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From Law to Bitcoin with Jacqui: "Bitcoin is not a scam. It's... legit." - Part 4
Episode 375th August 2023 • Orange Hatter • Tali Lindberg
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In this episode, Tali discusses with Jacqui:

  • Benefits of attending a Bitcoin conference or meetup
  • The grey areas of Bitcoin within the legal landscape.

Highlights:

  • The new Blockchain Legal Institute (www.BLI.tools), a centralized platform for decentralized Bitcoin and blockchain resources.
  • Importance of communicating with politicians about growing involvement in Bitcoin.

About Jacqui:

CEO of the Blockchain Legal Institute (BLI.Tools)

Author of 'The Best 5 Minute Crypto Wealth Organizer' and 'The Bitcoin Cinderella & Her Adventures on the Blockchain.'

Founder, CryptoMom2 Consulting

To book a consult, visit www.cryptomom2.com

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Instagram: cryptomom2_bitcoincinderella

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LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/-cooper-jd-cryptomom2-talkshow

www.bitcoincinderellashop.com

www.bitcoincinderella.com

To learn more about Bitcoin: Join the Orange Hatter Women's Reading Club. Visit https://www.meetup.com/womensbitcoinreadingclubwithorangehatter

Please email questions/comments to Tali@orangehatter.com

Remember: Knowledge is empowerment! 🍊🎩

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Transcripts

Tali:

Hi everybody.

Tali:

Welcome to Orange Hatter.

Tali:

Today you'll be listening to part four of my conversation with Jacqui.

... Jacqui:

and then they'll start to ask questions.

... Jacqui:

And that's another reason why I wrote "the Bitcoin Cinderella" book, because

... Jacqui:

kids are gaming, they're understanding tokens, but they might not understand

... Jacqui:

the other side of the equation.

... Jacqui:

So I think as adults, we need to kind of open up these conversations and say,

... Jacqui:

do you understand what blockchain is?

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Do you understand what Bitcoin is?

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Do you understand what a rig is?

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And they might not, and the parents might not, and that's okay.

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They can learn together.

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I mean, that's part of the fun of, you know, just kind of

... Jacqui:

diving into a whole new area.

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And we're gonna stumble, and that's okay.

... Jacqui:

We just pull ourselves back up and figure it out again.

Tali:

Yeah, that's so true.

Tali:

When they get past the, well, actually when they enter the teenage years, there's

Tali:

no more, there's no more, "sure, Mom.

Tali:

I believe what you're saying," right?

Tali:

You gotta just, you plant the seeds and, and you hope and pray

Tali:

that the seeds will germinate and flourish into a healthy plant.

Tali:

But all we can do is plant a seed, and like you said, you model.

Tali:

And they're watching.

Tali:

And they may not openly agree with you, but it's possible that their

Tali:

wheels are turning, you know, inside.

Jacqui:

They see everything.

Jacqui:

They, they see everything, and they absorb everything, even if they don't

Jacqui:

always tell us what they absorb.

Tali:

Yeah.

Tali:

And I think one of the things that, uh, you just, uh, mentioned also

Tali:

is to recognize that mistakes are just part of the journey and to

Tali:

admit these mistakes and then also to openly discuss the mistakes.

Tali:

That's what I try to do with my kids, because it actually makes me feel like

Tali:

there's some value in me stumbling, when I can take the lessons and share.

Tali:

Otherwise, I feel like it was, like, just a private price that I paid.

Tali:

But if I'm able to share with my kids then I feel like, oh, okay, okay.

Tali:

I got my, I got my, my worth out, out of the, the mistake.

Jacqui:

I think, you know, none of us are perfect.

Jacqui:

We're constantly learning.

Jacqui:

We're constantly, you know, falling down a ... And I think us showing

Jacqui:

that we're learning different areas, one, shows that we're lifelong

Jacqui:

learners, um, which is part of the fun.

Jacqui:

And two, it also teaches us about resilience, because some of our

Jacqui:

investments are not gonna do well.

Jacqui:

Some of them will.

Jacqui:

And we just have to kind of figure out, okay, how are we packaging it all?

Tali:

Yeah, for sure, for sure.

Tali:

And now you said that you are very into education and you have a legal

Tali:

background, and so you wanna tell the audience about your new project?

Jacqui:

Yeah, so, so as I mentioned, um, you know, I, I started writing

Jacqui:

the Bitcoin Cinderella books and I'm really excited about that.

Jacqui:

But I, I realized when I was at one of the conferences, I've been at the Bitcoin,

Jacqui:

uh, conference in Miami twice now.

