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Roman Mironov on Being Version 2.0 of Yourself
Episode 24 • 4th February 2021 • Podcaster Stories • Danny Brown
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This week, I sit down with Roman Mironov of Be Version 2.0 of Yourself, a show that helps people create amazing and enviable relationships, and be a better you.

On his podcast, Roman shares advice to and from people making a personal journey, as well as why our minds are synced the way they are, and how we can improve that.

Topics up for discussion this week include:

  • how his podcast originated as a marketing channel for him
  • why he is very specific about the type of guests he has on his show
  • why he had to skip an episode when his guest went too far off topic
  • how a communications coach gave Roman some of the best advice he's had
  • how his episode about eating one meal a day is his most popular
  • why he looks at his lifestyle as an ongoing experiment
  • why he fasts for 22 hours and eats for the two hours in-between
  • why he really wanted to move to North America, but didn't account for the severe loneliness
  • how the Covid pandemic and lockdown has made him extremely grateful
  • how personal pain helps him connect more closely with clients
  • why personal resilience is key when it comes to dealing with pain
  • why he's given up masturbation
  • why associating pleasure with pornography is so dangerous
  • why Arnold Schwarzenegger is such an inspiration to him
  • why we all have the potential to be great at what we want to do

Join me for a wide-ranging chat on life, loneliness, pain, shame, and being the best version of ourselves.

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You know, you see masturbation in it, of itself. It

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oftentimes is not a real problem. The problem is that

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when you rewire your brain to associate sexual pleasure with

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poor and mess, and in your hand, rather than normal

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sex, Andy, because many people start to have this started

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this habit in the teenage years, it becomes so ingrained

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that it's so difficult to get it out of their

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head for later. So I always encourage parents to have

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this conversation about masturbation as, as early as well.

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Hi, and welcome to Podcaster Stories each episode, we will

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have a conversation with podcasters from across the globe and

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share their story. What motivates them by the start to

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the show are the crucial And More will also talk

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about their personal lives and some of the things that

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have happened, I've made them the person you are today.

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And now here's your host. Danny Brown hi, and welcome

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to Podcaster. Stories where we meet the people behind the

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voices of the shows we're listened to this week. I,

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in China with Roman Mironov host of the Be Version

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2.01 of Yourself a show that helps people create amazing

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and enviable relationships and be a better you Roman welcome

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to the show. We were just chatting. They are a

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lot about, you've been to Toronto, so not too far

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from me.

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So well, how about you introduced yourself and your podcast?

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Hi, Danny, first of all, thank you so much for

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having me. It's a pleasure and a privilege, and I

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am in a relationship coach and the life coach working

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from Toronto. I, in general, I help my clients build

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better lifestyle, a healthier lifestyle, a happier lifestyle. And my

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podcast has also about that is, as you said, is

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to be version 2.0 of Yourself and it's all about

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great relationships and being kind to yourself and being a

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real the best. What do you can be?

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I know you had mentioned there that you help your

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clients be a better for them, and that comes through

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in a healthy, eating healthier live and et cetera. And

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I know you're also a big believer in end up

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yourself with your own journey and your own health journey,

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which will obviously talk about it as the show goes

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on. But how did you come up with the idea

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for the podcast itself? Was it natural progression from your

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coach at work or is that added on to it

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as a value on it?

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For sure. I started the podcast and in order to

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market myself using it as a marketing channel. So I

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basically started growing as a coach taking my training, starting

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work for the, my clients. And in parallel I was,

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I started the podcast. So they, they sort of compliment

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each other because I use the ideas from my coaching

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and the examples from my coaching and the podcast. And

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the idea is that come up when I, you know,

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record my, my, my show, I actually then write them

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down and use them in my coaching sessions, all that,

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because

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I was gonna ask you about that because obviously, you

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know, you have a podcast started in the summer of

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2019, July, 2019 was the first episode. And originally it

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was just you and then the pot that are on

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the show, but recently you've been bringing on more guests

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to, to discuss their lives and to discuss their healthy

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habits. So what's the process of the site in which

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guests come on and how that sort of, he eats

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and to our, our, our flows over to you or

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your business life, so to speak.

