How a learning disability can be a gift. Join Joshua Maddux has he talks with Andrew Calderella this week on In The Bunker Podcast.

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Bio: Andrew was born in Detroit, Michigan, in 1966 to parents fighting for the civil rights movement. His life is a combination of The Rocky Story, Think and Grow Rich, & The Celestine Prophecy on Steroids! He has been through so many harrowing and intense situations that those stories alone could fill volumes. He has overcome dyslexia, other learning disabilities, being legally blind in one eye, and being bullied to become a school leader, athlete and attain university degrees in Speech & Communications, Religious Studies, and Eastern Philosophy. He has lived overseas, traveled the world, is a martial artist, yogi, and what many call a health and fitness fanatic. He is a serial entrepreneur and has run a successful strategic consulting firm for over 20 years. He is the creator of The 7th Foundation, The One Show, The One Tribe, One Movement, One Party, and the bestselling author of The Way, 7 Revolutionary Steps to Living a Meaningful Life & Making a Real Difference in the World.

Andrew is an inspirational speaker, trainer, and coach who specializes in helping everyone be their best in all areas of life while making a more significant positive impact in our world. He is helping some of our world’s leading movers and shakers and will influence many more in the years to come.

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Welcome back to in the bunker.

Every business owner has faced so many challenges and we

love to share those stories.

Today.

We have Andrew called on the show with us.

Andrew, like many of us has been faced with multiple challenges before

the show we were chatting and really trying to narrow down to just one.

And we could, so this episode's going to be a little bit different and we're going

to dive into a few different ones and touch on touch on a few different topics.

Andrew's got over 20 plus years of experience in running a business.

And apart from, you know, running that business, Andrew's got to best

his best-selling author along with other accolades that he's going

to dive into in just a second.

So let's welcome Andrew to the show.

Joshua, thank you so much for having me on your show and

thank you everybody for joining us.

I appreciate you being here.

Let's dive in and let's get to know you a little bit.

Who are you?

How'd you get here?

What do you do?

Sure.

Start this, they always want me to kind of start at the beginning.

So I'll, I'll do that.

And I'm saying this because obviously you get to know me, but realize

there's no competition between us.

This is more just to get to know me and we all have our challenges to overcome.

And I appreciate you saying my name called Darella.

You did it well, I appreciate that.

I was born in Detroit, Michigan in 19 66, 2 parents fighting

for the civil rights movement.

I was born with dyslexia, other learning disabilities and a lazy eye.

The lazy eye meant I was seeing 2200 vision through that.

They actually put a patch over my good eye to make me look out of that bad eyes.

So I would help strengthen it needless to say, I didn't do well in school.

I was bullied relentlessly called stupid every day.

Teachers even got into it at one teacher, ridicule me in front of the class, telling

me I should just quit now and leave.

So needlessly.

It was really, really difficult with some help of some special people.

My mom, special teacher.

I was able to graduate from elementary school, went on to high school, actually

came out of my shell, became a school leader was on track cross country.

Went on to college, got degrees in speech communications, theology, and philosophy

was on the crew, which is the rowing team.

And was elected programming commissioner for a little while after college.

I really, I got a job in Japan right after college and I.

Lived there for about three years, traveled around the world, start to

start businesses all over the place.

I've started businesses since I was a kid, just, you know, since I was in

elementary school all the way through and started consulting ACE in 1999 and

was hit by a car shortly thereafter had to grow this business literally

out of my bed, broken in, in pain.

All this was going on.

I also was on this larger mission since I was a kid to try to figure out these

answers to why the world is so messed up.

You know, how we can all be our best and fix our world.

After 30 years of work, I finally got my first book of three out

there, all written at the same time.

It's just the first ones out right now.

Just got it out.

And so here I am right now, I've got the book out and building a tribe.

I've been on all these shows.

We have a foundation we're starting, trying to sh share

this message with the world.

And as you may know, after you've worked on something for a long time,

How to explain it to everybody, to where they understand it and can get

to it and make it easily accessible is really quite the challenge.

So hopefully that gives you a little idea of where I am and who I am.

Yeah, that's really good.

And I know just in that intro alone, there.

