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From Bricks to Clicks: Getting Started With Ecommerce With Filipa Almeida From Onport
Episode 4920th November 2024 • Unboxing Logistics • EasyPost
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Welcome to Unboxing Logistics.

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I'm your host, Lori Boyer of EasyPost, and today we are going to be talking about

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something that's really interesting, actually.

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We are going to be going into the idea of moving from a brick and mortar store.

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You know, you've had your amazing boutique and moving to the online ecommerce world.

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How you do that, well?

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If you've already done that, how you grow and expand and really just how you balance

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that sort of mixture of businesses, that omnichannel kind of experience for your

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customers This is a really big topic.

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And so I have brought in Filipa Almeida of Onport.

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Filipa, can you introduce yourself to our community here?

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Tell us a little bit about your background.

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Absolutely, Lori.

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Thank you so much for having me.

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I'm really excited to be here today talking about this really interesting topic with you.

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I'm a chief customer officer at Onport.

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I have been working with retailers and ecommerce for the last eight

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years it's been an amazing journey.

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I started off in food retail.

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I decided to move into the world of ecommerce and that's when I moved to Onport initially

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as the head of customer success and support.

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And I am now the chief customer officer and very happy with, with this last

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challenge that I've embraced to them.

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That's fantastic.

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So I'm so glad you mentioned food because one of the things we've been doing

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this season is asking all of my guests if you have a favorite comfort food.

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So at least here in the U.S.

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We say comfort food, you know what that means?

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That translates well to Portugal.

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Okay, good.

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Good.

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What would be your favorite comfort food?

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Okay, favorite comfort food, I have to say I have two go tos.

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Okay, good.

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Pizza.

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So pizza is I think the number one choice.

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Depending the time of the year, if it's winter, I will also go for ramen.

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I really like that.

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Ah, both of those sound amazing.

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I'll narrow it down to these two.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Pizza's always my go to as well.

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So I feel like we can connect and, and we can go out to eat.

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That sounds amazing.

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Okay.

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So our topic today is about brick and mortar and that adjustment to adding

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and expanding into the ecommerce world.

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And for those who have already done it, as I said, to how we balance that well.

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So if somebody is listening, if there's a member of our community out there and they've got like,

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I only have five minutes, but I really want to hear what Filipa has to say, what are, you know,

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one or two or three, you know, what are some key takeaways you would want them to remember from our

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conversation if they don't remember anything else?

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All right.

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I think the first key takeaway that I think our listeners can take from this conversation

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is what are the most common challenges that challenges that brick and mortar retailers

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face when they're moving to ecommerce?

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What should they expect?

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And what is it that many of them have faced when doing this move?

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Also.

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What strategies can they adopt to make this transition more efficient?

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How can they choose between all the options that will be available in the market?

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What should they think about before?

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And also, what's the role of technology in all of this?

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What is how does technology fit in?

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And what is the value?

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And how do they, what's the role it plays in this shift to to the online world?

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Okay.

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Awesome.

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I am so excited to hear all of the answers to those.

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So this is going to be really fun.

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I want to start though, Filipa, I would say I have a friend who runs just this amazing boutique in

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this, and that's why I mentioned that earlier, in kind of a smaller town, really popular.

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She's doing really, really well, but she doesn't sell anything online.

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Okay, she hasn't moved into the ecommerce world.

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If she said to me, Lori, why should I?

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You know, I'm doing well as is.

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What, what are the reasons that you feel like are the most important reasons that

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people should move to the ecommerce world?

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And should they always, I guess, Filipa?

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I mean, maybe they should, don't need to.

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Let me start with, with the, your specific example.

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Okay.

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You said something really important.

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Your friend says she's really already doing pretty well.

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So she's quite happy with where her business is at.

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Right.

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So even if it's not for the unmissable opportunity that online brings to any

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retailer wanting to expand their, their sales, expand their, their revenue.

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I think it will for in her case, it will be a lot about keeping up with their customers demand.

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So her customers nowadays, they don't always want to go into the store and shop

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at take may take the time to go into the shop and, and choose their products.

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The general customer basis is is evolving.

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Their needs and requirements are evolving.

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And they expect retailers to evolve with them.

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They expect their favorite stores to provide the experience of purchasing online

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and not making them go into the store.

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They expect to have their the the that same product offering available at

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any moment constantly, immediately.

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And and they expect to have that option of going into the store if they feel like going

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to the store or just having that same product at the distance of a click of a button.

