Shownotes
Welcome back to Common Sense Ohio, where "right from the middle" means no topic is too hot to handle—especially when it comes to F bombs and bunker bombs. In this episode, co-host Brett returns from a month-long hiatus to join Norm as they tackle a packed agenda covering both global and local headlines.
Get ready for an unfiltered dive into international diplomacy as the hosts unpack recent U.S. military actions in Iran, including a discussion on the controversial use of bunker buster bombs and America’s ongoing approach to global regime change. Brett and Norm draw parallels from history, weighing the impact of American intervention abroad, with plenty of opinions on what actually works.
Back on the home front, they break down the ins and outs of Congress’s “big beautiful bill”, the pivotal legislation working its way through Washington. The guys debate the ever-climbing national debt, question why non-budgetary riders are buried in the bill, and challenge politicians to grow a backbone and make tough decisions, finally.
Ohio issues get their share of airtime, too. Find out why a local lawmaker wants to tie funding for pro sports teams to winning records, and get the latest scoop on Supreme Court decisions affecting immigration and local communities. From electric vehicle mandates to the wild idea of government-run grocery stores, nothing is off the table.
Whether you’re a political junkie, a sports fan, or just someone trying to make sense of today’s headlines, this episode delivers sharp insight and classic Midwestern no-nonsense. So buckle up and enjoy another week of Common Sense Ohio!
Moments
00:00 Diplomatic Struggles Before Ceasefire
06:45 Embassy Sovereignty and International Relations
14:47 Tax Deduction Disagreement in Congress
16:04 Debt Crisis and Legislative Challenges
24:14 Efficient Mass Transit Advocacy
28:58 Conditional Funding for Accountability
34:31 "Immigration Policy and Deportation Debate"
40:29 EV Mandate Reversal Spurs V8 Revival
46:57 EV Tax Registration Confusion
50:31 Grocery Prices Debate
57:32 Farewell: Brian, Bobby, Rick Remembered
01:00:15 "Strikes on Iran Nuclear Facilities"
Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH.
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Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients.
Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors.
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Well, look at that. You made it through another week. And it's Common Sense Ohio right from the middle. With all the F bombs and bunker bombs dropping, we figured we're probably the only show that said that. Maybe. Maybe. Well, welcome to another week of Common Sense Ohio. Yes, it's me, Brett Stranger.
Brett Johnson [:Been out for, like, I think it's a month. Taking vacation and work and such. So glad to be. Glad to be back.
Norm Murdock [:Welcome back.
Brett Johnson [:We missed you, Norm. Here, Steve. Steve. Out making. Working for a living, let's put it that way.
Norm Murdock [:So that's a good thing, taking what he's given.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah.
Norm Murdock [:And working for a living.
Brett Johnson [:Exactly. Working for a living. Yeah. We got a lot to cover. As we mentioned, F bomb and bunker bombs. The BBB is back in. Well, continues to be in the news. The big beautiful bill that is not the Better Business Bureau, SCOTUS decision on some ice movements.
Brett Johnson [:And. And we get some local stuff for Ohio, too. A Ohio Supreme Court decision on some fetus protection, I believe. But that good stuff. Always good stuff. Always good stuff. We're gonna jump right into it right after this. We're gonna hear from our sponsor, Harper, CPA plus.
Brett Johnson [:Well, I do have to say I was kind of surprised to hear Trump drop the F bomb. I mean, I think it probably describes his frustration to a T. I think that's ultimately probably why he let it fly.
Norm Murdock [:He was certainly angry in regards to.
Brett Johnson [:The Israel, Iran situation.
Norm Murdock [:Well, when you think of the diplomacy that Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, and these various negotiators from the US Kind of doing this shuttle diplomacy between Qatar, which is the link to Iran, like the Emir of Qatar is the person either J.D. vance or Rubio, or these various negotiators go in order to talk to Iran, because Qatar and Iran talk to each other. They're kind of like the pivot person that we deal with. And I think, you know, and obviously he's picking up the phone all the time to Netanyahu of Israel, and, yeah, I think he was super angry. It's like, okay, the ceasefire goes into effect in 12 hours. And then it's kind of like the end of World War I, where they fought viciously right up until the armistice, the exact time the armistice went into effect. And it's like, why are you doing that? Why are you killing each other and killing innocent people in apartment buildings or whatever you're doing? Why would you continue to do this? We've negotiated a ceasefire and it goes into effect in 12 hours. And the idea is that's to give you Time to tell all of your artillery and bombers and air force, you've got 12 hours to tell them to stand down.
Norm Murdock [:And instead they took that as like.
Brett Johnson [:Boom, we've got 12 hours left to go.
Norm Murdock [:It's a bonanza. Let's drop everything.
Brett Johnson [:Let's drop everything. Exactly.
Norm Murdock [:And so that was like, if you have peaceful intentions. Right. Why would you continue to fight right up until the deadline? It's like you're trying to maximize the opportunity to hurt the other side. And it betrays really that you have no intention to. Me, I don't think this ceasefire is gonna last because clearly they wanna still fight each other.
Brett Johnson [:Right. Yeah. And they don't want it to end necessarily.
Norm Murdock [:And I'm not saying they're equally entitled to fight. I'm that morally Iran is equal to Israel. I'm not saying anything of the kind. I'm just saying, you know, if you wanna stop the bloodshed and you've agreed to a ceasefire, then stop the bloodshed.
Brett Johnson [:Right.
Norm Murdock [:Yeah, it's. And so, yeah, he dropped the F bomb in addition to the bunker buster bombs and the Tomahawks. So, you know, a lot of people. I've been hearing a lot of people, including, like, Al Green, who tried to impeach Trump. Yeah. Yesterday. And the majority of the Democrats in the House voted against his impeachment measure. He only got 79 votes.
Norm Murdock [:And even Democrats in the House know this was a judicious and very limited use of American power. And it was on military targets. So these bunker busters basically, you know, blew up the nuclear weapons program, or at least that's what we're hoping is the result. So they would kind of like, in gosh, what's the Top Gun 2? If you remember Top Gun 2, they put a bomb down the hole to blow up the first layer of underground laboratories. And then in the movie, they dropped the following planes, had to drop another bomb into the same hole created by the first bomb. Well, that's exactly how this bunker buster operation went. They had these B2 bombers dropping bunker busters into the same hole that the previous bunker. So they.