You know, the half a dozen challenges, so to speak, we can dive into, I know,

you mentioned dyslexia and I struggled with that with myself and, going

through college at a college counselor that straight up said with dyslexia,

you will never graduate from college.

And it's just the aspect for me.

From an education standpoint of having an educator, having someone

and my wife is an educator and, she's an awesome, what she does.

And I think there are some people in the education field and some people

in not even just education, just counseling and mentorship and whatever

that is that sort of potentially stifle that growth in you'll never

amount to anything rather than.

Here's three things we can try to overcome this.

I would love to talk about this for a second because yeah.

This is really, really important.

And this is kind of what helped me get through this.

Luckily, I had a parent and people that did have knowledge, most of the

greatest leaders in the world that we've ever had have some type of what

we call learning disability, learning disabilities often come with gifts.

I was given great gifts.

I didn't realize that until I was later, but I tested out as a genius in abstract

thinking and these other areas I can do and see things that other people can't.

And just cause I can't remember strings of numbers or math problems and things like

that doesn't mean we're not intelligent.

So what I found is when you have these kids, it's to figure out how

you can teach them so they can learn.

And when I say that is really important because it's more

important to teach a child how they can overcome their disability than

to hammer in what they cannot do.

Right.

And just to give you an idea of spelling, I.

Could never spell, even if I knew how to spell the word, for some

reason, I would just do it wrong.

You know what I mean?

It was just impossible for me to do it.

Right.

No matter how many times I did it, I mean, I could do it right three

times and then four times wrong.

So there's something going on there.

What was more key is to teach.

To recognize that this was happening and to, to how to look it up and

find the answers that I needed.

You know what I mean, how to spell the word, how to compensate

for these difficulties?

Because what you'll find is if you teach the kids how to compensate for them and

give them a little bit of a break on the things they can't do well, you can find

their gifts and then help bring those out.

And that will allow these children to amaze you because there's so many.

Artists and thinkers and out of the box, you know, people out there that can do

great things for us if we just help them.

So I think that's a, I think for educators to realize is these differences

in mind don't make you stupid.

It just means your mind works a little differently.

Mine works in pictures instead of remembering strings of numbers.

You know what I mean?

My, my mind works in stories instead of this linear memorization way.

So it doesn't make it bad.

Right.

Just makes it different.

And once you're able to reach that kid, you can bring out their abilities and

that's more important than anything.

So let's not, let's not write anybody off for God's sake.

You never know how far people will go.

Yeah.

It's super true.

If you've never seen.

No.

If someone who's listening, if you've never seen what it's like for someone

who has dyslexia to read I would highly encourage you to go to Google and type

in what it's like to read with dyslexia.

There are websites that will show you literally, as Andrew's describing,

like trying to spell a word.

The letters will actually jump back and forth and switch places.

And so trying to read a paragraph with that is incredibly crazy.

And then if you add on top of that with these other things,

like, I can't remember all the words for these things, but when I was a kid, it

was like, everything was dyslexia, but you have the other things where it's like,

you can, you can see one thing and your mind will make it into something else.

I remember taking tests and they were like, why are you telling

us this is about airplanes.

That's what the whole story was about.

And I'm like, no, it was not about airplanes at all.

It was about, I can't remember what it was.

There's something else that started with an a, but for some reason,

as my kid, Mike was reading this, I didn't know what that word was.

So the whole story was about airplanes.

It was like, yeah, I guess you didn't really make sense.

You know?

So it is, it's a challenge, but this is, this is part of thing.

When I was a kid, I was also had a patch over mine.

So I couldn't see.

So I had dyslexia and these other things and everything became.

Kind of a nightmare out there.

I had nightmares of not being able to see in bullies, you know, throwing

me in trash cans or stripping you down or just hitting you or you

laughing at you and all this stuff.

And it became a I don't want to say like, like my own inner world was

my safety net and everything outside was kind of a nightmare, you know?

And it was as a kid, you know, when you think all bullies, you know, it's

no big deal, whatever it is, a big.

You know what I mean?

You, you are making somebody's life so much more difficult

than it already needs to be.

And these bullies need correcting.

I just want to say this.

I'm not that how to stop bullying is in the, in the third book,

I'm going to be doing video.

But it's about us calling out these bullies and making them apologize and

feeling this empathy and sympathy and regret, and that will help them grow.

