This episode of Small Business Origins features Sabrina Osso, the founder of OSSO Safe, an organization working to prevent domestic violence through education and technology. The conversation covers Sabrina's childhood experiences with domestic violence, the inspiration behind starting OSSO Safe, and details on their core product offering for landlords and property managers.
Main Discussion Points:
- Sabrina's challenging upbringing in a home with domestic violence and her realization that she wanted to help others in similar situations
- An overview of the OSSO Safe certification program that combines education and technology to promote safety and prevent violence in homes
- How the program works - it includes a policy, seminar, app to detect violent movements, and assigned therapists to properties
- Ideal customers being landlords, property owners and managers to implement this across rental properties
- Pricing details - $125 per unit, one-time fee for landlords to get properties OSSO Safe certified
Guest Bios:
Sabrina Osso is Founder and CEO of OSSO SAFE…Feel safe where you live, work, and play. She is a TEDx Speaker, Author, and Real Estate Agent on promoting safety and preventing violence in the workplace, schools, and in places of residence. Sabrina’s personal and professional experience with the subject allows her to bring a unique and holistic approach as a solution. She is also a professional dancer/teacher who uses her performance abilities to educate on the subject. As a real estate agent, Sabrina is bridging the real estate industry with Osso Safe.
Key Quotes:
"If you're not safe at home, you're not safe anywhere." (00:18:43)
"Enough is enough. Let's nip it in the bud. Let's solve it in residency where all of these violence abuse episodes happen." (00:24:48)
"I always blamed myself. In fact, I would say I am responsible for my parents' marriage, like making it okay." (00:16:05)
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[00:00:01] John Kelley: Tell me your story.
[:[00:00:03] Sabrina Osso: Do you remember?
[:[00:00:04] John Kelley: How did it stop?
[:[00:00:10] Sabrina Osso: I love an origin story.
[:[00:00:17] John Kelley: Louisian, what's his origin story?
[:[00:00:21] John Kelley: I told you this was a good idea.
[: :: [:[00:00:30] Intro: Is up, everyone.
[:[00:00:35] Intro: You're tuned Intro our nationwide search for entrepreneurs that have a story to tell.
[:[00:00:47] Intro: So make sure you find me over there, interact with me, interact with the show.
[:[00:00:51] Intro: But joining me in the studio today, I've got an entrepreneur entrepreneur that wants to share her story that she's been sharing all over the place.
[:[00:01:01] Intro: So virtually in the studio, I've got from Ridgefield, New Jersey, Sabrina Osso with Ohso Safe.
[:[00:01:08] Outro: Thank you so much, John.
[:[00:01:11] Intro: Man, we are happy to have you here.
[:[00:01:21] Intro: But before we do, we always start out with our icebreaker question.
[:[00:01:30] Outro: I have several, but one that stands out is The Brady Bunch.
[:[00:01:39] Outro: Yeah.
[:[00:01:49] Outro: How come while they solve their problems without any, any violence, any abuse, and they they get along and they respect one another.
[:[00:02:09] Outro: You know?
[:[00:02:10] Intro: Yeah.
[:[00:02:12] Intro: You know, something we talked about prior to the show was that, like, how social media kinda gives you the perfect view of everyone's life because that's all that we release.
[:[00:02:22] Intro: We had I mean, the Internet wasn't even really a thing that just regular common people would get on.
[:[00:02:36] Intro: And even before that, you know, the the nineties, it was really just TV that we would see and kinda see these perfect images of what a family is or anything else.
[:[00:02:46] Intro: It just plays into that whole, well, why is it that my life isn't as perfect as this TV life?
[:[00:02:55] Intro: This is not real.
[:[00:02:58] Intro: It's so cyclical how everything in history repeats itself because now we're learning with social media.
[:[00:03:08] Intro: And it's like, well, the Joneses down the road have all kinds of problems they're not telling you about.
[:[00:03:14] Intro: And, that's just interesting.
[:[00:03:19] Intro: I was born in 88, and PBS was, like, the go to thing in the morning while I'm having my cereal or something at my grandmother's house, you know, while my parents are at work.
[:[00:03:30] Intro: Rogers' Neighborhood.
[:[00:03:35] Intro: That was everything that I did.
[:[00:03:42] Intro: I feel like it was really good, wholesome TV, and it just kinda probably made me into the person I am today watching stuff like that versus what kids are seeing today on YouTube and everything else.