Norm Murdock [:Because they penetrate allegedly 200ft. And the idea is the Iranians had built these labs at 300ft. So. So you got to blow up the first 200 to get to the last 100. So if you. So it was a very precise, very incredible. And no loss of life to the Americans mission. And then this submarine shot 30 Tomahawks out of one submarine to one of the other targets.
Norm Murdock [:So it was just an incredible display. And it was on military targets. And this is after, you know, the guy was. The ayatollah was given 60 days. And there were very serious warnings that if you don't sign the peace accord and the agreement to end your nuclear program and the enrichment, then hell's going to happen. And it did. So I'm kind of like, my opinion is Iran has been such a bad actor against our country for 50 years now, almost a complete 50 years. They went into our sovereign territory In Tehran, the U.S.
Norm Murdock [:embassy, that sovereign American territory that the embassy is on. It's like if it was right here in America, it's our soil. So the Russian embassy in the United States, that's Russian territory. That's how it works in international relations. They went onto our territory in 1979 when Jimmy Carter was president, and they kidnapped American diplomats. I mean, it doesn't get any worse than that. And then ever since then, They've had the 4H club, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and the hidden cell people. Like when Biden was president, ICE said 1,500 Iranians came over the border and Biden released.
Norm Murdock [:Half of those. Half were returned to Iran. The other half were undocumented. And they're in the country today. So hidden cell people. And they've been doing this stuff. They blew up the Marines, 281 Marines dead. And they blew up the Khobar Towers.
Norm Murdock [:They blew up the embassy in Beirut. They, on October, is it the seventh Hamas, Right. They raided an Israeli rock concert in Gaza. So, I mean, these are military attacks. And so when people say, well, why does the US have the right. Well, then I'd say, well, talk to Obama, talk to Reagan, talk to either of the Bushes, talk to Bill Clinton. America has been hitting foreign sovereign territory of other countries to defend our nation for the last, I don't know, 75 years or whatever. And so, like, this is nothing new.
Norm Murdock [:You know, we've been doing this a long time, so.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah, well. And hopefully we're getting close to. Well, as we just said, probably not. But it's. I don't know whether it's a regime change. I keep hearing no, I hope the.
Norm Murdock [:Iranian people rise up.
Brett Johnson [:It has to come from the people, though. Yes, that's right, it does.
Norm Murdock [:Because when we did, regime change, I mean, America, the CIA, Norman Schwarzkopf's father, who worked for the OSS and the predecessor of the CIA, we know now, because of all the records released, that the CIA was largely responsible for installing the Shah, who was very unpopular in Iran, and that set up the Revolution. And maybe we should have stayed the hell out of that. You know what I mean? So regime change really is not our. We're not that good at it.
Brett Johnson [:We're not that good at it. No. I mean, we can set it in place, but we don't. It's like a chess game. Yeah, I guess you could say that. It's just that if you don't control the board, it can go south very quickly, and we don't do a good job at that.
Norm Murdock [:You know, like, maybe. Maybe the best examples of regime change are the ones that happened in Germany and Japan after World War II, where, you know, because the Japanese viewed Hirohito as a. Yeah, Hirohito. They viewed him as a God. Right. They viewed him as divine. And so MacArthur, when he became the administrator of Japan in post war Japan, we designed the constitution with Japan. It kind of is mirrored on ours.
Norm Murdock [:Women got the right to vote, which they didn't have before. And. And we left the head of Japan as a symbol in place, even though he didn't have any government function anymore. And then the Japanese people voted, like they could vote a warlike party if they wanted, just like in Germany. You can vote in skinheads if that's what you want to do. Right. But they voted in, you know, democratic prime ministers. And ever since then, Japan has been like, Germany has been an ally of the United States.
Norm Murdock [:And that regime change came from within. We didn't pick their prime minister and say, this is your guy.
Brett Johnson [:Right.
Norm Murdock [:They voted for him.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah.
Norm Murdock [:Right.
Brett Johnson [:Well, and talk about strong economic partners as well, too. I mean, good grief. We've been.
Norm Murdock [:Yeah.
Brett Johnson [:With generations now of Japan, America relations and Germany, and we were head. We were head. I mean, that's an Iran situation. Just like it just changed. You know, nobody thinks of them as the enemy anymore at all. I mean, it was a slow turn, but it did it. We did it. Yeah, exactly.
Norm Murdock [:And we even paid to, like the Marshall Plan. Right. We even invested in the future of both of those countries.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah, no, it works. It works.
Norm Murdock [:I think it's gotta be organic. It's gotta come from the Iranian people. And I think, you know, I think even Obama regrets. There was that one period, like six months after he became president where he kind of encouraged, you know, if. I don't. I know some people call it the Arab Spring or whatever it was. And there was that glimmer of hope that democracy might spread in the greater Middle East. And in some ways there were some reforms in some countries, like in Egypt and Saudi Arabia, women Got the ability to drive.
Norm Murdock [:They didn't get executed if they didn't have a burqa. They softened up some of that cultural stuff. But the Iranian people were ready to throw off the ayatollah. And I don't know what we were supposed to do. Like, we tried the Bay of Pigs with Castro, and that was another disastrous regime change attempt. So what was Obama gonna do? What, parachute the 82nd Airborne in? No. So I don't know what he could have done.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You have to be at the right time at the right moment, and Trump may be. I mean, I know this has been discussed as this could be his legacy of a change. Who knows?
Norm Murdock [:But it's got to come up. It's got to come from the Iranian people.
Brett Johnson [:Right. Something started the ball rolling, and maybe this is it. Maybe. Who knows?
Norm Murdock [:Who knows, though? The economy, like our embargo and economic punishment on Iran has really, you know, since Trump has taken office. I mean, Biden kind of lifted it, Obama kind of lifted it. But then Trump got elected first term, and he really put the hammer on their economy. And I have heard a statistic of like 45% inflation rate. And so they're very. The mullahs are very unpopular with the secular portion of the Iranian population because not everybody there is a radical by any means. I mean, they actually had. Under the Shah, they had good relations with Israel.
Norm Murdock [:They were doing a lot of trade between them, and it was not a fundamentalist country at that time. So maybe they'll get back to that.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah, it's hope. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. You wanted to take a look at the big, beautiful bill. Boy, that's got a lot of moving parts, doesn't it?
Norm Murdock [:No kidding.