And you can do this very easily as a child by making them, you know,

confront the person they're bullying, doing it in front of people and showing

them the feelings like this idea of treating others as you want to be

treated, which is one of the laws within the way of how we can fix ourselves.

Just that alone, treating people as equals.

Treating people as you want to be treated and respecting life,

those three principles alone could save the world, could fix most

of the problems in our society.

And we need to integrate that into our children.

You know, ingrain that, thinking into them like what I want

to be having this done to me.

Am I doing to others as I would want them do to me?

How would you feel if that was being done to you?

You know what I mean?

These are the kinds of thought processes that we need to have our children start

to do, because that will bring empathy is like, no, I wouldn't want to be thrown

into a trashcan, you know, who wants that?

So, I think to fix our world, this is only reason I'm here.

And I wrote this book and everything else is because I found something that.

A game-changer and I'm not just saying that I've shown this to people.

I would not have done this, you know, being, take me three hours

to write just a few sentences.

Sometimes they haven't make sense.

So this was before.

I found solutions to the greatest problems facing us.

And I've showed this to hundreds and hundreds of people

and everybody agrees right.

That this is the solution.

So this next step is to get this out there, to get funding so we

can make it a household name, information, that kind of stuff.

That makes sense.

Probably just went off there.

No, that's good.

Yeah.

And I think, you know, it's the aspect of having someone walk a mile in your shoes.

And I think that's really where with bullies with, you know, and,

and bullies can be in school.

Bullies can be, in our society or in, you know, You know, the ridiculousness of

fights happening at theme parks right now, because someone got too close to someone

or accidentally bumped their shoulder and someone threw a punch because someone

bumped into them barely like accidentally.

It's just, it's crazy.

Because we, as human beings, don't really know how to be.

We really aren't given a cohesive holistic way to deal with our emotions, our

physical, mental, spiritual life, our financial life, and all the, all these

pieces add up to make a whole human being.

And the problem is it's all fragmented.

So that guy that's throwing that punch, right?

He's he's buttons have been pushed to the point where he's lost

control, which the human conditions under which we live, force us into.

One of these circumstances of self control to see if you can manage yourself.

And this is one of the aspects that we can teach our kids.

Right?

If you teach your children's self-control aspects as children, that

guy wouldn't be throwing that punch.

He would know that he's, he's being activated and he's getting close to his

breaking point and he can go do some exercises mentally to calm himself down.

So he doesn't do those things.

Yeah.

You know, bullies do graduate and go on a lot of times a personality

men, if they're not raised correctly, instead of being coming protectors

and good people, they become these bullies and dominating and crushing.

And you know, they think that's the way a lot of wealthy families

teach their children that they are somehow special and deserving.

So they look down on everybody and treat people with disregard and

disrespect as part of their life.

You know what I mean?

This, this is what we see throughout all of human history.

This idea of Kings stuffing, their houses with gold, why

their citizens are starving.

You know, this, this self-righteous kind of sickness that is infected humanity.

Some people call it the original sin.

This idea of, you know, are we good people or bad people?

Are we falling for the light side or dark side?

You know, verse vice versa, virtue right versus wrong.

These are the reality.

Right.

This is not some movie, right?

This is you acting this out every single day as a business

owner, we're in a business show.

Are you treating your employees with respect or are they able

to live wonderful lives because of the the work that they do?

You know what I mean?

If you have people suffering because of your work that they spend their life at,

you know, they're their most productive hours of their day and they can't even

feed their families or they're living in poverty on having to go on food stamps.

You're stressing out the government, not helping the society in which you

live businesses about solving problems.

Fundamentally that's it.

And the biggest problems that you're working to solve is not only your product,

but your your employees, your business, everybody in that company matters equally.

Otherwise the business wouldn't exist.

And the same thing with the environment, if you're just dumping

and destroying the world, you're a parasite, you know, you're not helping.

So you've got to solve all of these problems.

It's so true.

Yeah.

There's, there's so much, if you like, just with that one topic that we can, we

can dive into for the next four hours.

Exactly.

Let's go, man.

I'm up?

Yeah, no.

Yeah, but looking at some of the businesses that you started and ran and

talking through some of the challenges that those businesses have faced.

What does that look like?

Well, let's start as the startup because I started businesses.

