In part two of our conversation with Dayton poet laureate, educator, activist, culture keeper, and Kettering Foundation Democracy and the Arts resident artist Sierra Leone, we follow the threads of memory and imagination from a gallery of story quilts in Hamilton, Ohio, to the Legacy Sites of the Equal Justice Initiative in Montgomery, Alabama.
Along the way, Sierra reads American Libation III: Weaving an Amendment for Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, her response to Carolyn Crump's quilt Lovely One. She takes us inside The Belonging Project, where the stories of more than 100 Dayton residents are being harvested and turned into theater. And she shares a new poem born of a week with fellow Democracy Defenders led by Kimberlé Crenshaw in partnership with, a poem about how ideas persist and how thorns of memory grow from the womb of subjugation.
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Sierra Leone, Part 2 Sierra Leone Believes Poetry Is Essential Civic Infrastructure
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Bill Cleveland:From the Center for the Study of Art and Community, this is Art Is Change, a chronicle of art and social change where activist artists and cultural organizers share the strategies and skills they need to thrive as creative community leaders.
My name is Bill Cleveland. This episode is part of a special Art in Action series produced in partnership with the Charles F. Kettering Foundation's Democracy and the Arts program. In these episodes, we'll be speaking with artists, cultural organizers, and arts leaders who are navigating and challenging current efforts to limit free creative expression and free speech. Together, we'll explore what freedom of expression means in practice, not as an abstract right, but as a lived responsibility at the heart of democratic life.
Now, in part one, Sierra took us into a world where poetry lives in neighborhoods and classrooms, in the stories of elders, in the imagination of young people, and in the long, patient work of showing up and speaking up. We talked about presence as a creative discipline, about poetry as a kind of civic infrastructure, and we heard Sierra's American Libation: Homage to an Elder, her tribute to Dayton artist Willis "Bing" Davis.
In part two, those threads of memory and imagination travel a bit further. We'll follow Sierra into The Belonging Project, where the stories shared by over 100 people have been harvested and are becoming theater. We'll travel with her to Montgomery, Alabama, and Bryan Stevenson's Equal Justice Initiative, where an encounter with the deep and terrible legacy of enslavement has sparked her inevitable poetic response. And we'll ask a question that has run beneath this entire conversation: Where do the poetic path and the democracy turnpike cross and join?
But before all that, we'll visit the Fitton Center for Creative Arts in Hamilton, Ohio, where Sierra joined six other poets in responding to an exhibition of quilts, one of which was a portrait of Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson called Lovely One.
Part 3: Quilted Stories
So, Sierra, how did this quilt-inspired project come about, and what was it about Carolyn Crump's Ketanji Brown Jackson quilt that called out to you?
Sierra Leone:We held the reading in an art gallery space where a group of the quilts were exhibited. I believe 32 quilts and 30 quilters participated in the exhibition, so the quilts are throughout the entire building. And it was so perfect to hold the event inside the gallery space. And the seven of us poets, we responded to seven quilts. And then the foundation put together an anthology booklet. I responded with another American Libation piece. I chose to respond to—
Bill Cleveland:Sierra Leone 00:04:30 Yes, this piece is "American Libation III: Weaving an Amendment for Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson."
I / who believe in visible freedom / who awaken
resting warriors / on the other side / I / who sit
at the feet of elders / and venerate the vestige
of unraveling repurposed fabric / sew a story /
grandmother / knots into layers of protection /
embroider blessings of liberty / cut out shapes
of tooth-edge symbols of rebellion / sew
into the sacredness / from cloth made of blood
and soil / wrapped in a lineage of love / memory
keeper / gathering narrow loom strips of dark
stained sorrow / mend bleeding hearts / harken
the hands of traditions / textile rhythms / of earth /
water / breath of life / stitch threads of light /
into the souls of Black folk / crying out
from the seams of twoness / I / who believe
in freedom / speak their names / offer libation /
clothe myself in ubuntu armor / and middle passage
prayers / take strains of hair and sisterlock
codified redemption / drape chest / waist / and ankles
in cowrie shell courage / crossing seas of separation /
daughter of seventh son / with sun flowered
hazelnut eyes / born of dirt and duty
whose second sight / birthed a love supreme.