Brett Johnson [:That's moving around like crazy. Lots of different things. And it seems as though Congress has put some stuff in there that really is not budget policy, too.
Norm Murdock [:Well, the House and the Senate definitely have different versions at this point, and they'll have to resolve that before they can present it to the President. Because the Senate, for example, wants to really remove most of the salt or the state taxes that you can deduct off your federal tax return. The House wanted to be very generous to, like, California, Illinois, New York, where the taxes are pretty high. And they wanted to make that like the sales tax and the property tax more. They wanted to raise the amount of the deduction that you can do for that. And Trump kind of is like, well, if that's gonna get the bill passed, I'm for it. Because if the BBB doesn't pass Then all those Trump tax cuts that he did in his first term expire, and the tax rates for everybody in every bracket go up, and he doesn't want that. I don't think the American people want that, and I don't think the Senate and the House want that.
Norm Murdock [:I don't think anybody wants that. But that's what's gonna happen. And I think the Target is the July 4th weekend for the Senate to get this done and get it presented to the President with all these differences resolved. We are $37 trillion in debt as a country, and this bill does not even cut that much. Unfortunately, the House and the Senate, I mean, nobody wants to be the bad guy. Who wants to be the guy who says that your Social Security is not going to get an inflation adjustment this year, so you're going to have to stick with what you got in, in 2024. Who wants to be the guy that says to the Medicaid programs in the 50 states that we're gonna cut that back? And one fourth of Americans are now on Medicaid. And Medicaid was intended purely for poor people and the elderly, and it's now been expanded to immigrants, illegal or otherwise, in many states.
Norm Murdock [:And you know, it. It. So, so imagine you're a congressman. You have to run for office every two years and. And yet you're going to come out against, you know, increases in these programs. So something's got to happen. And, and I, you know, and it hasn't. It's not happening in the big bbb and it's, you know, the Doge cuts, most of those are not happening either in the big beautiful bill.
Norm Murdock [:So in a way, this big beautiful bill, it tweaks some things, but the big thing it does is it retains the first Trump terms. Tax cuts.
Brett Johnson [:Right? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I was kind of surprised. I was hearing the breakdown of the different pieces to it. And from what I'm hearing, even the BBB has, as I mentioned earlier, more regulatory stuff rather than budget. That's right, Moratorium. Or I should say not a moratorium, but a not allowing state and local officials to regulate AI stuff like that, Stuff like that.
Brett Johnson [:It's like, that's not budget. What are you sticking in there? So why are you messing this stuff up? Just get down to bare bones and they're chicken.
Norm Murdock [:They're chicken to do it.
Brett Johnson [:I think they are ultimately, I think to your point, they want to get reelected. We keep complaining about the budget. We keep complaining or not the budget, but our debt.
Norm Murdock [:The debt.
Brett Johnson [:And somebody's Got to raise their hand and kind of go, this is why we say no to this. This is why we say no and come up with a justification that makes sense.
Norm Murdock [:Yeah, work it out.
Brett Johnson [:It's got to stop. And they can say, you know what? I know I'm putting my reelection on the line. I get it. But this is why you voted me in. This is why it has to happen now. Because if it doesn't, the next generation's gonna say, next to 2, 4, 6, 8. And we go through another two decades of this crap.
Norm Murdock [:Yeah, if we.
Brett Johnson [:It has to happen. Raise your hand, grow some nads and do it.
Norm Murdock [:I totally agree. And if it doesn't happen, the statistics are really like, what this is portending for the future generations is truly slavery. Because the social safety net, like Social Security and Medicaid and these various programs, you know, the Women Infants and Children, the WIC program, all this stuff, it will become so lush for beneficiaries that you're gonna have, I think now it's a two worker to one dependent equation. In other words, there's two working taxpayers to support each of the people that are on some kind of a program.
Brett Johnson [:And this ratio is not a surprise. I remember hearing this back in the 80s and 90s. They projected this may not have been in the 2000s, but they were projecting it, it was going to happen. So this is not happen overnight. No.
Norm Murdock [:And what they're saying is if this continues unaddressed, it's going to be a one to one ratio. And what that means is the tax burden on that one worker to support his counterpart beneficiary out there in the population. His tax rate's gonna be well over 50%. And so you're gonna have workers deciding, am I better off just laying on the sofa and not working? Like, why don't I receive better? Like, why am I working instead of being a beneficiary? So it waters down people's motivation to be a taxpayer.
Brett Johnson [:Well, and to clarify, where I was thinking too, is, and I realize what we talked about, Medicaid and Social Security, those are the biggest piggy banks to look at. They're the biggest.
Norm Murdock [:And there's a lot of fraud, but.
Brett Johnson [:There'S a lot of other stuff going on that we can cut that doesn't necessarily have to affect Medicare drastically, as drastically. So let's take as much as you like or dislike what Doge did. I think it unveiled a lot of stuff that's like, okay, why do we have to have this? Okay, then it justifies, okay, we do have to have this, whatever the case might be, because it was a yang and the Yang kind of thing.
Norm Murdock [:Yeah, some of that.
Brett Johnson [:A lot of stuff to cut that. We don't have to necessarily go deep into Medicaid and Social Security. It's the other stuff that. Okay, maybe it's more born on states.
Norm Murdock [:Well, like the fraud. So there's an Ohio state representative that uncovered something like $600 million in fraudulent payments in the Ohio program alone. So, you know, let's identify, you know, doctors that are doing, you know, spurious billing, hospitals that are double billing. You know, these things that Doge found, you know, those aren't really. Those aren't. If we got rid of the waste and fraud that is not hurting legitimate recipients of WIC or Medicaid or, you know, come on, it's. I mean, how can people be so afraid to cut down these programs for waste and fraud? You know, like, that's basic. That's what we expect from our regulators and from our bureaucracy, is to identify these areas of waste.
Norm Murdock [:And it took this Doge experiment to dig all that out, and it's there. Congress can do something if it wants to.
Brett Johnson [:If it wants to, but they're so.
Norm Murdock [:Afraid, they don't want to be identified as, oh, you want to throw mama on the street and you want to take wheelchair people and throw them over a cliff and you're just going to let people die rather than paying their hospital bill? No, there's a humane way to do this.
Brett Johnson [:Right. And control the conversation. I mean, talk about the best scenario. If you're in control of the budget, which Republicans are for Congress and basically Senate as well, too. You're the one that controls the verbiage here. So find the waste. Find what doesn't necessarily hurt the most, and get it done. At least.
