Taja Cheek records brilliant, kaleidoscopic, genre-bursting music under the name L'Rain. She joins me to talk about the amount of twee in her personal hell, "nice" vs. kind vs. "interesting," and all it takes to grow as a person. We hear about a joyous all-night Thanksgiving cooking binge, and she reckons with a perpetual L'Rain topic, the possibility of change.

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Transcript: This Is Your Afterlife on Podscribe

Music = Future: "Use Me" / James Blackshaw: "The Cloud of Unknowing" / Four Tet: "Two Thousand and Seventeen" / Johnnie Frierson: "Miracles"