Thank you.
Bill Cleveland:Sierra Leone 00:07:18 Yes, I did a lot of research, and read her autobiography, Lovely One, and spent time with other articles that Justice Brown Jackson had written. But it was her humanness—
Bill Cleveland:Sierra Leone 00:07:45 —and then her parents in Florida, where they were able to grow and develop as teachers and educators in the face of oppression—just building that world and the support for her to grow her love and appreciation for theater and drama, and to be on the debate team, and be accepted into one of the world's best institutions. And her struggles of having family members who faced run-ins with the law, her work on a sentencing commission.
I thought that was so interesting because when I worked on my first master's degree, my thesis work was on prosecutorial power and mandatory minimum sentencing. And her doing the work around legislation to shape how we engage folks who are struggling with disabilities.
And then getting opportunity after opportunity to grow into the human who would have one of the hardest jobs on planet Earth.
Bill Cleveland:Sierra Leone 00:08:42 And I felt a response to that was needed more than what we all can research and read and learn about her in a very short period of time.
Bill Cleveland:You know, every society gets to decide what stories rise to the surface, and often what part of what story rises to the surface. And I believe it is the job of the poets often to take the parts that seem to fall to the ground and raise them up, those petals of the flower, and get a little wind under them and, and celebrate them.
And also, remind us that the headline that we all get excited about would, would not be possible with that rich foundation. All the lived wisdom rises up from that story. My ideal person on the Supreme Court has a life that teaches them how the human story meets the law. That is where the Supreme Court has to do its work.
Sierra Leone:Bill Cleveland 00:09:53 Yep, have that.
Sierra Leone:Bill Cleveland 00:10:02 Yes.
Sierra Leone:Bill Cleveland 00:10:09 For someone who's listening, who is affected and cares deeply about their community the way you do, and aspires to be a, a civic leader in the manner that I think you have become, what would you tell them are the first steps that they need to be thinking about when they enter into the kind of a life path that you have taken?
Sierra Leone:Bill Cleveland 00:11:16 So it must first be an internal driving force.
Sierra Leone:Bill Cleveland 00:11:25 Right.
Sierra Leone:And when you do that, as we tell young people, you will revisit it in college, potentially through a term paper, through a community service project, and it will begin to sprout. Those tendrils will begin to grow. And as they grow, you're able to decide, and to hopefully have the people around you who can support you in practicing and developing innate discernment to know what direction to move in.
And so for me, it wasn't just, "I'm going to wake up and be civically engaged." You know, I was born into an extremely large family, 14-plus aunts and uncles. I was born into a democratic society where I went to high school with 12 of my first cousins. So I needed to negotiate and navigate, and it came naturally, and doing the work of ensuring that we were all seen and heard and headed in the same direction before we decided to collaborate on possibly going to the park or sharing three bikes and there were nine of us there, or one pair of skates, or food, or whatever it was.
My grandmother did a great job of ensuring that we understood how democracy worked on a micro level, starting first with family. And from that, it grew into cares and concerns, because I grew up in a world on the west side of Toledo, Ohio, and the west side of Baton Rouge, Louisiana. And so in both of those spaces, I learned what was missing, the blight, the challenges, and I wanted to confront those things.
And so my first career path was through the work of criminology and criminal justice, and getting degrees in that work, and then studying human behavior in graduate school, and understanding what was underneath, what I was living and seeing, and taking what my mentors told me. Professor and anthropologist Angela Siner at the University of Toledo telling me, "Choose your approach.
"If it's going to be through poetry, do it through poetry. Choose your angle. You can't fight every battle on every front. Find your strengths, find your allies, find those who want to do the work with you. And in the spaces where you're not excellent, please identify those who are, and you'll have partners.