Brett Johnson [:At least show that you did. And don't play with the damn numbers.
Norm Murdock [:I think you said. I think. I think Brett said it right. You know, get some nads. Yeah, come on.
Brett Johnson [:You know, do it. And I'm sorry, kind of sexist.
Norm Murdock [:Yeah, but that's your version of the F bomb.
Brett Johnson [:Just do it. This is, you know, be. Be the representative that we voted in. And if you're, if your cohort, your. Your representatives, the people you represent said that this is why they voted you in, then go do it.
Norm Murdock [:Yeah, right.
Brett Johnson [:Go do it.
Norm Murdock [:Don't disappoint us again and again.
Brett Johnson [:I don't care if it's an R or a D, I really don't care.
Norm Murdock [:Right.
Brett Johnson [:Just get it done and I always.
Norm Murdock [:Say to my Democratic friends, like, okay, so you want there to be federal support for mass transit, for example, let's just take that, let's take a small program at the dot, mass transit. Well then if you want to preserve people's support for mass transit, then pick the routes that are most urgent for there to be mass transit. Pick the system. Don't build a light rail program like California out in the middle of nowhere that goes nowhere. Build it between, let's say Fort Worth and Dallas or build it between LA and San Diego and get that traffic on trains that are going from point A to point B or bus routes or whatever. But when you bloat the program and you have empty buses running around cities like Columbus or Chicago, that aggravates the voters. And then they want, they just like, then they demand the end of the entire subsidy. And so some subsidy is a good thing.
Norm Murdock [:Some subsidization of state programs by the federal government can be very productive and very good. But you throw out the baby with the bathwater when you just say, hey, I want it to be as big as possible and fund this thing to the point that there's waste and fraud. And that's what I mean, that's where the Democrats and the Republicans ought to be working together. And they used to. And it's like something has happened ever since, I don't know, Ronald Reagan or Nixon, I don't know, it's become so vicious in D.C. and I would like a ceasefire, yeah, I would like somebody to declare a ceasefire and quit exaggerating that the other person is Satan or Hitler or whatever. And let's, you know.
Brett Johnson [:Right. Well. And sadly that national scope of the RD's not getting along, not liking each other trickles down to the state level.
Norm Murdock [:Yes, it does.
Brett Johnson [:And we feel that here, because you hear the verbiage, you see that they're not getting along. It's ridiculous. And all that is an example is like, well, they're getting away with it. We're gonna do it down here.
Norm Murdock [:Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Brett Johnson [:And I don't know, could be down to a city, county level too. Don't know, you don't really see a lot of press on that. But boy, I think it's in Ohio.
Norm Murdock [:I agree with you. And, and a lot of times people oppose an idea just because it came from somebody on the other team. Right. And because it came out of the other team, it's a knee jerk reaction that, oh no, that's going nowhere. And you're like, well, is it A bad idea. No, it has some merit, but it came from them. And so because it's from them, it's not going anywhere.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah, that's utter. That's moronic.
Norm Murdock [:That's moronic.
Brett Johnson [:It is.
Norm Murdock [:That is the definition of being a moron.
Brett Johnson [:It is. It is that they have a great idea. Let's build it up, right? It probably won't be the same thing as it came out of that person's mouth, but at least let's take it somewhere, see where it can go.
Norm Murdock [:Well, let's talk a little Ohio news. And this is a great example because, Bill, what's the guy that came up with the idea that there has to be a performance aspect? Bill, He's a local.
Brett Johnson [:Bill Demora.
Norm Murdock [:Okay, Bill Demora. So Bill Demora is a very liberal Democrat, but he came up with a dynamite idea that I would encourage my Republican friends to jump all over this. So the state of Ohio wants to give the Cleveland Browns $600 million out of the state's unclaimed funds account. Okay. Because people haven't claimed that money. It's sitting there in the bank, if you will. Right, right. And they're saying, okay, nobody's come along for this money, so we'll spend it, we'll give it to the Browns.
Norm Murdock [:And Bill's idea is brilliant. He's like, if we give money to a pro team, a privately held team like the Browns, the Bengals, the Reds, the Guardians, whoever, the hockey team here in town, the Blue Jackets, whoever it is, if the state of Ohio is. Gives taxpayer dollars, those dollars are to be returned unless the team has a winning record on average over, I think, a three year period. He named a period three or five.
Brett Johnson [:Years or something like that.
Norm Murdock [:Yeah, whatever it is. But he's like, you know, if you don't have an incentive to perform right, why should we fund you?
Brett Johnson [:Right.
Norm Murdock [:And it's kind of like what we tell other private sector. Like when intel wanted money from the state of Ohio, we. We told intel you have to hire a certain number of Ohioans. Okay? So this is like, you know, a little bit of, you know, it's a term of the contract. You know, you want our money, then you've gotta show that you care about your record. And we saw what happened, say, with the Bengals and the Browns of, you know, like, if other than Joe Burrow and some really good years, you know, up there, a couple of good seasons with The Browns, those two teams have stunk for like 20, 25 years. Like, they've been awful. And it's clearly, because there's this profit sharing within the NFL that the owners of these teams more or less get paid beaucoup.
Norm Murdock [:Whether they win or lose. It doesn't seem to affect their bottom dollar, except maybe for souvenirs.
Brett Johnson [:And they're playing the Bengals and the Browns fans. They're playing them.
Norm Murdock [:They're playing us.
Brett Johnson [:You're playing them, basically. And they're playing our emotions that we don't want. Because then all of a sudden the Browns ownership's like, well, we'll move the Bengals ownership.
Norm Murdock [:And we saw that movie. Right. They moved to Baltimore. Right. And everybody in Ohio wigged out and demanded the NFL give the city of Cleveland a new Browns team. And they did do that.
Brett Johnson [:Right.
Norm Murdock [:So they're throttling us with this subtle threat that, well, if we don't get a new deluxe stadium every 10 or 15 or 20 years, then we're going to. Then we're out of here.
Brett Johnson [:And you know what? Go. Go. I mean, and again, I know if I were a pure Browns fan or I'm not a big NFL, I mean, I love watching NFL. I don't really have a team, but it's mostly, if it's an Ohio team, I'll back them in such. But you know what? Don't care. This is a.