[:[00:03:51] Outro: Right.
[:[00:03:55] Outro: He was good.
[:[00:03:56] Outro: And, a few others that you mentioned.
[:[00:03:59] Outro: Yeah.
[:[00:04:05] Outro: So I'm glad you said that.
[:[00:04:07] Outro: It's true.
:: [:[00:04:09] Intro: Well, we are here to talk about you, though, and I know all of this stuff kinda plays into it already.
[:[00:04:14] Intro: We've kinda delved into some of it, but let's start with who Sabrina is.
[:[00:04:18] Intro: How'd you get into entrepreneurship?
[:[00:04:22] Outro: Sure.
[:[00:04:26] Outro: Any opportunity that we have to, do interviews like this, we're we're we're very, very grateful.
[:[00:04:38] Outro: And, but I've been in New Jersey since I was 2a half, about 2a half.
[:[00:04:47] Outro: So my first language is Italian, actually.
[:[00:04:57] Outro: And I'm actually grateful because I am very fluent.
[:[00:05:11] Outro: So I I I have to speak Italian, and, it's a beautiful country.
[:[00:05:22] Outro: And, but I, and I say this because I never enjoyed Italy until I was an adult, because all I remember is my parents fighting.
[:[00:05:39] Outro: My father beat my mother on a regular basis.
[:[00:05:42] Outro: So and I've had enough therapy to be comfortable to say that to a perfect stranger.
[:[00:05:50] Outro: But, we, I feel like I look back, I'm like, wow.
[:[00:06:06] Outro: I never enjoyed it.
[:[00:06:20] Outro: And and I remember my cousin saying, go get yourself a pair of shoes.
[:[00:06:31] Outro: I'll go get a pair of shoes.
[:[00:06:37] Outro: So he said, you know, go into town and get yourself a pair of shoes.
[:[00:06:51] Outro: You know?
[:[00:06:57] Outro: You know?
[:[00:07:00] Outro: It, it steals your life.
[:[00:07:07] Outro: My my, business, Osso Safe, started as a one woman show.
[:[00:07:19] Outro: And I play different women being abused.
[:[00:07:23] Outro: That's where the dancing comes in, but then she's pulled back in the into the terror of violence.
[:[00:07:36] Outro: And we could go over some of the statistics later in the interview.
[:[00:07:42] Outro: I need to make this into a business, a bonafide business with products and services, because I knew the impact that it had on my life.
[:[00:07:59] Outro: So, and I thought back, what did I need growing up?
[:[00:08:04] Outro: What would have really made a positive impact.
[:[00:08:24] Outro: You know?
[:[00:08:41] Outro: So I hope I answered the question.
:: [:[00:08:44] Intro: No.
[:[00:08:46] Intro: And, you know, I know we cheated and we kinda shared some personal stories prior to the show, but I do appreciate the fact that you're willing to talk about these things openly because I I see and campaign against is making it a taboo subject, but it's easy for this to be considered a taboo subject because violence in the home, especially, is so negative, and society views it as that icky thing that we don't wanna see, we don't wanna talk about.
[:[00:09:23] Intro: I don't think people don't wanna talk about it because they don't care about the victim and they just want these people to be victims.
[:[00:09:42] Intro: I think if a majority of Americans or a majority of the world understood, I say Americans first because I think that some of the other world is really kind of privy to what's going on.
[:[00:10:14] Intro: We are in this place where from one lens, life is so perfect.
[:[00:10:35] Intro: And so it it is difficult for people like myself, people like you to come to a show and share these personal details because I think it's easy for a victim like we were to bring that in close and say, well, I don't wanna talk about this ugly side of my life because I don't want people to know about it.
[:[00:10:55] Intro: I don't want people to feel sorry for me.
[:[00:11:06] Intro: And it's like, we take all of that stuff on ourselves.
[:[00:11:15] Intro: And so it traumatized me mentally in a way, even though I never wanted to admit that.
[:[00:11:28] Intro: I had a beautiful family.
[:[00:11:35] Intro: The only problem was a vacation would go from fun bliss to hell really fast, and you never knew when it was gonna come.
[:[00:11:51] Intro: I don't know if you felt this, but I would blame myself for my parents' arguments because it would be something as simple as, you know, I would I would want Osso, for instance.