"You'll have people you can go back to, to help shape the work. And as you grow and evolve with each iteration, the work that you have done will build the perfect foundation for whatever is to come next in your career. Stay practical, stay centered in intention, and do not be afraid to get mentors, be a mentee.
"And those mentors, they do not have to be alive. You can go to the library—
Bill Cleveland:Sierra Leone 00:15:21 "—plenty of mentors there."
Bill Cleveland:Sierra Leone 00:15:30 Ask a question at every turn. And, and when you're in spaces with human beings like Bill Cleveland, question them.
Part 4. Poetry, Democracy, & Belonging
Bill Cleveland:Sierra Leone 00:16:11 First and foremost, I would say the question makes me think of how the work is just never done. Poetry is, for me, it is always proposing a question. It's not looking for answers. And I think in advocacy, the thing that makes it different for me is that we're looking for fairness and equality and looking to see how the systems and those in charge of those systems are working to benefit the will of the common man, and how are we choosing to live together in that work.
And I see pretty much a poem as a way to express a feeling, a, a thought, a belief, or desires. How am I taking imagination, which I think is what the Constitution or the Bill of Rights [does], it feels imagined sometimes, when it's not being utilized in practice in a way that it needs to be on the ground.
Bill Cleveland:Sierra Leone 00:17:21 It feels to me that poetry and democracy shares the same spirit. The spirit of "I'm going to take this snapshot in this moment in time," because that's what you are, most times, responding to: a moment, a scene, a picture—and noticing that so deeply that you leave something for others to grapple with, to confront, and to make better. And it seems that is the work of what we're doing with democracy over and over again. Each generation is defining for itself: What is it? What will it be? What will we leave?
Bill Cleveland:Sierra Leone 00:18:14 What is next? And for the poem, for me, I feel, embodying what the poem is . . . many days I am asking that question a lot: What is next? Am I prepared? And am I leaving this space better than I found it?
Bill Cleveland:Sierra Leone 00:18:39 Yes, always listening. And so one way, to close, that work is being done is through The Belonging Project. Yes, The Belonging Project is a project where the Charles F. Kettering Foundation and the Human Race Theatre Company came together, and we interviewed and held listening sessions with about 130 local citizens. We held these sessions to explore how our citizens are experiencing belonging, or exclusion, or being othered.
We did listening session with returning citizens and AmeriCorps Seniors, on to fatherhood groups, bankers, all sorts of people, every type of organization and community that you could imagine: churches, teachers, high school students. They all have contributed to this process. And it was through these sessions that I, as the playwright on the project, utilized, I would say, 80, 90% of verbatim theater, and took those conversations and turned them into a series of vignettes in the form of a radio play or staged reading. They will most likely stay in that form so that they can travel quickly. But this is a series that confronts, through story, through local citizens, at work, with family, social dynamics, unexpected upsets, and it takes their lived experience, and we wrote a show with it.
Bill Cleveland:Sierra Leone 00:20:52 Yes, it'll be mounted this fall at the University of Dayton's upcoming Imagining Community conference. And this work is grounded in Augusto Boal's Theatre of the Oppressed work, and just really navigating those different forms to allow the audience the opportunity to be a part of the show. In this work, the series of vignettes are presented, and then the second act of the work is this conversation and dialogue that happens with the community, and asking: “What is it that they experienced? What are they taking away? What can we apply and utilize to help us navigate current circumstances that some may be facing?” And so we use the series as a way to begin or complete very difficult conversations that must and need to be had.
Bill Cleveland:Sierra Leone 00:22:22 Oh, yes. We would like to put it in public domain in 2027, to ensure that anyone that would want to access it can.
Bill Cleveland:Part Five: Democracy Defenders
Sierra Leone:It was put together by Kimberlé Crenshaw and her organization. And so this is just one of the poems that was born out of that experience, and having an opportunity to see history, Black history in America, from the 1400s, through understanding the role of the Portuguese, on through an introduction to the Europeans, and on into the world of slavery and into the Americas.