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I love how you said that.

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It was something that I hadn't really thought of, but sometimes, it's terrible, but

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sometimes it's not about you and what you want.

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You may just love being in the store, but as a business owner, if you're

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running a business, no matter the size, your customers really do come first.

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And what their needs and demands are are probably different than what yours may be.

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So so smart.

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That is so true.

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Consumer behaviors have completely shifted.

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I, I know for myself, I am so guilty.

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You said that and I felt guilty a little bit because I am very much the type who

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likes to buy things online and not that I don't mind going into the stores, but

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yeah, getting it conveniently is, is key.

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Yes, that convenience is now I think the norm.

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I think customers expect that at all times.

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They expect their favorite retailers to keep up with that, with that

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convenience and that service.

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I think there's also an other very striking reasons that will make a retailer feel like

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they need to tackle this online opportunity.

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I think the first one is it's an it's an unmissable opportunity in the sense that

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the global ecommerce market has tripled its size in the last 10 years, and it's only

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growing it's very incredible rates still.

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Also, I think retailers realize that they can now showcase their same range of products that

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they previously was only accessible to us to the hundreds, dozens, maybe thousands of customers

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that walk into their stores, and now they can showcase them to millions of customers that

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may stumble into their website or into, or, or may find their stock available in marketplaces

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or other online retailers around the globe.

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They can reach customers that they would never reach before if they, if they didn't.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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ecommerce, global trade.

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It's huge and it's only growing.

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Those consumer behaviors.

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We've moved into this online world where people are very comfortable shopping online

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and that is where the opportunity is.

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So let's say my friend then decides, okay, what am I going to tell her?

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What are the first steps she needs to take?

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What, how do you even get started?

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She has a website.

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Obviously, most brick and mortar places are going to already have a website and whatnot.

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So, you know, what's next?

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I think next is trying to design what that distribution what

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distribution strategy should be.

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So, what will it look like?

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What will the operation look like with two channels now?

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And what do you want for that?

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So, do you want to have, like you were saying, most retailers already have an online store.

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Okay, do you want to stop there?

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Or do you want to then make your make, you were saying your friend has a boutique.

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Okay.

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Do you want to keep your online store or do you want to reduce inventory risk by by

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implementing a dropshipping model where you have the stock of your sellers, the stock of

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your favorite brands directly available in your platform without you having to buy from them?

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For those in the, in our community who don't maybe know what dropshipping is,

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can you just give us a little explanation?

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What is the dropshipping model?

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Dropshipping is a very popular model that multi vendor retailers are adopting

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to showcase their products online.

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What does this mean?

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Basically, the retailer, or let's call it the marketplace, reduces inventory risk

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by integrating the stock of their vendors, of their sellers, directly in their front

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end, in their product offering from their warehouses, from their systems.

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But into their system, into their into their front end.

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So that with drop shipping automation technology, you are able to sell in your online

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boutique a multitude of, of different products.

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And the, this stock doesn't live with you.

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You don't hold the risk of that stock and it's sitting with your, with your sellers.

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In the end, you capture a commission.

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And that's how this works.

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Let's talk about, you mentioned marketplace.

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Okay.

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So what is a marketplace?

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For, you know, those who don't know, you have my friend here, Stacey, shout out Stacey.

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She may not even know exactly, you know, what is a marketplace and how do you kind

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of sign up to be part of a marketplace?

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Generally speaking, a marketplace is an ecommerce platform that displays a range of

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products under one single stop shop for any customer looking to buy from a given category

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or, or, or from if you're multi category, then any customer wanting to shop online, really.

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You have examples like Amazon where Amazon is a multi category one stop shop platform where you

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can find pretty much anything you'd like to buy.

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But not all that stock belongs to Amazon.

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A lot of that of the stock displayed in Amazon is coming from small boutiques in the

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countryside of any country, any big country, really, because they operate globally.

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Who are sitting in their store and they have the opportunity to sell to customers that

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would otherwise never come into their stores or their websites for that, for that matter.

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You also have marketplaces, niche marketplaces, curated marketplaces.

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So these are online platforms that specialize and focus in a niche market opportunity.

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You have examples you have examples like customers operating in sustainable industries

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where they, their offer is certified sustainable.

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You have companies operating in other niche areas like gifting, for example.

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You want your, your product offering is, is specifically focused on gifting items.

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And you're, you don't hold the stock, but you work with a lot of vendors, a lot of

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sellers whose stock you display on your, on your platform and your customers are

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available, are, are able to buy it.