[:[00:12:10] Intro: Well, he's 5, 6 years old.
[:[00:12:13] Intro: You know?
[:[00:12:19] Intro: But he would say, you know, like, don't don't make my son a pussy.
[:[00:12:24] Intro: Why are you in there making toast for him?
[:[00:12:31] Intro: If I would've just made toast, then my mom wouldn't be in this situation.
[:[00:12:38] Intro: If my dad wasn't being an asshole
[:[00:12:43] Intro: And it wasn't always my dad's fault.
[:[00:12:46] Intro: We're all human.
[:[00:12:47] Intro: Sometimes my mom would be the aggressor.
[:[00:12:52] Intro: I don't think that it was that they hated each other.
[:[00:12:58] Intro: I think it was just that they didn't have resources, something like what you have, that was able to teach them how to argue Kelley.
[: :: [:[00:13:14] Intro: He was forced into Christianity and was kinda told, like, maybe you're not a good Christian, that kind of stuff.
[:[00:13:23] Intro: And then you take my mom.
[:[00:13:30] Intro: So you have 2 people who are traumatized.
[:[00:13:33] Intro: They find the solace in each other, and then they don't know how to work out their own problems because they came from homes where they were taught to deal with their problems the wrong way.
[:[00:13:54] Intro: You know, some of the cases that you've seen, it's clear that the male is the aggressor.
[:[00:13:59] Intro: They're abusive.
[:[00:14:03] Intro: They are manipulative, that kind of stuff.
[:[00:14:10] Intro: I don't think either one of them wanted to be an aggressor or go through something like this.
[:[00:14:18] Intro: So that turned me into a traumatized child who, you know, the same way, my sister would have to come to me and say, hey.
[:[00:14:28] Intro: You know?
[:[00:14:33] Intro: Lamps are flying, and personal belongings are being broken and screaming, cussing, yelling, and all this stuff.
[:[00:14:50] Intro: And believe it or not, my dad literally told me if I ever see you hit a woman, then I'm coming for you.
[:[00:15:02] Intro: I knew he didn't want to be this way.
[:[00:15:10] Intro: But like you, I have gone through some severe trauma as well where where just things were ruined for no reason.
[:[00:15:21] Intro: And it's something I've had to crawl out of and learn myself of just, hey.
[:[00:15:26] Intro: Like, she's going through this problem.
[:[00:15:32] Intro: I gotta remove myself from that and learn to kind of deal with this.
[:[00:15:40] Intro: You've got some, things that kind of it seems like this would help someone who, like my parents, would need something that can tell tell them or teach them how to be better partners in Osso Safe does?
[:[00:15:57] Outro: Yes.
[:[00:16:05] Outro: I always blamed myself.
[:[00:16:14] Outro: And like you said, it is an attribute of abusive parents where or abusive people where they make they make a problem out of nothing.
[:[00:16:26] Outro: Like you said, the toast.
[:[00:16:33] Outro: Like, if I got sick, it was like a war.
[:[00:16:37] Outro: Why didn't you put the jacket on her?
[:[00:16:44] Outro: And it's an attribute of of abusive people, instead of just let it be okay.
[:[00:16:53] Outro: So I echo pretty much everything that you said, John.
[:[00:17:01] Outro: I and I find it, though, a bit shocking that your dad can I ask, is he still living?
[:[00:17:12] Intro: Unfortunately, both of my parents have passed.
[:[00:17:18] Intro: They were both early fifties.
[:[00:17:20] Intro: So my dad was 52.
[:[00:17:22] Outro: Okay.
[:[00:17:37] Outro: He was always he wasn't wrong.
[:[00:17:43] Outro: You made me do this to you.
[:[00:17:46] Outro: So, wow, I find that interesting.
[:[00:17:53] Outro: It's been 5 5 and a half years now that he passed away.
[:[00:18:03] Outro: So back to what I said, what did I need growing up?
[:[00:18:12] Outro: What would have made it better?
[:[00:18:29] Outro: So what we are promoting into the real estate industry, and we focus on the real estate industry because everything stems from the home.
[:[00:18:43] Outro: Kelley let me rephrase that.
[:[00:18:52] Outro: If you trace back all of the shooters in schools where you trace back their home life, they come from violence.
[: :: [:[00:19:18] Outro: It would never even cross one's mind.
