INTERVIEW EXCLUSIVE!

Hash had the wonderful privilege of sitting down with the one: the only: Yeti Blanc! Producer for the Greg Cote Show with Greg Cote, co-founder of the Yes! Maybe? No. podcast and overall legend. We talk the beauty of the PNW, fried chicken and root beer, the Braves winning the World Series, and eventually sink into the darker sides of nostalgia... Most importantly, we ask the question that needs to be asked: is Burger King just a cocaine front?

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But I had a lot of good times making music in Bellingham, but being in the Pacific Northwest and trying to make hip hop. It's just not a - not an area for it.

Yeti 8:19

There's not many that have done it. I mean, you've got you know, Sir Mix A Lot Of course, and, and Blue Scholars to a point. That's the those are the only groups from out there that I could name.

Colin 8:31

I mean, yeah. And and now you have Macklemore you know, yeah,

Yeti 8:34

I've tried ignoring him. But

Colin 8:38

yeah, I executive produced this album for this one of my buddies in Seattle, he's a hip hop artist named Wizdumb. And he's underground doesn't you know, he's not big by any means. But he's friends with Macklemore and has known Macklemore for like a long time. And so he watched that dude blow up and stuff and so hearing some of the stories from like, behind the scenes and you know, apparently he's a really nice guy and all that stuff. I remember seeing him in play in alleys in Bellingham, you know, just like no one there and stuff like that before he got famous. But yeah, I cannot get down with his music. Now. To me, it's like it's like the equivalent of like, just a corporate, you know, boardroom commercial type of thing where everything is thought out and they're like, Oh, how will this land with this group? And you know, just all of that stuff and it loses all of the soul?

Yeti 9:30

Yeah, What I will say though, is and I've only listen ed to it once, but as My Oh My song and I watched for that and like, that got the feeling going, that my feelings going a little bit, but that has less to do with him and more to do it just what you know, he was evoking with Niehaus.

Colin 9:47

Yeah, yeah. No, Dave Niehaus and that's the voice of my childhood. You know, I mean, I listen to Mariners games fucking the entire summer. You know, my dad always had that on in the shop.

Yeti 9:55

First and foremost, I'm sorry that you fell in love with the Mariners because that's a painful relationship.

It is. It is.

Yeah, we had the, you know, the ALDS win in 95. And that's like all we've ever had and then you know, meeting up against the Yankees or the Indians, you know, just always getting bashed. And I'm actually interviewing David Sampson next month. One of the things that I want to talk to him about is like will I die having seen the mariners win? You know? Like is that a possibility or

Will that happen in your lifetime.

Right you know, because at this point in my life I'm like no, you know, like they're just it's they're gonna be the one team that will never get the World Series and that's just gonna is gonna be how it is.

They almost had team of destiny stuff this past season though.

So close...

Like if they had made it into the playoffs they would have had that team of destiny feeling because it's like there really shouldn't be there but like they put they got things cooking right at the right time and like it but they just couldn't quite do it that last game.

Yeah, the the most exciting Mariners memories I've had in the last, you know, five years have all been end to season pushes for that wildcard spot and we never get it. But you know, there's always some really exciting games.

Little bit of excitement, right?

Yeah, yea. Not always either.

So yeah, I got I mean, I got to watch Ichiro play for a couple of years while I was out there, that was cool. Griffey came back while you know he wasn't the same but still, I got to watch. I gotta tell my kids I got to watch Ken Griffey Jr. play baseball. You know, I got to be there for a few of those games. But then after I left, you know, they brought on Dustin Ackley and, and then shortly thereafter, Kyle Seager, and they're both from the same region in North Carolina that I'm from so like, that was extra cool to be able to have some guys that are kind of hometown. And then the bass player from my old band, his little brother actually played in college with one of the Seager brothers. It wasn't um, it wasn't Corey. It was the the other one wasn't called, wasn't Corey. It was,

There's a third?

there is a third. And they both played UNC Charlotte together, and they were good friends. But so like, it was just cool being having a little bit of still some not only North Carolina representation, but my part of North Carolina representation on the team. And so a little bummed to see Kyle, you know, call it quits, but I don't blame him one bit. You know, yeah, I'm gonna be able to stay a Mariner like the fact that he's like, No, I'm good. I've accomplished what I need. What I needed to

Yeah, I'm sure that he you know, talk to his wife and was like, do we want to try to relocate or, you know, like, with the kids growing up and stuff, you know, I'm sure that they just want to stay there. It's a nice area for for raising kids.

Yeah, if you can afford it, it's incredible. You there's always something to do and, and the secret to it is realizing that the rain doesn't have to stop you from doing anything. And then you can have a really good time and that that's what it was for me. It didn't take me long. It took me a little bit to figure it out. And then when the sun comes out, I mean, it's really hard to find a prettier place in this that I've ever been. It's so gorgeous. And

Yeah, I mean, when you're in like the certain spots, on like cap Capitol Hill on like, over towards Ballard and stuff and you you know, look west you see the Olympic Peninsula and the Olympic Mountains and then you look east you see the Cascades and there's snow on both sides. You see Lake Washington to the east, you see the Puget Sound to the West and you're just like, it's crazy. You know what I mean? It's unlike anything else and it makes sense why it's being - why people are flocking to it.

Yeah, I got engaged at Golden Gardens actually speaking of Ballard that's where that's where I proposed on the waterfront at Golden gardens but that's where we got our like our pictures taken and everything later on for announcements and stuff, but I really liked going down to that place it was a cool little cool little area.

Yeah, I've spent I have family - have multiple cousins that live in Seattle, you know, growing up just north and I would travel down to Seattle all the time in high school and stuff and -

Yeah,

- go to concerts and such

Well your from Deathcab-ville.

Technically. They don't want to claim it though. You know?

I've always heard Ben claim Bellingham. He might not say that's where the band is from now. But like, anytime I hear him talk, he always references Bellingham.

Okay, well, there was a time when I'm pretty sure that they were like, trying to be like, No, we're from Seattle. And that might have just stuck. I mean, because that was you know, probably when I was still in high school and stuff. But yeah, I mean, I was never a Death Cab fan, but I will say that Postal Service album is really fucking good.

It is, but But Death Cab - like, Ben has yet to disappoint me. Now, I've never really been able to get into - like there's some of the earlier stuff that I'm fine with that I like I've never been able to get into. I just haven't been able to find the right group for their their pre Transatlanticism stuff. But that's that's the album that drew me in. My friend said check this out. And I did and I was like, Holy crap. I love this. And they've not disappointed me ever since even the album's that a lot of their diehards don't like, I still really like a lot. And so yeah... But then it's, I draw a direct line from him to John Lennon. So it kind of fixes that for me a little bit, or gives me that fix a little bit. So

I hear that. I have a love hate relationship with John Lennon. And sometimes I sometimes I think that's natural. I feel like anyone that does like a deep dive into him.

He likes being polarizing, though.

That's very true. And yeah, I mean, you know, sometimes you just can't deny, like, when they're putting out art like that, you're like, well, that, you know,

He's a totally problematic individual. I mean, but yeah, like, you know, there are things there are songs of his that i just - I absolutely detest Imagine. I don't like that song one bit.

I hate that song too. High five to that.

Yeah. Well, and Mark, "Mark, formerly of Reddit." Now the LebaFan. What it was the LebaFan defector or turncoat, that's what Dan called it - the LebaFan turncoat. But you know, Mark, he put it really well when he was like, Imagine no possessions while you're seeing this from your luxury Manhattan apartment, you know, and I was like, Yeah, it's Zagacki. You know, it it's that that's, that's really it and, and, and really, it was like he was all about trying to shape his image is this super hyper individualistic person, but then he's singing the song that says, maybe we can all live in peace if we take away everything that makes us individual, like no, that's that's not how you find peace. You find peace by choosing peace in spite of our differences, and the things that make us embracing what makes us individual and choosing love over the hate and anger and, you know, but uh, so yeah, I I, it's a beautiful melody. And the chorus is gorgeous and stuff, but like the overall - like I agree with what he wants, but how we get there is a different totally damning thing. So that Yeah, but but but then there are things he does that I absolutely think are just incredible. And so

Yeah, my girlfriend. She just watched the GET BACK documentary, which I still haven't watched yet, but I kind of have a a feud, ongoing feud, one sided feud going on with Peter Jackson. So I still haven't watched GET BACK. I am still upset about the Hobbits. Okay?