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Okay, so that's fantastic.

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It's, so it's a way for you to get out there.

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How can you find, you know, the best platform, the best marketplace maybe for you?

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You mentioned there's a bunch of variety of types, different niche markets.

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How do you recommend finding what what is right, and and do you recommend

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being on multiple marketplaces?

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How does that work?

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There's very interesting options nowadays for that.

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You have your own research, of course, that everyone can do online.

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That requires time.

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So it's it's the, and, and a lot of knowledge on the on, on the marketplace scene, which

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isn't always easy to, to find centralized.

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But then you have other really interesting options like players in the market that already

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specialize in finding that network of, of supply and bringing it to, bringing it to marketplaces

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that they are, that they are, that exists already bringing it to retailers that already exists.

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So, for example, the likes of Channel Engine, Channel Advisory.

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These are all companies that they gather, they work with these smaller

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boutiques, brands that wants to go online, but they don't know where to start.

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So they work with these sellers and they bring those marketplaces to them.

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And that's a very interesting option that a lot of a lot of companies moving

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to the online world are are embracing.

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So when, when you start to branch into this, I guess it sort of brought up a thought for me.

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Do you hire, how do, I guess, how do you split your team?

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How do you do this?

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The ecommerce, so you've got a marketplace, now you've got your physical location.

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Do you assign certain team members to work on one side and not on another side?

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I know that there's different models and different ways, but do you have

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any recommendations for our listeners?

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That's a, that's a a really really interesting question and not easy to answer.

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I'd say that, I would say that it depends a lot on the magnitude of their, of their online

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distribution, whether they want to start small with their own website and they want to keep

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things separate, or whether they want to, you know, whether they want to focus on rapid

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growth, like capturing a lot of, capturing a lot of revenue with high investment, or whether

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they want to focus on sustainable growth.

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So investing little, but strategically, and ultimately on how you want your, your distribution

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strategy to, how integrated you want it to be.

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So do you want to have an independent operation where you, you need to have a team that is only

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focusing on, on, on online, or do you want to integrate your, on your existing supply chain?

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So your network of stores, your your warehouses, and you want to integrate it

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with your online operation and make it what we call, what is called an omnichannel

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distribution, where they were the offline and the online operations kind of intertwined.

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That is a much, that's a much bigger investment, a much bigger, operation that requires a lot,

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that requires technology that, that requires a tech heavy tech solutions customized based

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the, API based with composable technology.

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And it's of course, something that requires a much bigger delivery sources.

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And then you can also choose to, to outsource part of your, part of your processes.

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You can focus on what you call your core which is your assortment and your front end and

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your customer service, but then outsource things like shipping, like exactly like

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players like EasyPost are, are currently doing.

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And I think that's again, it goes back to the point of how you want your distribution and

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what your distribution strategy looks like.

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Yeah, I love that.

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So, number one, just determine what your goals are, figure out what your strategy is going to

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be, and then adjust based on what those goals are.

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So, don't just dive in, but actually make sure that you're setting goals.

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Exactly, that's really important.

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It's really important for you to start with setting your goals, how far do you want to go?

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And then what's the best platforms out there that fit my needs and my strategy?

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That's the second point that is really important for, for retailer to look into.

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So, Filipa, what do you feel like, as people start, are their biggest challenges that they

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face as a newcomer to the ecommerce world?

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They're, what are the options out there?

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Like, what do they, what do they need to, to consider when designing their strategy?

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I think that's a, that's a really big one.

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Another one that they, that they, they, they look at is how do I navigate this offer?

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Like, how do I know what is, what, what exactly is the best fit for me?

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What am I looking at?

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Another one that's a lot of customers that I've that I've this, that I've had conversations

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with and that I've supported in the past have, have struggled with is, I've always

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controlled my experience in store, right?

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I know exactly what my customers can expect from the moment they come in, and I know

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the look on their faces when they go out.

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So I know if they're happy, if they're not.

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I know exactly.

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I know it.

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I control it.

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And when, when they move to the online to ecommerce and to their online

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channels, they, they don't see it.

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They, they feel like they don't see it.

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They can't control it.

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So understanding how they can have that visibility and how they can and how they

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can get that perception is also another something that really weighs on them.

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And, and something that you're very familiar with, you've probably had these conversations

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in the past with other guests is, shipping.

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So shipping is, shipping is something new.

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Maybe not completely new, but new as a standard for them.

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And they don't have control over that over that part.

