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Hello podcast listener, welcome to episode number two, I'm

Jake Hower and you're listening to the Multimedia Marketing Show.

I'm glad to be back.

I'm really excited with our guests today.

I'll get to that in just a second, but first I want to just

touch on a couple of things.

Number one is I'd love you to the iTunes store if you're

listening to this on your iPhone.

Phone.

You'll be very interested in the interview guest today, but yeah, head across to

the store quickly leave some comments.

I'd love to hear your feedback.

And I will be reading out some of the feedback in future episodes.

Okay.

Let's get straight into this week's interview.

My guest today is Jules Watkins, who is the creator of iPhone video hero,

which is a an online video course.

It's in my opinion, in the.

Best video course of 2012.

He's doing some amazing things.

We're shooting some incredibly high high quality videos with just the iPhone.

So forget about DSLRs forget about the high tech gear and the high price gear.

If you've got an iPhone, you can produce awesome quality videos.

And today we're going to go into how you can do that with JOOL.

Without further ado, let's get stuck in.

Welcome Jules.

Yeah.

Hi Jake.

How's it going in Australia today?

Really good.

Thank you.

It's a 9 p.

m.

and I'm sitting in the closet recording this with

you.

Whatever takes your fancy.

It's it's 10 p.

m.

here in London, so yeah, great to connect with you anyway.

Yeah, absolutely.

I really appreciate you coming on the call today.

Okay.

Today, I'd like to discuss a few things with you Jules.

First, I think it'd be worthwhile for you to just touch on your

background, explain a little bit to the listeners how you got to where

you are now and then introduce this particular product, iPhone Video Hero.

And then we might go through a few of the steps and techniques our

listeners can implement themselves to improve their own web video.

Yeah, sure.

I'll give you the...

The short story really was that about 11 years ago, I got a

break into working in television.

I was previous to that.

I was a photographer.

I was also a journalist as well, but I managed to get this break

into TV, which was fantastic for me.

And I managed to work my way up working in television for big channels here in

the UK, like for BBC, Channel 4, for MTV.

And I worked my way up to become a producer, director,

who also was a shooter.

That means that I had to be very multi skilled, produce shows, deal

with all the talent, the experts, the contestants, script writing, directing,

camera crews, and often self shooting.

TV shows myself.

And then I would sit in an edit suite with an editor for six,

seven weeks editing these shows.

So work my way up in TV and it was all fantastic.

Amazing experience, but I started about two years ago, starting to

take a big interest and looking at online and seeing people who were

starting to create their own content.

And actually owning it.

One thing I never did in TV was own any of the shows that I created.

So in essence, I was creating wealth for other people, but I started

seeing people with their own video shows, creating video episodes,

whatever kind of video it might be.

And thinking that's really interesting to actually have ownership and to be able

to do what you want to do without having.

About five executive producers breathing down your neck, telling you what to do.

So I got interested in that and started experimenting with online video

and it found it really fascinating.

And I was looking for a way really to transfer my skills into the online world.

And it was a really natural fit that I discovered that there

was a lot of people out there.

In business entrepreneurs, small business owners, bloggers who wanted

to really learn video skills that I had built up over a lot of years.

So I decided to actually start teaching my video skills to other

people and cut a long story short.

I'm a big passionate eye iPhone and it just seems.

That was the one camera that everybody seemed to own.

Almost everybody, I think they've sold around about 250 million

iPhone, something like that.

And it was the one camera that was a amazing tool that

a lot of entrepreneurs own.

So I thought what better than actually.

Teach people to use the camera that you already own.

And that's how I gave birth to my program, which is called, as

you mentioned, iPhone Video Hero.

That's fantastic.

I know it's certainly a very interesting niche to get into.

Particularly given that I guess one of the biggest barriers to entry

for many people is technology.

And so not having to go out.

And invest in a whole heap of expensive video equipment removes

one of those barriers for people.

I, yeah, from my perspective, learning to shoot with something

like a camera is a fantastic concept.

And I guess the iPhone is probably the first camera or the first phone that

we've seen, which is produced a quality, which has allowed us to actually do this.

Yeah, absolutely.

One thing I would say is that, when you're buying camera equipment and budgeting,

you've got to think about the entire kits.

It's not just about the camera.

Some people will put all their money into a sort of 500, 600 camcorder and have

none left or not invest any more in any of the other accessories and other kind of

things that you need to do to make, need to own to make good videos because video

is not just about The camera, it's about, audio and lighting and as well as sort

of knowledge about how to create videos.