Oh, really? The Hobbits didn't bother me at all. The Lovely Bones. I hated that movie. And I was like, really? This was you? This is Peter Jackson? Come on...

Well, King Kong. I mean, my buddy actually asked me today while I was at work, he was like, Have you ever walked out of a movie? And I said, well, the closest I ever got was King Kong. The Jack Black King Kong.

Yeah, it was -

It was so long! I was like ohhhhhh...

And I if I felt nothing, I barely remember anything of it. You know,

I remember there was a lot of footage of the monkey and the woman like staring lovingly at each other with like, with the CGI. Fucking...

It felt hoakey.

- going on in the back. And it was just like, he is really hammering into this, like, the monkey loves this, this woman. And it's like, well, we get that, you know, you don't need to beat us over the head with it. Right? Yeah, Peter Jackson is one of those dudes where I have a I have a lot of beef with him because I feel like he just chooses - at least at this point. I feel like he's just choosing, you know, going off the whole nostalgia and the purpose of like, you know, the deep dives of this, I feel like he loved Lord of the Rings so much growing up on it, right? That the movies that he made - I know Jessica would hate me if she was hearing this right now - but the movies that he made were not based on the actual texts, and more based on his recollection of the texts, right? And so, memory is one of those really interesting things where memory changes over time, depending on how you are feeling when you go back and visit that memory, right? And so if you go back and like, make something great, like and continue to, like, just say, it's great, and like, turn him he like, I felt like Peter Jackson turned these characters into deities, and stuff like that. And part of the reason that the hobbit that Frodo was such a, he was such a good hero was because he was kind of just like the every person, he had no powers and stuff like that. But I feel like there was a lot of just in the way that he shot it like this Angelicus to it, where he is like, they're actually like moments where it's just like, there's this white light and aura and everything's like washed and he puts like, really like a bunch of slomo into it. And you're just like, okay, but my theory is -

that he's epicing his ass off is what it is instead of acting his ass off. He's epicing. It's epic.

Yeah, it's something like that. And so it's one of those things where I grew up, when I saw the movies, I loved them. And then just as I watched them as I got older, you know, just going -

I've never been able to re watch them all the way through.

It's tough, right? And so that part of the reason I realized I was like, I have to figure this out. I'm like, what is it that's really bothering me about this? And so, you know, my, my girlfriend, Celina, she was like, she really wanted to watch him. So I watched them with her. And I figured out it's just there's a lot of slow motion, like, unnecessary slow motion, or like Frodo saying something and it's just like, oh, okay, Sam, and you're like WHY?!, You know, just like, it's it just makes it but, I mean, like, the casting is obviously like really good. In a lot of elements. I mean, I still think that Orlando Bloom is a little I don't know for like, really, like, he like embodied it well, but he like he plays it just so one note, you know what I mean? This it's it's it's I don't know. Its a love hate, as you can tell, love hate relationship

Welcome to Ruining Your Childhood folks. Yeah. It falls in love introducing other people.

Welcome to Cinephobe here - So one thing I wanted to ask you is how you got into podcasts and podcast production, like what drew you into this world and how you entered it and stuff

So my best friend or one of my best friends, Andrew Streeter. He had no not he and I have known each other for almost 20 years now. We, you know, we were we were friends, we lost contact for a while, but we rekindled our friendship over the Le Batard show, we found out that he just back when I used to be on Facebook back when I was. And I mean, I've Yeti Blanc account, but I don't do anything with it. But back when I had my back when I had my formal Facebook account, yeah. I stumbled across I think he said something or he saw me say something like in my status update or something like that, that clued in that signal that oh, yeah, we're both fans of the Le Batard show. So he messaged me on Facebook Messenger. And we started talking about the show. And that turned into us pretty much like talking every day, like just just messaging back and forth everyday about the show. And so like, really, I mean, like, for a long time, it's we would message back and forth almost daily, we still do almost daily, it's it's just we're both in a real busy point in our lives right now. But like, I mean, it's still you know, two or three times a week minimum, you know, that we're messaging back and forth and have long text threads. We rarely talk I don't have his phone number. That's just kind of a gag. We we realized that after about two years of messaging back and forth, and I was like, let's just not let's keep that going. And just for fun, he has mine somewhere in his in his history because he came to visit and so in case you lose signal, here's my number. If you lose internet, here's my here's my number if you need to call figure out how to get here. But anyway.

Um, and so you know, that evolved over the years and then in 2020 i i finally put out A parody song that I had been working on for three years, I had it written and I just never recorded it. And so we're all kind of in lockdown at the beginning of the pandemic. And so I wrote, I finally put together The Fine Song to the tune of Billy Joel's, For the Longest Time and made it "that is fine." And so it blew up it took it got played on the air. It took off and then Andrew came back and over the weekend is like, you know, because he did the classic Oh, if he can do it, I can do and he's right. Andrew is much better than I am. He's more talented and he actually has an audio engineering degree. So him producing things happened much faster. me like it's painstaking, laborious, just to come up with something kind of halfway mediocre. And but that was good. So the song wars began then Fleminem joined in and start you know, and that between the three of us we both put a lot of content that year in song parodies but that got me I was I was in my studio, we had moved into a new house and I had had a bonus closet and my wife said yes cool, you can use that for your studio. So I was very grateful. And so I built that out and and started doing the doing the songs and everything and I -

Had your closet studio...

Yeah, closest studio. Started doing some songs. Andrew started getting more airplay the me and I got really competitive about that in jealous so I started putting up more songs. Song words began, blah, blah, blah. Oh, yeah. So Andrew and I, for a couple of years before that had been talking about doing a show, I was like we should we should start our own little podcast and and we had no idea what it would be about what you know, like, he wanted to find a niche. And I wanted to just kind of keep it really open and and free flowing. And and then it turned into we kept talking about it so much. But never doing that it basically turned into a joke. But this is the show we'll never do but we come up with bit ideas and, and little segment ideas and stuff like that. And, and but never would do anything with it. And that was just kind of our thing. Okay, just even talking about it was enough of a creative thing for us. Well, then all the crew that is now known as Lour After Hours, they started their own thing. And I said, Hey, can I be in on this too. And I think I didn't even I don't think I knew that they were going to continuously try to produce episodes. At that point. It was just I just mainly wanted to get on their zoom chats with other fans and have someone to talk to so my wife. So don't annoy her, you know, because she couldn't care less. Yeah. And so I'm so joined in with them ended up doing a couple of episodes that they really, you know, a couple zoom calls, and they end up actually releasing them. Okay, cool and made some fake commercials with them. And, and that was fun. But it got to be I just couldn't keep up with the recording schedule. But I had the idea through that it kind of got the gears working. And so you know, the whole Le Batard rejoin where they're debating "is Saban the best? is Saban the best? Yes, maybe no." they're doing that chant. And I was like, Andrew, what if we did a show called Yes! Maybe? No.. And we we take a topic, that's our niche, it's just topical, or that's the thing is we we have a topic, develop conversation around that, where we can go into the nuance of it. We don't have to do hot takes we don't have to take a strong stance, we can just kind of leave things open for thought for ourselves and for the listeners and just have fun that way. And he was like, Okay, let's do it. And so, about a month later, we put out our first episode after a couple of tries, we made our very first episode, I think it took us three, three attempts to finally get it but we did. And, and so started that show, made some episodes had a couple of guests that we that we really liked. And so that was that was cool, started getting a little bit of traction. And then we're still doing songs on the side sending into the Le Batard show. Well, then the Greg Cote show. Chris made some jokes about wanting or you know about needing some help. And but they did it on a couple of episodes. And I was like, I wonder if he really does.

He's actually calling out for help. He's like,

Yeah, like actually because they were starting Meadowlark and he was getting pulled in other directions. You know, little did we know at that point. This is before they announced that he was going to be doing cinephile, but he knew it. And so he needed help to be able to keep doing the Greg Cote show. So I reached out to Greg and I was like it and said hey, I don't know if you guys are serious or not. But if you are you know I'm your guy. Maybe Maybe I'm not. But me maybe yeah, you know, I was I was very weird and awkward about it, but he didn't know if I was serious or not. But he messaged Chris and Chris wrote back to me and I you know, said was the relationship with Chris through the show songs. So yeah. He, he said, Hey, let's, let's talk. And so we did. And about a week later we, um, they said, Yep, we want you and, and so there we go and that'll be it's 10 months now. So...