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Okay. So first of all, I decided on the topic

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that I wanted to cover it in to one of

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the next episode, then I look For for a person

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who is ready to talk about that episode. And especially

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that this is a little bit difficult because actually I

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want to go into, into specifics and I don't, I

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don't want to just chat about general stuff. I want

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to be very, very, like pick up one thing. I

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like being very good in your communication over, you know,

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different online channels. And I want us, I want the

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conversation to focus on that. And the problem is that

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actually made it guests.

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They want to focus either on themselves or on something

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that they're is selling or just a general topics. So

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this, this makes it challenging a little bit. Right.

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And, and obviously you, you, as you mentioned, you have

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come up with a Topics, have you ever had to

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like, not publish a show because of the guests has

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veered off of it that much to try something of

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a background as a promotional stuff, or is that everybody

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has been pretty good to get to go on that

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Beautiful question because he has, I have that kind of

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experience with, with the one gas, because I tried to

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keep her, I may maybe even to guests, I think,

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I think the, the, the first one is, it was

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just completely the WWE, like when she kept going back

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to her, like to her products or services, and it

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just did not, did not offer much value. Yeah, that's

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true. And the, and the second one, I think, should

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I try to keep her on the topic, but she

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was, she was, you know, going to Gen things about

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her or a failed marriage.

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So it, it didn't, I, and I wanted to keep

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talking about a breakup, like going over the break up

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specifically, but she was just, you know, to all over

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the place. And I appreciate it that, but I mean,

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I want to deliver value to my audience and I

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didn't feel that I could do that with her, with

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the interview that were recorded or not. I, I D

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I don't want to be, I don't want to come

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across as a disrespectful, but I'm, I'm all about the

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value. And I say it in a high, a high

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quality of content, rather than Josie, you know, recording one

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or two hours of Gen stuff that no one wants

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to listen to it.

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All right.

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And, and I think honestly, because of your type of

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shoe as well, that the value has to be there

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for your listeners, because it's an in their relationships in

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their health and they, or their life. So if someone

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is giving the wrong advice or just push an agenda

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for want of a better word that fits into their

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own promotional stuff, that's not going to be equitable in,

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you know, lead to damage and the results for your

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listeners, I guess.

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Mmm. Well, sometimes maybe, you know, people come, people do

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come off as guests with generally a positive messages and

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they are offering great. CA, I really good advice. The

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problem is that it is not a real specific to

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specific enough for my show or four, the topic that

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I wanted to discuss, that's it, it's, it's really about

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just, you know, being, being too general and not being

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too specific, not being too practical.

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You know, obviously now that you've got guests, there will

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be bringing in a, a lot of additional information and

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experiences that you've been sharing as well, you know, from

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your own life and from your earlier types of the

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podcast, what what's been some of the things that maybe

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you've learnt from your guests that you've taken and to

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your own life and, and, and improved, or in an

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area, or to change something because of something that your

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guest's brought up. I think

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I like one of my recent episodes with a coach

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or a communication coach as well. It should talk to

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me a lot. What are the things that should I

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talk to me is to actually be on the video

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when, when you communicate with anyone online, if it can

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be on the video or do it because of the

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video ads too, the communication so much more, because it

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introduces all those nonverbal communication pieces that we miss when

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we just talk over a voice, however, however, don't let

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the things stop you like, or don't over commit to

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VTO to the point where you say, okay, I don't

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have, like, I don't have 30 minutes to go all

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in on a full video call.

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So I won't do it at all. Now, if you

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have five minutes and you want to do just an

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audio call, do it, lets us do it. And also

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one, one a good piece of advice she gave was

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What that he actually needed to be more expressive, fun

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with the line of communication, because we tend to be

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more robotic, more reserved when we talk online versus offline.

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So we need to remember about this and it really,

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really put in more effort than just, just be more

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expressive, smile, more, make more gestures, just, yeah,

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No, I like that advice as well. Obviously we are

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recording. We have SquadCast at the moment. And one of

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the reasons I like that, it it's got to the

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screen room that we were using, where it's a video

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option we don't use. And a video of it will

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be an audio show obviously, but the video option is

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here. And to your point, they just seeing someone's I

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reaction because then you think you can tell, as you

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mentioned, we miss that nuance there. Oops. I may have

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said something there that it's actually insulted my guests without

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realizing it. Or you get just a more dynamic interaction

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between people, I think. Exactly. Yeah. It's,

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It's the right of word interaction. It really is. It

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triggers a, it, it, it helps you be more emotional

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and then the other person reads this off you are.

