As capitalism vs socialism debates become increasingly polarized, Dr John Demartini reveals why opposing extremes naturally emerge to restore equilibrium.
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As you go onto the media today,
Speaker:you sometimes hear no, let me start over.
Speaker:It's not hard to see in
media and social media,
Speaker:the polarities of the far left
and the far right winged political
Speaker:perspectives.
Speaker:And some say there is no way of just
defining it in terms of those two
Speaker:polls. But those are at least two
polls that are commonly seen out there.
Speaker:You might say that one
is way over on the right,
Speaker:which is a little bit
more on the capitalistic,
Speaker:more of the people that are the haves
and the people that usually are the work,
Speaker:the people that have the jobs or the
companies that other people work for.
Speaker:And the other is the people that
usually work in the companies.
Speaker:And they're the ones that are a little
bit more on the socialistic side.
Speaker:Ones that basically want to
Speaker:use economics in their favor 'cause
they have a value on economics and the
Speaker:others have a more of a value on
family and social and physical things,
Speaker:et cetera. So they're two
different value polarities.
Speaker:And there's a whole spectrum in between.
That's why these are just extremes,
Speaker:because really, we all have, each of
us have, somewhere on the spectrum,
Speaker:a combination of the two.
And let me explain why.
Speaker:Whenever you meet somebody you put
on a pedestal and you admire them,
Speaker:and you're too humble to admit
what you see in them inside you,
Speaker:and you minimize yourself.
Speaker:And you're admiring them to such a degree
that you inject some of their values.
Speaker:Values always go from those that are
more empowered to those that are least
Speaker:empowered in society.
Speaker:That's why rules and regulations and laws
all come down from the few at the top
Speaker:that are haves, to the people usually
that are the have-nots, the many.
Speaker:The one the many as we call it.
Speaker:And so anytime you infatuate with somebody
or admire somebody or put them on a
Speaker:pedestal, you'll tend to
inject some of their values.
Speaker:Whenever you attempt to do that,
Speaker:you'll sacrifice your own highest
values to fit into theirs.
Speaker:And when you do, that injected
value you'll attempt to live by.
Speaker:Ralph Waldo Emerson said, beware envy
his ignorance and imitation is suicide.
Speaker:And if you, Freud called it the superego,
Speaker:the internalization of outer authorities
values into your life is called the
Speaker:superego. And it moralizes you.
Speaker:So when you're living according to what
you think you should be according to
Speaker:their values, you feel good and
proud, which is an imposter syndrome.
Speaker:And then when you are don't feel like
you're doing it 'cause you can't sustain
Speaker:it, you'll beat yourself up and feel
shame, which is another imposter syndrome.
Speaker:Anytime you exaggerate or minimize
yourself to another human being,
Speaker:you've got sort of a facade,
a persona, mask that's on.
Speaker:It's not your real authentic self.
Speaker:And your real power is that authentic
one in the middle, the golden mean,
Speaker:as Aristotle said, between the excess
and deficiency of perception of self.
Speaker:But at the same time,
Speaker:you can also look down on people and
think what an idiot and how much a failure
Speaker:they are. And you exaggerate yourself.
Speaker:And now you're too proud to admit
what you see in them is inside you.
Speaker:And now you try to get them
to live in your values.
Speaker:Now you trying to live in other people's
values is futile. It's non-sustainable.
Speaker:Just try to do that.
Speaker:Think about it when you first started a
new relationship with somebody and you
Speaker:attempted to live in their values,
for the first few weeks you tried,
Speaker:but it wasn't sustainable and you started
to resent it and you wanted your life
Speaker:back. The same thing when
you go on to resent somebody,
Speaker:you try to get them to live
in your values and they can't.
Speaker:Anybody's been married
for a period of time,
Speaker:eventually gives up on the
idea of trying to fix the mate.
Speaker:They want to be loved for who they are.
Speaker:And who they are is based on the
whatever's highest on their value,
Speaker:their ontological identity.
Speaker:So anytime you try to change you relative
to others or others relative to you,
Speaker:you have non-sustainable futility.
Speaker:And what happens is when you exaggerate
yourself and look down on people,
Speaker:you tend to be narcissistic. You
want them to do what you want.
Speaker:And you want to be,
Speaker:you're the center of attention 'cause
you puffed yourself up with pride,
Speaker:only to eventually be pulled down.
Speaker:And when you minimize
yourself and exaggerate them,
Speaker:you're down kind of in shame,
you're minimizing yourself.
Speaker:And so eventually you get resentful about
that and you eventually build yourself
Speaker:back up.
Speaker:So either of those
polarities of personas and
Speaker:imposter facades that you wear
eventually come back into the center and
Speaker:oscillate around a mean, which is
your real self. And when you're there,
Speaker:you have sustainable fair exchange
in relationship with people.