Would you say that you've made it?

I have made it somewhere I've made it further than I was before. And I what I will say is that like, for years, I've been praying to be able to find a way to use either my voice and or music to as a source of income. Ideally, it would be, I'd be able to find a way to do this as my full time thing, due to being involved in creative and artistic things, but not yet, it's not there. So I have a day job that takes care of me and my family and I need to be continued to be a responsible husband and father. And, you know, make sure I don't just abandon everything for a podcast that doesn't, you know, that, um, that doesn't have the, for anything for anything that that can't pay for my family and our needs and our desires and our goals. And so, but it's a start and and it was, it's really cool. And like, it's, it's the most fun job I've ever had, it's the most fulfilling is because I'm working with somebody who challenges me to do something creative. And and it's like, it's so rewarding when we, when we finished recording Freedumb, we used the Greg Cote show segment of that for that week's episode. And I listened to it on the way into work, and about an hour commute. And I walked in, and I could not get a smile off my face. This is you know, a couple days after the real thing. And I was still just like really happy from that. And I was listening to back to the Greg Cote, actual official episode for that week. And like, I was just just, I could not get the smile off my face. And I was like, this is the most rewarding thing I've done for work at all. And so it's fun. The fact that Chris and Greg can say, okay, hey, we want to - because I made this little, I wrote some fake commercials for a voiceover demo. Back when I was trying to get into voice voice work. And and Chris he heard it and he was like, let's make some fake ads. And so we've we've been lining up ever since the beginning of fake ads and, and being able to have him give me a challenge. If we want to do something with this style, and actually go and create an original piece of music to go with it. That's fun. It just gives me gives me some direction to help channel my creativity a little bit because I can go in my studio and I can try to write a song and I'm might chances are I won't. But every time they've issued me a challenge I've been able to come through and and that's it's so like giving me some direction for the creative outlet is just it's wonderful. And so yes, I mean, here we are. 10 months later still going strong. We are with a Greg Cote shows 100th Episode will will air on the 21st. So Monday the 21st That'll be the 100th episode.

Yeah, Greg almost fired you the other day. But you know

He probably should of. That was such a terrible. I felt legitimately horrible. I talked to Chris Tuesday. And I was like, Man, I wore that the whole day. Like it was just No, I said nobody got after me. You know? Yeah, it was just nobody had to though it just Yeah, I felt really bad. I should have he gave me the window to realize don't jump in here.

Don't Don't do it.

Your opinion or a joke by saying this is really special to me. And I still I don't like that song at all. It's just too too sappy for me. So I still couldn't get out of my own way. And I really stepped in it and then and I you know, and Chris is like, you're good. You're gonna I know I'll be fine. But like, I'm just telling you I wore it and it hurt me you know, and but I needed to wear it too. It was good for me to learn from that, you know? And he said we still were able to have fun with it that good because you gave Greg permission to continue his show. But he's done that with Dan to "you may continue with your program."

You may continue... I love how they've just been letting him like sink into his like rambles lately, and you just feel like I can just like you hear all the other mics like turn off slowly and it's just him just floating and it's beautful.

That man... When we record it is the highlight of my week. Outside of like, okay, I've the standard highlights. I get home and I see my wife and kids. That's a love image. That's my favorite thing. But as far as activities go, like that's the highlight of my week. We you know, like because because my I have a good day job. The company I worked for not going to get in but the the company I work for is good. It's a good opportunity. And it's if I, if that's not my number one passion, it's a good, second stable thing. But it's not fulfilling in the way that, yeah, doing this - these creative things. And so like, being in the fact that, like, I was already a fan of Greg and Chris so much, and now I get to work with them, like, it's, it's fun and he is every bit as funny as Dan says he is when he's on a phone call with him. He is every bit as funny. And it's, it's wonderful. It's splendid. And I've literally twice gotten where I couldn't see because I was laughing so far. And so yeah, I'll take that, you know?

Yeah, that's, that's, that's fantastic. I mean, it's, it's very interesting to me, right, because one of the reasons that I felt like I was drawn to the Le Batard show was because of the whole, it feels like a family vibe, right? And, you know, for various reasons, and, you know, my broken upbringing and stuff like that I've felt like I've been searching for, you know, like, my chosen family for like, a good while, if that makes sense. And hearing, you know, Dan's mentality, it's, and Dan was one of those people where I'd floated across him periodically in the past, and never really, I just, you know, been working on my own stuff, working in kitchens and stuff like that just had too much time to consume his show. But I just, I just found him at the right time, when my my career in kitchens was kind of falling through, you know, pandemic hit, and all the restaurants closed for three months, came back, couldn't get the same amount of wage. I actually had a buddy pass away who didn't work like in, we worked in the same communal space. And he got COVID and passed away, you know, a week later and so I had that whole. "Am I... Is this what I want to do?" You know,

Yeah.

So I, I had my early midlife crisis, at age -

It won't be your last...

No, I won't be here. I had my quarter life crisis in it, you know, 24. And now this is my midlife crisis at 30. You know,

Yeah, no...

They're gonna just keep compounding. But it was just one of those things where I was like, Okay, I need to, you know, I need to find something else in my life. And at that moment, you know, for you could say the universe brought it to me or whatever, but like, the Le Batard show really, really became a part of my day to day routine that made me you know, kept me happy. And then, you know, being in Portland, Oregon, right now. And Miami could be, you know, that could be Uzbekistan for, you know,for, for all everyone around here, you know, could care. And so, now that I'm like, super into all of these things that they're talking about, and stuff like that, I you know, I don't have anyone to talk to the show about and stuff like that. So it's just like, alright, well, I want you know, maybe I want to talk and stuff like that. And then I was thinking about, like, just friends that I had really good rapports with that, you know, you could see after a couple years, and it's like, you never missed a beat and stuff like that. And so that was why I decided to start my own podcast because I was like, well, maybe I do have my own family is through these friends and stuff like that. So it's been really fun to try to start it out. I am the only one that like, it's my vision entirely at this point. And so my other two buddies, they're both you know, one lives in Brooklyn, he just moved there from Seattle, the other one lives in Everett and he just bought a house with his wife they're first time homeowners and so they're like fixing up the house and so yeah,

It's life stuff.

Yeah, it's me and you know, my life stuff is just school and this you know, and it's just -

I mean, it's one reason Andrew and I haven't recorded in a little while -

Yeah,

- just life stuff you know Yes! Maybe? No. is - we both work on it but like all the all the music, all the imaging and stuff, like I do every bit of that I do all the editing, because Andrews got, you know, I actually have more time than he does and he's done a couple of episodes but he's got more time than I do. Or I've more I have more time than he does because my kids are a little older his kids are all still really young and including a two year old and are not not even two year old and so are no you're just over two year old so yeah, like just just really hectic and busy and so like I take on all of that but it's like I still have life too and and you know and now that the great coders show I have to prioritize that so like I still love doing Yes! Maybe? No. but it's just very infrequent at the moment. And but you know, it's that's been good too because it has also served as another creative outlet but they're via the the Le Batard show fan base is funny to me because they I don't know, like many people face to face. that, like in my personal like actual daily interactions that that listen to to them. Very, very few. But the ones who do like, I don't know of any passive Leba tarde listeners, the ones that do listen all seem to be in maybe it's just because they have the loudest voices, but they all seem to be like, very passionate listeners. And so -

You either get the show or you don't get the show.

Right. But that's been one of the silver linings of the pandemic is that like, before that I never engaged with other fans of the show online. Like totally no. And then, um, but as soon as it happened, it just became this natural thing. Like, we probably should do this, you know, we should talk to strangers, you know. And, and I've developed some really good friendships out of it. And you know, whether it's just through Twitter, or through the Lour After Hours, friends or through people that I've met doing Yes! Maybe? No. like Jeremy Tache, we are legitimate friends. Like he texted me last week from the from the parking lot that the famed parking lot right before going into the Clevelander, it's been interesting to make these connections in a manner that before COVID, I never would have considered even trying, like, why don't need to do that, because I really don't make friends around me, because I've got my wife and kids. I just, I was very social beforehand. But once I got married, I was like, I'm kind of good. Just spending all my time with you mean, you're hotter than any other friends. I could go make out there. So you know, it's up then. And, and so like it, but it's been interesting how like, and I'm still kind of that way, like people at church or people at work, don't really form close friendships. Unless like maybe they're Le Batard fans. Okay, cool. But this whole, through Twitter, I've made some legitimate, actual like, like people that don't just message back and forth or posts back and forth with on Twitter, like, like, people that I either have hung out with, or I know I will hang out with one day, you know, and it's cool. It's really cool.