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And also it becomes a more emotional and that just

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increases the intensity of communication makes it, it makes it

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more fun.

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So if I do, you know, your show has been

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gone for about a year and a half now. So

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July, we are mostly going to have to think, have

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there been any episodes that have stood out in particular

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for you and if so, why that episode or are

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these episodes?

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It's my most popular episode, about 81 meal a day,

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way more people listen to it and to watch it

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on, even watching it on a YouTube. I mean, I

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put it on as a YouTube video right now. I

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think it was like 1300 people watched it, which is

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like really insane for at least for my show

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That was going to ask you about that. 'cause one

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of the things that you've done as you've, you've had

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a complete change of lifestyle from your earlier years where

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you are, you have changed up your eating habits, your

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healthy and live and habits. And you'd mentioned just know

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that you have one meal a day, which is you

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can fall in a keto diet. Is, is that correct?

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Or did you snuck as well? Or are you, how

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did you know a snack? Is it just the one

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meal? And then you've just missed snacks all together because

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I had really missed snacks. I'm just curious though, if

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it's a stricter regime, if any of your life,

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Absolutely. No snacks, only water, that's it just water. It

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won't be,

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If you decide to take that, was it a health

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issue or did you just look at how you were

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eating and living that you decided to change or how

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long

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A, you know, Danny, first of all, I look at

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this as an experiment. So I've been taking this experiment

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for more than a year. I felt good about it.

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And maybe I will change my mind. I don't know.

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I don't know. There are like pros and cons for

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me, the best thing is that it lets me compartmentalize

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my life. So I started with in the first part

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of my day, I work that the second part of

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my day is I exercise. And the third part of

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my days rest where I actually have my meal. This

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is this one meal. So it helps me like really,

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really be effective. And it's not really affect that made

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me be efficient. See, because I didn't want to break

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my first part of my day, which his work by

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Niels for me, this is the biggest benefits.

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And they also say there are health benefits to it.

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And I, I think those benefits are pretty valid. And

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one of them was that actually you managed your insulin

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better because the fewer times that you need you're in

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the date and the less often are you releasing insulin

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and insulin, his bad for you. And is it,

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So is that it's so the one meter that you

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have is that like a larger meal to account for

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that, and then the non or other meals of your

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Lake, or does it sort of still a standard set

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aside?

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No, of course it's larger because I, I need to

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get the Keller's in right day to, and I know

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A lot of people, I'm not sure that you've tried

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it now. I know a lot of people are doing

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intermittent fasting. So I guess that's kind of similar to,

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to your point, or is it a little bit different?

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Exactly. It is an intermittent fasting. So my, my protocol

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is 22 hours of fasting and about two hours of

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eating some of these 20, 22 to two, whereas a

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lot of people, they stick to this 16 to eight

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protocol.

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All right. And that's 16 hours of a, like a

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week's time, eight hours of downtime. When you first start,

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I fully got that wrong. That's a different one, right?

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16, eight,

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Six to 80. Yeah. It was just like this. So

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let's say you start eating at 10:00 AM and you

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finish eating at 6:00 PM, right? That's eight hours that

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eating window, his eight hours and the remaining window was

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16 hours. It was when you were a rest from

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food.

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No, you get your podcasts. That's about as, as you

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mentioned earlier, helping people on their personal journey and whatever

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that looks like, and this is the same for your

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coaching, but it's a, their health or their business goals

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are the goals, et cetera, but your own journey as

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being quite an up and up and down. One I

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got, I guess over the last few years, you mentioned

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that you got divorced in 2014 and then you moved

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to, like, you made a big move from a country

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where you were living to Canada five years later. So

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I guess in 2019, you, you came to Canada. How

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much of a change was all of that? And, and

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how much of an impact did that make in your

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life at that time?

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Okay. So I always wanted to live in North America.

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So when I had this wonderful chance to come to

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Canada, I used it. I used it. And you know,

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my experience here in Toronto, it has been, is different,

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is different. So first of all, a like a lot

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of things. So I used to live in Russia and

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Russia. He's basically a third world country. So here in

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Toronto, I get all of these benefits, like a great

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legal system, safety, secure investments, Now cleverness organization, which we

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don't usually have it in Russia, but at the same

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time, I feel lonely.