So in a way, the fact that people already own this device means that

they can then, if they're going to invest a bit more, can maybe pick up

a microphone or some lights and create a really low cost overall total kit.

That means that you can really up the quality of your videos.

And at the end of the day, the iPhone is a high definition camera.

And, as long as you use it within its limitations, you can create videos

on a par with some of these sort of a 900 to one and a half thousand

dollar DSLR cameras, for example.

Sure.

No problems.

That's fantastic.

Let's let's move into the product a little bit.

And I'd love for you To give us a little bit of an overview, A, of

of, what actually led the end of the day to you creating this product

and B, maybe a little bit about what you've put into it as well.

Yeah, sure.

For me, it's just all about leveraging my time, which again, if you're listening

to this and you're interested in using video to answer people's questions that

you keep on being asked all the time.

So video is great because I describe it as your virtual workforce.

You're like sending out your little workers out onto the internet

and it's working for you, talking about your products, your services,

bringing people back to your website.

I wanted to leverage my time.

I didn't want to just go from working crazy hours on in TV.

to working crazy hours, producing videos for other people.

Because, that would be pretty much similar to, how it was before.

So what I wanted to do is leverage my time, create a training

product that people go into wherever they are in the world.

And I've got people from Australia, New Zealand, Japan, all the way

through to Los Angeles, going into my product every day and learning.

So I could basically leverage my time better.

The reason I chose the iPhone, again, if you're creating any kind of product or

service, you just got to really go and find your audience, find out where they

are and see what they're talking about.

And I spent quite a bit of time going into forums and groups and really getting into

that community and in my particular niche, which is business owners and entrepreneurs

and seeing what were they talking about when it came to creating videos.

And I would go in and be very helpful as well and learn from them.

And that just helped me.

My, my niche and made me realize that people were discussing about

their iPhones and their iPads in the context of making videos.

So that gave me the clues and I had to go and create the product and

I wanted to make it really good.

And again, when you're creating a video product, I treated it like a TV show.

Really?

When I made TV shows, I would have, tight deadlines.

And, with TV, if you miss a deadline, then you end up with

a black screen, no TV show.

And that's obviously not acceptable.

So I'm quite good at working to deadlines.

So I set a deadline.

I figured, what would help people get from A to B and how could I

make it engaging and not just lazy?

There's quite a lot of lazy products, which are just all screen capture or

all about the owner of the product sitting at their desk talking to you.

Whereas I wanted to get out and about.

Film real situations meet entrepreneurs and show them how to use their iPhone.

So I made it quite engaging and I wanted to cover to just the second part of

your question there really is to cover the main aspects, for example, the

basic, how to really control your phone.

Now you might think it's so simple.

You open up the app and you hit a button, but in fact, there's a lot more controls

that you can actually use, particularly.

If you add in apps and things so controls, I wanted to go deep into all the various

cool apps that you can get for the iPhone and that's what distinguishes

it from so many other cameras like your regular camcorder is that you've got

all these developers making really deep.

Cool apps that will help you make more professional videos.

So I go into that in great detail audio solutions, lighting solutions,

some strategy, some training about how to be better on camera.

A lot of people are frightened of getting on camera.

Also how to basically infuse your videos with a bit more energy, a bit more.

Entertainment value, because I think that, video isn't that new anymore.

People are making videos, but it's really now about making better videos and making

your videos much more engaging compared to what your competitors might be doing.

That's

that's a fantastic overview and it gives it.

A good indication of what's in the product.

I've had a, I've had a look through it myself.

I must confess I'm not an iPhone owner.

I'm a, I'm an Android devotee, but I picked it up a lot, particularly

around some of the the composition information and just the basic

setup of how you're framing shots and with your lighting and stuff.

So there's a lot you'll get out of the actual product

itself.

Oh, yes.

Basically, I think that getting these core video skills is just becoming

a key part of doing online business.

In the past, you think about word processing and maybe more recently

how to set up a wordpress blog and, basically create pages and content.

But now I think, video skills is becoming part and parcel of being online.

I'm basically taking you through inside this training program,

some basic video skills and some more intermediate skills as well.

And just really getting you in a new mindset.

Cause I've spent a lot of time getting my head around how to make content

quickly and make it engaging in TV.

