On today’s episode of CyberBytes The Podcast I welcome the King of the Security Metaphor, Richard Bird!Richard talks about his tequila fuelled decision to move from construction project management into IT and the serendipitous events that led him to being the Chief Security Officer for API security vendor, Traceable.Richard and I also cover how the role of the CISO, the weight the role now holds on the individual in the job, and the impact that the CISO not being a true member of the C-suite has. This is not talked about enough despite high profile cases like Joe Sullivan and Uber, and I’m glad Richard does not shy away from his views on this.This is a meaty episode with great topics and Richard was a pleasure to record withYouTube & Spotify links in the comments.