[:[00:19:25] Outro: And we are introducing into the real estate industry, Osso SAVE certifications for properties.
[:[00:19:37] Outro: They're made up of 4 components.
[:[00:19:52] Outro: We want this to cross over all types of residency.
[:[00:20:05] Outro: It consists of 4 components, a policy, a seminar, an app, and therapists assigned to the property.
[:[00:20:26] Outro: You in turn as my resident, as my tenant, You promise to not act in any way, shape, or form abusively.
[:[00:20:42] Outro: So it's not like a surprise.
[:[00:20:46] Outro: You know, because it's, it's on paper, it's documented.
[:[00:21:02] Outro: We don't wait until a child is 18 years old to get them to safety.
[:[00:21:21] Outro: An aunt, an uncle, a grandparent, a close family friend.
[:[00:21:28] Outro: It's too late.
[:[00:21:32] Outro: The second component is the seminar, the Osso Safe Home Sweet Home Seminar.
[:[00:21:53] Outro: So that way residents know, oh, I didn't know that if I pulled my partner's hair, that constitutes abuse.
[:[00:22:03] Outro: The third component is the app.
[:[00:22:15] Outro: Now right now it's being improved.
[:[00:22:27] Outro: Shit.
[:[00:22:30] Outro: Well, you just beat the crap out of her in my unit 2.
[:[00:22:36] Outro: This is grounds for eviction.
[:[00:22:42] Outro: It doesn't pick up documents.
[:[00:22:46] Outro: What it picks up is violence.
[:[00:22:57] Outro: The 4th and final component are therapists.
[:[00:23:03] Outro: So in an in an Osso certified property, you are required to check-in with your therapist once a month.
[:[00:23:12] Outro: Do you feel like anything is looming?
[:[00:23:22] Outro: We we sense that there's bullying.
[:[00:23:28] Outro: We're not going to verbally disparage our child.
[:[00:23:41] Outro: So all of these 4 components working together makes for an Osso safe certified property.
[:[00:23:52] Outro: So that way, any pedestrian or vehicle traffic that's going by, they see the logo and they know what that means.
[:[00:24:12] Outro: They don't just leave it to the wind, toss it up to chance.
[:[00:24:27] Outro: They make respect safety a number one priority.
[:[00:24:42] Outro: And as you said, John, there's so many people going through this.
[:[00:24:48] Outro: Enough is enough.
[:[00:24:52] Outro: Let's solve it in residency where all of these violence abuse episodes happen.
[:[00:25:04] Outro: I mean, to schools, to universities, to workplaces, but our focus is in residency.
[: :: [:[00:25:18] Intro: So this is the app that is going to detect these things.
[:[00:25:30] Intro: This isn't forced.
[:[00:25:36] Intro: This is something I have to consent to and take part in.
[:[00:25:49] Intro: I would know if I wanted to rent from this property ahead of time that it is an Osso safe certified place and that I would have to participate in this program in order to qualify to live there.
[:[00:26:00] Outro: Correct.
[:[00:26:01] Outro: Basically.
[:[00:26:22] Outro: But if your lease is not up, then we will do what's called an exchange of consideration, which means we will reduce your rent X amount of dollars if you become Osso certified for the remainder of your Kelley, because we know that let's say we're in the month of, May, but you have a lease until December.
[:[00:26:45] Outro: You could either become a social safe certified and get your rent reduced up until December, or you could stay the way you are and not not participate.
[:[00:27:02] Outro: So, yes, it's not forced, but we are very transparent in this is how we run this property.
[:[00:27:14] Outro: You don't have to live here.
[:[00:27:18] Outro: You could go elsewhere.
[:[00:27:20] Outro: But know that we're looking to make this a standard because quite frankly, no one should live with violence, with abuse, with chaos, with with dysfunction, especially a child.
[:[00:27:44] Outro: It's very traumatizing as you stated and as I stated.
[:[00:27:56] Intro: Yeah.
[:[00:27:57] Intro: I'm in agreement there.
[:[00:28:06] Intro: And so on one hand with this, I'm I'm super excited about it.
[:[00:28:29] Intro: Right.
[:[00:28:38] Intro: That same side that's a little less radical says, let's have a lot more gun laws in place, and let's, you know, make these huge changes, which I'm sorry, but making you know, like, beating the crap out of your wife is illegal.