Like I said, when I was in elementary school, just quickly tell you that when

I quick, funny story, I was actually buying cards off the ice cream man trucks.

And selling them in school.

And I kept taking all the kids lunch money and after weeks and weeks of

this, but principal calls my parents and tells me to stop because these

kids aren't eating lunch because I didn't give them extra money.

But so I've always been kind of, we did like little shows here in our

neighbor's yard, like a movement park and all sorts of things.

When I was a kid, then I started another business.

When I was in college, my brother stealing cars to the Naval academies that got

crushed by all the local dealerships and.

And whatnot.

So anyway, so I've started all these companies.

I've worked for so many different businesses.

I've helped build companies as a recruiter.

One of the first things let's talk about is this idea of a startup.

Everybody wants to have their own business, which I get.

There's a difference between running a business.

And having a cool idea or, or being a product person or

even a service person, right.

Running a business means you gotta, you gotta be into the business.

Meaning you've got to know every aspect of this, the financing, the marketing,

the, you know, the actual setup, the employee handbook, the legal aspect.

You know what I mean?

You.

Focused on, on doing the business telecom.

You know what I mean?

You're going to be setting up phone systems.

You're going to be doing.

And as a business owner, my advice is you have to know all of this to some

degree, you have to walk those shoes, understand what that people that even

if you hire them later to take care of it are doing otherwise, you're

not going to be able to manage them.

You're not going to even know that if you're relying on

business people to just tell you.

I'm doing this fine.

And you have no idea what they're really doing.

They're not really running a business.

You're hoping that all these people are going to do something for you.

And then if you lose that guy you know what I mean?

Someone's got to come in and figure out what he was doing and all that.

It's not going to work.

So as far as the startup goes, you have to understand who is the product

guy, who are the people that are going to be helping you run the.

And it may be you're the one man show.

So you gotta be able to, to run all of these different aspects when you're

starting and then kind of grow in and bring people in as you do it.

And just the key thing on this, on a startup.

The people that you're looking for this most successful artists I've

ever seen are the ones that have people that are fully into the thing.

Like they're, they're coming in and they're like, yeah, you

don't have this great idea about this improvement to this design.

And you know, this aspect of the specimen.

And they're all sitting there talking about that.

It's not the guys who are like, yeah, man, we're going to make so much money.

I can't wait to buy my Lamborghini.

Oh.

I went out and party last night.

I'm so excited.

You know, I want more of a share of the company.

I deserve it.

You know what I mean?

It's a nightmare.

Okay.

It's going to explode.

Okay.

Because that person is never going to work.

They're going to be wanting to hang out on the beach.

You want the guys that are into the product and knows that and making the

business work as the primary focus and everything else comes as a, you know, as

a blessing on top of all your great work.

Does that make sense?

Yeah, it does.

Yeah.

And I think, you know, to add to that, the aspect of.

Knowing every element of the business is very much the premise behind

like shows like undercover boss.

And if the owner of a company there's there's a fast food company a burger shop.

And I cannot remember the name of it right now, but they start

doesn't matter who they hire.

They start them in the kitchen.

So they hire a new VP of marketing and corporate, and that guy gets to

spend a week washing dishes, and then he gets to spend a week as a fry cook

and then a week running the register.

And then he's allowed to go to corporate start his corporate job.

And so, but when COVID hit, guess what?

That company did.

All the executives.

Who was working from home when they couldn't hire employees to

run the drive-through, all those executives said, I'd go work two

days a week running a drive-thru.

I can cook fries.

I know how to do that.

I've been trained.

Exactly.

So now they fill the gaps because they have the training.

They understand that now obviously that's one specific business model, but I think

that's, you know, that's what you're talking about is no one in the business.

You can jump in.

When a position opens up.

like let's talk about on a higher level of code.

I deal with code a lot.

Want to start a business with a code?

I'm not a coder, but I learned all the different ideas and the idea of how

code works, the different languages.

And in theory, So that when I went in and I had conversations with the non-tech

people and the tech people, I could understand what the hell they were saying.

And this is really important because if you're building something in, let's say

Ruby on rails and you lose your designer.

And there's a very few good people in the pool that you can pull from.