Yeah, I mean, Twitter's a, it's such an interesting space, because it's so impersonal on so many levels. But you can totally break through these walls, because everyone is just like, they're putting themselves out there. And so, you know, I got to go, I got to host a Northwest leg of this hip hop tour, because I started talking to this dude via Twitter, it is just, he's this emcee, his name's Billy Woods, and I had heard of him. In high school, I was like, I just decided to message him one time on Twitter, we started an open dialogue, I ended up you know, host telling him that I could book multiple shows, and I booked shows for him and stuff like that. And we ended up hanging out. And then you know, turns out he's a football fan. And so like, I'll talk yeah, I'm not even the biggest football fan, but I'll just hit him up periodically and talk to the Bears. Yeah, you know, it's like, I'm not from Chicago, you know, but just like, I know, how to riff, you know, with people and stuff like that. If I really need to, and if I, you know, and if I want to, and so it's just, I think part of the the appeal of the podcast and stuff like that, once again, I want to thank you for, for showing up. And you know, and saying yes, it's just the ability to learn from people that, you know, have more knowledge than me, because I'm going to get -

Damn right I got more knowledge and you can do.

Yeah, I'm one of those people where, you know, you might listen, if you ever listened to an episode of the podcast, you might be like, Oh, this dude sounds like he is a know it all, you know. And more often than not, I'm just like, I'm exploring things in my head. And I always am the type that just wants to learn and wants to be around people that that I can learn from and stuff. And so yeah, in trying to build the audience for this podcast, and you're reaching out to people, and I was like, Oh, I get to just like, learn from a bunch of people, you know that from various aspects of lighting and all. Yeah, next next week, I'm interviewing this guy, his name's Fresh Kils. He's a Juno nominated hip hop producer from Toronto. And he's a super nice guy. And yeah, it's just it'd be fun to learn about music production, and stuff like that from him and that stuff. He does like live beat battle type stuff plays all the MPC live.

Cool. Awesome.

Yeah, I really enjoy all of this.

And then that's why I keep doing it. And so yeah, it I folded a show that I did for no money and to be able to work with the Greg Cote show, you know, who knows what's next? Who knows?

Yeah. I've been making the fake commercials too. And that's fun.

Yeah. I checked out some of those like on when I listen through. Yeah, those were really cool. And it's fun. It's fun making fake ads, especially if they can be funny and get to do the whole imaging and the music behind it and everything is good.

Yeah, none of the music is a is original for the -

ah gotcha

- for the actual commercials and stuff. It's just been all commercial free stuff, just because I've been doing it all myself. Pretty soon I'm gonna try to make an actual commercial song that I can just use. But for now, I've just been looking up, you know, various styles of commercial music because I want to do the different types of ads where, you know, some of them are kind of hippie ish. And some of them are, you know, your monster truck, bro.

Right, right.

And all that stuff. But it's been fun. So far, all of them have been, you know, come up with the concept and then just improv and edit stuff together and stuff like that. So

It's not a bad way. I mean, even when you're writing the script, you're still improvising in that moment in your writing. So -

Totally. And I mean, improv. And, you know, coming off with stuff off the head, is just allowing it to like flow freer, you know, and then if you can translate that, and it's all good.

Yeah. So what else do you want to know? Colin...

Do you have any moments where nostalgia breaks your standards? So as this is The Pitfalls of Nostalgia

So you mentioned that in when you were messaging me something along those lines, so clarify a little bit more?

Yeah. So for me, okay. I have standards, like, I have a pretty weak gut, okay, I'm allergic to alcohol. I am allergic to a lot of different foods. And I know I'm not supposed to eat certain things, right. So for the most part, I try and eat you know, you know, let's say free range, meat, you know, organic fair trade, you know, stuff that that's easier on my gut. That being said, I was raised on McDonald's. And so someone was like, Hey, here's the free Big Mac that I got for you. I'd be like, be really hard for me to say no, right. Another thing is, like, you know, sort of, like movies that you watched as a kid, you know, like, Star Wars Episode One came out for me when I was 10 years old. And so, you know, I fucking loved that movie when it came out. And, you know, it's like, I go back, and I watch it now. And I'm just like, Okay, it's, it's horrible. But there are some moments where I'm just like, the pod racing and a bunch of stuff where I'm still like, this is really cool. Joel Schumacher's Batman movies. You know, they're like, really bad. Really, really bad. But at the same time, because it came out at a certain point in my life, I'm like, you know, right. I know, this movie is horrible, but I just I don't care. Neon ghettos.

I recently had that with the Sam Raimi Spider Man movies.

Okay.

I was very enthralled with him at the time when they first came out.

Yeah.

Then, a few years later, the guys from Mystery Science Theater, 3000, started doing a different series called Rifftrax. And because they found a way where they could riff on like, actual big blockbuster movies. And where basically, they do they'd record an audio track and you buy the audio track, and then you go rent the movie, wherever and they tell you where to sync it up that kind of like Pink - or Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz.

Yeah.

And so you could you listen along as you watch the movie, and, and they pointed out so many jokes on it were like, Wow, it really made me it made me as this is kind of a bad movie, or these are kind of bad movies. And I mean, Spider Man 3 was terrible. There was no Yeah, but the first two when I first saw them, I loved them.

Yeah.

Well, it's been several years now. And and we decided, you know, my son's all into Spider Man right now. He's eight. And so we're like, well, let's go back and watch the original ones. Or the or the Sam Raimi ones and then we'll go through the the Andrew Garfield ones.

I still have never seen an Andrew Garfield ones.

I don't remember who directed those. But anyway, and I was like, I was like, maybe I'll I'll be less cynical because I've gotten older. I'm not as you know, on edge about things as it was in my mid 20s, where I've had to have a hard opinion on everything. And but no, they're still terrible. They're so bad, but like I was willing to go back and try. But um, but I loved it initially. Food wise though. I don't I don't mean anything because I don't I don't keep to a diet clearly I'm well I'm not standing up but I I've got I've got the gut. I'm not in good shape.

Oh, yeah. I mean, I look at I look at some cookie dough, and I gained five pounds. So I hear you.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, like there there's a I remember the 20 minute drive home from work when I was living in coastal North Carolina. And I went and bought like this pack of doughnuts or something like that. And I asked one of my co workers I told him I said, ask me if those donuts I bought right before I left made it home. He says did those donuts you bought make it - and I cut him off I was like hell no. They did not! because there's no such thing as one or two. And, and so that's bad. So but but like I don't still I still don't have like a strict diet so like that I could say I'm falling back onto this because of like a childhood memory or things like that now I have foods that are nostalgic to me that are that are very sentimental to me maybe more sentimental than nostalgic. Yeah. Although the Chic-O stick is something okay, this might fall into play. Do you are you familiar with Chic-O sticks?

That sounds very familiar... I'm gonna look

Check I don't know if they're called they're probably shouldn't be called Chic-O sticks but it Chic-O stick C-H-I-C-O-dash-Stick.