There's no room for bad content or for dull content.

Anything that is made that doesn't work gets immediately.

So my, my idea was trying to get people thinking a little bit differently

about the way they make videos and also doing videos with their iPhone.

And when you show them to somebody online, they're going to say,

wow, who did you pay to make that?

How much did you spend on that video videos that people can

actually believe that they were.

They can't believe that they were actually shot with an iPhone.

Yeah that's exactly right.

Now that's a fantastic segue for for my next question, which is around

I guess what best types of videos can you shoot with the iPhone?

Yes, definitely.

Good point.

Because I don't think I was mentioned right at the top.

The iPhone is great.

You need to understand its limitations as well.

So what I don't recommend, for example, is trying to shoot like a football

match or, say, let's imagine that your company has a football team, right?

Don't try and shoot an amazing football video.

I'm standing on the touch line with you with your iPhone.

For that kind of video, you need A long zoom lens, the same if you're doing a

conference and you want to shoot the speaker up on stage and you want to get

nice close up shots of the audience.

Those are not ideal, but the way you need to use your iPhone is in these ways.

Firstly, it's great for your kind of home studio type video where you're in a very

controlled environment where you can get a tripod mount and put it on a tripod.

Basic lighting.

And because as I mentioned, the quality is excellent.

If you use your phone you can create some really high quality

looking small studio type videos.

So that will be one type.

The other type, the social videos that don't have to be particularly Amazing.

They have to be good content, but they're videos where you happen to,

for example, stumble upon things.

So say you're going to a lot of meetups, for example, or conferences, and you

meet people who are in your peer group, people that you look up to, or even

clients where you can do these really.

Nice interviews, quick interviews with them.

You can basically pull them aside and say, is it okay if we do a

five minute interview, find a quiet spot and shoot an interview?

It could be a content interview.

It could be a testimonial, those kind of videos, particularly the content

interviews work great on social media, on Facebook and things like that.

People will stop.

Watch a video on Facebook way beyond, just seeing a still image.

They'll actually be a lot more engaged with the video.

So those social videos.

Also, the other one I quite like is what I call slice of life videos.

That means open up the curtains a bit of your own life.

And what are you about?

So what do you stand for and what does your business stand for?

And that, maybe you've got a hobby, a very visual hobby.

Your business, you might think is not very visual.

Not easy to cover on video, but if you've got a hobby, for example,

I know people that do one business owner does a lot of bungee jumping.

That's his hobby or another one does a lot of sailing.

We'll try and bring that into your business message and show,

what kind of person you are, how.

You are and you can talk about your business in different

locations, not just in your office.

So you can get out on location and use that message, use the metaphor of the

sailing or the bungee jumping and apply that to something you want to talk about.

Related to your business and the fact that your iPhone is portable, it's the

camera that you always have with you.

That means you can leverage that at any time to create these really

much personal engaging videos.

Yeah that's fantastic.

And that's absolutely spot on.

I know from the limited amount of video stuff that we've done since

initiating our video news updates with our audience, we found that The

engagement with us has increased tenfold and people don't expect 100% polish.

What they're looking for is a human connection.

And that's, the beauty of video.

It's the closest thing to having a one on one conversation with somebody.

Absolutely.

And I've got a direct example of this.

Only recently, I was trying to contact the CEO of a big American company.

I won't name names right here, but I basically was trying to figure

out how could I contact them?

And I went through the usual channel, which is, the contact

us link on the website.

Went through there, took me ages to get any kind of reply back.

When I did, I got into, an email conversation with somebody working there

and it just wasn't going the way I wanted to and I just thought I was basically hit

a brick wall so what I did was I thought I'm going to go direct so I recorded a

video I got on camera I recorded a video for the CEO explaining who I was what

I've got to offer why I think I would be good for them they would be good for me

and got on video I put it on YouTube and set it to unlisted meaning that nobody

else could find it in search and I sent the CEO an email and the very important

to put a good Subject line in your email.

And I put simply from a fan in the UK, so it wasn't a kind of pitching email.

It was just from a fan in the UK, which I thought would be quite intriguing.

A little email in there saying I've made a video for you.

It's unlisted, so it's only for you.

Please check out my video.

And a day later, I got an email directly back from the CEO saying love your video.

Thanks for taking a fresh approach.

I never see this kind of thing.

Let's talk.

And that basically started a direct response.

Email correspondence with the CEO.