Jacqui:

Next year they're gonna be in, in Nashville, Tennessee.

Jacqui:

I do recommend that everyone try to go to a, a meetup and a conference.

Jacqui:

I mean, you're gonna meet wonderful people and learn a lot.

Jacqui:

You'll be able to ask questions.

Jacqui:

It's, it's a remarkable experience.

Jacqui:

But I was at the booth, and CleanSpark, which is a very eco-friendly, Bitcoin

Jacqui:

mining company, it's publicly traded...

Jacqui:

they had sponsored the giveaway of my book, "The Bitcoin

Jacqui:

Ciinderella and the Seven Dwarves".

Jacqui:

So I was at the booth giving it away, and a young attorney came up to me and said,

Jacqui:

how did you get into the blockchain space?

Jacqui:

And I said, well, I'm really not.

Jacqui:

I'm in education.

Jacqui:

And she said, well, can you share some resources?

Jacqui:

I said, yeah, I'm happy to.

Jacqui:

And as she walked away, I realized our information in our space

Jacqui:

is what's called decentralized.

Jacqui:

So that's...

Jacqui:

not one major place that you can go.

Jacqui:

And, and that's a good thing.

Jacqui:

Decentralization is actually very good in many ways.

Jacqui:

But I realized that what was needed was a centralized hub for all

Jacqui:

this decentralized information.

Jacqui:

And so the Blockchain Legal Institute and the, the website is www.BLI.tools is

Jacqui:

what I created with a partner of mine, and it's a, a centralized platform of all

Jacqui:

the decentralized resources from Bitcoin to blockchain to events, to associations.

Jacqui:

You name it, it's there.

Jacqui:

You can sign up for the free subscription and have access to a list of events and

Jacqui:

also resources, and then if you decide that you wanna take a deeper dive,

Jacqui:

there's really affordable subscriptions.

Jacqui:

But it's, it's amazing what's going on in the Bitcoin community and there's that

Jacqui:

whole vertical on the legal institute.

Jacqui:

Because we now have what's called ordinals, which are like NFTs,

Jacqui:

but from the Bitcoin perspective, and you know, just there's so

Jacqui:

much going on in our community.

Jacqui:

I'm really excited to share all about that.

Tali:

Yeah.

Tali:

And also in, because this is such a new space, there are a lot of questions

Tali:

about legal rights and property rights and privacy rights and things like that.

Tali:

Does your website cover any of those issues?

Jacqui:

All of those.

Jacqui:

Yeah, it, they, it's all focused on the laws across the United

Jacqui:

States as well as global laws.

Jacqui:

And, uh, there's a deeper dive into the various issues, you know,

Jacqui:

that you had mentioned as well as associations that are related to that.

Jacqui:

You know, different states have more activities than other states...

Jacqui:

more associations.

Jacqui:

And so it's, it's a really exciting resource to, uh, go to.

Tali:

Yeah, I think it's gonna be so helpful, because that's one of

Tali:

my biggest questions when I go to different meetups, I ask everybody

Tali:

who's been in the space for a while, and I always have the same question.

Tali:

I'm like, where, where is the line?

Tali:

I don't know where the line is.

Tali:

And you know, it's almost like there's, it's all gray areas.

Tali:

There's no black and white and gray in the middle.

Tali:

It's just all gray areas.

Tali:

So I think your tool is going to be so, so valuable.

Tali:

And it's BLI.tools.

Jacqui:

Yeah.

Jacqui:

And I just briefly am showing the, the platform.

Jacqui:

But there's, there's news, there's learn area, AI.

Jacqui:

I know we're talking about Bitcoin, but there's a Bitcoin vertical.

Jacqui:

There's, there's a little bit of everything for everyone who's

Jacqui:

trying to learn this space.

Jacqui:

But especially if you're focusing on the Bitcoin side, there's Bitcoin

Jacqui:

mining and legal considerations.

Jacqui:

There's the legal landscape.

Jacqui:

There's Bitcoin enterprises, because there's a lot of

Jacqui:

businesses involved in Bitcoin.

Jacqui:

I mean, it's really a remarkable space.

Jacqui:

I mean, the other thing is people right now are using, you know, Bitcoin rigs,

Jacqui:

not that everyone, you know, anyone who's listening might have to do this,

Jacqui:

but you can use it to heat your home.

Jacqui:

You know?

Jacqui:

So there's, you know, I, I have solar for the electrical side, but I've thought

Jacqui:

about, you know, the, the, the flip side.

Jacqui:

Okay, there's the air conditioning, now there's the heating.

Jacqui:

So there's a lot of different ways that you can do this.