And so having such a visceral, visual, and auditory experience, it left me with the way that ideas are persistent, and how we are currently living in the ideas of our forefathers, good or bad, indifferent, however. So this is what came forth for me.
Perennial Persistent
thorns of memory/ grew from the womb of
subjugation / like osmotic thirst / after inhaling
fresh baked sweets / made by my favorite aunt /
on a summer night filled with firefly
catching / green garden hose drinking and
spraying / each other and the rosebush nearby /
sometimes / I would brush against the plush
petals / prickle pointy pain / pleasant with floral
perfumed woody stems of freedom / grounded in
damp dirt / awakening memories that belong to
yesterday / sometimes / I confuse the elongated
nodes / with the scent of wild raspberries / leaves
sawed /down into botanical primer / solid
buckeye brown thorns grew /
like seeds picked from cotton bolls /
by red-tinted fingertips / worn and washed / in
the innocence of an idea.
Bill Cleveland:Sierra Leone 00:25:47 And so those, those, those buckeye brown thorns that grew like seeds picked from cotton bulbs by red-tinted fingertips worn and washed in the innocence of an idea. And that idea is that slavery was correct.
it, even after the top of the:Bill Cleveland 00:26:25 Well, and the thing is, Sierra, I think all of us wish that it was true that when you learn something, it sticks, but I think we know that's not true. You have to learn it over and over, and I think that's what poets are for, is to speak, and reflect, and listen, and reflect, and repeat, but always in a way that resonates with the moment that we're in.
t's not just history from the:Sierra Leone 00:27:42 Yeah, visiting Dunbar's work does that for me here locally. Being with poets like Lucille Clifton. There is a work that's right here, Terrance Hayes, I love it. It's called Watch Your Language. He takes you through his map of his poetic genealogy. He shapes his entire poetic genealogy.
For me, I love this anthology, How We Do It, edited by Jericho Brown [and Darlene Taylor]. There are so many contemporary poets that I'm learning to love and appreciate, the opportunity to spend, to be quoted by that Black Eyed Pea, Nikki Giovanni, or to shake loose of my skin like Sonia Sanchez, to rise above it all like Maya Angelou.
To sit on a cold day and read Robert Hayden's work. To sit there, for me to be in Chicago hanging out on Bronzeville, loving Gwendolyn Brooks and, and the way that she loved her city. There are just so many young poets that I'm appreciating, the way that they are handling the craft, and locally, my poetic peers who, who are not surrendering, who are not turning—who are allowing the rhythm of spoken word to, to have a relationship with the fine art and the literary art of the page.
I'm learning every day and learning to not be scared that I am the poet that I am, and there's nothing wrong with that. And you can get better if you choose to just learn something about others. And so you are so right in everything that you've shared here, and it is so beyond whatever time period we're visiting, but how will we bring it to the here and now? And how is it showing up in the here and now? And once we know that it's here, what in the hell are we going to do about it?
Bill Cleveland:Sierra Leone 00:29:52 Hey. In addition to that proverb—get understanding.
Bill Cleveland:Sierra Leone 00:30:13 Enjoy. Bye-bye.
Bill Cleveland:And thank you, listeners, for tuning in. Before we leave, here's a few things rising up for me from the second half of our conversation with Sierra Leone. First of all, poetry is a force to be reckoned with. It can be a way of paying and drawing attention, of asking hard questions, of making a powerful point, and making room for voices and stories that might otherwise go unheard. And as Sierra reminded us, the work of the poet and practicing democracy are never really finished.
Now, if you haven't heard part one of our conversation, I hope you go back and listen. It's a deep dive into Sierra's journey as a poet, educator, activist, and culture keeper, and into the stories and experiences that have shaped the work we've explored today. Thanks again for tuning in.
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