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Very, very rarely a company moving to the online also has their own distribution,

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their own transportation company.

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So that shipping side of it is really important.

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So how far do we, what does shipping look like?

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How far do I want to go?

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Do I want to ship in domestically?

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Do I want to ship cross border?

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What does that entail?

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If I'm shipping cross border, what are the customs requirements?

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What are taxing implications?

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It can be overwhelming or very overwhelming for a traditional retailer to, to take this step.

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Last but not least, I think, another, and this comes from my experience with luxury

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fashion is extending the customer ambition, the customer experience ambition to online.

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I can give you an example.

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I, I worked on a project to, to integrate to integrate the operations

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of a very high end luxury brand in Italy.

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And one of the things that they were really struggling with was how am I going to,

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how am I going to know that my customers are going to feel the same exclusivity

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and personalization experience in when purchasing from me in a marketplace?

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Something that they've built on their own online, but they don't know how they're going to

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pass through to their customers when operating through a third party and a marketplace partner.

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So I remember that was something that was critical for them.

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A very simple example was the packaging.

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They had to make sure that their customers received their own packaging

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within the packaging of the marketplace.

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So they had to see the box.

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The box is value.

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The box is product for them.

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And, and that's all nuances to challenges that these, that a retailer faces when they're moving

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to the online, it's navigating the unknown and a lot of the ambiguity that's, that's operating

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online may have for, for, for these retailers.

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Do you have any tips for the retailers then when it comes to you mentioned, you know,

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they may not know what options are out there and they're navigating the unknown.

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They're losing control over things they felt like they had control.

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You know, how do they get resources?

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How do they figure out what to do?

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I think the choosing the right platform is, is an important a very important decision,

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and it's something that may resolve part of those, of those other challenges like the control side.

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So if that is something that they want to ensure that they have data insights, customer data

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insights that they, that they have them in detail that they have them at hand with a

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user friendly dashboard and experience, that's something they can look for when they're looking

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at the different ecommerce platforms out there.

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So they should start they should start isolating the critical requirements for their operation.

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So that could be one of them.

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Like I really need a platform that gives me great data insights.

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Customer data insights.

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That's what I'm looking for in this in this it's a priority for me when

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moving to the on to online channels.

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Another one can be, I need a platform that is going to be really user friendly

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because I don't have a tech team.

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I don't have developers or any tech or tech savvy people in my in my teams right now.

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So I need something that is really user friendly.

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Something that they could also think about is, okay, I, I want to, I want to

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make sure that I have little barriers to integrating different marketplaces.

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They're a small retailer and they want to be present in a lot of marketplaces.

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So I want to make sure I want to have very little barriers to this.

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So I want to choose a platform that has a broad a broad range of connectivity

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options with with other technologies.

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Something that that we see I think in the, in the ecommerce platform scene is some

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players, I'll give the example of Shopify.

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Shopify has been really I think they've been doing a great job at great job at understanding

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their customer base, understanding their customer requirements, anticipating some

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of those requirements and those needs.

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And then shifting towards adapting and evolving in that direction.

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Like Shopify has become a very common very top of mind choice for many retailers joining

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they've created different subscription different subscriptions, subscription tiers for the

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different needs of their very wide customer base.

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And of the market that they serve, really they have isolated critical key key features

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that are typically required by those, those ICP of those different subscription plans.

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And they are, and they have and the platform, they've built it in a way that

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it's it's intuitive, it's user friendly.

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It has great it, it lives in its own ecosystem.

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They have an app store where they make available third party apps that provide

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services that compliment the, the operation and the, the, and the, the range

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of services that they offer themselves.

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They also go beyond the platform.

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So I think

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when a retailer is looking at the, at, at which platform to choose, that's what they

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need to look at is what, what am I looking for?

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What is critical for my, for my business and for my operations?

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And then isolate that, try to narrow down the, the, those critical requirements,

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those priorities, and look at the, at the options available in the market.

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And I'm, it will be intuitive.

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Sometimes there are platforms that are, they specialize in a niche.

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Like they're very popular amongst fashion retailers in Italy, for example, or platforms

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that they have a broad range of the features and it's easy for you to make changes to

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your business model using those platforms.

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Yeah, I love that.

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And I think that it's such a great insight as you're moving into the ecommerce

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space there are a lot of resources.

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And as you mentioned, people have been there before.

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From the technology, but the people behind the technology as well as you reach out and talk

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to them, they're gonna give you advice, give you suggestions of things that you can do.

