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20th August 2026 • Beholding Bible Truth • Scott Keffer
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Scott continues the conversation about the intersection of science, the Bible, and faith, featuring insights from Jeff Williams, a retired US Army officer and astronaut. Jeff shares personal experiences from his time in space and discusses how he sees mathematical and natural order in creation as evidence of God's provision. He emphasizes that science and the Bible are not in conflict; rather, the perceived divide arises from underlying philosophical presuppositions about the existence or non-existence of God.

The conversation includes historical perspectives on the development of science, noting that many foundational scientists were committed Christians who saw their scientific work as an extension of fulfilling God's mandate to subdue and steward creation. Jeff also addresses how the supposed conflict between science and religion was fabricated in the late 19th century and perpetuated primarily at the popular level. The episode concludes by reflecting on the significance of wisdom, the role of humanity in studying creation, and the ultimate purpose found in God’s redemptive plan through Jesus Christ.

Key Topics Discussed:

  • Patterns and mathematical order in creation
  • Relationship between the Bible and science
  • Historical foundations of science and faith
  • The myth of a conflict between science and religion
  • Human capacity to study and benefit from creation
  • Wisdom as a gift from God
  • Reflections on Job 28 and New Testament texts
  • Ultimate purpose in God’s providential plan through Jesus Christ

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Scott Keffer [:

Hi, if you're looking for greater hope, assurance, and confidence through the shifting sands of life, then join me on today's episode as we dig deep into the Bible to discover rock-solid truth for life and living from the God of the Bible. I'm your host, Scott Keffer. Hi, and welcome to today's episode. As always, for a deeper experience, you can go to the show notes and download the blank insight sheet Fill in the blanks along with the group. Depending on how you're listening to this, there will be a link to the episode website at beholdingbibltruth.com, and a sheet with the answers is included as well. Enjoy today's episode.

Scott Keffer [:

So we had a surprise visit with John and Bianca last week. You, you all enjoyed that? That was really nice.

Speaker C [:

Great.

Scott Keffer [:

Yeah, so we're going to finish up the video with Jeff Williams. He's a retired US Army officer, played a key role in the design of the International Space Station, 534 days in space. 534 days in space. So we should be, we should be rejoicing in his wife, not, not just him, right? 4 trips to space, 32 hours outside on 5 spacewalks. And he took pictures, as you all remember, and was finishing up here. Let's go. All right. I'll see if I can make this work.

Scott Keffer [:

Everybody's got a sheet?

Speaker C [:

Mm-hmm.

Scott Keffer [:

Okay. Let's see what's happening here.

Jeff Williams [:

Pattern. And you see almost a mathematical pattern. It's— you see the orthogonal lines, you see the large-scale repeating patterns, you see the small-scale repeating patterns. This is a— this could be easily described mathematically. And I've got a math and science background. I love math and science. Sometimes I— or I often get the question, how can you be in the business that you are in science and technology and be a believer? What does that question say? That question says there's a conflict. And my answer is there is no conflict.

Jeff Williams [:

There's absolutely no conflict between the Bible and science. The conflict comes into your philosophical presuppositions going into your science, and it boils down to 2 categories basically. There's lots of variations in those categories, but 2 categories: either there is no God, and I have to explain how everything that exists exists by time over chance, or the other category, there is a God who has created all things and has revealed Himself in His creation. And we know by the grace of God that He has revealed Himself ultimately in the Creator, the Son of God, Jesus Christ.

Scott Keffer [:

Amen.

Jeff Williams [:

That's where the conflict comes in, and we know that very well. That's been our focus this week. But one of my messages, one of my objectives is there is no conflict between science and the Bible, not in classic science, what Ken yesterday called observational science. Real science. Observing, coming up with a hypothesis, testing the hypothesis, doing experiments, looking at the results, comparing that to your hypothesis, adjusting your hypothesis, and so on and so on, and maybe resulting in the discovery of mathematical order, mathematical equations, mathematical laws, or theories, or whatnot. That is science. Let's go on just a little bit, and I want to come back to that theme, the provision in God's creation. Here in this picture, we can see a clear example of a mathematical order in the cloud formations, and it shows up well on this screen behind the clouds.