It can really destroy your business right there, because now you're

sitting there trying to find new Ruby programmers and you can't because

they're all hired or they cost a million dollars or whatever it makes.

Whereas, if you coded in PHP or some other universal language, you would

have millions of people to choose from.

So what I'm saying to you is like not only you don't

necessarily have to be the coder.

Though, like I said, I did a little bit of that just to understand what

they're doing and then how do you.

I don't want to say, like, the theory is really important because

like, can you, ModuLite your code?

Can you you know, what am I say?

Make comments on the code because not everybody codes the same, same

coder can do something at two lines.

This guy does it in 10.

He puts this block down here.

The other one puts it up here.

If they don't notice, note what they're doing, if you lose that.

Somebody comes back in and looking at the code, it can take them literally

months to figure out how this is working because this other guy's mind

works totally different than this guy.

So, you know what I mean?

This is what I mean.

It's like knowing your business doesn't mean you have to know literally how to do

it, but you need to know how to make it work and how things kind of fit together.

I've seen the same thing in manufacturing, plastics business, whatever it may be.

If you don't understand the process.

That the thing needs to go through.

You won't know if the guy's telling you is right or wrong.

When they make a mistake.

So many businesses I've found that the employees are just fucking

up and they make it sound like, oh, it's some thing or whatever.

And they're telling the boss, I'm like, no, that is bullshit.

Excuse my language.

But you know what I mean?

It's like, they're just covering their ass because they don't know

how to run the cooling machine.

You know what I mean?

They haven't set the settings or whatever it may be.

That's what I'm trying to say to you.

You have to understand how the flow of your business works.

Talk to people that aren't in your company.

The most beautiful thing you can do as a new business owner is

find people that are doing this right, and just have conversations.

Yeah.

Ask him about all the details of how they made this work.

You know, what are those, what are the problems like you're doing with me?

It's like, so whatever business it is, find a successful business,

find the VP, find the guy who's running the engineering.

Hey, can you just tell me, just answer a few questions.

What do you look for when you're building out this code?

Oh, I look for a, B, C, and D you know what I'm when I'm

interviewing or whatever, maybe that give you some insight.

We'll in that element with that.

if you throw out a project, a bid and you say, Hey, I want, you

know, this is what we want to do.

And you get five bids back and one's at 100,000, one's 80,000.

One's at 75,000 and one's at $20,000 and you're like, sweet.

We're going with the $20,000 one.

But for my company, you know, we're a digital agency and we've

seen projects that have gone.

To developers who have no idea what they're doing, who are just copying and

pasting random chunks of code together to string things together, to get them work.

And what a good developer would have done in 10 lines took this

developer 150 lines of code, which means massive inefficiencies.

You know exactly what I'm talking about.

And the problem is something broke

six months down the line and.

We were called in to, Hey, can you take a look to fix this?

And we were one of those higher bids and we told them no because

it's going to probably cost you three times what it would have

for us to do it right to fix it.

I've seen schools collapsed because

the builders didn't do that.

You know, they, they scrimped on whatever.

So branch

in Florida that was at the college or whatever

that fell over.

Yeah.

And the other building there, I mean, they, they kept seeing that it had cracks

and issues, but they didn't say anything.

Well, and I think the challenge is honestly, as a, as a

business owner, It's hard for you to distinguish between someone who's taking

advantage of your business and someone who's trying to do the right thing.

Let me give you some advice on that.

And what I found is especially when you're starting a business, you can sometimes

find strategic partnerships where you can share some amount of profits for success.

And this is important in the beginning because if you don't have the money

to hire somebody like yourself, right.

And it may be more expensive, but you know, you're the right guy.

What I did is I go, what if we make it.

Okay, I'll give you profits for, you know, 10 years.

We'll share profits.

If you believe in what I'm doing obviously you have to see everything

that we then share profits.

And I can't tell you how many times I have had developers do things for me.

With that payday in mind, it can be even sales.

It can be developers.

It can be all sorts of, of, I remember in the beginning of one of my ventures,

I was like, I can't pay a sales guy.

So I just said full full Yeah, full commission, but I did it over

like the lifetime of the client.

It was like, Hey man, you've given me this guy and we have them for 10 years.

You get paid every single month for 10 years.

You know what I'm saying?