So that's one example of what you're talking about there.

That's fantastic.

It wasn't it wasn't Tim cook at Apple, was it?

You were trying to get the inside word on the next iPhone release.

That would be a great idea.

No, it wasn't Tim Cook or it wasn't the it wasn't Mike Zuckerberg like

that, but it was somebody pretty big.

So yeah, no, that's just one example of what you're talking about there.

Yeah it's great.

It's it's, it just opens up the, I guess the line of communication to people and it

just, it really, I guess it gets people's guard down because they just know who

you are or they can connect with you at

a deeper level.

Yeah they can just see, they can just look, they can just see how you're coming

over, how passionate you are because in an email, it just, everything looks the

same, really, when they people see you and they see a little bit of, your background,

where you happen to be and just everything about it makes you feel like you're

talking to people and I've had the same when I've, as my products become quite

famous, I've not myself personally, but my product, people tend to notice it and

they stay, watch your video and things.

And I've been to meetups here in London where People have come over to me

and said, I know you from somewhere.

Don't I?

Or they spot you and they'll come up and say I've seen you on video.

Let's talk.

And it opens up this immediate dialogue.

Whereas if you go unknown into a meetup, it's quite daunting.

You don't, nobody knows.

You don't know who to talk to first, but sometimes if you regulate with

your videos, people will start to recognize you in your niche.

And that just opens up these conversations in real world meetings as well.

Yeah, absolutely.

Who needs broadcast TV these days?

All right.

I'd like to pull it back a little bit.

We got a little bit off topic there, but let's go back.

So we've just touched on some of the best uses of video.

What are some some of the uses which aren't really suitable for

the iPhone?

Apart from the one I mentioned, which was shooting football, trying to, shoot

zoom, zoom shots of football matches close up and that kind of stuff.

That would be the one.

I think there's not too many I think of really.

I think it's, if you're doing real kind of documentary style

filming, it's a bit of a challenge.

You can do it though.

There are actually in fact, journalists who are using iPhones

for big American news organizations.

They're using them.

To actually capture news that actually gets broadcast on TV.

But I think if you're trying to shoot more of a documentary style, which you

might want to do for business as well it's quite hard sometimes just to be

able to vary the shots by zooming a lot.

And, if I was shooting a documentary, I'd be constantly shifting the zoom on, on

a bigger camera to get like a face shot and then a wide shot and then a mid shot.

So I think that can be challenging, but on the other hand, I think if you move.

What I say is my tip is a zoom with your body, zoom with your

feet, zoom with your feet.

That means.

In and out and move around the action getting close.

Don't hang back and try and move in so it can be done It's just a little bit more

a bit more challenging other than that though I think it's much better to shoot

regular videos on your iphone that only Shoot one video on your proper camera

or some people I know that I deal with they I say to them You know, you're going

to get a video And they'll say, yeah, we're planning our video for next March.

That's going to be our video.

It's going to cost us about 10 grand.

And I'm saying, that's great, that's not till next March.

What are you going to do about video now?

Because this is a revolution going on right now, and you're going to get left

behind and you're better off making little shorter, easy to make videos now than

just waiting and waiting to get your one.

Big, huge video.

And I'm not saying that having a great professional shot video is bad.

Sometimes that can be ideal for a homepage or whatever that can work really well for

you, but also have a, another approach as well to create more regular content.

Okay.

Absolutely.

All right.

I think we've convinced the listener that they need to go out and shoot some video.

So we've got we've already got the iPhone.

What other tools do we need to allow us to shoot good quality

video?

Getting your brain in gear that you're the way how you plan your shoot and what

you, how you visualize what you shoot.

That's the first thing that comes before anything.

So developing some of those skills, very useful for whatever videos you're making.

Secondly, in terms of, hardware and things like that, keeping the camera stable.

So one mistake I see people make is they film things that don't

need to be handheld, but they tend to hand, hand, hold it.

For example, I've seen a fitness coach, one example, they're

doing some kind of exercise.

They're not moving around that much.

They're in a frame.

They're not moving out of frame.

But they just hand their phone to somebody, like their

boyfriend or whatever, their child, I don't know to hold it.

And it's just wobbling around so much.

It just makes you absolutely seasick when you watch it.

And there's no reason why that phone shouldn't be on a tripod.

There's a whole range of different cases you can get.

I go into more about that in the training, but one example would be

the glyph, G L I F, which you can look up on, on Google or in Amazon.