Jeff Williams [:

Most screens you can't even see the ground here, but you see the agriculture, and agriculture is a very clear example, illustration of the provision in God's creation, our ability to produce food for ourselves to sustain us.

Speaker C [:

Amen.

Jeff Williams [:

And you see many examples from off the planet for— of what we get from God's creative work and provisioning here. This is logging operations in the state of Washington up not too far from Mount St. Helens. Historically, they were logged in square miles, so it looks like a checkerboard laid over the mountainous areas. Or these are fields, grain fields north of Paris. And here, not only do you see the provision in God's creation, but you see elements of history. In the previous example, we saw square miles, and we know how the U.S. was settled and the land grants that were given, and everything is marked off in square miles down to 40-acre plots.

Jeff Williams [:

And, of course, in Europe it's different. So, you see even the patterns are different that reflect the history. of that part of the world. Eastern Europe, another agricultural example. This one jumped out at me just in 2016 during that flight with the bright orange. Turns out this is rapeseed from which, among other things, canola oil is made.

Speaker C [:

That's bad.

Jeff Williams [:

My wife tells me never use canola oil. I used to think there was a canola bean, but the C-A-N in canola actually is Canada. And it's some artificially produced substance originally used for a lubricant, but then they found out they could make it apparently safe for food and consumption. So I apologize to the canola oil producers, but maybe all of you will stop using it now that you know it's a lubricant.

Speaker C [:

That's it.

Jeff Williams [:

But an example of provision of God's creation. Another one, a mine, open pit mine. This one's in either Arizona or Mexico. I can't remember which one this is, but near the border of Mexico. And just think of all the things we get out of the earth in mining operations. Or salt ponds in western China from which, among other things— and I don't know exactly what the operations here in this particular pond are— but among other things, we get things like rare earth elements that are very rare, very critical to technology and you consider it from a biblical worldview, you say, well, there's another example of— I mean, this is a desolate part of the world. Nobody would want to live there. But yet people historically have gone there and they searched out the land and discovered something new and said, what can I do with this?

Scott Keffer [:

Oh.

Jeff Williams [:

Well, let's do some experiments. Let's work on this. Let's see what we can do. Let's transform it. Let's do whatever. And then, oh, here it is. And now we— maybe we can do something else with this. Well, let's put it together with this over here.

Jeff Williams [:

And oh, by the way, as we got from here to here, it behaved this way. What can we do with that? And you can see how on and on and on goes what I would call the scientific method as mankind subdues God's creation and extracts from His creation the provision that He gave in that creation. And not only the plants that grow out of the soil or the ore that we mine in mines, but the mathematical order is so important. Not only think mathematical order, think chemical order, think biological order, think physics. If you don't like math and science, think music. Another example of the order in God's creation is we can only launch on a rocket, produce 7.5 million pounds of thrust, fire the motor for 8 minutes and 53 seconds, and rendezvous with the space station going 17,500 miles an hour because the order is very predictable. And we have the cognitive ability to figure it out over unfolding history. It always amazed me early in my experience at NASA when I was doing a lot of testing of space shuttle software, and I was being in the simulator and going over and over again, Either launches or landings.

Jeff Williams [:

It amazed me always. Okay, we're going to do this simulation. We're going to start in orbit. We're going to end up on the runway at Kennedy Space Center. You could tell within a couple seconds when you were going to— the wheels were going to touch down on the runway before you ever did the deorbit burn to slow down. That's because of the mathematical order. Let me give you a little bit of a history lesson to give you a perspective. There is no conflict between science and the Bible.

Jeff Williams [:

I said that. In fact, modern science as we know it grew out of a biblical perspective, a biblical worldview. The first Great Commission to subdue creation and have dominion over it is exercised in the scientific endeavor and the development of technology. We know names of, for example, Johannes Kepler in astronomy and history in the 16th, 17th century. Robert Boyle in chemistry, Isaac Newton, Newton's laws of motion in classic physics, Michael Faraday in electromagnetics, Louis Pasteur, we pasteurize our milk or we get pasteurized milk, that's from him and his biological work, James Clerk Maxwell in electrodynamics and thermodynamics, and many others from that era from which we have equations and laws and in theories named after them. They're very famous in science. They were all— those names and many others were all theologians first. They were theologians first.