So he had a vested interest of helping us out once in a while to

keep the clients and all the rest, same thing with the developers.

You know what I mean?

Hey, you helped us code this out.

We do a good job in this thing launches and they're obviously not have a vested

interest in making it work, so they're not going to slip it on the code.

So anyway, that's a, that's also a good way to.

Bootstrap your business, and then you got people that are working for the payday.

And again, so they're not just collecting the check right now.

They're there.

They want this to work.

So it'll be take that extra mile for you.

Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely.

Well, that's a big thing with me is part of why I started the agency was

the fact that there was a handful of local companies that were.

Just grabbing money.

There was a company locally that would charge something like $2,000

as a website launch fee was a hidden fee in their contract.

That was like, oh, you paid all this money to build a website.

Oh, we charge you two grand a launch it like, if you want it to

actually put it live, it's $2,000.

Oh, I know people that have in their

contracts where you don't own any.

Like they, they own it all and you're licensing it.

And if they get to use it forever, they want, I mean, it's just crazy,

all the, all this stuff out there.

And this is what I mean about corruption and about businesses

being out there to solve problems.

If you are out solely to make money, you should not be in business in

my opinion, because you're doing it for the wrong reasons, right?

If you want to help this business become a better business.

Then that's a whole other deal.

You know what I'm saying?

If you, if you're just, I know so many business owners are so many people,

a wealthy people, especially that are into making more and more money.

And I, and when I talk to them, I go, is this bringing you happiness?

And they're like, well, I have to work more at a higher, more, I'm

grinding more on, you know, I'm getting more out of my business.

And I talked to him.

Yeah.

So you moved your.

Business off shore.

Now you're paying people, sub life wages and dumping stuff in rivers.

And you now bought another house.

You already have 12 and you stuffed it with all this stuff.

How is that helping the world?

You know what I'm saying?

I mean, how is this helping anybody?

You know, some people get mad at me when I say these things, but this is the idea.

This is where people get lost.

And the idea of success is not well powered.

Right.

Those are temptations and roles and things that happen to you in

your life that you have to manage.

Otherwise it can corrupt you.

They always say that, right?

If a absolute power corrupts, absolutely well power and fame, and

sometimes intelligence and beauty can corrupt you and make you think.

Somehow superior and deserving and all those lowly people need

to be living horrible lives because that's what they deserve.

No, nobody deserves that.

If you were in their shoes, you would not feel that way.

Right.

It's not right for you and your kids.

It's not right for anybody in their kids.

So the whole idea here is for the halves to not become indolent, to sit

around and think, oh, I made it now I can just cop out of life and stuff.

My house with gold.

It's like, no.

Now that you're in the position of power and ability to affect

people's lives, you need to take responsibility and do the right thing.

Right?

So if you're, if you're paying people responsibly so they can take care of their

family, send them to school, buy healthy food, get educated, you know what I mean?

You're adding to the society.

So hopefully

that makes sense.

Yeah, it does.

Yeah, it's, it's crazy.

And, and businesses, like you said, if you're in business to just make

money and not help people making money as a by-product of doing a

good job and helping people succeed.

And that's like, that's in my book right here.

Profits are the six market of your success of doing the good job.

Right.

That's something for me.

I have had salespeople in the past and for us it's mission before

commission, like if you're selling a project just to make a commission,

then no, like you're not getting that.

And we'll both void the contract.

We'll turn the client down.

Like, I don't want projects that we don't believe in that we don't.

No, without a shadow of a doubt that we will make that client more successful

by completing it, because at the end of the day for us, most of our

business is referral based, based upon the aspect of we've got clients that

we've doubled, tripled, quadrupled their business, and we've got landing

pages and campaigns that we've done.

We get a 40% conversion rate on a landing page from a cold ad.

And so it's like, that's the type of stuff that we want for our clients to get.

And if we're just looking to make a buck, then we're going to have a

bunch of really bad Yelp reviews, really bad Google reviews, and

we're not going to get new business.

Which means our runway of being in business is going to become very

short and it's going to be very hard to get new business, which means.

We're going to want to do everything in our power to keep that business,

which means we're going to become slimy and do things like we own all

your digital assets or we own all your intellectual property or that

stupid junk that other companies do.

And that's why those companies do that because they've realized that

their customer service and their sales team is selling the wrong thing.

