What do you want your investments to do for you and are they on track to do it?
Quote for the episode: "Goal statements: I now understand what I want my investments to do, and how I should be evaluating if they are doing that. I want my investments to get me to a goal. So are they on a path to do that? And are they doing so effectively when I compare them to their peers?" (08:45)
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Joseph Okaly:Hello, and welcome to the next series here on the
Joseph Okaly:Enjoy More 30s Family Finance podcast. As I said, at the end
Joseph Okaly:of the last season investments aren't my favorite thing to talk
Joseph Okaly:about, surprisingly enough coming from a financial advisor.
Joseph Okaly:But sometimes I think that I may be kind of the only one out
Joseph Okaly:there. So investments are what people have the most questions
Joseph Okaly:about. Investments or what people you don't make movies
Joseph Okaly:about but the mentalities that go with that the 'make it big'
Joseph Okaly:mindset, from what I have seen more often hinders the way
Joseph Okaly:people are able to operate and way they go, then then how it
Joseph Okaly:helps. So why I'm doing this series is because I want to help
Joseph Okaly:you reframe how you view how you utilize your investment. So it
Joseph Okaly:can be done in hopefully, a more constructive way and hence, this
Joseph Okaly:series is called Raising Your Investment Mindset.
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Joseph Okaly:it really really does help us reach literally millions of
Joseph Okaly:other young families out there that are just like you. Now if
Joseph Okaly:you want to hear a focus on finances that are related more
Joseph Okaly:to your general mindset, maybe to your parent's mindset, or
Joseph Okaly:even helping your kids with their own money mindset growing
Joseph Okaly:up, please make sure to check out some of our past seasons
Joseph Okaly:that dive deep into those areas. We started this year off even
Joseph Okaly:with a New Year's focus mindset, getting right in the right
Joseph Okaly:direction in the new year. So definitely check those out if
Joseph Okaly:you have not already.
Joseph Okaly:This series, though, like I said is about raising your investment
Joseph Okaly:mindset. How you approach investments as a tool to help
Joseph Okaly:you reach your goals. So just like a podcast entitled Raising
Joseph Okaly:Your Healthy Mindset would focus on a holistic view vs giving you
Joseph Okaly:just you know, five minute crash diet tips. This series isn't
Joseph Okaly:about stock picking or the next best crypto asset. It's about
Joseph Okaly:giving you the opportunity to better understand investments
Joseph Okaly:and their place in your overall plan, the opportunity to not
Joseph Okaly:perhaps be afraid of investments, because they are
Joseph Okaly:some unknown that you were really never taught about in
Joseph Okaly:school. The opportunity really to potentially avoid some of
Joseph Okaly:those pitfalls that we've seen many people out there making.
Joseph Okaly:Today, we are starting off with Investments Don't Do Good. This
Joseph Okaly:is one of my biggest pet peeves. So I will apologize in advance
Joseph Okaly:if you are listening and find me up on the soapbox. So maybe it
Joseph Okaly:is just guys. But I so often hear people say, you know that
Joseph Okaly:dude does really good, alluding to maybe the amount of money
Joseph Okaly:that individual makes or something. But have you ever
Joseph Okaly:just stopped and wondered what the heck that even means? Is
Joseph Okaly:there some scale that I'm not aware of out there where you
Joseph Okaly:pass above a certain threshold in the sky, and now you're in
Joseph Okaly:the 'doing good' camp? The truth is that whoever is likely
Joseph Okaly:whispering this into your ear is saying so because they either A)
Joseph Okaly:see this person buying a lot of stuff and so they're just
Joseph Okaly:assuming they have plenty of money or B) they somehow found
Joseph Okaly:out how much this person happens to earn and to them, that sounds
Joseph Okaly:like a lot. Either way that person is doing their own
Joseph Okaly:internal judgment type comparisons to arrive at that
Joseph Okaly:conclusion.
Joseph Okaly:To take this even a step further, think about if someone
Joseph Okaly:you know is driving across the country. You say to their
Joseph Okaly:parents, "Hey, how is Beth doing on her cross country trip?" If
Joseph Okaly:her parents say "she's doing good", you basically know well,
Joseph Okaly:well, nothing, right? You probably assume she's alive. But
Joseph Okaly:is she doing good because she seen a lot of cool stuff? Is she
Joseph Okaly:making really good time across country? Is she just driving,
Joseph Okaly:you know, really economically from a fuel perspective? How is
Joseph Okaly:she doing good? And when it comes to your investments, I
Joseph Okaly:want you to think about and be able to better determine what
Joseph Okaly:'doing good' means to you, and how to therefore then better
Joseph Okaly:evaluate it. The goal then for today's episode, so the 'if you
Joseph Okaly:can say this at the end of the episode, then you have
Joseph Okaly:succeeded' statement is "I now understand what I want my
Joseph Okaly:investments to do and how I should be evaluating if they're
Joseph Okaly:doing that." So again, "I now understand what I want my
Joseph Okaly:investments to do and how I should be evaluating if they are
Joseph Okaly:doing that." As you could probably tell we often get
Joseph Okaly:people saying that their investments are doing good. This
Joseph Okaly:like other scenarios really means almost nothing other than
Joseph Okaly:the person is currently arbitrarily satisfied with the
Joseph Okaly:performance investments. Again, as we've talked about on many of
Joseph Okaly:these different episodes are the tools that we're using to help
Joseph Okaly:us reach new goals. They are the fuel, but just like launching a
Joseph Okaly:spaceship, the fuel isn't the goal. If the goal isn't to just
Joseph Okaly:have a lot of fuel. The destination, space in this case,
Joseph Okaly:is the goal. So we need to adjust our thinking, first of
Joseph Okaly:doing good from some performance number on a piece of paper that
Joseph Okaly:makes us feel good or bad, because that's really just
Joseph Okaly:saying that we now have more or less fuel than we have before.