Jeff Williams [:

They were deeply committed to the Christian faith, and they were driven by our faith and their sense of moral obligation to subdue the earth in the way that God had called them in their place and time and circumstance On earth. And they were motivated by 3 presuppositions. First is that creation is rational. There's a rationality in creation. The world is lawfully ordered. That was a presupposition they had going in. Secondly, there was a— in that ordering, there's a precision. And I contend that the precision in the ordering of God's creative work is Infinitely precise.

Jeff Williams [:

Infinitely precise. Sometimes we see chaos, but there's no chaos. There's a precise ordering in everything, and we're only limited by our ability to measure that precision. I say that because then it helps us understand history, the history of technology development, the history of technological progress as we talk it. And man's ability, bearing the image of God, so given by God, and even the drive, even the drive that man has to search, to understand, to contemplate, to discover, to develop, all of that is understood in a biblical worldview. And if you're committed to the presupposition that there's a precision here, It's repeatable. Once you learn to understand it, it's predictable. Then you can make application.

Jeff Williams [:

That's what drove the scientists in the age of science. That's why science blossomed so much in the Western world after the Reformation. The 3rd presupposition, very important, harder to understand, they presupposed what is called the contingency of nature. That is, the laws of nature are not intrinsic, but they're imposed on creation by the Creator, imposed by God. They don't— they're not obvious to us. As we look at creation, those laws are not obvious. They're not understandable by reason only. Reason only is insufficient.

Jeff Williams [:

They have to be searched out. A right understanding of God's design and His governance Yes. Requires observation, experimentation, coming up with hypotheses, testing the hypotheses, measuring, all of those things, all of the scientific activities. The universe does not have its own inherent rationality. That's the point. But it is intelligible because it reflects God's rationality. God's intelligence. Science was a way, was a means to understand, to search that out, and to subdue God's creation, and to put on display how God had revealed Himself.

Jeff Williams [:

Let me give you a little illustration of the contingency of nature. You might have heard, or not, there are 4 fundamental forces that are considered to govern all of creation, all of the universe. They include gravity, very familiar to us. They include electromagnetism, which is pretty familiar to most of us. They also include 2 others called the weak force and the strong force, which are atomic in scale, so most of us haven't been introduced to that, but basically it's— the strong force is what holds atoms together. Those 4 forces have been observed over time and verified by experimentation to be those primary forces that govern all of creation. But nobody understands how they work. Nobody.

Jeff Williams [:

You'll hear theories of quantum mechanics and so on and theory of relativity, but those are theories. Nobody explicitly understands those forces, but they've been discovered, they've been measured, etc. science has done that, and it's actually a mystery of the Creator, I believe. So the conclusion of that little science— that glimpse into science is that the universe is both rational and intelligible. It is accessible to mankind who, bearing the image of God, have been given the capacity to search it out. That's a biblical worldview. One of the names I mentioned was James Clerk Maxwell. He lived in the 1800s.

Jeff Williams [:

He was born in Scotland. He entered the University of Edinburgh at age 16. As I mentioned earlier, his most famous work was in electromagnetism and thermodynamics. By age 40, he was elected to a professorship at Cambridge. By the way, a lot of these guys came out of England, Cambridge University, Oxford. That's an amazing study in history as well. But Maxwell— and I knew him from way back in the military academy because of Maxwell's equations in electromagnetism. That's how I knew who he was.

Jeff Williams [:

I didn't know his history. He designed at Cambridge and supervised the construction of what was called the Cavendish Laboratory, and carved in these big heavy wooden doors of the entrance of this laboratory was Psalm 111, verse 2. Great are the works of the Lord, studied by all who delight in them. If you look at that Psalm, these are not commands for us to study and delight. These are descriptive words of the works of God in the believer, the one assembled in the congregation in verse 1. In other words, the works of God are studied works. We naturally study the works of God if we're a believer, and believers are delighting believers. So it's a reminder that we are all scientists in that respect.

Jeff Williams [:

We all have a duty and obligation to see and to grow and to contemplate and to give thanks to God for the provision of His works, the work of His hands.

Speaker C [:

Amen.