[:[00:28:54] Intro: No.
[:[00:28:59] Intro: The very other side of it, you know, in some instances kinda says, hey.
[:[00:29:05] Intro: In other instances, says it's a mental health issue.
[:[00:29:14] Intro: There's a mental health issue stemming from probably a major physical abuse situation that's occurring in I don't know what the statistics are, but a majority of those cases, that mental, insecurity was led to by the physical abuse.
[:[00:29:39] Intro: You know what?
[:[00:29:48] Intro: And so I love that this is an answer for that because to me, it seems like something that we can actually take action on that could have a difference or make a difference versus if you just add gun laws, some people aren't going to abide by those gun laws.
[:[00:30:10] Intro: So I, I think that both sides kinda have some good concerns, some good ideas, some bad ideas, all that stuff, and I think this is a little bit in the middle.
[:[00:30:27] Intro: Make it mandatory.
[:[00:30:29] Intro: Everyone takes part in this or, you know, you don't even need to live in America anymore versus the other side's gonna say, well, this is very big brother.
[:[00:30:37] Intro: We want our freedom.
[:[00:30:40] Intro: And then, again, us in the middle, people like myself are gonna say, hey.
[:[00:30:45] Intro: I like some components of it, and I have some questions and or concerns on some other parts of it as well.
[:[00:30:51] Intro: So one of my concerns would be, well, first of all, let me back up and ask, is this active in other, you know, like, is this testing or is this already being used by some agencies, realtors, you know, landlords, that kind of thing?
:: [:[00:31:09] Outro: I have been improving upon it.
[:[00:31:18] Outro: And but we are ready to go.
[:[00:31:23] Outro: I have access to the, multiple listing service to property owners, property managers, landlords, tenants, buyers, and sellers.
[:[00:31:37] Outro: And also as a member oh, as a real estate agent, you become a member of these national associations, right, for real estate agents.
[:[00:31:51] Outro: We exist.
[:[00:31:53] Outro: These are the services, and we're ready to go.
[:[00:32:02] Outro: We are ready to implement and execute, and this is also national.
[:[00:32:19] Outro: Right?
[:[00:32:29] Outro: You should be without any fear of anyone beating the crap out of you or, or verbal physical sexual abuse in any capacity.
[:[00:32:48] Outro: I understand.
[:[00:32:55] Outro: So I've designed it where there is very little, how do I say, resistance or as little as possible because I had to, what is it, dot the i's and check off check the t's, you know, because we want the most people on board.
[:[00:33:25] Outro: So, so I hope I answer answer the question.
[:[00:33:34] Intro: No.
[:[00:33:34] Intro: I'm just trying to figure out, like, is this something that has been beta tested so far?
[:[00:33:42] Intro: Is have you seen some problems that you've solved with it, or are you just still kind of in that testing mode where you're anticipating problems and and trying to
[:[00:33:51] Outro: I would say in the middle, testing and also implementing.
[:[00:34:05] Outro: So, the software company that I hired, like I said, they go according to my specifications and even they said, wow.
[:[00:34:20] Outro: So, and this this will be it will have multiple applications even as a real estate agent, not only in the homes, but as a real estate agent, you go on showings, open houses.
[:[00:34:41] Outro: There are many stories, unfortunately, how agents are, either they are kidnapped or attacked or even murdered.
[:[00:34:55] Outro: She she showed a a vacant house, a vacant investment property to someone, and he kidnapped her and killed her ultimately.
[:[00:35:07] Outro: I think it was in the state of Arkansas.
[:[00:35:19] Outro: So another application would be for if you have nannies watching your young children or pet sitters for your pets, this would be very applicable, my the app, the Osso app.
[:[00:35:40] Outro: And and you would have to use the cameras that are designed with the app.
[:[00:35:50] Outro: It won't be as compatible as using the cameras designed with the app.
[:[00:35:59] Outro: I mean, between the policy, the seminar, the app and the therapist, we're ready to go.
[:[00:36:12] Intro: So this is gonna use basically some type of home security camera connected to your phone app, and then that's where is it where the phone is going to feel this movement and then kind of AI is going to review this camera to see if some type of action is
[:[00:36:29] Outro: Yeah.