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And and so they'll help you move forward, I think, is what I'm I'm saying.

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So, Filipa, so let's talk about maybe a business that has gone online.

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Maybe they you know, started out as a brick and mortar or they got themselves on a marketplace.

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What is kind of the next step?

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You know, so you're saying we're doing pretty well.

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How do you expand that?

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What, what are the ways to continue scaling and growing?

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Top of mind for, for most retailers that tap into the ecommerce scene and that

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really want to continue growing is I think mapping out their, their possible

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routes, mapping out their, their options.

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What have they done already?

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And how can they grow that?

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So let's take the example of their own online store.

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They already have their own online store.

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Great.

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Okay.

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So knowing what to do to grow that online store.

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Is it's going to be growing that online store by making those products available, by growing

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their assortment or is it going to be by investing a lot in, in, in, in, marketing

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for example, or that's one, one route, but they can also think, okay, I have all

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this I have this, all this online operation already going and already well set up.

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I have all this stock that I'm selling in, in online channels.

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Where do I want to grow?

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Do I want to go to to through an integrator to other marketplaces?

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Do I want to go do I want to become a marketplace?

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Like, do I want to start doing dropshipping at, is my technology ready for that?

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Looking for other technologies that complement their platform and that may open up both

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doors to them to become a marketplace and to connect to other marketplaces.

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So really exploring the, the

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available range of, of platforms it's that are out there and that open those doors to them.

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But having.

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Yeah, I was gonna say, I like the idea of kind of deciding, am I wanting to expand my

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inventory or am I wanting to expand my reach?

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You know, am I trying to get my current inventory out there more?

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Do I want to join, multiple marketplaces.

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Am I wanting to spend more specifically on marketing?

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So kind of making your decision on your next step.

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And then it seems to me at this stage, technology and automation is going to

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become even more critical as we get into that omnichannel kind of experience.

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What, I guess, recommendations do you have around technology and automation?

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I think especially when it comes to kind of creating a similar customer experience online

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as in your actual brick and mortar store.

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Absolutely.

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The point around tech groundbreaking technology innovations like

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artificial intelligence machine learning incorporating that into your into your

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into your channels both online and offline.

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I think that is absolutely important when you're looking to grow your your operation.

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I think you can.

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You can already see that it's playing in not only the not only you're optimizing your supply chain.

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So through inventory management, automations making sure you have, for example, real

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time stock updates throughout your entire supply chain, or you have the ability to and

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automate drop shipping to your to your vendors so that they have they can become more

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and more efficient in supplying your orders.

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And you can provide a better service to your to your customers.

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But also automating processes through robotic robotic task automation for any in your in

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this really helps your customer service teams to provide better and better service because

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they can focus, they can shift their focus from routine daily tasks to strategical and, and

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more complex tasks.

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So using all of using, knowing the technology, knowing where to implement that technology

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and, and then following through with monetization and and measuring results.

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That's, I think that's, right now, that's key to sustainable growth across any online platform.

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Filipa, as we get into this kind of larger, you've grown a little bit with

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your online presence, how does automation and technology become even more important?

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And I guess, what kind of specific areas do you feel like retailers should

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focus on automating at this point?

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The first thing that, that comes to mind is the increasing importance of

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profitability before the market the investor, the investor, our, sorry, before investors

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were looking for growth, rapid growth.

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So companies were focusing on showing that growth investing a lot of resources, people

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technology as well into showing that growth.

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And there's been a shift lately in the, in, in, in

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in the market to look for profitability more than rapid growth.

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And that's, I think, where, technology and groundbreaking innovations like AI,

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machine learning really come into place.

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These solutions are key to helping you optimize your operations achieve cost efficiency by

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making what were before routine tasks, tasks that that required manual work but they

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were quite simple, straightforward rule based.

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Making, to putting to using technology to, to perform those tasks instead

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of having a resource, a person there.

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So you have you, you have opportunities to do this, this across your, your entire

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supply chain and your entire fulfillment operations, like with inventory management

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Inventory syncing order order processing return processing.

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There's a lot of manual tasks that before companies had to do, and now they can

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they can implement robotic process automation that will do that for them.

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And they can free up those resources to focus in other things.

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They're both improving the customer experience because they're becoming more competitive

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in their in their processing times, for example, or in the regarding stock in

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their, they're really minimizing their, their no stocks and out of stock sales.

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But also you see that in customer service, you have leaner and leaner customer service

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teams that are focusing in delivering value.