Jeff Williams [:

in creation, in provision, in providence, understandable all through His work of redemption. All Christians are scientists in that sense. Like I said, Maxwell was a man of deep Christian faith. For a time, he served as an elder in his church. After his death, there was a prayer, a written prayer among his papers found. I want to read it. Maxwell wrote, Almighty God, who created man in Thine own image and made him a living soul that he might see seek after Thee and have dominion over Thy creatures. Teach us to study the works of Thy hands, that we may subdue the earth to our use and strengthen the reason for Thy service, and so to receive Thy blessed Word that we may believe on Him who Thou hast sent to give us the knowledge of salvation and the remission of sins, all of which we ask in the name of the same Jesus Christ our Lord.

Jeff Williams [:

These great— greatest of all scientists, in my opinion, in the 18th and 19th century believed that God had created an ordered and coherent universe, and it was the duty of man to subdue it by studying it and exploiting what that provision gave. It leads to the obvious question, why Why is there a conflict? Why the conflict? Well, Phil rehearsed a little bit of history, the age of Darwin, the Age of Enlightenment, all of that. So, and all of that is familiar to us. There's another little aspect of the history I want to highlight today, and I encourage you to take some notes and go do your own research. It's easy to find. Just do the search on the internet, and you'll find some of these details. Because most of us grew up with the notion that science Clearly proved the Bible to be wrong, or mythical, or obsolete. We've all heard that.

Jeff Williams [:

We've all grown up with it. Perhaps some of us even still believe it. Perhaps it still threatens our faith. It's so familiar that many don't even challenge it. They just passively accept it.

Scott Keffer [:

Amen.

Jeff Williams [:

accepted. But it turns out the so-called war between science and the Bible was largely invented 150 years ago and then effectively propagated primarily at the popular level, not at the academic level, although it's there, but propagated at the popular level. In the late 19th century, there was a very public, very visible to the public, British atheist scientist by the name of Thomas Huxley, and that name's familiar to many of you. He was known as Darwin's bulldog. He organized an effort to overthrow the cultural dominance of Christianity. That was his goal, his— to secularize society, to establish a scientific naturalism. in effect to disseminate an ideology, a secular religion. That was his goal.

Jeff Williams [:

He led that effort. And to support that goal, the perceived war between science and religion was largely fabricated and popularized by 2 men. You probably haven't heard of them. And they were inspired by Darwin's publication of On the Origin of Species and others. The first one is— his name is John William Draper. He wrote a book called A History of the Conflict Between Religion and Science. He published it in 1874, and he presented a history of science as a narrative of conflict between the progressive power of science with the regressive and repressive power of religion. And many of us have heard that argument.

Jeff Williams [:

Draper was his name. Another man by the name of Andrew Dickson White, he was the founding president of Cornell University. And when he was installed in office, he declared that Cornell would be an asylum for science where truth shall be sought for truth's sake, not stretched or cut exactly to fit revealed religion. And he argued that history showed that religion was holding back science. His culminating work was entitled A History of the Warfare of Science with Theology in Christendom. And in it, he juxtaposes the light of historical truth, that is science, with what he called the decaying mass of outworn thought which is attached to the modern world and medieval conceptions of Christianity. We've all heard that argument. They were published as historical works of science.

Jeff Williams [:

Now shortly after that, not long after that, the academic world of historians that studied the history of science debunked their work as largely fabricated. There were gross distortions. They were rejected by historians subsequently, but the war has survived, as I said earlier, in popular thinking. It was a very successful propaganda campaign. So one of the tools that we have as believers is to go back and refresh ourselves on that history, refresh ourselves on the history of the age of science and those believing scientists and their motivations and what they discovered and all what the fruits of their labor that we enjoy and take for granted. This thing that we all have in our pocket or our pocketbook is a great example. Of that. What is the basic element here if you went just down the basics? It's silica.

Jeff Williams [:

That's why they call it Silicon Valley. What is silica? It's sand. Sand, the basic element from which a computer chip is fabricated. And then you take that, you take all the other materials, you see how it's all put together, and then you take— go into the electromagnetism and the order of of that, and we take this starting out with sand and a lot of people, a lot of thinking, a lot of development, a lot of subduing of God's creation, even though many of those people don't know that they're doing that in response to the Creator's mandate. But then we send signals throughout the world, and we all get information almost instantaneously. We communicate internationally nowadays. It's a product of this, and it needs to be understood in a biblical worldview. That's the result.