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I feel a little bit, and I actually feel nostalgia.

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I miss my, I miss my family. I miss my

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son, especially who is, who is they're back in Russia

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or with my ex-wife. So I always wanted to come

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to come to a country like Canada or us to

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live here, but I did not. I never realized how

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lonely would feel and how difficult it is to do

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that at 36. And, and now I had a third

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38.

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All right. And obviously, I mean, the, the pandemic at

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the moment, you can't help either because that really limits

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our interactions physically with people as well. I mean, obviously

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we can make up a zoom call or whatever, but

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you can, you mentioned out at about the, the, the

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video interaction that we're having and you have with clients,

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it's we need that physical visual touch. So how so,

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how has the pandemic pantry, and, you know, you know,

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I guess over the last year,

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I'm going to work from home, which is, which is

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fine by me, by the way, because this is a

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very efficient, I actually, I tried doing in summer the

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summer, I worked with a client here in Toronto, we're

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doing, you know, just like walk-in sessions. And they turned

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out that is, this is not really helpful. And my

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coach, and because I can really focus on, I just

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don't know how to get distracted by all of the

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things. And I were can't really do practice as like

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visualization or a meditation. So, I actual, I'm sort of

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thankful two Covid in this sense, which it doesn't mean

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I like it.

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Yeah. And I, I feel bored. I'm a little bit

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of stay at home field or feeling lonely, but compared

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to, to my clients, and then we talk about this

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all the time. They go it with them, they feel

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much, much worse. So I feel that even though we

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know it is, it has lowly, it just stayed at

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home. I was still, you know, I'm grateful that it's

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not that bad for me as For, I don't feel

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that bad as some other people do.

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And I. And I'm guessing because of your own journey

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as well, with the divorce and you come into Canada

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and, and, and, and build in your life here while

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it's, you know, your you're not surrounded by you're family.

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That must be helpful for that, the culture and that

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you do in an offer and people are in similar

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situations and help them overcome it too. Do you find

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that you're, or you're also learning and get in help

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for the poor description? So there is a better word

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than that, obviously, but when you're, when you're working with

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your clients and they are sharing their story and you're

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helping them make the changes, do you find that almost

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a therapeutic for you as you continue to go through

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your door and change?

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Absolutely. There's such a, such a good observation. Danny because

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I really feel that the, this pain that I feel

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from loneliness and really just any paid and even paying

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that ice subject myself to like hypoxia or exposure to

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cold showers, this helps me connect to my clients, understand

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them better. Because if, if, if like everything was perfect

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in my life, I wouldn't be just in a very

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different place. And it would be difficult for me to

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understand that that's one thing. And another thing that I

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appreciate about this, let's say, be the lowland, those other,

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you know, ways to inflict pain on myself is that

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I built psychological resilience.

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It, it really helps because down the road, things, we

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will not go with the way that I want them

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to go. And let's say Gen, but like, just, just

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think about family. You you, the members of your family,

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they eventually die. Right. And when I look at this,

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even though this, this time it was difficult for me

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while I'm away, it helps me realize that at some

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point in my life, they will pass. That's a way,

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and I will not be able to do, to be

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with them just like now. So it just makes me

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stronger. And of course it makes me appreciate them so

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much more while they're here.

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And I think that's, that's like a real important distinction.

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As you mentioned, I know a lot of people through

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the pandemic, I'm kind of sad. It makes us realize

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it exactly what we've gotten, what we could lose. 'cause,

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you know, a life can be snuffed out immediately You

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know, and you will never get a chance to you

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see all these horror stories of people not being allowed,

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their loved ones that have to say goodbye. It they're

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at the hospital was in the us, you know? So,

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so, so to your point, I think it's, it's a

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really important to, to be aware of exactly what could

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happen and, and how we can prepare ourselves, you know,

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for that.

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Exactly, exactly. And that's actually a very good example that

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you gave about not being able to see your loved

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ones. Let's say I have, I have a coach and

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client here in Toronto, and she has a sister, an

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older sister who is, who is sick right now. And

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she is in a very bad shape, really in a

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very bad shape. And my clients can not see her

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just because of this long down restrictions. And she feels

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so, so sorry about that.