Norm Murdock [:And why. And why. And why should he have to care? Right, Right. It's. It's just a sport.
Brett Johnson [:Exactly.
Norm Murdock [:And it's a privately owned team.
Brett Johnson [:Exactly. That's. That's the credit. And. And it's a stadium that serves maybe 10 games. It's not even a multipurpose stadium like a lot of them are, that they can do concerts. I mean, yes, you could probably do a concert in it, but I bet they won't. I bet it's like sacred ground that we don't.
Brett Johnson [:We don't touch this for anything, but for football.
Norm Murdock [:So here's the thing. I completely agree with Brett. We have a state that is cutting back on things like school transportation. We have schools with asbestos on their pipes.
Brett Johnson [:We have rural areas that don't have hospitals. We have rural areas within multiple county area.
Norm Murdock [:Yeah. And the roads.
Brett Johnson [:That's a really good point. We can't see to spend this unused money to help with fricking hospitals and medical in our rural areas. And we are. So we gotta help Appalachia areas such like that. But that money's been sitting in there for decades, and all of a sudden, oh, we could use it for football.
Norm Murdock [:There is a list at the Ohio Department of Transportation of decrepit bridges that you and I use every day that are ready to fall down, ready to fall apart. And we've seen in other states where bridges have actually collapsed with traffic on them, and yet we've got the largesse to support professional sports out of the taxpayer's pocket priorities.
Brett Johnson [:It really can't be justified, quite frankly. You can say, well, there's an infusion of cash. It's good for the economy.
Norm Murdock [:Again, we got homeless veterans, right?
Brett Johnson [:We have. It's six, eight to 10 home games a year. That's it. It's not even baseball numbers. No, not even baseball.
Norm Murdock [:And they black out. They black out the damn TV games in the home city because they gotta get on cable and extract more money out of the taxpayers.
Brett Johnson [:And I think it's on us to make phone calls and just say, no, you're gonna give it to em. Okay. Put strings to it. I think that ship has sailed.
Norm Murdock [:So Representative bill.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah, Bill DeMora.
Norm Murdock [:So he knows he can read the tea leaves, that they're going to get the money. And so what he's saying is, okay, if I get outvoted, you're going to give these people the money. At least make them work for it.
Brett Johnson [:Make them work for it.
Norm Murdock [:I'm with a Bill, listen, we probably agree on very little, but this is a brilliant idea.
Brett Johnson [:It is. And I think way he stated it, we'll get off the subject here in a second, but we're talking one game over 500. We're not talking win the Super Bowl.
Norm Murdock [:A winning season.
Brett Johnson [:A winning season. That's all it has to be. And I know it can be very difficult for the Browns and Mangles have a winning season. I know that. Exactly. But we're talking one game over 500. That's all we got to do. So rig the schedule maybe, or just maybe have some good coaching going on.
Brett Johnson [:Whatever your problem is, fix the problem anyway.
Norm Murdock [:Well, there was a Supreme Court, US Supreme Court decision, and it affects Ohio. So it's kind of Ohio and U.S. news because as you remember, we had this huge parole group of people. I think, gosh, I'm gonna screw this up. But I'm not sure if they were from Somalia or what country over in Springfield, Ohio. Okay. And it was a large group and, you know, they were mostly peaceful. And I know people in Springfield that are business people and they hired some of these people and they worked great and they were very reliable and all of that.
Norm Murdock [:But at the same time, they drove up apartment rental prices and there were a lot of accidents because they're not used to Driving in urban traffic. And so there were some issues, and then there was the funny meme about they're eating the animals and we don't need to get into that. But at any rate, under the new administration of Donald Trump, ICE has been trying to figure out ways to return because. Because a parole program is temporary. They were let in as a temporary measure under Biden. That was the legal nicety, if you will, of parole, is you're paroled into the US until such a time that we can deport you in a humanitarian way back to either your country or, as Trump is arguing under ice, a third party country that will take you. And so the Supreme Court got a case where people objected, the plaintiffs objected to the idea that you could deport somebody back to a different country other than their home country. And so, as you know, there's this prison in El Salvador where we have been exporting people and deporting people.
Norm Murdock [:Right. And Kristi Noem went down there and toured it and all that news cycle. At any rate, the Supreme Court said that is within the President's power and lifted the temporary restraining order blocking him from doing that. So that is a pretty epic decision that basically, if there's a country that's willing to take a refugee or a criminal, illegal, or whatever category you happen to fall in, if there is a country, whether it's Mexico or El Salvador or Nicaragua or wherever, that the people can go to that other country rather than their home country. So it just helps ICE in their mission of trying to reduce the number of illegals and unknowns that when they're found, that there is a way to get them out of the country and into a situation where they're accepted in another host country if necessary.
Brett Johnson [:So that other host country, is it a prison there that they're going to.
Norm Murdock [:Not necessarily, no. That's for somebody who's done something criminal other than cross the border.
Brett Johnson [:Are we. I don't. I'm not trying to pose this question as accusatory. I'm just trying to figure it out. So. So there's a country that accepts. Are we paying that country to take them in?
Norm Murdock [:In some cases? Sure.
Brett Johnson [:Okay.
Norm Murdock [:Yeah.
Brett Johnson [:I'm just curious. I don't know.
Norm Murdock [:I'm sure. I'm sure there is monetary reward to.
Brett Johnson [:Saying, hey, we don't want them here. They're good people. We just don't want them here because they didn't follow the rules. And they can put it that way.
Norm Murdock [:If they self deport, apparently, like somewhere around Brett, a half a million illegals and by that I don't mean criminals. I mean not criminals. That. Other than crossing the border, okay, that's the crime they committed, okay, that's a criminal offense. It's a felony, and they can be immediately turned back at the border. I get that. I'm talking about if they committed a criminal act after they came in. Okay.
Norm Murdock [:Those kinds of criminals, yes, they do go to some kind of detention system. Okay. In another country like that prison where that Maryland dad they keep calling him, but the guy who's really a human trafficker.
Brett Johnson [:Gotcha, gotcha.
Norm Murdock [:That Garcia guy.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah. Okay.