And it's a low cost little case that the iPhone slides into, and that

gives you a standard tripod thread.

That means you can use it on pretty much any standard tripod.

So that would be like a key equipment.

Then you're going to start thinking about microphones and adapters.

You can get an adapter that will enable you to plug in a lot of

different microphones into your iPhone.

That's again, a big advantage over some of the older pocket cameras

that had no microphone input socket.

So then you've got to decide which microphone.

I won't go into that in too much detail, but you've got to think what

kind of videos you're going to make.

Are you making static videos?

Are you going to be moving around in your videos?

What kind of conditions are they going to be outside when you shoot videos?

Is it going to be windy conditions, that kind of stuff.

So getting a microphone and you can start off low cost, 25 at

one end for a microphone upwards.

So that's, that would be another handy accessory.

Then as you get more into it, you're going to think about lighting.

And what's amazing now for me is that the cost of lighting has tumbled.

And when I was looking at lighting of say five, six years

ago, I would be looking at.

2, 000 at the lower end upwards to get two or three heads lighting kit minimum

now on amazon Somewhere amazon you can find these softbox lighting kits.

They use these daylight fluorescent bulbs You can pick up a three headed

kit a kit with three lights It's in the region of 180, something like that, even

a bit less, sometimes three headed kit and a three headed kit can give you a

nice looking studio type environment.

And also just using one light you're doing, if you're speaking to camera

and you're sitting at your desk, just using one light can be very

effective or doing an interview.

So those would be the key bits of kit really.

Oh, that's great.

It sounds like you don't need a lot at all to actually get out

there and actually start shooting.

So certainly, from my perspective, there's nothing holding you backless.

Now go out there and shoot some video.

And improvise, I think getting a small, I

think that case is about 20.

Getting that and a small little mini tripod, you can shoot with that.

And the other thing is, if you don't yet want to get into the microphones, if you

happen to be wanting to film yourself.

And you've got a laptop or a desktop and you already record

audio for your training videos.

You could actually use the microphone that you've already got.

So you could basically record the audio using your desktop microphone,

whatever you happen to be using.

Record the audio onto that, onto your computer and shoot

the video on your phone.

And then you can you can, send those files off and get them matched up together.

That would be one way of doing it if you're, if you want to start slowly.

Yeah, that's a

great tip.

So obviously the the microphone the embedded microphone on the iPhone is not

that good a quality I've heard, is that

right?

It's actually quite good compared to the older pocket cameras is actually

better than a lot of them It's just that and it's actually fine if you get

close to it And if you've got no other choice, then having it close make sure

you choose a room That's not too echoey where the acoustics are quite good.

And I advise people to dampen down their room So a TV trick would be you know

using a blanket on the desk or in the window something to basically dampen

down the echo that will help your videos but It's and it's also not bad if you're

shooting kind of reality style where you're shooting things in action and you

haven't got a microphone you're going to get pretty good results but there's

nothing to be having a microphone up on your lapel collecting that audio because

we just talked about this kind of one to one personal contact if your audio

sounds rich if it sounds good that really creates that connection because you really

feel like that person is talking to you.

In the kind of way that your ear is used to hearing them as opposed to

them sounding really distant or echoey.

The answer is you can shoot without it, but I advise using

a microphone wherever possible.

Yeah, absolutely.

One tip I've got for that.

If you're looking at getting something which is going to have multiple uses,

I've got something called the Zoom H1, which is a little personal recorder.

And generally what I'll do with my videos, I'll actually record directly

into this audio device and hold it just under the frame, hold it like a in my

hand and hold it just under the frame.

And it produces a really good quality sound.

In fact this podcast is using.

H1 right now.

The other good thing is that it has so many other uses.

So it's very portable and light.

You can travel with it, no problems at all.

You can use it as a USB microphone on your computer.

And you can also mount it atop of a tripod or a camera as well.

So you can use it almost like a shotgun mic.

Yeah, that's a great tip.

And another one is if you're.

You are really stuck and you don't have a mic and you wanna just try something else.

You could, if you happen to have a second I device, so maybe you've got

another iPhone in the house or you've got an iPod or an iPad, you could

actually capture the audio to that.

So you could say you're trying to interview somebody and you you could

actually, and you've got a friend with you who's doing the filming.

You could hold your iPod and use that as the microphone.

That's a really

great tip, and everybody has more than one eye device.