Joseph Okaly:But do we have enough fuel? Do we have the right fuel? Doing
Joseph Okaly:good therefore should mean on track to have the fuel we need
Joseph Okaly:to get us to our goal, that destination. So if my
Joseph Okaly:investments are doing good, that means they're on track to having
Joseph Okaly:the fuel that I need to get me to the goal that I'm trying to
Joseph Okaly:reach.
Joseph Okaly:If you earn 15% a year, let's say on your investments, which
Joseph Okaly:is a completely unreasonable expectation long term, by the
Joseph Okaly:way, for anybody out there listening, but you are not going
Joseph Okaly:to be able to meet your goal, then who really cares, right? I
Joseph Okaly:mean, great, I have more fuel for my rocket, but I still can't
Joseph Okaly:make it to outerspace. I'm going to blow up in the atmosphere,
Joseph Okaly:still really not that useful. This is why I say investments
Joseph Okaly:are far less important in the grand scheme of things than
Joseph Okaly:planning. The planning is what gives you clarity, and the
Joseph Okaly:planning is what makes things possible. So Joe, are you saying
Joseph Okaly:I should just ignore my investment performance
Joseph Okaly:altogether? No, I am not saying that. But if you're going to
Joseph Okaly:dive into the performance, you need to do it properly. Properly
Joseph Okaly:means comparing it to its peers. If you told someone about your
Joseph Okaly:investments, it should be number one, they are or are not, excuse
Joseph Okaly:me, they are or are not keeping me on a path to reach my goals.
Joseph Okaly:And two, they are or are not doing well compared to their
Joseph Okaly:peers. Again, they just can't do good on their own compared to
Joseph Okaly:nothing.
Joseph Okaly:Sometimes when someone has an existing investment, they say it
Joseph Okaly:is doing good. And what this oftentimes translates into is
Joseph Okaly:the area their fund is focused in may have done particularly
Joseph Okaly:well. Let's say your account went up 30% in 2021. You would
Joseph Okaly:say, "Hey, this is the best fund ever, I'm never going to sell
Joseph Okaly:it." However, let's say that when we looked at your account,
Joseph Okaly:all you owned was a real estate fund. While the real estate
Joseph Okaly:category index actually went up over 45%, 45%, in 2021. So your
Joseph Okaly:fund in reality did quite poorly. We compared it to its
Joseph Okaly:peers, what other funds like it should have done and your fund
Joseph Okaly:in this example, missed the mark by 15%. And this is true, by the
Joseph Okaly:way regarding the real estate category index this last year.
Joseph Okaly:It is also important to note that the year before that in
Joseph Okaly:2020, it went down over 11%, just to illustrate how it like
Joseph Okaly:most every category should be a piece of a portfolio and not
Joseph Okaly:representing the entire thing.
Joseph Okaly:The point though, is a huge trap we see so many people fall into.
Joseph Okaly:So if you don't have the desire or the ability to properly
Joseph Okaly:compare and evaluate your different funds, then you need
Joseph Okaly:to in my strong opinion either A) hire an advisor who knows how
Joseph Okaly:to do this for you, or B) use an allocation fund that has a
Joseph Okaly:manager who can make sure you aren't overly concentrated in
Joseph Okaly:any one area. So as we get to the end of this episode here,
Joseph Okaly:let's circle back to the goal statement that we said at the
Joseph Okaly:beginning. That statement was "I now understand what I want my
Joseph Okaly:investments to do, and how I should be evaluating if they are
Joseph Okaly:doing that. I want my investments to get me to a goal.
Joseph Okaly:So are they on a path to do that? And are they doing so
Joseph Okaly:effectively when I compare them to their peers?"
Joseph Okaly:So thanks for tuning in today. Join us next week for the
Joseph Okaly:episode called Buy High Sell Low. We're going to talk about
Joseph Okaly:how overall everyone knows buying low and selling high
Joseph Okaly:makes sense, but why so many people wind up doing the exact
Joseph Okaly:opposite.
Joseph Okaly:Overall, if you're able to implement what we covered today,
Joseph Okaly:fantastic as always, less to worry about and more focus on
Joseph Okaly:just going out there and enjoying life. If you're wanting
Joseph Okaly:help with these things, though, if you have questions you need
Joseph Okaly:help in clarifying, you can either head on head on over to
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Joseph Okaly:Management at nhwmllc.com. Until next week, thanks for joining me
Joseph Okaly:today and I look forward to connecting with you again soon.
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