Norm Murdock [:Okay. So because he's a criminal, he goes to a foreign justice system facility. But if it's, you know, a Chinese lady, let's say, that flies into Mexico City, she gets a coyote, she goes over the border, and her intention is to just get US Citizenship at some point and she jumps the line. She hasn't applied for citizenship, she's just crossed the border. So she's committed no other criminal act other than crossing the border. If China, for example, would not take her back, but Taiwan would, or Vietnam would, or Cambodia would, or Korea or Japan would, this gives ICE the ability to deport her back to those other countries that might host her. And yeah, there could definitely be some foreign aid attached to that.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah, I'm just curious. It's all. Yeah, exactly.
Norm Murdock [:I could see Japan saying, no, don't send us people unless you send, you know, maybe 10,000 bucks to help us support this person for the first six months or something like that. I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure there's deals like that.
Brett Johnson [:I suppose so. Yeah. Not thought about at this moment. It's like, if I'm a country, why would I. Why would I do that? You know, why am I. It's the same. Same kind of reason why we want them out. Because of overpopulation or just whatever the case might be or some incentives allow in.
Brett Johnson [:So. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Norm Murdock [:And for some of these countries, they could view this as just a transit kind of situation. So if you deport somebody, say, and their whole family lives in Mexico, but Mexico says, no, we're not taking them back, and you send them to, say, Nicaragua. Right. That person, once they hit Nicaragua, they have no family. They're probably going to. Then go to Mexico.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah, right, right, exactly.
Norm Murdock [:Because that's where their support system is.
Brett Johnson [:Right, sure.
Norm Murdock [:So it's like a game. So.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah, sure, exactly.
Norm Murdock [:Another interesting thing that, again, it affects Ohio, but it's happening on the federal level is the EV mandate in the big beautiful bill is that is something that the House and the Senate evidently are not arguing about. So the EV mandate's going to be gone and what is that doing? So it's pretty interesting. Stellantis, which of course owns the Jeep plant in Toledo and other facilities in Ohio. Stellantis is bringing back the Ram 1500 Hemi, a pickup truck which they canceled, that was going to be an all electric truck. And now they're going to be once again making that model with a V8 Hemi engine in it. GM is expanding their V8 production in the Tonawanda plant. And Ford created this entire city in Chattanooga outside of Chattanooga, Tennessee called the Blue Oval City. And Blue Oval City was initially supposed to produce between half a million and a million EVs a year.
Norm Murdock [:And then they found out oh the only 2 or 3% of the American public is buying EVs. Retail customers, not fleet people, not like rental fleets or the GSA government fleets, but private individuals are only buying 2 to 3% of EVs and most of those are Teslas, the majority. So you know, Ford's going to have to do something like they made a major miscalculation, as did almost every American based manufacturer, oddly enough, except Toyota and Honda, which have not canceled their small gas vehicles. They have hybrids, but they also have straight up gas cars. Like you can buy a gas Camry, you can buy a gas Accord and they're selling like hotcakes.
Brett Johnson [:You know, talk about a difficult situation. You're a car manufacturer and you have regulations that you know that are in play and they may not come into play for years to come. So you are making plants to fulfill that new gas mileage that has to be or the EV mandate, whatever. And all of a sudden a new.
Norm Murdock [:Guy gets elected and it all goes to hell.
Brett Johnson [:It just does. Talk about that is one area that I did want to stay away from my career. Was anything that was government regulated that harsh? And that's one of them banking is. But that one certainly is a change of the wind. And all of a sudden it's changed more drastically here in the last couple of decades because of the electric vehicle.
Norm Murdock [:And battery back and back and forth. Oh my gosh, their chain is getting jerked.
Brett Johnson [:I feel bad for them. I mean, kind of, I mean, you know, but at the same time it's like did we really see a future in this 100% EV? I just, I didn't see it. To me. Well, and I'll give a funny example is I drive a Jeep and I'm seeing these Jeep EV Wrangler with EV on it. I'm going, that's a misnomer. Right. Or an EV Jeep.
Norm Murdock [:Really, it's crazy.
Brett Johnson [:You can't. I mean we're talking a trail rated off roaded vehicle and you're throwing ads on TV that, yeah, let's go, let's go. I mean, I think that's even what the phrase is, let's go. And it's ev. Yeah. You're gonna go about 50 miles on a terrain and that's about it.
Norm Murdock [:There are so many problems with the entire EV concept and it all starts with the government having its thumb on the table. So let's suppose you really have drunk the purple Kool Aid and you really believe Al Gore and you really believe the sky is falling. Let's suppose you believe all that. But you haven't looked deeper than the idea that like the Iranian regime change, any big social change, like going from gas to EVs ought to come up. Right. It ought to be market driven. Right. Just like overturning a regime or just like the election where Obama beat John McCain or, or just, you know, or Trump beat, you know, Hillary.
Norm Murdock [:You know, these are things that have to be done from the ground up.
Brett Johnson [:And it's interesting, I think instead of forced, I think Tesla thought about this but didn't get it done yet. Is you can, I think EV would work, electric vehicles would work. If you have the infrastructure that, you know, you can go anywhere and get charged up. Well, because those gas stations don't exist. We don't see them readily.
Norm Murdock [:No, no.
Brett Johnson [:You're concerned about buying an EV vehicle. It's like, okay, but where do I charge it?
Norm Murdock [:No, no. So fair enough, fair enough. Some of it under Biden they budgeted, the federal government was going to construct these recharging stations and 1,000 of them nationwide. The federal government was going to build these and fund them. And at the end of Biden's term, I think they got six of them done.
Brett Johnson [:Damn.
Norm Murdock [:Because there's all this zoning and all that not in my backyard and a million reasons why you can't build something. And this is a perfect example of private companies built gas stations like she, British Petroleum, Shell, you know, Texaco, you name it. You know, if there is demand. So I don't have any problem against the concept of EVs. I have the problem. I have a problem against the forcing by the government in the subsidization by the government of, you know, you get to take a credit on your tax return if you're one of the lucky people that can afford $100,000 Tesla. And, and you happen to be one of the first people in line with the IRS to get the credit. So there's a lot of inequities built into all of this.
Brett Johnson [:Plus, plus the fact they, they really haven't figured out the tax structure that you know, you're not eating up any gas so how are you paying for roads? Yeah, that hasn't been. Well, it has been because you get a, you get a surcharge on your, your, your registration, but which I don't know if it's too much, not enough, don't know. But I've, I've, I've been in a couple of car dealers. I know that the last two or three times that I've new car, I've heard stories of people walking away going, I didn't know I had to pay more on my registration every year. I'm not buying this vehicle. I mean it came right out of the sales reps. They didn't realize it, but it's not that much. But it's one of those last point of like, okay, no, I'm not.