Yeah, normally they do.

So yeah, it's not about exactly right.

This is all about using this equipment that you've got around you and

coming up with some great results.

That's great.

I think I think that's probably where we're going on just about 30 minutes now.

So I appreciate that.

You've got some more appointments.

I don't want to take up too much of your time.

Let's wrap it up now.

So in summary do you have anything to add to what we've

discussed?

I would say, just to go back to what I was saying before the

opportunity is really now because a lot of people are using video.

They're basically carving up the land really and creating videos in

their niche and using keyword and keywording to keyword their videos.

So the opportunity is now to really carve a bit of territory out there

for your particular business online.

And that requires.

Regular video content and coming up with a plan to create a video and setting

yourself a deadline like I mentioned before that I used to have to do in TV

work and the idea being, you're going to say let me see if I can make, for example

one video a week for the next sort of six weeks and write that down and try and

figure out your content, what you're going to do and, make your life easy as well.

If you can record a batch of videos together then do that.

In TV, we'd never record, particularly with studio shows, we'd

never, record one show unless it happened to be a live kind of show.

We'd never record one every week.

We'd normally record a few in a day and the same goes with your videos.

Come up with a plan and something that's going to work for you and then literally

try and record a bunch of videos together and that makes it a lot easier for you

and then use things like outsourcing to the burden of the editing side of things.

And, you create the video, you shoot the video, and you can

always let somebody else like your good self take care of that.

The other end.

Yeah, that's exactly right.

One of the biggest the barriers that are, that I find many small

businesses have is that them.

The technology and the fact that it takes so long and it's such a

learning curve to actually learn to edit and then syndicate your content.

And that's where we've introduced video edits.com which we'll take your

unedited footage and do the rest for you.

So if you just give us the file we'll brand up your video.

We'll edit out any bits you don't want at a, an intro and an outro.

Get it up to your site and then syndicate it across to All the

different platforms that you need so we essentially make it easy for you

to just get out there and shoot video

That's excellent.

That's why learning the shooting skills is so useful because that's the one

bit that the business owner needs to do because they're in their location.

They can shoot it.

They know their business very well.

That's the one skill to develop and then absolutely if time's limited, which it

normally is, then definitely outsourcing that side of it is a great idea.

Excellent.

Thanks, Jules.

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com, which is our done for you video editing service.

So that essentially will mean that you're going to be receiving.

iPhone video hero for free.

I hope you take advantage of that offer.

I can tell you now that I can guarantee you're going to get a return on your

investment in iPhone video hero.

It's such a sensational product on its own.

But when you combine that with a 20% discount with any of our packages over

at video edits you're onto a sure winner.

Okay, Jules where can people go to to find out a little bit more about you?

Do you have any product that people might be able to find a

little bit more about what you do?

I've got a blog.

It's fairly new.

Actually.

I'm, I did things in backwards.

Really.

A lot of people say, create a fantastic blog and then create products.

I did it the other way around.

So I did the product first, but I do have a blog.

That's video hero.

com so simply video hero.

com and I'm planning to do a lot more blogging and giving a few more

techniques and strategies about video marketing and video skills.

So that's the best place to connect with me and get some

regular new content as well.

Sure.

Fantastic.

And I believe you've also got a, got an ebook out at the moment.

What's included in this ebook?

Yes, that's another option.

If you want to just see a few more of the things that I've talked about

today and get a little bit more background to why I think your iPhone

is a very powerful device video, then definitely I've got an ebook.

You can go and find that if you go to iPhone video hero.

com iPhone video hero.

com slash M stands for missing manual.

It's the iPhone video marketing, the missing manual iPhone video hero.

com.

Fantastic.

We'll put links to all the websites we've discussed in the show notes below.

Excellent.

All right, Jules, thanks very much for coming on.

I have one more favor to ask of you, if you don't mind for any of our

listeners out there who have any questions, do you mind popping back

to visit our site every now and then just to check out the comments below?

Absolutely.

That would be a pleasure.

Definitely.

All right.

Fantastic.

So listener, if you've got any questions at all that you want to shoot at Jules

just to use the comments below the show notes and I'll ensure that Jules is

notified of those and he'll he'll come across and answer any questions you have.

Okay.

Jules, thanks very much for coming on the call.

I really appreciate you taking the time today and I look forward to hopefully

speaking with you again shortly.

Yeah.

Cheers,

Jake.