[:[00:36:33] Outro: I mean, you could be you could be roughhousing as the phrase goes, right, kidding around and you're you're punching, you're you're throwing each other to the ground and everything, but it'll match your facial expression.
[:[00:36:54] Outro: You know, she or he, is not in a good spot right now.
[:[00:37:12] Outro: So, so there is that component to differentiate.
[:[00:37:18] Intro: Yeah.
[:[00:37:22] Intro: Right?
[:[00:37:33] Intro: And so that was kind of my concern was how is it going to know this difference between that?
[:[00:37:45] Intro: And it's like, the last thing I would want as a parent is a cop showing up to my door.
[:[00:38:02] Intro: So that was a big concern that I have there.
[:[00:38:07] Intro: It does still I need to look into this more and kinda be sold on it a little more because it it's it's a little weird for me.
[:[00:38:16] Intro: The closest we have inside is a Furbo, which is to you know, because we're nerds Osso we like to give our dogs treats while we're gone, and be able to check up on him.
[:[00:38:28] Intro: And so my other question would be kinda too is if someone is like me and they don't want those security cameras all throughout their house, is there an option where it can function without the security cameras?
[:[00:38:48] Intro: Right?
[:[00:38:56] Intro: Well, the cameras can't see anything that's going on in there.
[:[00:39:02] Outro: detect the score?
[:[00:39:04] Outro: I mean, you get to decide where the cameras go.
[:[00:39:15] Outro: It could be in the hallway.
[:[00:39:23] Outro: Osso it is by choice.
[:[00:39:28] Outro: But the idea is that, and I'm sure you you know this as well because you've experienced violence, abusers can only keep their poker face for so long.
[:[00:39:59] Outro: So there are options with the whole, the package, definitely as far as what cameras or where the cameras will be installed.
[:[00:40:21] Outro: The app detects the violence for you.
[:[00:40:27] Outro: I wish I had a camera to capture that.
[:[00:40:36] Outro: And this is the areas that I'm getting, improvement upon where it the false alarms are are decreased, where it's more precise on the type of or, I should say violence abuse, where it won't detect roughhousing or different types of roughhousing.
[:[00:40:59] Outro: There's people that, they prefer Again, it it it's got to match that level of, fear of worry, of anxiety, of, panic.
[:[00:41:22] Outro: So I hope I answered the question.
[:[00:41:26] Intro: No.
[:[00:41:32] Intro: I do see this as a possible this is a movement that could make a huge difference in the world of abuse, in the world of violence, both inside and outside of the home.
[:[00:41:44] Intro: So I absolutely see the value here.
[:[00:41:55] Intro: So I would never come out and say, like, nope.
[:[00:41:58] Intro: I hate it.
[:[00:42:00] Intro: I would say that cautiously with concern, I am interested in this, and I kinda want to investigate it more as that possible answer.
[:[00:42:14] Intro: But more specifically, you know, who needs to be searching into your product and finding out this information?
[:[00:42:23] Intro: Or is this just something where you really kinda probably want these investors and people who are purchasing homes and renting them out and that kind
[:[00:42:32] Outro: You mean who would be a potential customer?
[:[00:42:37] Intro: Yeah.
[:[00:42:39] Outro: I would say landlords, property owners, property managers.
[:[00:42:51] Outro: So you could be only the owner or the mortgage holder of your your your single family home, for example.
[:[00:43:07] Outro: Then what?
[:[00:43:13] Outro: So our goal is to have this propagate over all residency, all types of residency, and to make this a standard where, yeah, there should be no violence, no abuse, no chaos, no dysfunction.
[:[00:43:33] Outro: And so it kind of puts it it acts as a deterrent for anyone if your partner is thinking, well, I'll go elsewhere.
[:[00:43:47] Outro: No.
[:[00:43:51] Outro: Okay.
[:[00:43:52] Outro: No, that property will be OSO SAIF certified.
[:[00:44:02] Outro: They have freedom.
[:[00:44:06] Outro: That's the wrong word.
[:[00:44:13] Outro: So and this is where the education complements the technology and the technology complements the education.
[:[00:44:25] Outro: It's also the techno the, excuse me, the education.
[:[00:44:35] Outro: We're not going to say, okay.
[:[00:44:38] Outro: All of you abusers stand up, and all of you victims, No.