Jeff Williams [:

That's how we see these things. It's not a conflict. Go back and let's strengthen our understanding of the history of science, and let's also strengthen our understanding of what happened in the Age of Enlightenment to include fabrication of this war on science. It will be a great tool for us. Well, let me get through a few more pictures.

Scott Keffer [:

Provision.

Jeff Williams [:

This one was fascinating because as you orbit the Earth at that speed, there's a point on the globe of the Earth where the sun reflects off water, and it travels very fast. So I was always looking at— we called it sun glint— where the sun's glint was passing over the water because you could get some beautiful pictures. And this happens to be fish ponds in Egypt. And I found out after the flight doing some research that here they grow mostly tilapia. for the European market. But just another example of the development of using the resources of God's creation, of man bearing His image, extracting from the provision found in His creation. We can understand history this way as well. Here's the Nile River Delta in Egypt, and we know the biblical account of history and the role that Egypt played in history.

Jeff Williams [:

We see here the provision that comes out of irrigated land with the contrasting colors between the Delta itself and the desert around. We see other parts of the biblical history, of course, the early life of Christ, of course the birth of the nation of Israel. There's lots of things that we can see from our vantage point putting this all together. And I want you to consider this as components of the unfolding... unfolding providential history of God heading toward a purpose, right? And that's the other way, the other aspect that we need to see these things, our lives. Each of us have been appointed in our time and place and circumstances and uniquely called to faith in Christ and then uniquely called to all the other offices that we have in life for a purpose and we're on that path of unfolding history toward the ultimate purpose, and we'll come back to that in a minute. Here's a close-up picture of near the previous one, but see if I can get— oh, I got this to work. Right there you see 2 squares.

Jeff Williams [:

Those are the pyramids. You can't quite see them with the naked eye, but with a big 800-millimeter lens you can pick them out. But just another example from our vantage point. Fast forward in history. Of course, we've got lots of history. New York City is a symbolic place in the world in terms of finances and economics and whatnot. If we want to try to apply a worldview into not only the history of the world but civilization and what happens, you know, economically and all of that, we can do that. We can apply the Bible, the Scriptures to all those aspects of life.

Jeff Williams [:

This is, you could say, a culmination, if you will, of man subduing the earth and extracting what God placed in provision in His creation and man's ability to extract from it. So, beautiful picture. You can see all the ships in the New York Harbor. Central Park stands out there and the island of Manhattan. You can even pick out Ground Zero. This one was taken in 2016, I believe.

Scott Keffer [:

2016.

Jeff Williams [:

Ground Zero had been restored with the new structures, but just another example. So going back to those 2 things I laid side by side, one was on our minds, one was Psalm 111 and the works of God, the works of His hands, and the other was this. And hopefully you have a little bit of a sense how we can put it together, how we can apply a biblical worldview understanding to how and why this can be accomplished, things like this. Of course, as I said, we can only understand that through the lens of Scripture and with eyes that have been opened by the grace of God, the work of the Spirit. And from our vantage point every day, we'd pass over this part of the world where from— in one moment you could see the entire landscape of biblical history. And in this view here, also see the entire life of Christ and reflect on the history that's recorded in the New Testament of the life of Christ and contemplate those things. And this only has meaning Of significant meaning through that lens, through understanding the Scripture. God created the heavens and the earth.

Jeff Williams [:

He created it for our habitation. Isaiah 45 affirms that God created the earth not without purpose, but for our habitation.

Scott Keffer [:

Amen.

Jeff Williams [:

And He gave provision, and He gave man the ability to exploit that provision. Stephen Charnock, a Puritan from the 17th century, wrote this, all things in the world, all things in the world, one way or another, center in the usefulness for man, some to feed him, some to clothe him, some to delight him, Some to instruct him, some to exercise his intelligence, and others his strength. That's how we should, as Christians, should see the world around us. God has given us all of this. He's given us certain abilities, certain opportunities to exploit the provision according to the mandate given Psalm 111 ended with the fear of the Lord. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. I've come to believe that the fear of the Lord you could consider as a synonym to faith, to saving faith, because by nature we're not going to fear the Lord. By nature we're going to hate Him.