Yeah

They're like this. I don't know exactly what they are. But I think if they probably just crushed up a bunch of candies and rolled them into some like coconut stuff. And it makes this whole like stick and like it's not that great like as far as fine quality candy it's not but My great grandpa owned a bunch of land in north Florida. Had a natural springs on it. And that was the family swimming hole. And yeah, cuz you know, in my redneck past we have a family swimming hole. And it was the community who go there he you buy a ticket you get in for $1 spend the whole day there you know, when when my dad was growing up and he had he built a skating rink or woods would skating rink and they had a little arcade in and you could in the the main not a house but the main building, I guess. And that's where you go get you get your slushies and get ICEEs and you could get popcorn and that's where I remember my great grandma - who I didn't know was my great grandma until I was like 22... We all everybody called her aunt Doris. So I thought she was my aunt. I thought she was one of my grandma sisters. No, she was my great grandpa, his third wife, one passed away. The other one beat the kids because they pee the bed. And so, you know, he divorced her. Then he met Doris. She was quite a bit younger. She's only like seven years older than my grandma. And so everybody just called her aunt Doris. And so I thought she was my great aunt thought she was grandma sister. But anyway, so I'd go in and Aunt Doris would greet me and give me an ice and some popcorn. He of course we got it for free. But then they closed it to the public. But I'm still our family swimming hole, we can still go swim there, now even though Deer Park uses that as one of its sources for their water. They drill for my 80 feet deep. And it's a natural spring. So it refreshes every day. But anyway, long, long story short, I remember the first time I ever had a Chic-O stick was there at at the family soil. And and I remember I was like, Oh, this is cool. And I liked it as a kid. It's terrible candy. It's really not good quality. But when I see one I kind of have to go buy I have to get it.

Well, yeah. Because you eat it

Because I have that attachment.

Yeah. And it takes you back to those moments. Yeah.

It's all based in sentimentality for me. I love fried chicken. Fried chicken's my favorite food in the world.

Yep.

And I grew up with my dad would make it for breakfast. Probably one of the reasons he died at 63. But But yeah, we love fried chicken. And his favorite drink was root beer that became my favorite drink. And I don't I don't I've never saw I can't see like I've had a nasty habit with other things. I've never drank I've never smoked. And so it's just never been my thing. I've kind of Ron McGill that way. And

Anytime you can compare yourself to Ron McGill, take it.

I'll take that. I was in on the interview when he was on the Greg Cote show a few weeks ago and like, my whole week was positive after that, like he just he's he just even through a zoom. he exudes this positivity and feel good. And you just feel like you're a better person after talking to him.

Yeah.

And, and so but yeah. The what was it? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But so every year and I don't only eat fried chicken on these days. But every year on my dad's birthday, on the day he passed away. And on Father's Day, I make sure that fried chicken and root beer, just just a little tip of the cat to to this thing. That was our bonding time we make some fried chicken, we'd sit around the table and we talk. I'm the oldest in my family. So I got more time with dad than any of the other kids did. And I got along with him. Everybody got along. Dad was super loved by all all all of us kids but I got along with him better than I think most of them or maybe it was just my social nature was more in line with his and so we could just talk forever about anything. And so there's sentimentality there. I'm trying to think if there's anything else like I have a higher standard of chocolate now that I'm married to someone who - my wife was a chef and she was raised on good chocolate.

Oh yea, my grandma just sent me five pounds of See's Candy for - because my birthday is the day before Valentine's And so it's just like she sent me all of this stuff. I was just like, I don't need this...

I'm gonna eat it, dang it.

Just laying in bed like I don't need this eating Scotch Mallos just -

Right but I have no problem spending a little extra money on nicer chocolates. Why will I still buy a freakin Hershey bar? Sometimes I'm gonna admit this to the audience. And maybe tell me if you felt the same view ever opened up a Hershey bar? And like, this kind of smells like a little bit just faint smell of poop in this bar?

Yes.

And have you still eaten it?

Oh, of course.

Yeah. Because it's there and I spent money on it. Why would I do this? Because growing up as a world told me that Hershey's chocolate is the best chocolate in the world. It was a total lie.

Well, it might have been at the time so that's the thing is like -

It was the best chocolate available maybe on a Nestle was around still there there foreign, at least halfway. But like, I had no idea of actually, why we're supposed to be American exceptionalism. I mean, it's one of our it's gonna be one of our downfalls. But we're supposed to be exceptional at everything, we're the best. Why do we allow such crap chocolate standards then? It infuriates me!

Any of the standards that we have at this point? It's all just like,

Because it's mass. And greed

Yeah, it's gotta be mass.

Greedy chocolate.

Yeah, one thing that, you know, just -

There's your rap name, Greedy Chocolate. Got Greedy Chocolate's new album. Maybe we should stay away from that...

Yeah, in managing restaurants, and helping start restaurants and stuff like that, the things that I've learned with the food industry is that, you know, to in order to increase profits, which always need to happen, or even to maintain as things go up in price, it's like you either raise your price, or you lower your quantity, or you lower your quality. So if you raise your price, you immediately lose, there's like a huge chunk of customers, they'll just see that you raised it a quarter, and they'll be like, Nope, you know, I'm not doing that anymore. So more often than not, you know, people keep the same packaging. And that's why you're seeing like so many pictures online, of like, people opening up a box of cereal and there's like this much cereal in the thing. And it's just the same box of cereal. If you go get coffee at the store now, since a couple years ago, I think that the same size coffee bags went from a pound of coffee to 12 ounces of coffee, but it's the same price right? And it's so it's those things where it's you either are going to drop the quality of the product by introducing you know, just lower just just just just shit but then you're going to lose clientele, maybe? You aren't going to lose as much clientele as if you just raise your price

Because you still have the brand recognition of packaging.

Yeah, yeah.

That's another thing we do too much of here's our packaging is just stupid. My wife lived in Finland for a couple of years. And and they have very minimal packaging because they're trying to reduce waste. It's like why why do we need to have an Amazon box for an Amazon box? It doesn't work for the original packaging box. But you know, it's why do we have these these these Russian nesting dolls of boxes every time I order something off the Amazon?

Or your trying to order like four items on Amazon and you click the you know, like I will take all of these four days later so they can all be in the same box. And then they all show up you know four days later but they're all in different boxes and it's just like "what is happening?!"

But we still lower standards in order from that horrific company.

Damn you, Jeff Bezos.

I'm still gonna order something from them probably in the next week. But but but I don't know. But but like, I don't know why because I actually kind of disagree. Now I've been able to get my for my personal food habits. I won't do McDonald's anymore. Unless I'm in a really really bad pinch like I'm starving and this is the only thing open. My kids: they still want it of course it's difficult to get away from McDonald's with kids.

They market towards the kids.

Yeah, no, yeah, it's like I'll leave their fries and if I have to order something their fries and like an egg McMuffin, but that's the only thing that I'll eat from there and like it like maybe some ice cream or something like but I won't either burgers I won't eat their chicken sandwiches because for what I'm paying it is such a terrible quality for me. I've been able to keep that one away. But only I don't do Burger King anymore because I had in Bellevue. I went and got Burger King on lunch break had a chocolate shake and end up with a whole roach in my mouth and it's just a bit for me. But also even beyond that Burger King has the greatest disparity between how their pictures look

100%

Versus what you actually get. There's always going to be a disparity Chick fil A probably has the closest representation of the picture to actual product, but Burger King has the greater that like they will make their food look so incredibly good. And then we get it it looks like somebody rubbed it across the counter first and pulled the burger out of their back. pocket, you know, yeah, it's good. It's all just sloppily. There's no presentation value to it.

I'm convinced that, you know, I have a couple buddies that are from Jupiter, Florida that live up here. And I'm convinced that Burger King is just a cocaine front. I think it started in Miami. And I think it started in the 80s. And I know that it's all franchises and stuff like that. But, for example, so we started this, I helped start this restaurant in here in Portland called Super Deluxe. And it's kind of turning into a little In-N-Out of Portland type of thing. There's three different locations and but we opened up the first location directly across the street from a Burger King. And also directly across the street on another way from a Taco Bell. So it's just like, you know, three fast food places right there. But the Burger King still exists. This is like four years later, I swear, I've seen two people go in at the entire time. I don't understand like,

How is it still afloat?

Yeah, it's a giant lot you know, like right in like a huge intertate in SE Portland.

That real estate is not cheap.

No, nope, not at all. So that's why I'm half convinced that

That's your that's your theory. That Burker King - it's a front is a cocaine front.

Yeah. And they have and they put out all they do is they put out money on marketing and they don't put our money in products.

Where do we? Where do we lower our standards for nostalgia where it's not food? I'm trying to think probably TV.

That's what Yeah, I was thinking about that with with Celina earlier. I think it's, you know, your media consumption, you know, whether it's music, you know, like, for example, I was listening to I remember when the Cinephobe episode came out on Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Secret of the Ooze, right? And I was so pumped. I was like -

That was that was filmed in Wilmington, North Carolina, where my wife and I my kids lived before moving to Georgia.