Well, I think there's a lot of desperation in the world.

So there's a lot of people that have started businesses out of desperation.

So it's not, and they do need the money to live.

They w they would probably be, be happy working for a business, but

because of the way our society is structured, it's not designed to help

the have nots become halves know.

It's like if you live in a poor place in this world the

odds of you staying poor are.

You know what I mean in America, it's a little bit better, but at the same time,

if you don't have the right education, the right environment, the right nutrients,

just to feed your body correctly.

So your mind grows and your body grows.

You're never going to be as intelligent and as fit and healthy as you could

be as if you had those things.

So.

Our super rich, the idea of capitalism is wonderful, but it's

when it becomes corrupted as we want, it becomes a detriment, right?

It's like the idea of competition.

Right?

You can think about it like a race.

If you go to a competition there's rules, right?

You go there.

You can't poison the people.

You're not on steroids.

You're not tripping people in the race.

I mean, there's whole bunch of rules before and after you got

to follow, but there's people that are, will cheat, right?

They'll, they'll call the team before the night, you know, and make them tired.

So their poison, their food, they, you know what I mean?

They'll do something to make themselves when they'll cheat.

And this idea of competition taken too far is like winning at all costs.

And that's what the, the idea of capitalism taken too far is like, I

have to go after every single dollar.

And if you start then taking away from people, so they can't live nice

lives, you're destroying the planet.

You know what I mean?

You're, you're creating misinformation to stop people from

understanding your destruction.

You're on the dark side, you've literally are participating in evil.

And a lot of people think, but I'm doing good, man.

I'm hiring all these people.

They should be thankful.

They're thankful they have jobs.

Yes.

But they're also living horrible lives because you're not paying them enough.

You know, any employee that's working for a multi-billion dollar

corporation like Walmart or Amazon, it has to be on food stamps.

It can't send their kids to college and can't take a vacation.

I mean, they're sick.

They lose their job.

This is ridiculous.

You know what I mean?

If you're it that is literally you're stealing money from your employees.

I mean, Walmart is the walls.

They, they opened up a multi-billion dollar museum.

They stuffing it with art instead of paying their employees

enough to live a decent life.

You know what I'm saying?

It's like a, you go back in history, you see this corruption of people all

the way through any Andrew Carnegie and The other mobiles in the 19th

century, I was like, Hey, just grab people, destroy the world as quickly as

possible until the government went in.

Like, okay, look, you literally have to stop.

Right.

I mean, we can't, you can't be having people's arms ripped off every single

day and throwing them out in the street.

I mean, that's not okay.

So anyway, I just go off on this.

I mean, this is the biggest problem in the world, right?

We repeat, we do not treat people like we want to be treated and

as equals, we do not treat people with respect or this world.

And if we just did those two things, it would solve most of the problems in all

of our worlds, because he wouldn't need as much government because people are getting

paid and they can buy their own stuff.

Right.

If you give a good education, you give away out of these hell holes

that people are living in and create a better world, rip down those

places and build something nice.

You know, I mean, you can have the money.

We have all the power and wealth.

Nobody wants all this horrible stuff.

There's not one person I've ever talked to that wants pollution and did

functional government harmful businesses.

You know what I mean?

Everybody wants the same stuff.

The only thing that's stopping us are a very few wealthy people

that are empowered, that you not understand the basic principles

that I cover within the way.

And neither does most of humanity.

This is new.

So, you know, my whole thing is like, we're going to.

We just get on the same page when it comes to some of these foundations

of life, joined together within a few organizations to peacefully

force, positive change in the world.

We could do all of this in a few years.

It wouldn't even take that much with all the people.

We have few dollars from a billion people goes a long way.

Yeah, it

does.

I saw, I saw a quote the other day that was talking about, you

know, there's a difference between.

Large corporations that have CEO's that make just ridiculous amounts of money.

And you know, I I've seen these, these elements of like, oh, this,

you know, CEO should give up half their salary and pay it to employees.

And although I agree with that, I also think we also need to look at

those numbers because the one that I saw was, you know, oh, the CEO of

Starbucks makes $15 million a year.

He needs to, you know, take some of that and give it back to,

you know, some of the employees.