Jeff Williams [:

We're going to exclude Him. So the fear of the Lord is— The beginning of wisdom. It's granted to us by grace. It's not something we achieve. I would encourage you, I'll give you this as homework because I'm running short on time. Go to Job 28 in the homework, and I'll just give you a little synopsis of Job 28. The first half of the chapter describes, and you may not see it at first glance, but hopefully after this discussion you'll see it. It describes 2 things.

Jeff Williams [:

It describes the provision that's in God's creation, and it's in the setting of mining ore out of the mountain, deep shafts. It talks about gold and silver and iron ore. It talks about growing food out of the earth. So it speaks of the truth of how God has provisioned His creation.

Speaker C [:

Amen.

Jeff Williams [:

But you also have the miners in the first half of Job 28, and it acknowledges the uniqueness of the ability that God has given man to search out His creation, to explore, to discover, to find, to burrow in the mountains, to dig a deep shaft and discover what's there and find it useful in unique ways and then get it out. It references damming up a stream. It also acknowledges that the animals have no concept of that. You know, it talks about lions, talks about birds. They don't care. They don't know. They don't— they have no cognitive ability. It's unique to man bearing His image.

Jeff Williams [:

But then halfway through that chapter of Job 28, There's that word that we always need to pay attention to where we kind of sit up on our seat. It says, but. But where can wisdom be found? And then it goes into the description of we know of it, we know it's there, we've heard a rumor of it. God knows where it is. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

Speaker C [:

Amen.

Jeff Williams [:

So the first half talks about the ability of man, and we can attain so much given our natural God-given ability, but we cannot attain on our own wisdom, true wisdom. It must be granted to us by grace. That's what Paul talks about in 1 Corinthians 1 and 2. That's what Paul talks about in Colossians chapter 2. As Christ being our wisdom. It's alluded to in Proverbs 8 where wisdom is personified as a master workman who was at God's side when He marked out the foundations of the earth. We're very familiar with John 1, the word Logos. The Logos was life, and the life was the light of men.

Jeff Williams [:

The Logos created all things. Not anything was created that wasn't created by the Logos.

Scott Keffer [:

Amen.

Jeff Williams [:

the Logos. That helps inform our understanding in what we've been talking about, what we've been considering. Logos, obviously the Word, right? The Word, the Word. It was very familiar to the Jewish mind because the Word of God was repeated and affirmed and given throughout history of the Old Testament. But it had— that Greek word Logos had a unique connotation to the Greek mind. It was the Logos. Basically, it was used as the rationality that explained the existence of all things. It was what we know intuitively.

Jeff Williams [:

There's a reason everything exists. There's a cause, a first cause. This is the effect, as John reminded us yesterday. It's a rationality. It's a reason. It's a purpose. It's a power and a force that's outside of creation. That rationality has been revealed to us in the person of Jesus Christ, and that's John's point.

Jeff Williams [:

In Hebrews 1, it speaks of the Son, that God has spoke to us in His Son whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds, who is the radiance of the glory and the exact representation of His nature. and upholds all things by the word of His power. I love that word upholds. Paul uses— he sustains it, right? He sustains. He upholds the works of creation. That word uphold in the Greek conveys an idea of bringing forward or progressing in time toward a purpose. So He is upholding His creation as in providence the unfolding history occurs that culminates in a purpose. What is the ultimate purpose? The ultimate purpose of God from eternity past is in unfolding time to redeem a people of His own and then to gather them together in time to form them in what the Bible calls the body of Christ or the bride of Christ, that the Son goes to redeem, and purchase and suffer and die for, and then in God's unfolding providence to collect, to bring to faith, to be granted the wisdom to unfold, if you will, those entries in the Book of Life and those names written in the Book of Life.

Speaker C [:

Amen.

Jeff Williams [:

to be presented as the bride of Christ. That's our purpose. That's our worldview. That's how we ought to see this work of science and technology and whatever else is unique in our place on earth. I want to— that, by the way, is Aurora. I could talk a lot on that, right? Awe and wonder, electromagnetism, unknown phenomena. How does that work? The contingency of nature. I want to end, and then I'll close with prayer.