Oh, that's awesome.

And no, actually Waffle House. Kristi YamaGuccimane. You'll find him on Twitter, a big fan of Le Batard show.

Yeah.

He did the pirate radio theme that they used on the local hour. For most of last year, his dad worked on the set instead works in the industry works on movie sets. And he worked on he worked on that film.

That's funny. I think the third one was filmed partially in Astoria, or something like that. Which there's a bunch of movies that were filmed in a story. I mean, the Goonies Kindergarten Cop

Yeah.

And a Stand By Me was south of Portland. But point being I just remember -

Yea, Turtles 2...

Yeah, when that movie came out, you know, and the Cinephobe came out, I was like, oh, man, I love that movie. And like them just pointing out some of the things that like I had never noticed. Had watched the movie like 20 times, like all throughout my childhood and adulthood. And I was like, the fact that they never identified what the secret of the ooze

Right, right.

And it's all of that and I was like, I just like -

It's like Troll 2. There's not a Troll one or a troll three. And they only have goblins. They don't have trolls at all, you know?

I actually just listened to that episode, because I've been going back slowly and listening to the old -

Oh Cinephobe did Troll 2?

I think so. Yeah.

Oh, dang. Oh, look, that one.

I think it's -

- like, you can't piss on hospitality.

Yes. That sounds exactly like what they - Yeah, that sounds like

That's the takeaway from the whole movie. You can't piss on hospitality.

I'm gonna go find which episode it is right now. But that well, yeah, just listen to that one. And that was one of the things they're like, There's no trolls. Yeah. Episode 74. Or no, episode 64.

Nilbog is goblin backwards.

Yep, they did it as the last episode of 202.0

Gotcha. Gotcha, gotcha. Gotcha.

Yeah. So I think that it's, you know, the best examples are media and food. I've gonna come up with other examples, but I think that the other examples that I can think of are all a lot darker. You know?

Yeah. What was it when it comes to the TV like... It took me a while to give up the Cosby Show. Okay. Yeah. Because that was, that was such a big part of my childhood. I mean, that's - the Cosby Show taught me what dyslexia is because Theo has dyslexia

Yeah

- and they addressed it in an episode because he was doing terrible in school and and you know, as a kid, I thought it was like some like, disease that you would like, you could pass on, you know, a communicable disease but um, you know, but but eventually after watching the episode, I learned what it was and like, oh, okay, this is dyslexia and and like that that really poignant to me and there's there's a scene maybe the first episode where Bill Cosby opens up or no, he comes in and and Theo it has the fridge left open. He's just standing there staring there and, and Bill makes a joke about about a penguin gonna come knocking on the door because you're taking all this cold air away or something like that. That was so funny to me as a kid. But now it's like, I can't.

Yeah,

It's it's like It was it's still gonna be a funny show. If I were to go back and watch - tons of laughs and I hate that, you know, fully I love Phylicia Rashaad and, and but it's just like, I can't contribute to...

Those ones suck, where it's-

It's agregious.

- the nostalgia was ripped away from you, right? Where you have these great memories, and they are soiled now. And you know, it's you can't really even compare that to obviously the victims of all of what he did. But at the same time, it's just, ya get so many people across the board that it's like, he was a father figure he was you know so much. You know, I remember for me like, I loved Thriller, like I had that on vinyl, like my dad's record collection, and I was going through it and I was like, three and four years old, like going in there like waddling into the room and putting Thriller on. And so, you know, that was a tough one for me. And -

We haven't canned Michael Jackson yet, because my kids don't know anything about it. And when, when his music comes on, like, we didn't even listen to it in the house, it just like came on somewhere. And like, like he had never my son had never heard it before. And he just started moving like he couldn't - it was insatiable, and like, it brings him so much joy that like, we aren't going to spoil that for him right now. You know, and we'll wait till he's an adult and he can make that decision for himself. You know?

Yeah, one of the things that we tried to talk about in one of the episodes is just the idea of, you know, what you do with an artist like Michael Jackson, or an R. Kelly or things like that. And ultimately, my, you know, what, what I thought about this a lot is I don't think that you should take away the art. But I think that, you know, probably, you know, R Kelly, or the Michael Jackson estates shouldn't be benefiting off of that art.

Well...

you know, what I mean?

To an extent, well R. Kelly for sure. But like Michael Jackson, now that he's deceased, you know, you could make an argument that like, why should his kids have to pay for his, for the sins of the father now, if they can benefit from his estate? I've never thought about this before. This is just some of them just thinking now. Now that he's passed away, he's not getting the the perpetrator is not getting anything from you know, now, you have to think about what about the victims? Yes. You know, and like it compensation towards them. It doesn't help them or their case at all. Yeah, but it is less because it's no longer going to the perpetrator, at least, you know, so maybe there's it for for anyone who's in conflict about that, maybe there's a little avenue, you know, that they could they could think of there but, um, but I mean, like, the thing is, we hold it, I mean, and I don't even fault us as humanity for doing this for holding the double standard. But like, the only reason Led Zeppelin hasn't been canceled because people just haven't raised the bullhorn. I mean, those dudes are pretty gross. You know? And if you're if you're ready to Hammer of the Gods, there's some stuff in there, you know, and, and it. But But we haven't gotten to that point yet. That's the one Mike Ryan references quite a bit on the show is like, there's a lot of questions we don't ask about Led Zeppelin, you know. And the end that we had that we just haven't found ourselves ready to ask where no one else has made a loud enough stink to make society as a whole. Ask those questions or the music community as a whole as those questions and -

Now I'm gonna have to look into that because...

There's some stuff you know, but this kind of plays into the the Big Suey today with the Meadowlarkers.

Yeah, totally

The episode "the deals we make."

Yeah, that's what actually I was listening to that and I was like, Damn you, Mike. You're taking my, you know, I've had I had this segment idea. It is I call it the breaking point. And I've had it written down and like, a bunch of different, you know, like subjects that we could go through in that I've had that like going.

Okay, here's another one another double stain or where I broke standards, based on nostalgia as an Atlanta Braves fan. When I first got into the Braves the tomahawk chop was not a thing. Native American iconography, yes. But not not the tomahawk chop, Tomahawk chop that didn't come in until Deion Sanders brought it with him from Florida State.

Oh, okay.

And oh, yeah, yeah. So yeah, he went to Florida State the chop was there. And then he came to Atlanta and that's kind of when it started. So it's not like this tradition that's at 80-100 years old. Not that that would make it excusable.

But that makes it interesting, because -

Yea. it's still somewhat recent history because people will argue proponents will argue was this part of our team's history. Not ancient history, though.

Not really, no.

But the Native American iconography sure. Yes, that's been around for a long time, but I was a kid. I'm not gonna know any better. And as a kid, when you get excited about the team you love and they're all doing the chop. You're going to do it too. You know for The most part if your parents aren't conscientious enough to, to think critically about it. That's the thing, my parents were not hateful people my dad was like, like, that's one of the greatest things about my dad is like, that guy taught us how to love. He didn't teach us anything about financial responsibility. He was bad with money. We were poor. We were really poor. But man, he can take care of a house. Yeah. And but it was nice. There are seven kids, you know, so it was really overwhelming for him. And my mom, you know, we were not easy. But it's not an excuse, because there are plenty people with large families who keep it together. But it was too much for them to ask for. And, and it's not like we were helpful because we brat kids, you know. But uh, but man, they taught us how to love people and and like, I never once heard like a racial slur come from his mouth. I'm not saying he didn't he grew up in North Florida, in segregation in schools were not integrated yet. Yeah, I know, he grew up saying stuff that he shouldn't have. But as he got older, he was like, this isn't what I want to be, I'm sure. And I never once heard him. I never once heard him. I've heard him defend and take up for other people, you know, and like, that was really cool. But he just no one was questioning. I'm not saying nobody, but the general public was not questioning the tomahawk chop. So he wasn't gonna make me question it by any means. It was just, this is something fun we do to cheer on our team. And that's the thing. We're cheering on our team. So this is a good thing, right? You know, and this, this whole thing behind it. And without pausing to think, are we making a cartoon out of another group of people. So growing up, I did that. I started and when I was in my, in my 20s, I was very much on the right wing, like conservative talk radio was what I listened to. And I've never admitted this on the air, I don't think, but I have no problems admitting I've opened up about it on Twitter. I've never, like talked openly about it. But like, No, I grew up draft traveling around my dad listening to Rush Limbaugh. Because he'd go, he worked at Radio Shack until I was 14, he managed to store until I was 14. And then he quit to start his own computer business, on site computer sales and services. And so during the summer, sometimes I'd ride around with him to all his customers. And he'd turn on Rush Limbaugh and like, their thing, you know, things that I now see were hateful and hurtful, you know, I just saw as him - I didn't take him seriously. I was like, he's just making jokes. You know, I don't feel that way. He's just making, you know, kind of off color jokes. Almost like a stand up comedian would but I didn't I didn't understand. And my dad didn't either, because he just, there was no reason for him to question nothing, no one ever challenged him. And he wasn't ever listening to a voice that was going to challenge him. So I got older, I listened to Rush everyday, I paid for an insider membership. Same thing with Glenn Beck. I was a big time Glenn Beck fan. Because there were - look he had excellent producers. And they would do really funny imaging and kind of like avatars show really like kind of irreverent, you know, like, we're not going to be polished radio as much as we are, we're going to be funny radio and like, try to try to come in and like for where I was in my life at the time, not questioning things. And there was funny stuff, or there was no good entertainment value, listen to Michael Medved out of Seattle, the guy named David Bose, I'd call into his show all the time. Met up with one of his producers one time at a movie that they were that they were hosting, you know, and like, like, but then it just got to where I finally started questioning things as I got a little older. And I realized I was like, you know, I go to church. I'm a Christian guy.