[:[00:44:44] Outro: We do a blanket education for everyone, whether you're safe at home or not safe at home, because quite frankly, all of this, the education, knowing the facts, the statistics, the warning signs, and we make it interactive where by the end of the education, the last component of the seminar, we put it to practice.
[:[00:45:15] Outro: Are you going to beat your kid?
[:[00:45:19] Outro: Are you going to and and we realize people lie.
[:[00:45:25] Outro: They're gonna lie.
[:[00:45:29] Outro: This is great.
[:[00:45:31] Outro: But like I said, your abusive colors, if if that's what you are, they're gonna show.
[:[00:45:44] Outro: We do the interactive where it's it's a practice, and we continue that practice.
[:[00:45:55] Outro: Okay.
[:[00:45:57] Outro: And when an episode occurs, well, you're Outro.
[:[00:46:03] Outro: There has to be both because otherwise it defeats the purpose and, and abusers need to be educated.
[:[00:46:15] Outro: This if if you're if you're respectful in your household, this is just going to reinforce everything that you already know.
[:[00:46:29] Outro: It's going to even give you more tools and more resources to handle a bully.
[:[00:46:46] Outro: What did he do to you?
[:[00:46:49] Outro: And so these are all they go hand in hand, John.
[:[00:46:59] Outro: So, so this makes for better residency for everyone.
[:[00:47:07] Outro: Yeah.
[:[00:47:09] Outro: Like, you know, they say in business, you you have to narrow in on your market.
[:[00:47:17] Outro: I get it.
[:[00:47:29] Outro: But the long term, and I would say as soon as possible, it's all residency, all residency, really.
[:[00:47:43] Outro: There just isn't, You know?
[:[00:47:48] Outro: We're not saying everything is going to be perfect.
[: :: [:[00:48:00] Outro: Of course, there's gonna be conflict.
[:[00:48:05] Outro: You're going to have problems with your children as they get older.
[:[00:48:18] Outro: There's a way to be in conflict.
[:[00:48:29] Outro: So there's a way to fight.
[:[00:48:34] Outro: So just that alone, that component, we think is very valuable in any household, any household, especially if you come from violence and you, you mentioned this in your own household, you're not given tools, you know, you're not given resources.
[:[00:48:54] Outro: It's not explained to you.
[:[00:48:58] Outro: Don't ever punch.
[:[00:49:10] Outro: All of that is verbal abuse.
[:[00:49:26] Outro: So that way, any episodes are prevented.
[:[00:49:31] Outro: They're they're just prevented.
[:[00:49:35] Outro: You know?
[:[00:49:38] Intro: No.
[:[00:49:39] Intro: So my next question would be, what is your plan for funding?
[:[00:49:45] Intro: Is this going to cost the person who's partaking in it?
[:[00:49:52] Intro: Kinda what is your plan on that as far as how the company will be making money to continue these improvements and to put on these seminars and push this technological advance.
[:[00:50:12] Outro: It's a $125 per unit, and that covers the entire package.
[:[00:50:23] Outro: You pay for the $125 per unit.
[:[00:50:31] Outro: There's 1st level, 2nd level, 3rd level.
[:[00:50:43] Outro: The sign goes outside of the property, and and then there are therapists assigned to the property.
[:[00:50:55] Outro: So then we move to the second level, and that's where, a an arrangement is worked out between the therapist and the tenant or the the resident where they need more therapy.
[:[00:51:20] Outro: You hit her.
[:[00:51:23] Outro: Some something happened or there was an altercation.
[:[00:51:40] Outro: The 3rd level of Osso safe certification is if both parents are abusive, And that's when we step in with our own security and we get the child to safety, whoever the child names, aunt, uncle, grandparent, close family, friend.
[:[00:52:03] Outro: And I have tested this.
[:[00:52:11] Outro: And I and like I said, I consulted with the with our small team of lawyers.
[:[00:52:18] Outro: That is doable.
[:[00:52:33] Outro: And like I said, it's a one time deal for the landlord.
[:[00:52:39] Outro: They got their property Osso safe certified.
[:[00:52:47] Outro: Okay.
[:[00:52:52] Outro: Yeah.
[:[00:52:54] Intro: Is that is that an annual fee or you're saying lifetime for the unit?
[:[00:53:01] Outro: Lifetime for the unit.
[:[00:53:13] Outro: You know, as real real estate agents, we have to go through our continued education credits and everything every 2 years.