Jeff Williams [:

I want to end with a short video. It's about a 3-minute video, and it's the best example that I have visually that invokes some of the things that we've been talking about. invokes maybe in a new way the awe and wonder of the wisdom and the power and the majesty of our Creator who is also our Redeemer, Jesus Christ. Let's watch this video and then I'll close with prayer. I think we'll advance. Here we go.

Speaker C [:

We're walking in the air. We're floating in the moonlit sky. The people far below are sleeping as we fly. I'm holding very tight. I'm gliding in the midnight blue. I'm finding I can fly so high above with you.

Jeff Williams [:

Dear Heavenly Father, we, uh, come before you with a renewed sense of your majesty and the wisdom.

Scott Keffer [:

Okay, how's that?

Jeff Williams [:

Wow.

Scott Keffer [:

As he sits above He sits above the vault of the earth. He stretches out the heavens like a curtain. He spreads them out like a tent to dwell in. All right, so write down an insight that you got. Insight, thought, question, comment. So the unique perspective is he's saying— which I hadn't thought about that, and, um, yeah, Beth was talking about this last week— he's saying not only has God created the universe, but he's created man with the ability to study the universe. That's part of God's provision, not just the provision of creation, but that we have the ability to even study it or desire to study it or capacity to study it. That in and of itself, right? I mean, the bears aren't doing scientific experiments to see, hey, where's the, you know, where's the honey come from? So, 2 thoughts.

Scott Keffer [:

It says that all things were created through him, in him, and through him, the Lord Jesus Christ, right? And he upholds all things by the word of his power, and he upholds all things, and in him all things hold together. So he upholds all things, and in him all things hold together. So here's the question. If that's true of all things, you think he can hold all things together in your life? That he can uphold all things, which means move them together with progress for a purpose, right? And hold them together, which means they're not out of control. They feel out of control, but they're not out of control. When I consider the heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars which thou hast ordained, what, what is man that thou dost take thought of him, or the son of man that thou dost care for him?

Speaker E [:

And so, Father, we stand in awe of you, and all we see really just a glimpse of your power and a reminder that you spoke into being. By the word of the Lord the heavens were made, and by the breath of his mouth all their host. In you and through you, Lord Jesus, and you uphold them all, and you hold them all together. It says at the end, so that you would come to have first place in everything. And so strengthen, right? Help our unbelief to know that the God who upholds all things together, the God who knows and has named every star, billions and billions of stars, knows our name.

Scott Keffer [:

Amen.

Speaker E [:

Wrote our name into the Book of Life, that, that God is upholding our life, our plans, our purposes, our journey, and that you are holding all things together for us, in us, through us, Lord. And so we're grateful for the great display, the science show that you've made so that we can see your greatness, your power, just a glimpse of it, Lord.

Scott Keffer [:

Amen.

Speaker E [:

Just a glimpse of it, to peek into the glory of our God who is beyond comprehension, the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of Kings who dwells in unapproachable light, eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God. And so we bless you today. And for each of us, Lord, for each of us, I pray that continue to let the eyes of our heart be enlightened. The eyes of our heart be enlightened, that you'd give to us the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of you. And as a result, we would rest, as King David said, like a weaned child, Lord, just leaning our life, our future, our hopes, our dreams upon you. So bless us and keep us. And I pray for each one here, Lord, that you would bless them and keep them, cause your face to shine upon them.

Jeff Williams [:

Amen.

Speaker E [:

Lift up your countenance and grant you shalom in their soul, that they, they would know, know for certain that you uphold them, you sustain them, you have a purpose and a plan.

Scott Keffer [:

One day we'll see you face to face and be made like unto you.

Speaker E [:

In the meantime, give his eyes to see.

Speaker C [:

Amen.

Scott Keffer [:

Amen.

Scott Keffer [:

Thanks for listening. I hope you have greater hope, assurance, and confidence in your life and a deeper trust in the God of the Bible and His Son, Jesus Christ. Until next time, may the Lord bless you and keep you. May the Lord make His face to shine upon you and be gracious to you. And may the Lord lift up His countenance on you and give you His peace, His shalom, in your soul and in your life. Until next time, may God bless you and keep you.

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