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Yeah. So I know that obviously the vaccines or starting

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to the roll out across the globe and, and hopefully,

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and some form of normality will come back or whatever

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that looks like post COVID, because as soon as you

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mentioned is having a horrible affect on it. A lot

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of people are in a lot of, you know, ways

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of life, I guess, one of the things that, that,

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that made me smile to when I was chatting with

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you, I'm pretty sure. And we were just going back

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and forth on email. You had mentioned that you've given

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up masturbation know I was that an off-the-cuff remark where

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you're just like, be in that as a funder Mark

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or what have you given it masturbation? And if so,

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what was the, the sort of your thinking behind that?

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Is that tied into your, your lifestyle now or something

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different?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. You mentioned that because this is an actual one

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of my biggest specializations as a coach, too, because I,

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I went through that experience almost seven years ago. I

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like, I know how to do it, and I can

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show my clients how to do it. And, and there

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isn't, I gave it up because it really was holding

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me back. And I was at a lot of time

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at a lot of energy and how it was, felt

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shamed have to wear. I masturbated, especially because I was

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married. So I kept masturbating through my marriage and it

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was really, really, really, really shameful for me. I could

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not like, yeah, I, I could get a quick escape

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from feeling bored by masturbating, but there was just like

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a couple, a couple of minutes of feeling good and

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then hours or feeling bad about myself.

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I was really feeling that I was still in the

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time from my ex wife and my little son. So

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that, that was my big reason.

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Know, you mentioned that you felt shame because you were

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married, obviously, so maybe you felt like I have a

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life they don't need to master a bit. Does that,

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do it, did the shame, is that come from like

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my PA your upbringing, or is that just something that

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you've felt through the, the action of, through the, the,

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the sort of your environment you were end at the

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time? And yeah,

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I will say it's a, it, it came from my

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upbringing in my high standards, my wanting to be consistent

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with my identity, have a person with integrity. So it,

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it never, it never really felt really, really, really never,

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always, maybe may be in my teenage years, it didn't

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feel right because I, I didn't like the fact that

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I was hiding and then over the years to just

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get, you know, exacerbate it because, you know, and now

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I have this wife and his son, and I was

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supposed to be a role model for, for my son.

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And I masturbating again, hiding So I I guess.

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So I was just, it was all about my integrity.

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Right.

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I wonder if that, so, because, because we don't feel

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like our conversation, I've got two young kids are out

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of town in it, and my wife and I always

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try to balance the conversation as I get older and

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still, K what are we going to talk about it

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now? And you can see their, their change in emotions

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and, and maturity, if you like. And, and one of

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the things we were always on a par, I know

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when I was growing up, my, my grandparents and my

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parents were always very secretive about you. Shouldn't be doing

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now, you know, you know, God all look down on

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you and I are in a bad way of You

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or whatever. And I was wondering, as, you know, people

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have moved forward on generations of move forward and, you

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know, its people don't have the HEID being a homosexual

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for example, are, you know, be in a so-called different

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from what's classic as a norm.

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I wonder if as, as, as more people don't see

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something as secretive and encourage it, if, if, if it

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might make it more acceptable, I don't know what your

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thoughts are on that.

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Yeah. You know, when it comes to masturbation, I think

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that people are still pretty, pretty secretive about it. They

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don't want, they don't want to talk about it with

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their kids. They don't want to talk about, we talk

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about it with other people, including coaches. So let's say

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that's why quite, just, just, you know, basically a handful

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of people that feel, find the strength in themselves to

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reach out to someone for help about masturbation. And this

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is this the right thing to do. Definitely because oftentimes

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it as a problem, maybe not, not the masturbation. So

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usually watching pornography, if it can be a problem.

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And, and where that leads to,

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Obviously I had, there was that big story, I guess

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it's a bit of the last month or maybe a

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December. So one of the biggest ones is porn hump.

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And that's based in Canada of all places and its

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in Quebec. Umm, and they got like the government got

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involved in like a, a boat 70 or 80% of

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their content got pulled down because it was underage teens.

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It was, you know, it was very specific category. So

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as you mention it, that's a huge issue from a

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legal point of view and not ranching on everything else.

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So yeah, it, it's definitely a, I can see like

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pornography is as can be like a huge issue is

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like sex trafficking or et cetera.