[:[00:53:26] Outro: Maybe you have one child.
[:[00:53:30] Outro: You broke up with somebody, so now there's different, living arrangements.
[:[00:53:50] Outro: It it would be like a renewal.
[:[00:54:00] Outro: And that's it.
[:[00:54:10] Intro: His new business
[:[00:54:11] Outro: With a new family, it's a new education.
[:[00:54:14] Outro: It's a new lease, if you will.
[:[00:54:17] Outro: Yeah.
[:[00:54:18] Outro: So excuse me.
[:[00:54:23] Intro: Perfect.
[:[00:54:25] Intro: Yeah.
[:[00:54:26] Intro: No.
[:[00:54:27] Intro: Absolutely.
[:[00:54:28] Outro: sure.
[:[00:54:32] Intro: I don't mean to interrupt, but I have, like, probably 2 more hours worth of questions I could ask you.
[:[00:54:41] Intro: Right?
[:[00:54:44] Intro: So to the listener who's out there right now, because unfortunately, we just don't have time.
[:[00:54:55] Intro: So for that listener that wants to connect and kinda do some of this digging and investigating, how do we get in touch with your product, with you Yes.
[:[00:55:05] Outro: And on the website, it explains more in detail the Osso safe home sweet home package, the certifications, what's involved that breaks it, in into components.
[:[00:55:17] Outro: We are on all the major social media platforms, Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram, And I just started about a year now, a TikTok and a YouTube dedicated to kids, whether they're safe at home or not safe at home, the Osso Safe Kids channel, if you will.
[:[00:55:41] Outro: And if you are of dating age, what are the warning signs to look out for?
[:[00:55:51] Outro: I I just published a children's book.
[:[00:55:55] Outro: And this book will be a staple in certifications because it lays the groundwork, especially for kids.
[:[00:56:05] Outro: The difference between abuse and non abuse, the difference between respect and disrespect, and to give them voice that they have choice over their residency.
[: :: [:[00:56:31] Intro: Right?
[:[00:56:35] Intro: But what is it that our listeners could do that would support your mission and what you have going on?
[:[00:56:49] Outro: With children or with children that they care about that are not safe at home, tell those children whether they're at school, whether they are at camp, do not go home.
[:[00:57:02] Outro: Stay at school.
[:[00:57:04] Outro: I wanna live where I am Osso safe and I am also safe with whoever that is, an aunt, an uncle, a grandparent, a close family friend.
[:[00:57:15] Outro: I wanna live where I am Osso safe, and I am also safe with that the kids need to band together, that schools need to be instrumental in creating a safe environment for their students, especially the ones that are not safe at home, to help them to get to safety.
[:[00:57:35] Outro: Schools know the kids that are troubled at home, just by the sheer court orders and restraining orders and how they behave at school.
[:[00:57:44] Outro: Teachers are with their students all day long.
[:[00:57:48] Outro: I know it's avant garde.
[:[00:57:57] Outro: I I speak from personal and professional experience.
[:[00:58:07] Outro: Give voice to their students, to those kids that are not safe at home.
[:[00:58:14] Outro: Get them there.
[:[00:58:19] Intro: Awesome.
[:[00:58:29] Intro: You know?
[:[00:58:31] Intro: There's definitely more information I need before I'm ready to pay the fee and download the app, but it's it's something that I'm interested in as a possible solution for this stuff.
[:[00:58:43] John Kelley: and getting this thing out there
[:[00:58:45] Outro: Thank you so much for your positive feedback, all your questions.
[:[00:58:56] Outro: So thank you.
[:[00:59:02] Intro: Listeners, thank you as well for tuning in to another episode of Small Business Origins and hearing that story, the things that we shared, the things that we talked about.
[:[00:59:21] Intro: And, of course, you know, send in those recommendations and questions and all of those things that you have.
[: :: [:[00:59:35] Intro: We're gonna have all of this stuff down in the show notes for you, some links and resources to places that you can get help if you are in an abusive situation.
[:[00:59:50] Intro: So make sure you check those things out.
[:[00:59:58] Intro: Other than that, we'll see you on the next episode of Small Business Origins as we have every single week, and I can't thank you again enough for being here.
[:[01:00:11] John Kelley: Thanks for listening to another episode of Small Business Origins.
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[:[01:00:22] John Kelley: They're gonna love it.
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