Speaker:Now that's the individual, but on
the collective scale, people do that.
Speaker:So when somebody rises up in
power and influence and somehow
Speaker:they can, they can think that
they're superior to somebody else,
Speaker:they can then take their values and
project them onto people and think others
Speaker:are supposed to live in their
values. And so they can,
Speaker:the have's tend to do that
because most people at the,
Speaker:in the lower economics don't get to
have as much influence on the, you know,
Speaker:political arena and the laws and rules
and regulations so the haves typically
Speaker:project, and they tend to be on
the narcissistic side, not all,
Speaker:but there's a tendency
there. And they think,
Speaker:they're proud of themselves and
they stand tall, if you will.
Speaker:And the people that are down
in maybe less economics,
Speaker:they sometimes can be altruistic
and sacrifice. They're giving away,
Speaker:they're working hard and they're giving
away their profits to the people that
Speaker:have.
Speaker:So the ones that haves are the ones that
are playing on the narcissistic side
Speaker:sometimes, even though many of them,
Speaker:I've met some great business people
that are very, very balanced,
Speaker:but that's a tendency.
Speaker:And the people at the
bottom are sacrificing their
lives and barely getting by
Speaker:and giving profits to somebody else. Now,
Speaker:you wouldn't be running a business if
you couldn't get a profit out of the
Speaker:people because it's too risky to take
on that so it's an inevitable process.
Speaker:But the ones that are the haves
typically go towards more of a right wing
Speaker:thinking. They think in
terms of longer term,
Speaker:they think in terms of
economics for the generations.
Speaker:And the other ones are more
immediate gratification, survival.
Speaker:And so in the process of doing
it, they're more socialistic,
Speaker:they're more thinking about how do we,
Speaker:how do we get the government to take
care of us instead of how does the people
Speaker:take care of the government kind
of thing, on the other side.
Speaker:So these two poles, the capitalistic
and the socialistic together,
Speaker:if they go to extremes, they
breed the other. And you see this,
Speaker:if you go to America, for instance,
Speaker:and look at the presidency
and measure the Democrats,
Speaker:which are typically more the real
extreme democratic liberals or,
Speaker:and social,
Speaker:a little bit more socialistic and the
most extreme over here on the right
Speaker:conservatives are going to be a little
bit more capitalistic most likely.
Speaker:And so what's going to happen
is you go back and forth,
Speaker:you get a president that's a democrat
that's a little bit more social and that
Speaker:could be anywhere on the spectrum,
but slants that direction.
Speaker:And then you get over under Republican
and they're a little bit more
Speaker:capitalistic. And these go back and forth.
Speaker:If you look at the history of all the
presidents, they kind of balance out.
Speaker:So you can't have one
without the other over time.
Speaker:If you go to to purely capitalistic,
Speaker:you end up having the have and have-nots
becoming so far apart that you get a
Speaker:dumbbell shaped curve in
the distribution of wealth.
Speaker:And eventually revolutions occur.
'cause People can't afford to live.
Speaker:They create a revolution.
Speaker:And then the extremist on this side
that are radicals come in to try to
Speaker:counterbalance it. And at the same
time, if we go completely over on there,
Speaker:we have, you know,
Speaker:everybody's kind of the peace and open
the doors and immigration and everything
Speaker:we eventually have to come in and do
the other side. Kind of a, you know,
Speaker:the other extreme has to come in.
Speaker:We have to stop and prioritize
who's coming into our country.
Speaker:We have to make sure they're
producing more than they cost.
Speaker:And it gets it back into balance again.
Speaker:So nature forces a balance
between the testosterone and
Speaker:estrogen, the competitive and
cooperative, the war and the peace,
Speaker:the inner directed and outer directed,
Speaker:the capitalistic and socialistic,
the one and the many as they call it.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:when you go to a complete dictator where
you get all the wealth in one hand of
Speaker:plutocracy or an aristocracy or something,
Speaker:you then have people in extreme
properties on the other side.
Speaker:You usually have kind of
irrational tyranny with that.
Speaker:So nature is constantly trying
to strive for a balance,
Speaker:an androgyny of male and female,
Speaker:the one that's cooperative
balancing competitive.
Speaker:So I don't want to make socialism wrong,
Speaker:I don't want to make capitalism wrong.
Speaker:A healthy balance of the
two is what's going to work.
Speaker:And anytime we go to one extreme or
the other, it eventually breaks down.
Speaker:Peter Drucker mentions this in business.
Speaker:And if you go look at the
oscillations in business cycles,
Speaker:you'll see when things are booming, they
start giving daycare centers, you know,
Speaker:in the company, and they start giving
people time off. And then when they get,
Speaker:they get a lot of estrogen if you will.
