic. And the last thing
Alan McLaren:I'll say on this is, sometimes I get people say, but I'm not
Alan McLaren:really good at this. I'm not comfortable, I'm an introvert.
Alan McLaren:I'm going, Dude, you built a business worth $50 million you
Alan McLaren:had the alligators at your ankles all your life, and you're
Alan McLaren:going to take this learning opportunity and throw it away
Alan McLaren:because you're scared. Give me a break. You've been scared all
Alan McLaren:your life as an entrepreneur, right? So now it's time to learn
Alan McLaren:a new skill that is transferable outside of digital too, and
Alan McLaren:that's why we think it's so important. It's not just for
Alan McLaren:video, it's when you're doing a presentation to investors, when
Alan McLaren:you're out there doing an M and A when you're trying to hire
Alan McLaren:that coo. All of that matters being in your zone.
Scott Ritzheimer:yeah, it's interesting, and I think
Scott Ritzheimer:especially coming back to this root of trust that. You talked
Scott Ritzheimer:about it really is the core of it. Because you see the CEO's
Scott Ritzheimer:brand show up in things like investment pitches, in things
Scott Ritzheimer:like the CEO rating on Glassdoor, or whatever. The
Scott Ritzheimer:other one is that I can't remember off the top of my head
Scott Ritzheimer:to, you know, what's on the website. And you know, should
Scott Ritzheimer:you choose to this company? I mean, how many people fell in
Scott Ritzheimer:love with Apple because of Steve Jobs? Right? Such a great
Scott Ritzheimer:example of it. I think one of the challenges that folks might
Scott Ritzheimer:have walking into that is like, how do you know if it's working?
Scott Ritzheimer:How do you measure progress? How do you How does that translate
Scott Ritzheimer:into success in our current world.
Alan McLaren:So what we believe is that this is about
Alan McLaren:relationship building and relationship trust. So you can
Alan McLaren:measure relationship acquisition pretty easily, right? They were
Alan McLaren:in my life. They're not in my life. They turned out to be a
Alan McLaren:lead. They turned out to be a partner, whatever it happens to
Alan McLaren:be. You can also measure impressions, so on YouTube and
Alan McLaren:LinkedIn you can measure, okay, well, when I started, 10 people
Alan McLaren:saw it after my fifth video, 50 people are seeing it, 100
Alan McLaren:people, so it's being served to more people now. So I'm making
Alan McLaren:an impact. The comments that you get, the likes, the shares, and
Alan McLaren:the part that nobody talks about. And this is not a secret,
Alan McLaren:if you're in any kind of networking event, and in my
Alan McLaren:case, I'm in an organization called YPO, Young Presidents
Alan McLaren:Organization. I go to these events now, and I cannot leave
Alan McLaren:the room without someone going I've been watching your videos.
Alan McLaren:I've been watching it happens all the time. They don't engage
Alan McLaren:because that's not what people do. 90% of people will not
Alan McLaren:engage with your content, but they will view it. So you can
Alan McLaren:measure empirically the KPIs that are there. I measure the
Alan McLaren:relationships. I have them, sit up and I say, okay, these are
Alan McLaren:people. I need to nurture partnerships. Good to know,
Alan McLaren:influencers, potential customers. When you have that
Alan McLaren:and you're saying, Oh, it's working, and when it works, and
Alan McLaren:in my case, I'm so lucky, I get leads coming in all the time
Alan McLaren:from places i It's not linear, it's abstract, because I'm
Alan McLaren:visible. Stuff comes from everywhere. Someone will
Alan McLaren:recommend me. I don't even know who recommended me on a WhatsApp
Alan McLaren:group somewhere else, in some country, somewhere else. Oh, you
Alan McLaren:got to talk to Alan. Who are they? I don't know how I touch
Alan McLaren:them. So all of those things are the magic that visibility
Alan McLaren:creates if it's done correctly and authentically and big, big
Alan McLaren:piece, don't sell. Never sell. I don't sell a thing. I teach. I'm
Alan McLaren:in service of others. I'm doing a podcast guesting thing in a
Alan McLaren:few weeks, and I was specific on the video. I said, No bait and
Alan McLaren:switch. We're not going to try to sell you a course. At the
Alan McLaren:end, we're in service to you, and if you like it, you'll come
Alan McLaren:back to us and go, these are the people I want to deal with.