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Exactly. It's like just a, as a father who has

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a 10 and eight year old kids or are they

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assigned?

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No and our daughter is eight year old.

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Okay. Yeah. So like, just think about thinking about the

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boy, who would you would you want him to, you

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know, be like stayed in his room and watching porn

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and masturbating and hiding this and then, you know, wasting

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the time and his potential on this. What would you,

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would you want him to do that? I guess not

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right.

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Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, you bet at the moment we

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are good. We're good. In the helix to play video

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games, we have myself and my daughter said, we've got

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this little Tim thing going on. And so that's good

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that keeps them occupied here. But yeah, he's so nice.

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Tanny, you'll be a living in me, what you see

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in each others are fast approach and so maybe it

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will be here and we'll that maybe that'll be a

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new challenge.

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Yeah. Yeah. I challenge you to have this conversation with

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him, sit down with him and without shaming, just, just

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really explaining the perils of masturbation is a special report.

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You know, if you see masturbation in of itself, it

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oftentimes is, is it's not really a problem. The problem

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is that when you rewire your brain to associate sexual

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pleasure with poor and mess any of your hands, rather

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than normal sex, Andy, because many people start to have

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this and start this habit in teenage years, it becomes

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so ingrained that it's so difficult to get it out

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of their head later.

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So I always encourage parents to have this conversation about

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masturbation as, as early as possible. So

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I know that's for sure that that would be a

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bit like maybe I'll send them to Toronto for a

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couple of coaching sessions. I will get them on the

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zoom I was in line with, you know, we had

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mentioned that you should get it launched in July of

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2019 and it is it's how many episodes are, you

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know?

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Okay. How about 40, 40 of them?

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Yep. So it was, so what are your goals for

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the future? You have just started introducing more guests to

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the show, a alongside your own staff, what's your goal

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or are you changing it for a month? Maybe doing

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more video. And then she mentioned earlier on or

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At it at this point. My main goal is to

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focus on, on masturbation and porn. So maybe the next

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down to episodes, I want to really, really focus on

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that because this has like the, the, the bulk of

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my work. And I really want to do find to

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find a niche and my marketing weight, because I say

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that I'm a relationship coach and it just, you know,

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that's, that's too broad for me. I have been trying

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with this, with this specific topic for an masturbation and

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it showed me some pretty good results. So I'm happy

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about those results. I appreciate them. And I think I

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need to develop more in this area.

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Okay.

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Okay. And obviously, you know, you'll be having guests on

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too soon to like share their experiences. And what would

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you be able to see a lot of clients on

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that you've helped with this? Or would you be keeping

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that separate? And there are privacy, is it separate, I

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guess are kind of

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For a separate, of course my clients, they, they reached

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out to me, but they are very, very secretive about,

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about this habit of basically like if I think about

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all of my clients now, I think there was just

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one person who told about this to anyone else beside

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me. So I actually feel very honored for a while.

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And I talk to my class because they are, I

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am the only person they let know about their problem.

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You've obviously got, get up an interest in background and

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with different experiences, with different people and you meet a

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lot of different people through your client work and through

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your podcast, if you had to name one passion that

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would be C your all time inspiration, you're all the

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time hero. Who would that be and why that person?

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Hmm. I think that there are a lot of people

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who inspire me, but just the one that comes to

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mind right now, for some reason it is, are on

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it just because I was writing his biography of with

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my son a yesterday Over over WhatsApp, but any way

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that's Arnold Schwartzenegger K is first of all, he has

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such a great influence on me because I grew up

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on his movies back in the back in the nineties,

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even though I was in Russia, they were translated. So

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he was, yeah, he was a role model for me

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when I started to work out, when I started to

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build muscle and strength. And since then, he has also

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become a role model for me in many other areas,

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including the achievement motivation, just, I mean, let's say for

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example, one of his principles is that to get good

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at something you need to do a lot of repetitions.

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Like you do reps at the gym, the same thing

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with when it comes to my mastery in any of

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the areas of your life. I like his policy. I

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like his strategy about investments. He always, he always sad

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that you need to invest all the time and you

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need to, let's say never, never buy a house. Your

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first house don't buy it to live in it. If

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you buy a house, buy it as an investment. Yep.