Speaker:And then when all of a sudden
the market cycle goes down,
Speaker:they trim the fat
the muscle in and then they get the
Speaker:testosterone again. It gets more on
the capitalistic. One is a right brain,
Speaker:which is you're more social and more
people and family oriented and and
Speaker:health oriented. And one is more left
brain, business, finance intellectual.
Speaker:And so they go oscillating back
and forth and both are necessary.
Speaker:And trying to find and strike some sort
of a stable middle, middle class bound,
Speaker:you know, groundedness in
there is what stabilizes.
Speaker:You don't have the dumbbell shaped
curve. You have a bell shaped curve.
Speaker:Mean distribution. So if
you look at them over time,
Speaker:if you look at the capitalistic
and the socialistic sides to it,
Speaker:just go look at all the presidents.
Speaker:You'll see if you go tick them back
and forth and count them all up,
Speaker:they're going to come
pretty close to balance,
Speaker:with a couple middle of the paths,
Speaker:the libertarian and the wigs or
whatever between occasionally.
Speaker:But they're just going
to go back and forth.
Speaker:That's why if you go vote for this
side and you're always about this side,
Speaker:you're going to be pleased
and then displeased,
Speaker:you're going to have a bipolar condition,
Speaker:'cause you're striving for a one-sided
pole instead of understanding that nature
Speaker:must have both, because there has to
be a distribution of values in society.
Speaker:Whatever your values are, there's
somebody with the opposite set of values.
Speaker:So if you're very dedicated to
business, finance and intellect,
Speaker:you're going to keep attracting somebody
that's dedicated to family, social,
Speaker:and physical. One will be a producer,
one will be a reproducer, a consumer.
Speaker:And so consumerism makes more
towards the socialistic side.
Speaker:And the other is more towards the
saver and investor is the one that goes
Speaker:towards the capitalistic side.
So one's deferred gratification,
Speaker:one's immediate gratification.
Speaker:One is a lower socioeconomic
immediate gratification,
Speaker:and one's higher socioeconomic,
more deferred gratification.
Speaker:One is extracting surplus labor out of
people and one is basically sacrificing
Speaker:their labor value to others.
So the have and have nots.
Speaker:What's interesting though, if
you go into the socialistic,
Speaker:if they go to extreme,
Speaker:they're the people that eventually want
the government to take care of them with
Speaker:social welfare. If you go to the other
extreme, they go into building wealth,
Speaker:they end up philanthropic.
Speaker:Almost all the billionaires end up
having to be philanthropic to give money
Speaker:back. So nature is trying to
get that into equilibrium.
Speaker:So I'm not here to try to make one good
or bad. I don't find that productive.
Speaker:I'm just saying that nature's going
to force you to strike a balance.
Speaker:And when we go to poles,
Speaker:we get radical responses and those
are the ones that hit the media.
Speaker:'cause That's what sells. Anything
that's radical sells in the media.
Speaker:That's not necessarily what serves,
that may not what be what's true.
Speaker:And there's a, you know, if
you look at the stock market,
Speaker:the stock market goes up when people
are kind of manic and exuberant,
Speaker:emotionally exuberant, and
then they tend to think, well,
Speaker:they're more optimistic. The
price earnings of a stock
goes up, it's overpriced,
Speaker:but they're, everybody's doing it. So
the late bloomers are coming in. Well,
Speaker:it's all do it. And it rise up
until it eventually has to crash.
Speaker:It then goes down and now it's
undervalued stock and price earnings
Speaker:is low. And now that's when Buffett
comes in and buys up the stock.
Speaker:buy when they, well,
Speaker:the smartest person buys and holds it
and knows that all those oscillations
Speaker:regress to a mean, which is the
intrinsic value of a company,
Speaker:and the same exact thing occurs because
all of that in the market is nothing but
Speaker:the psychology of people in
society. As Prector said,
Speaker:that's just our society's psychology.
Speaker:So if we do something and we know that
nature's going to oscillate between
Speaker:those two,
Speaker:why not have somebody who's a politician
that's intelligent enough to guide a
Speaker:governed system?
Speaker:The the blood glucose and oxygen goes
into the medial prefrontal cortex,
Speaker:which causes the,
Speaker:that executive center to govern
the amygdala's volatilities,
Speaker:the amygdala assigns valency of
positive and negative things and judges
Speaker:politically left and right,
judges this bad good,
Speaker:it's a moral hypocrisy.
Speaker:The person that's executive is the one
that's able to see and manage paradox and
Speaker:see the pair of opposites simultaneously
and not react to either one,
Speaker:but to act on the mission. The mission
is the integration of the two poles.
Speaker:And they're not, as Aristotle said
in his work on excess and deficiency,
Speaker:the vices, there was a
golden mean, a real virtue,
Speaker:the golden virtue inside the middle.