Alan McLaren:That's what you do in your business, because that is what
Alan McLaren:differentiates you from everything, including AI.
Scott Ritzheimer:Yeah, yeah. So true. So true. Alan, there's a
Scott Ritzheimer:question that I ask them. I guess I'm interested to see what
Scott Ritzheimer:you have to say, especially in the context of this
Scott Ritzheimer:conversation. But the question is this, what is the biggest
Scott Ritzheimer:secret you wish wasn't a secret at all. What's that one thing
Scott Ritzheimer:you wish everybody watching or listening today knew?
Alan McLaren:So if you did nothing else today, after this
Alan McLaren:podcast, go on your LinkedIn and start commenting on other
Alan McLaren:people's posts. What does that do? Well, there's a
Alan McLaren:reciprocation factor. If I went on your post, Scott and did that
Alan McLaren:say, Who's this? Alan guy. He's pretty insightful. You have to
Alan McLaren:say something insightful, not just great video or like, say
Alan McLaren:something insightful, because then Scott will go, that was an
Alan McLaren:insightful comment. He'll comment back, and then other
Alan McLaren:people will see your comment, because impressions are also
Alan McLaren:measured on a comment. So I did one Gary Vaynerchuk. We've all
Alan McLaren:heard of Gary Vaynerchuk. I don't need to reach Gary
Alan McLaren:Vaynerchuk, but he's got big following. I made a comment. I
Alan McLaren:had almost 600 impressions on the comment. So what am I doing?
Alan McLaren:I'm building my brand. I'm building exposure and people.
Alan McLaren:Oh, then I watch people connecting from that post. So
Alan McLaren:that's the secret, and that requires 15 minutes a week, so
Alan McLaren:I'm really too busy. No, you're not. You can do that. If you do
Alan McLaren:nothing else, do that and you watch it start to build, and you
Alan McLaren:say, Wow, what if I added original content to this? That's
Alan McLaren:what I would say the secret is.
Scott Ritzheimer:So good, so good, so simple, too. Alan, I
Scott Ritzheimer:love that. Alan, there's some folks listening and this just
Scott Ritzheimer:the right thing, right time, right everything. And they want
Scott Ritzheimer:to know how they can help improve their leadership brand,
Scott Ritzheimer:and are wondering how you can help in that process. Where can
Scott Ritzheimer:folks reach out to you if they want to find more and get some
Scott Ritzheimer:of the comment content you talked about today?
Alan McLaren:Yeah, and there's lots. And there's lots of tools
Alan McLaren:we could help you with that are free just to kind of you can go
Alan McLaren:our newsletter and you get lots of great content there, but find
Alan McLaren:me on LinkedIn. Mention that you you heard me on your show, Scott
Alan McLaren:and Alan McLaren on LinkedIn, and just connect with me. Tell
Alan McLaren:me why you know, so that I know it's not no one's trying to
Alan McLaren:pitch me. And I'm happy to help 30 minute conversation for free.
Alan McLaren:Excuse me. Happy to help you, and if you turn out to be
Alan McLaren:someone that we can work with, then we talk about that. That's
Alan McLaren:fantastic.
Scott Ritzheimer:Yeah, fantastic. Great. Alan, thank
Scott Ritzheimer:you for being on the show. It was just a privilege and honor
Scott Ritzheimer:having you here with us today. For those of you watching and
Scott Ritzheimer:listening, you know your time and attention mean the world to
Scott Ritzheimer:us. I hope you got as much out of this conversation as I know I
Scott Ritzheimer:did, and I cannot wait to see you next time. Take care.