And I go to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and the prominent, you know - I don't mince words, when I'm talking about my belief. And I go to the Scriptures. I believe in Jesus Christ and He says, First Commandment is love God, second ones, liken to it. Love your neighbor as yourself. Okay, now let's strip the religion or spiritual beliefs beyond that, let's just take those two as principles. Those are damn good principles to live by. We'll just take the second one, let's say even for an atheist. Love your neighbor as yourself.

Yeah.

Just you can have a really good life and, and be loved and love people if you make that your mantra. And so I decided to, I was like, that's where I need to be. That's how I was raised. We might not have thought about things critically enough. But that's how I was raised. That was the essence of how I was raised. And so like, I started realizing that the brand of what these guys I was listening to was talking about that were a big part of my childhood because like I said, I'd spend hours on the road of my dad laughing at these shows. Rush even had a parody song guy. A guy that would that would make parody song For and like that kind of planted some of the seeds of where I'm at with Le Batard today, you know. But there were, you know, so there are a lot of memories there. But I had to break suit because it was like, Glenn Beck goes to the same church I do. And I was like, but the things he's talking about the attitude he's taking, is not on brand with actually loving your neighbor. And I was like, and then I saw how they're just as mainstream as the mainstream media, they're trying to, you know, go against, and I was like, this is all just huckster stuff, they're just in this, they're going to incite people to anger so they can make money. And so I got away from it. And that's when I got into sports talk radio, eventually got into Le Batard, and he really opened up and got me thinking about things differently. Okay, so cool. I'm starting to think about things differently. I'm having this awakening, I am making sure that I'm reading things out of my life of old attitudes, old phrases, old ways of thinking and trying to be mindful of the prejudices that I have, so that I can challenge myself and make sure to challenge it now. So that when I'm presented with the opportunity, I don't hold that prejudice any further. Still, that will always be a work in progress. Like, even before the right started making fun of woke mob and blah, blah, blah. I didn't like it when I'd have conversations and like some of the people are so woke, I'm like, No, by the time if we think we're woke, we're still asleep, because you have to be in a constant state of trying to be awake, of staying awake, and be mindful of those around you. And so like, here I am. And I feel like I've got I've made some strides. I'm so much like, I'd rid things out of my life and mindsets that I had. And it may I was happier. And then I get to go to my first Atlanta Braves game in 2019. Not that long ago. And what do I do? That dumbass chop. I did it and I was talking my wife afterwards. And I was like, yeah, it's not a good thing. It's not a good look. And so

The fact that, you noticed that it felt dirty, though is and you could acknowledge that

But the nostalgia of cheering on this team? Like I got caught up in it.

Yeah.

But it got me to a good breaking point. So I reached a breaking point where this is going on. And, and and like, okay, cool. And I don't have to do this all but okay, I'm way too excited. Haley, let's go whoa, you know, and, and, and I chopped right along. And, and I chanted, let me say I'm super loud guy. And I got really amped up and pumped up. Because, you know, I was at a baseball game. And I love baseball. And I love the Braves. And so I reached that breaking point and went back and lowered my standards. But thinking about that brought me to a new - and it was within a week later - brought me to a new breaking point where like, I cannot give in on that standard anymore. And so I've committed myself that this is nasty. It's rude. Most of the people doing it are not nasty and rude people though. They just like my parents. They aren't questioning it.

Yeah.

And I think it's dangerous when we classify them all as nasty and rude and terrible people. A lot of them just have never been challenged enough to really question it.

Yeah.

And so it is a racist chant. Not everyone who does it is a practicing racist. The act is racist. And because if I go and call my parents racist, because they did the chop with me, I'm not getting anywhere with them. But I can tell them that the act is and here's why. You know, and try to try to put it that way, then maybe I can have a conversation. And so like, here's where I'm at with the team right now. They just won the World Series. It was wonderful. Love the fact that they did.

I'm jealous.

I would love to see them change their name. I would, I would love but first they got to get rid of that chop. I'm not going to not support the team because of the chop right now. But if they don't get rid of Ozuna after the horrific crap that he did last year with his domestic abuse if they don't cut him, because I don't think they can I don't know if they can cut him right now because of the where where the league is that with the - But if they don't, then I will not follow the Braves at all. I will be solely Mariners right now. It's both. Yeah. But I'll be solely Mariners until they get rid of of him. And I might even hang on to it for the chop. Now, is that going to hurt their profit? No. But I'll feel better about it. And that would be the new standard that I'll try to set and I won't I can't let that nostalgia. Even if they go back and win another World Series. I can't let that take over.

Yeah, and you can celebrate the team and you can celebrate the World Series and you don't have to partake in the chop. And you know, it's you know, maybe that's And just maybe you being there, and just being a presence of like I am thinking -

The one person mindset. If I can change the heart of one person? Yeah. And make them think about, maybe I shouldn't do this either, then I've done a pretty good job. If nothing else, pass it on to my kids. I didn't pass the chop on to my kids. Yeah, you know if I can find - I mean, that's where generational change happens is it does start with like, my grandma did better with my dad than her dad did with her. As far as the way we treat other people especially, we'll just keep it with, with with blacks and whites in the south. But my grandma's still had was heavily prejudice on things. And to the point where she had dementia when President Obama got elected, and we had some fun with that, like, did you know that they elected a black man? Because we knew she'd forget it by the time the night was over, just to hear no, just like, Yep, yeah, she hadn't changed much. But my dad, like I said, he did better by me than his mom even did by him when it came to the way we work with other people. Was it my grandma was wonderful person. But she was raised with the same old south prejudices that her dad was, but less so because he didn't pass as much on it did fade a little. Because he taught how to love people. She did that with her son, and all her kids. And my dad did that with us. And so like, I pass it on now, if we can roll that into a whole bunch of families and a whole city doing that. Okay, some real cool, substantial things could happen. But it's tricky. It is tricky, because all it takes is one person getting hurt. And it can undo so much of that. Well, we got we got a little heavy there for a minute.

That yeah, that's that this podcast will do that, you know, periodically, like I you know, we'll just be like talking about some random stuff where like, I think we were talking about like poop in space. And

Yea, what's your favorite kind of fart?

You know, I declared - I told Celina, you know, everyone, the butt trumpet, right. You got the, you got the you know, the ass horn, but then the little known is the glute flute. Right. So the glute flute would have to be my favorite of the of the anal instruments. Yeah.

Ah, there we go. Yes.

Exactly. Yeah. Of all the anal wind section of the band. And we brought it back.

Alright, there we go. There we go. But yes, that'd be a really good example of where I've broken my standard because of nostalgia.

Yeah, no, that's a that's a real -

That's deeper than eating McDonald's.

Exactly. I was gonna say it's much more filled with a plethora of human emotion than my Big Mac was. You win this time, sir.