That's the thing that buffet invests in.
Speaker:That's why he has done so well.
Speaker:And Robert Greene talks about
if you can't manage emotions,
Speaker:don't expect to be a leader. If you can't,
Speaker:if you're letting your amygdala run wild
with polarities and biases and tribal
Speaker:thinking and ingroup outgroup
biases and subjective biases and
Speaker:confirmation, disconfirmation
bias, false positive,
Speaker:false negatives and all the thing
that the amygdala does for survival,
Speaker:you're going to go to
one extreme or the other.
Speaker:If you're in the middle and you
understand that both are necessary,
Speaker:you'll be reasonable and understand that
the people that are the have and have
Speaker:nots are valuable, and they both serve.
Speaker:If a company is a bunch of executives
and they got nobody working for them,
Speaker:they're not going to be executives.
Speaker:They only became executives
by the help of the people.
Speaker:So finding that balance
and caring about it,
Speaker:and I've seen individuals that run
companies from that perspective and
Speaker:they thrive.
Speaker:And I've seen them go to the other
extreme and then they have unions and you
Speaker:know,
Speaker:teamster people coming in there to
cause a revolution to get the money
Speaker:redistributed. So you need both. But
either extreme by itself backfires.
Speaker:And this has been known
for centuries, really.
Speaker:And so I'm not here to make
socialism bad or good, or capitalism,
Speaker:good or bad, or any of
the spectrums in between.
Speaker:Just know that they're part of a spectrum
of human behavior and human values and
Speaker:they all are serving.
Speaker:And it's just a matter of are you aware
enough and wise enough to find the mean
Speaker:and not react and not label
and not take a side so much.
Speaker:'cause Every time you take a
side, you create an opposite.
Speaker:There's a law called the
law of Eristic Escalation.
Speaker:Law of Eristic Escalation says, whenever
you take a side with some ideology,
Speaker:an equal and opposite ideology comes
along to counterbalance it, pro-life,
Speaker:pro-abortion, pro guns, anti-guns,
pro-Trump, anti-Trump, this kind of thing.
Speaker:And these are just,
Speaker:all you're doing is taking on a pole and
creating the opposite pole and getting
Speaker:into a conflict. You're in a
debate instead of the dialectic.
Speaker:If you study the dialectic
from Zeno and Hegel,
Speaker:you'll see that there's a
synthesis of pairs of opposites,
Speaker:a unity of opposites that
Heraclitus described, which
is where the real mean is.
Speaker:Even in Christianity, they called
the Christ, they called the logos.
Speaker:And the logos by Heraclitus
was the unity of opposites.
Speaker:And that's why the wisdom of that
statement in Christianity was so powerful.
Speaker:And wisdom is basically seeing
both sides simultaneously.
Speaker:And that way when you do extract income,
Speaker:you appreciate the people
that are helping you do it,
Speaker:and you make sure that they're
taken care of along the way.
Speaker:And so now you've found
a nice blend and balance.
Speaker:And they don't have to have going to
revolutions and conflicts to extremes.
Speaker:So socialism is not evil,
until it's to the extreme.
Speaker:Just like water, too little
water can cause death,
Speaker:too much water can drown you. The
right amount of water is the wellness.
Speaker:That's all. You know, find the rhythm,
Speaker:moderation and consistency
of social political thinking,
Speaker:and you'll find yourself more
stable and less reactive and less
Speaker:sensationally distracted by
media which sells distractions.
Speaker:It sells things that grab your
attention. That's what's about,
Speaker:it's not there to serve. It's there
to sell commercial time.
they're making money off your polarities
of ignorance and your amygdala
Speaker:sometimes. So be aware, be wise.
Speaker:If you live by highest priority,
Speaker:you're more likely to get into the blood
glucose, into the executive center.
Speaker:You're more likely to be moderate.
Speaker:That's why I tell people to go and
identify their values and live moderately,
Speaker:come to my Breakthrough Experience
program where you can learn how to balance
Speaker:out,
Speaker:see the quality of your life's based on
the quality of the questions you ask.
Speaker:If you ask questions that
balance out your perceptions,
Speaker:you liberate yourself from these extremes
and give yourself permission to be
Speaker:empowered. True power is not
one pole or the other.
it's like trying to get a positive pole
without a negative pole or a negative
Speaker:pole without a positive pole
in a magnet. It's futile.
Speaker:Or a coin with one head
without a tails. The same hing.
Speaker:Social political polarities
are by themselves, isolated,
Speaker:are non-sustainable, but put
together and integrated wisely,
Speaker:just like the brain does, the unity
of opposites is where the power is.
Speaker:So give yourself power to not
be swayed by misinterpretations,
Speaker:by ideologies that are biased
and incomplete in awareness.