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They're delivering value because they're using their skill set to perform complex

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and strategic tasks rather than manual and, and routine and rule based tasks.

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I loved, I kind of had an aha light bulb moment there where, because we're talking growth and

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I'm always talking scaling, growing, growing, growing, and you said something so cool.

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You said.

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Look for opportunities for profitability growth, not just overall growth.

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And I think that's huge, Filipa.

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So often we are, we're taking technology around everything.

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Okay, time to grow.

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That means more inventory, more storefronts, more.

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No, we could just be finding ways to become more efficient.

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As you mentioned, improving using automation to get rid of all those inefficiencies and

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optimization and customer support and stock outs and all of that, where growth can

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actually just be a growth of your bottom line.

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Which is actually a reduction of all of that waste.

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So I just thought that was so cool.

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Yeah, it's, it's, it's becoming, I feel like the conversations around where,

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like you were saying, where to grow, what, where to go, where to grow, what to do,

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how to become more and more competitive.

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I think technology plays a huge role there.

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And and coming from a, so slightly biased opinion, coming from a platform

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that that focuses exactly on that, on, on creating a solutions composable solutions.

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So something that you can build as you go and that you can select, pick and choose what

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makes sense to your, to your operation and not.

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And having that, having those having technology provide and opening those

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doors to you and connecting you and your business and, and, and your partner's stock

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and just creating that network and that symbiosis between all of the stakeholders.

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It's really, it's, it's been really exciting to, to, to witness and to contribute to.

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Filipa, let's talk, we're out of time.

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And so I want to hear, though, a little bit about Onport.

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You mentioned, you know, having a little bias because you love being a

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part of this company and what they do.

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So for our audience, for our listeners who don't know who Onport is what is Onport?

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What kind of services do you provide?

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Yes.

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Thank you for asking that.

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So Onport, we are in the ecommerce marketplace and drop shipping platform.

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We're powering companies to leverage their marketplace and drop shipping models with

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next generation, composable technology.

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Composable I, as I was saying before, it's, you can build on, you can build on, on top of it.

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You can pick and choose what you want to leverage on and what you want to hold off on,

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and then you can make that decision later on.

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You can make that decision from the get go.

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So it's, providing that that service to, to our customers through more than 35 prebuilt

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integrations with third party with third party apps, third party providers and through

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more than 3000 API endpoints that we support.

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So you can either choose to use our beautiful products and the capabilities and features

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that it already offers, or you can choose to use our range of APIs and build on top of it.

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So Filipa you know, my friend Stacy, for instance, can she access it?

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She's in the Dallas, Texas area.

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You know, is it global?

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Obviously you're in Portugal.

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How does that work?

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Yes, we, I'm in Portugal.

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We're a fully remote company.

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So our, our team is scattered across the globe.

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We do have several customers in the U.S.

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We support customers in the U.S.

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So yes, she can absolutely contact us, have a chat with us and see if this would be

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a platform that would serve her needs in case she wanted to bring her business online.

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Either, either through, well, the most direct option, I would say the most obvious one would

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be by converting into her online channel into a marketplace since she has a multi brand boutique.

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Or to understand how she can connect with other marketplaces.

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We can also help with that.

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So, yes, that's that would be a yes.

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Okay, so how do people connect with you personally?

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So, you know, are you on LinkedIn or something if they wanted to follow you

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or just have questions for you about moving from brick and mortar to ecommerce?

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How would they connect with you personally?

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And also how would they learn about Onport?

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Where can they connect with Onport?

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So I would suggest that I'm absolutely available to to answer any of those questions.

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And so please feel free to find me on LinkedIn and shoot me a message

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and I'll be happy to to support.

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They can find a lot more information on our website.

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That's www.onport.com.

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There's also available channels on our websites to contact us.

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So, in case you're looking for a demo or just a chat to understand if that's, if it would

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be a good fit with your, with your business.

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Please do contact us, reach out.

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We're available to help and to, and to help you figure all of this out.

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Awesome.

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This has been just a really great conversation.

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I think that there are so many of those, especially kind of smaller businesses

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who are scared of this move to ecommerce.

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And so that's just a wealth of information.

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Really appreciate you today.

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Thank you so much for being here.

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And we'll be excited to talk to you soon.

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Thank you, Lori.

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The pleasure was mine.

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It was great talking to you and I'm looking forward to speaking soon.

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Perfect.

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See you, everyone.

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Bye bye.

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