That Big Mac will produce a whole wealth of human emotion in your commode later And it won't take long because it's McDonald's.

Yeah, it'll just sit in my gut for about five days. Then dissipate slowly. Do you have any questions for me or anything? Before - I don't want to keep you here forever.

Yeah, I do have to shut it down.

Yeah, but you're on. You're on the East Coast too. So

Judging from the rumble, I hear from our speakers downstairs. My son is still watching movie. They don't have school tomorrow, so they're fine, but I got to get up and go to work. But um, I never sleep anyway. It's too much to do, too. I can sleep once I lay down I can sleep but there's too much to do. There's fake commercials to write there's podcasts to edit there's new songs to try to work on. Yep.

I'm doing this the these fake Now! That's What I Call Music Series. Yeah, yeah. Right. And so I have now that's what I call Co-Dependency volume one, which is the one that I'm working on right now. And it's just, you know, I think I was listening to like a Justin or, you know, some Justin Bieber song came on or something like that. And he was like, I'll die if I'm not with you or something like that. I was just like, what kind of emotional like, these people need to like, learn how to like love themselves. You know what I mean? This is like,

That's my whole thing with the whole emo scene from the early 2000s was like, that's why it didn't resonate with me some of it did some of the music did but like, except big death cap fan. But but there's so much of it. That's like, really the lyrics are heavily like, riddled with with super violent images. All because someone broke your heart or didn't want to marry you or, like into the relationship and I was like, it just it doesn't resonate me there are plenty of people that did clearly because it was a massive movement. Yeah, but it I don't know. But then again, but then again, I will love hearing John Lennon sing, Said I'm lonely. Wanna die! You know, it's like, I love that.

Why did that resonate with me? But the the emo stuff from the early 2000s So much of that didn't I don't know. But

There was so much like, organic soul and emotion when John sang it, you know what I mean? Right? Whereas like the the, you know, the emo song, it was like, we need to make a breakup song, you know, there's like, dude, just like, yeah, that the scary part was when hip hop artists started to come out that had been that had grew up on that emo scene. And then they started to take the hyper masculinity misogyny of hip hop, and amplify it with that violent imagery of the emo scene. And that's when you got like, you know, Lil' Peep and xxxTenacion and - I don't know how to pronounce his name. I feel like such an old person when I say like, 6ix9nine...

Ecks, ecks, ecks tenacion...

Exactly. Tenation? To nation. What is he French? I don't understand.

Oh man, I love Tenacious D.

Tenacious D is great, man. Jack Black's my favorite.

I tell ya man, I tell you what.

But yeah, that's that sub sect of hip hop that came out in the last couple of years is a little terrifying. That's all I can say.

Yeah, yeah, just like there's some people that speaks to that, but just never never got with me. I can't I can't understand it. Yep. Yeah, but yet probably another double standard there. No, I don't I don't think I have um, here's where I'll take over and I'll railroad you as the host. Tell your folks tell your folks where they can find you.

Oh, yes. So everyone, thank you for tuning into Ruining Your Childhood - The Pitfalls of Nostalgia here with my -

Listening to me rambled for the last hour and a half is probably just ruined your whole adult had too...

Screw it all

It's ruined mine, Colin.

It's I'm sorry, sir. Okay. Young Sasquatch. That'll be your rap name.

The Yeti Blanc thing was originally like just a joke rap name. Like, like, I was like, That would be my rap name if I ever if I ever were to do that. And then I was like, why not just keep it for any kind of music doesn't have to be rap. Let's go. So SoundCloud sees the name and automatically the algorithm automatically plays rap for me without me selecting anything.

Instantly.

And the the first thing I upload first thing ever uploaded to SoundCloud real quick, was a parody of his the first parody song ever actually recorded. And it was a of Islands in the Stream. I made social distancing. It was right it was the weekend Kenny Rogers died and just so that song was in my head and, and I was I was up on my ladder, doing some doing something to the house, maybe changing a light bulb outside or something like that. And I just said, you know, social distancing. That is where we - because it was right at the beginning of the lockdown. And I was like, okay, cool. So I uploaded that. And then everything's because my name was Yeti Blanc. SoundCloud proceeded to still just like nothing but rap all the songs that we play after that and nothing but rap. And I was like -

You're like, I'm French!

Your algorithm is a little assumptive there, SoundCloud. But yeah, so I decided to keep it the whole time Yeti Blanc. It was it was basically kind of a play on the blue microphone. The blue Yeti's

Yeah,

I saw - And maybe it wasn't a Yeti, but I saw a white blue microphone and yeah, and I just, I was like, that's more like a Yeti Blanc and I was like - I think I'll steal that name. I like it.

Today's or yesterday's Cinephobe episode The Five Heartbeats. They do the thing where you know, like, there's a twist in the movie and they say "film noir". I don't know if you've listened to too many of their episodes. But yeah, but Mayes said "film blanc". In this last episode where I can't - I think it was what it was was the Five Heartbeats and then you know, it's like all about the gentrification and the white people coming in.

Fill in the blanc.

Yeah, exactly. And so it was film blanc because the fight it was the Five Heartbeats were the were the, you know, five black singers and then the Five Horsemen were the five white singers that were supposed to replace the five black singers and you know, because they were more marketable and stuff like that. And then towards the end, they they end up all moving out the five white dudes all moved to Harlem, marry black women, and all have flat tops like blonde flat tops.

Yeah.

And it was just like, by the end of it, I think that's when Mayes was like film blanc

Film blanc. That's a good joke. And I'd like to think that that's that he is a reference that my that I subconsciously influenced him because it was just last week, I've reached out to him for the first time to light him up about their takes on the next the last episode of the Mandalorian - I mean of Boba Fett, and because I hated it, but just out of nowhere poor Anthony Mayes. Poor Anthony Mayes, because just out of nowhere, I just started like, Hey, you didn't ask for any of this, but here I've got some major problems. And I think I said something along the lines of This episode watching the Luke Skywalker of this episode made me wish that made the five year old me wish that Cobra Kai had won. And -

Oh my god

Not related at all. But it's what it was, is that Luke in that episode really fit the aesthetic of Daniel LaRusso. When I watched him as an adult when I watched karate kid back as an adult, that's as a kid it was like no way Cobra Kai is the bad guy. It's very black and white coat because the bad guy Miyagi-do's the good guys, and there can be no in between. As I got older and watched it I was like, he was kind of this little weenie that was kind of asking me like no one should ever be bullied. But like, he was poking the bear. He was slapping beehives he was and and and so like, and, and that's like Luke in that episode of Boba Fett such a freakin weenie man, like, oh, oh, you know this and that and you know my father blah blah blah or whatever you know. Oh Grogu, silly Grogu. Like this is destroying they could have done so much better. And like so. Poor Anthony Mayes, my first interaction and really the only interaction with himm so far was me just like, you didn't ask for this. Here's what's going on. Poor guy. He responded back, but I think I lost him.

He's a super nice dude. I've talked to him periodically, just like about his podcast, editing chops and stuff like that. And just - I actually asked him one point. I think he was the first person I asked. I was like, Hey, would you be down to come on to this podcast and do a guest spot? I told him the name of it. And he was like, Yeah, unfortunately, I don't think that that would be good for me. Because - he didn't say it. But I had to remember that Amin and Zack, you know, refer to him as a pedophile on a constant basis. My podcast is called Ruining Your Childhood. They would not let him live right down.

That's right.

I was like, Okay, I painted myself in a box here. And that's actually a really good way for him to be like not say no. But also be like, there's no way I could do that.

Thanks for listening to Ruining Your Childhood - The Pitfalls of Nostalgia with Colin and today, Yeti Blanc. Why am I doing this?

I don't know. But I appreciate it. I mean, sometime, you know, so we can find you, n the Greg Cote Show with Greg Cote. You can find that anywhere where you find podcasts.

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And it will also cover a little bit of at least a little bit. We don't know how much of the PFPI Gala.

Ah, well, no one's right that listens to this will know what that is. But they should know. And so yeah, once again, I want to thank you for showing up. And you know, saying yes, and conversing with me.

It's been good meeting your call and thank you for your time.

Yeah, of course. I want to thank the Cote's for employing you and thus introducing me to your voice.

I think them daily. I really do. Really Yes, it's the most fun. I love them so much.