Norm Murdock [:So my opinion is basically get the government out of the way, right? Let the market determine if somebody wants to get an electric vehicle, Bronco or whatever it is, or a Tesla model number three or whatever, they can go buy one and that's fine. I have no problem with that. Go buy an EV to your heart's content if it makes sense to you in your situation. Maybe you live in an urban area and you commute 50 miles. You come home, plug it in and you're a happy camper.
Brett Johnson [:That's a perfect scenario. That's fine, it really is.
Norm Murdock [:And maybe you're well heeled enough to buy an expensive one with all the goodies and that's fine too. But then there's the new high school graduate, the new college graduate, the single mom. There are people on the bottom end of the income bracket that maybe need to buy a car and they're not going to be able to afford a brand new ev, but they can slide into a Honda Accord, a gas Honda accord for maybe 30,000 or maybe even less.
Brett Johnson [:Used at 17. That's right, yeah, 15.
Norm Murdock [:I mean there's got to be choices. And if you don't have choices, you really don't have freedom.
Brett Johnson [:Right?
Norm Murdock [:I mean if you think about it.
Brett Johnson [:Exactly, exactly, exactly.
Norm Murdock [:Where are we on time here?
Brett Johnson [:Oh, we got a few minutes left.
Norm Murdock [:Well, let's talk. So there is this guy in New York City that just Cuomo just pulled out of the mare's race. And this guy is named Zoltan Madmani as best I can pronounce it.
Brett Johnson [:I think so too, sort of once.
Norm Murdock [:Yeah.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah.
Norm Murdock [:So hey listen, he's a flat out Bernie guy, you know, Bernie Breaux. And that's fine. New York. You know, you can elect Curtis Sliwa, who's the Republican guy. You can reelect Eric Adams, who's now an independent, or you can elect Zoltan Madmani. So Madmani has two of these things that just, I mean, just absolutely floored me. One is he believes that the government should run the grocery stores. Okay.
Norm Murdock [:That's one of his planks. So he wants New York City to gradually take over the grocery business. And there's nothing more New Yorky, Right. Than going to a deli or a produce stand or a fish market or something in New York.
Brett Johnson [:What aspects does he want to run? Wow, that's interesting.
Norm Murdock [:So his solution to the inflation, which is a real thing. Right. Prices in the grocery stores has gone up. Sure. But it's gone up for a variety of reasons which are complex and largely out of the control of grocery companies.
Brett Johnson [:And a delivery into New York City. I mean, come on, your prices are gonna be no matter what they are in New York, folks. Yeah.
Norm Murdock [:So Elizabeth Warren and many AOC and many of the more Bernie leaning Democrats have said that it is the fault of private sector greed at the grocery stores for why prices are high. And I think that is logically defeated with any kind of economic analysis of why prices are high. Okay. That's my opinion. I don't have a Thomas Sowell study. The Rand Corporation hasn't come out with a big study on this. But I think that's the case. And the idea that New York City or the state of New York could run grocery stores better than the private sector competing with each other for the same customer.
Norm Murdock [:Right. Like oh my milk is $2.59 a gallon, but the guy across the street is selling it for 199. So I'm going to match his price. That's how it works. That's how it works. That's how you get people to come in your store is by either meeting or beating the price across the street. It's called competition. And the government's not going to do this.
Norm Murdock [:Right. I mean it's going to be a disaster. And I don't even think he'll be able to even like it's not going to happen. But it shows his Mentality. The other plank, Brett and I were talking about this before the show, is he wants to keep the police by mayoral policy. He wants to keep the police out of high crime areas of the city. And instead, when there's a call, you send social workers instead of cops. And I'm like, I don't know if I'm getting carjacked.
Norm Murdock [:I'm not sure a social worker is going to talk the guy down off the ledge here, so to speak, from taking my car or taking the car with my baby in the backseat or whatever it is. I think I want to see a guy in blue with a badge helping me resolve this.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah. Because when you hear those situations, you mostly play that. Okay. It's probably a domestic violence situation or, you know, and those are one of the most out of the words of cops, One of the most dangerous because it's for cops to even walk into.
Norm Murdock [:Because it's emotional.
Brett Johnson [:It's emotional driven.
Norm Murdock [:Yeah.
Brett Johnson [:I could see, you know, a marriage of, you know, having a social worker come along with the cops. The cops settle the situation. The social worker stays in the car until it's cleaned up. Boom, come on up.
Norm Murdock [:Yeah, I get that. After it's safe. After it's safe.
Brett Johnson [:The cops don't necessarily want to. To play social worker. Not everybody has the mentality for it. They're not trained to do it. Let the cops diffuse the situation, know that it's safe. They're in their corners.
Norm Murdock [:Take the guns away. Exactly. Get everybody sitting on the sofa and say, okay, we've called children's services. They're on the way. We're going to stay here to make sure you don't murder each other or us.
Brett Johnson [:Right.
Norm Murdock [:You know.
Brett Johnson [:Right. Exactly. So, I mean, I could see a man. Boy, that's an extreme. That's an.
Norm Murdock [:I mean, it's unworkable.
Brett Johnson [:There are no. Social workers are going to do that. No, they're not going to go into one of the most dangerous areas of the city. Suicide, probably unarmed. Probably. I mean, that's a look. That's a great optic. A social worker carrying a gun.
Norm Murdock [:Right.
Brett Johnson [:Come on.
Norm Murdock [:Exactly. Jeez.
Brett Johnson [:Crime and. Oh, my gosh.
Norm Murdock [:Yeah. I mean, completely unfeasible. Completely. You know, just.
Brett Johnson [:No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Norm Murdock [:It's a fantasy to think that that would work.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah, exactly. Yeah. There's a headline I just caught yesterday that the New York Times threw out, and again, it's. That be wary. What headline? Not necessarily the source, just the headlines. And I caught the opposite of this story in A comment in the thread. So it was the Trump. The headline is Trump administration to end protections for 58 million acres of national forest because they're going to start running roads in.
Brett Johnson [:Okay, what it actually was that Secretary Rollins rescinds roadless rule eliminating impediment to responsible forest management so we can stop forest fires and protect acreage. We don't have these Canadian wildfires going on. It's like people read the headlines, but go a little bit deeper. You might want to actually go to the press release that the agency they're talking about. And again, it's nothing against New York Times, it just this extreme twisting of headlines that everybody does take a moment, take a breath, really read what was put out there.