Tali:

Yeah, I think at the Bitcoin conference there was a company that

Tali:

was showcasing a hot tub that was being warmed by a Bitcoin miner.

Tali:

That's cool.

Jacqui:

It's very cool.

Jacqui:

It's very cool.

Jacqui:

So, you know, again, there's, there's a lot involved in this space, and it's only

Jacqui:

gonna be become more creative and useful.

Tali:

Yes.

Tali:

There are so many tremendously talented and enthusiastic, passionate

Tali:

people working in this space, trying to make it more accessible to

Tali:

everybody, build it up so that it's more secure, build it up so that it's

Tali:

more convenient for people to use.

Tali:

So definitely a very exciting landscape.

Tali:

And I wanna thank you so much for chatting with us today and for all the

Tali:

resources that you have been working on...

Tali:

your Cinderella book, the new Blockchain Legal Institute website.

Tali:

Wonderful, wonderful resources.

Tali:

Any last suggestions for our listeners out there?

Jacqui:

The only thing that I would say is take that first step.

Jacqui:

You know, understand that, again, this is not investment advice, not legal

Jacqui:

advice, just personal opinion, part of the challenge that we have is getting

Jacqui:

past our fear of taking that first step.

Jacqui:

And you know, like I said, even if you just start with $10 to

Jacqui:

get the feel of it, just...

Jacqui:

you don't have to do anything else, but you're gonna see that money go

Jacqui:

up, your money go down and you're...

Jacqui:

but that's no different than stocks or anything else.

Jacqui:

So again, take the first step, ask questions, develop your own personal

Jacqui:

library of resources, go to those meetups, meet the people in the community.

Jacqui:

And doesn't have to be a lot of time, but you know, find your

Jacqui:

favorite, you know, talk shows to listen to, to educate yourself.

Jacqui:

And just be more aware and present in your own financial future.

Jacqui:

Because again, sometimes we give up that control to other people.

Jacqui:

And the other thing that I would say, once you make the decision to

Jacqui:

be part of this process, let your politicians know that you are, as well.

Jacqui:

Because you don't have, you don't have to be very vocal, but it's important for

Jacqui:

individuals within the political space to know that more people are participating.

Jacqui:

Because they're making the rules that then govern us and put the restrictions

Jacqui:

as well as protections out there.

Jacqui:

Now, protections are not bad, but sometimes protections are very

Jacqui:

restrictive, so it doesn't allow us to make the freedom of choice that we want.

Jacqui:

And so we all have to be educated consumers, and sometimes as

Jacqui:

consumers, we make mistakes.

Jacqui:

But again, I would rather make a mistake than have someone say, you can't

Jacqui:

make that mistake in the first place.

Jacqui:

So that's the only thing that I would ask everyone within their own comfort

Jacqui:

level is to be communicating with the politicians, just so that way they

Jacqui:

know that our community is growing.

Jacqui:

And that as voters, this is an issue that we would like to be considered.

Jacqui:

Because I think that that's important.

Jacqui:

Our financial future...

Jacqui:

we need to have some freedom to make those decisions.

Jacqui:

So I don't get very political, but the thing is that I think that if we don't

Jacqui:

speak up, just like if we don't vote, sort of is like a will and voting.

Jacqui:

I think those are two things that we all need to have and do.

Jacqui:

Those are freedoms that other countries don't always have, and so I think

Jacqui:

we should not take it for granted.

Tali:

Yeah, that's really great advice.

Tali:

And like you said, we're not trying to be political here, because Bitcoin

Tali:

is non-political, and that's one of the beauties about this, this

Tali:

protocol, this, this new, what we believe to be a new money standard.

Tali:

But really the protocol, the, the entire ecosystem around it, we are nonpolitical,

Tali:

but whichever political party you belong to, you know, reach out to the people

Tali:

who are in the government positions, and just let them know what you think.

Tali:

Because if you don't tell them they don't know.

Jacqui:

Exactly right.

Jacqui:

They don't know.

Jacqui:

So I appreciate your, my being on your show, and now guess what?

Jacqui:

You get to be on my show.

Tali:

Yay!

Tali:

Thanks for joining us today and learning with us today.

Tali:

If the discussion with our guest resonated with you and you would

Tali:

like to dive deeper into the world of Bitcoin, don't miss out on joining the

Tali:

Orange Hatter Women's Reading Club.

Tali:

The meetup link is in the show notes.

Tali:

Also, if there are women in your life whom you think will both enjoy and

Tali:

benefit from learning more about Bitcoin, please share Orange Hatter with them.

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