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So he w was also a very frugal. I resonate

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for that a lot. I live in a minimalist lifestyle.

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I do my best too, you know, to cover my

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expenses. So this is an another, lets say he always

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cooked.

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He has his own food. And when he, he did

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not a, he didn't had a, any luxury As things

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or ways to spend time when he was young, but

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what he would do if he would just, but when

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he came to do the United States from Australia, he

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would just take his girlfriend to the beach and they

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will just hang out there for a very cheap and

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very effective,

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Good for the half. I mean the outside of fresh

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air at the beach, the seat, they have their fingers.

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Perfect. Right. There we go. And I remember watching the,

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the documentary I'm back when I was a kid put

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all the back in the UK on when I was

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by my town of 12, I can remember what it

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was that it was called. It was the, or something

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Irin documentary, but it was pumping, pumping iron. That's it.

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Thank you. So he was going through the, the, the

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readiness for the show. And I think if I recall

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Luther Cigna was also in the documentary along with some

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other bodybuilders at the time. And it was interesting to

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see how they both got into act in afterwards. And

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they, they, they had to sort of a similar career

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path, you know, obviously Lou Ferrigno was the hog corn

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and for him for Narnia and then a Terminator and

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all of that.

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So it's an interesting to see how these, these like

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the, the bodybuilders to us and to the, the, the

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movie industry at all, but at the same time.

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Exactly, exactly. And that's another, another thing I like about

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Arnold Schwartzenegger because he actually made this, you know, there

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are difficult shift in his career, right? So he used

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to be a bodybuilder. He has to be an athlete.

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And then he became a great actor, which, I mean,

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I guess what I'm saying is that old people have

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this potential. They have potential to be, to be great.

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And basically whatever they like to do. But so many

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people, they just wander that potential. Maybe they, they get,

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they just get good at something in their life and

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they stay there, even if it gets stale.

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And let's say the interest in industry that they're in,

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like, you know, dies off, but they still stay there.

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Yeah.

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I, I know like a sports and a guy who

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was always, which is why are you going into politics?

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But it was always in the big America of the

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great American dream by immigrant comes in to the country

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and gets to the highest position of the land. So

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it be an amazing story. And I was like, he

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was very vocal when Trump was in power, like the

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videos that are shared and the, you know, the, the,

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the movements he held back, et cetera. It's interesting to

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watch a move from his movie star, going to a

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career and to this, you know, serious politician, it's really

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pushing back against what Trump's stood for, what that kind

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of presidency stood for it.

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Yes, exactly. Exactly. So there you go from a bodybuilder

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to a movie actor to governor, and now to this,

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like what media person this is. Yeah. This is the

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best example of the potential that everyone has and how,

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how we all can actually find motivation as long as

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we, as we find that motivation. And we can actually,

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you know, get great results. No, for sure.

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For sure. So, so Roman, This, I've really enjoyed chatting

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with you today as been a really interesting talk with

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very different topics, right. Which is what I love about

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Dennis Shaw, going to meet people like yourself that can

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really share a diverse range of your experiences. So I

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do appreciate your coming on today.

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Thank you for that. Well, Danny thank you for having

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me. It's been an honor. Thank you so much

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For sure. Now, so for, for people that want to

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connect with you, either follow you online are reaching out

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for coaching sessions based on the topics that the fed

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just discussed today. Where's the best way for them to

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either connect with you, to listen to your podcast, et

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cetera.

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Yeah, it's my website. Roman Mironov dot com. Spelled S

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a S R O N M a N N M

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I R I S O N O V. Kit. The

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Contact tab. Contact me for a free coaching session. And

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if you do sign up for coaching and let me

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know that you came off, the podcast was tourist podcast.

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I'll be happy to give you a 30% discount. Oh

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wow.

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I will definitely be sending to my son over a

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zoom call in some States. That's amazing. Thank you so

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much.

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Yes, yes. If you sign him that that'd be great.

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That'd be great.

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Let's go out and I'll be sure to drop the

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links, you know, to Roman site and his podcast and

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to the show notes. So a whatever app you'll tend

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to listen to the, the show on and make sure

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to drop down to the show notes to click these

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links. So again, Roman, I really appreciate it today. Thank

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you for that.

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Okay. Thank you. Danny the pleasure was mine, you know?

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