Norm Murdock [:And you know, one of the fact finding things with the LA fires, you know, why certain parts of Malibu seem to be burning like every 10 years. All of the juniper trees or whatever the hell they have out there, the eucalyptus trees, suddenly somebody throws a cigarette butt or a homeless person's having a campfire and all of a sudden half a Malibu's on fire is because it's not being managed. The forest and the weeds and the undergrowth, you gotta do that stuff or else nature will take its course. A lightning strike in the forest, even if it's.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah, by nature, by the hand of God, it'll burn.
Norm Murdock [:And you gotta manage your forest or else, you know that you just have. People will die. And they did die, they did. In some of those fires in California and Canada you have people trapped and they die and firefighters die. It's terrible. And you gotta manage that. Either that or you're irresponsible.
Brett Johnson [:Right. I think so too. I think so too. And one thing doesn't lead to another. Just because put roads in there doesn't mean it's gonna be developed up. It's still protected land, you know, because, you know, the initial headline caught my eye. What's going on here? It's like, oh, okay, this is actually probably a good thing. More than likely, that sort of thing.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah, exactly. Want to go over our good and bad or you get one more thing you want to tell us?
Norm Murdock [:Yeah, so I'll do my winners and you know, and my sad thing of the week. So sad thing we did Brian Wilson last, last week we talked about, you know, and there was that funny song, you know that people. Several years ago during the hostage crisis under President Carter, people took the Brian Wilson song Barbara Ann and they made it bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb. Brian's. You know, I thought of Brian again, but no. Bobby Sherman died yesterday. And he was kind of one of those, like, you know.
Brett Johnson [:He was on the COVID of a ton of pop magazines, wasn't he?
Norm Murdock [:Like Tiger Beat.
Brett Johnson [:Tiger Beat.
Norm Murdock [:That was it for the girls. And he was, you know, he was kind of like, you know, one of those heartthrob guys. Julie, Julie, Julie, do you love me? And little woman? And I'm into something good and unknown to me until I looked into him, his obituary. He worked for the LAPD for like 10 or 15 years and retired as a captain with the LAPD. So, you know, he was born in 1943, the same year as another epic music icon died or was born was Sly stone back on June 9th. So this month we lost him, Brian Wilson and Bobby Sherman. And before that, you know, our own guy, Rick from Ohio, real name Rick Zieringer. Yeah, Rick.
Norm Murdock [:Rock and roll. Hoochie coo, hoochie coo.
Brett Johnson [:Rick Derringer. Exactly.
Norm Murdock [:Rick Derringer. So Sly Stone. Everyday people Hot fun in the summertime I want to take you higher Family affair Dance to the music I mean, this Sly and the Family Stone were awesome. And really, in some of their songs like Family Affair, if you know the lyrics to that deeply intelligent music, the lyrics were not always about happy stuff. And like, he. He was nitty gritty. He was a real dude. So.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah, yeah. And not a lesser known, but Mick Ralphs, who is a guitarist for Bad Company and Ma the Hoople, he passed away as well too. And I bring this up because Bad Company will be inducted into the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.
Norm Murdock [:Nice.
Brett Johnson [:He passed away before he could see that record.
Norm Murdock [:Is Paul Rogers still with us? The same. The lead singer, I think he is.
Brett Johnson [:Might be. I'm not sure.
Norm Murdock [:I'm not sure.
Brett Johnson [:But I just heard that connection in an interview yesterday. I'm going, like, talk about timing. I mean, the dude is 80. And that's one band you would think would be already be in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. It'd be Bad Company. And there's a lot of bands that. And then there are a lot of people that are in there kind of going. They're in there.
Norm Murdock [:Like when they inducted. When they inducted Van Halen, they inducted the David Lee Roth version. And I'm like, well, what about Sammy Hagar, man? What's the deal?
Brett Johnson [:Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Norm Murdock [:By the way, speaking as an Ohioan, those doggone ceremonies should not be in New York. And Elle, they need to be in Cleveland. That's where the hall is. Cleveland's a great town. It's a great convention town.
Brett Johnson [:They can pull it off.
Norm Murdock [:Come on, man. You should be doing it in Cleveland.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah, that's ridiculous. That's kind of a poke in the eye, quite frankly.
Norm Murdock [:So my winners of the week. I'll just real quick.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah.
Norm Murdock [:The B2 crews that went from Missouri all the way to Iran, dropped the ordinance on these nuclear bomb facilities and then got home. And the submarine that launched the 30 Tomahawks, those crews, those men and women of the Air force and the U.S. navy. Hey, you're the winners of the week, man. You guys got it done. And hopefully the world is a safer place even if Iran tries to rebuild. You set them back years. And so.
Norm Murdock [:Thank you.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah, exactly. Yeah. A win this week. We've all been touched by Alzheimer's, and I just caught the story this week. There's a new blood test for Alzheimer's that is 95% accurate at detecting people with early symptoms.
Norm Murdock [:Wow.
Brett Johnson [:That's huge.
Norm Murdock [:That's huge.
Brett Johnson [:That is huge.
Norm Murdock [:And there are treatments I hear coming.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah. So that is. You know, every family's been touched by Alzheimer's. Everybody. And that is an ugly, ugly ending. It just truly, truly is because as we all know, it turns a person into something, someone. It's not something. Excuse me.
Brett Johnson [:Someone that doesn't know they're unrecognizable to us. You just don't have that relationship anymore. Well, if we can get close to that. I just saw them going, that's great. I mean, we got. We got to get close to that. I think that's a win. And, boy, let's.
Brett Johnson [:Let's roll with it. Let's get it done. Let's get it done.
Norm Murdock [:And if you can do, you know, so dooku or take a drug or undergo some kind of therapy. Hey. Earlier the better.
Brett Johnson [:Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Cool. Well, good. That does it for this week. Thank you for joining us. Thanks to Harper, cpa. Plus, the triumphant the three amigos should be back next week, I'm assuming.
Norm Murdock [:Knock on wood.
Brett Johnson [:Knock on wood. Summer will probably settle things down a little bit for us, but work calls and vacation calls, everybody understands that. So thanks for joining us. It's common sense, Ohio, right from the middle until now.