And if he gave his whole entire salary, he just took the whole

thing and just turned it around and gave it to all 350,000 employees.

It's not even close to enough.

They get 40 bucks.

Yeah, on an hour, not a day, not a month, $40 a year.

And so it's like, to

me, it's not about that.

If you look at Starbucks and a lot of these other companies, it's the

profit, the total profit that you make, forget the salaries for a second.

If you look at profit is money extra.

After you have paid your employees after you've played all your

expenses and all this stuff, right?

So what you're claiming is profit is not profit.

It is.

Taken from your employees lives, right?

It's taken from you using this harmful plastic product and instead of a natural

wine or dumping in the river, instead of, you know, whatever it may be.

So you have to look at the profit first and say, is that real?

Is it legit?

Or is it exploitative profits?

Right.

Oh, we're cutting down rainforests and dumping in the river and

paying our people 30 cents a week.

In India, you know, and they're living in hell, you know what I'm saying?

It's like, and we made a hundred billion dollars in profit.

It's like, no, you rape the world and destroy these people's lives

and are saying that that's profit.

That is not profit.

You're a liar.

You're a destructive business.

And you're claiming like, Right.

This is we, we, as a consciousness, as a humanity, as a, as a species have

got to just wake up and embrace some of these higher values that we all want,

who wants a world of poison death.

Well, and that's where, and that's where you get business owners.

Like the guy, the K-cup, the little reuse or the, those single use coffee cup

Keurig that everybody has on the counter.

Now, the guy who invented that invented it with the aspect of.

Each homo, like having it in the home, but using one or two, like using one or two a

week, the problem is the average household will do 20 or 30 of those in a given week.

And he sold the company.

And has spent literally his earnings from selling the company, suing the company to

make them make one that's biodegradable and will be recyclable because he's

realized how terrible his invention.

Then you bring it a point.

You get me so motivated here.

Cause it makes me so mad.

It's like as a business owner, especially if they, if you have a

product that's going to be mass consumed.

One of the keys that we have to stop using is, is Petro plastics, right?

There are other plastic alternatives.

And if it's a single use product, that's going to degrade, meaning it's.

It has an expiration date on it.

It's really easy to use these other plastic sources that are made

out of corn or soy or plant-based or whatever it is, because your

thing is going to go bad anyways.

Right.

So this thing's going to degrade and if they just took the whole thing and threw

it in the trash, the whole thing, which is the grade instead of this plastic

nightmare, nightmare we're created.

And it's, it's not okay.

You know, these, these plastic industries, if you work for one and

you're like, yeah, but I have a job.

They pay me really well.

But that, that plastic industry could easily because of the amount of

power contracts and everything else.

They have star to switch over to these other types of things, you

know, it's like, When, when cars came into play, it was like the, the buggy

makers, you know, all the course, people, they were pissed off at be

like, no, get rid of the automobile.

It's like, come on people.

We need to upgrade our society.

If you're doing something that is harmful, we can, this is our planet.

Okay.

We only have one of them.

You think we can't affect it?

You're you're living in the stone age.

We literally are affecting our planet and trees.

Billions trillions and trillions, the trees that we have cut down

over the last couple thousand years that we have not replaced.

That is half the problem.

You know what I mean?

We need, we need carbon sinks.

We need to live in a world that is thriving and healthy.

If we're going to be thriving and healthy, it's not that hard.

I mean, seriously, this world is so amazing.

You plant something in the ground, give it a little water and sun it'll grow.

You know what I mean?

You don't have to do anything.

So it'll, I mean, this world will clean our water, grow our food.

We'll do everything we need if we just work with it.

So my thing is right now, and again, it's all covered in the book and how you

can make a true business is what I call.

And have our governments work for us and not against us.

And again, it's a lot of it.

It's about making ourselves better people.

So we crowd out the bad with the good, you not going to throw shade and mud

on people and yell at people and beat up people to create a better world.

Right.

You're not, it's, it's the opposite of those things that are gonna get

us there and just quickly cause it always comes down to this.

It's like, yeah, but those people are so bad and I hate them.

If you're full of hatred.

Perpetuating the problem, right?

Violence leads to violence.

Hatred leads to hatred.

The only way we're going to get there is if you can find a way to forgive.

And the only way I've seen it is to feel sorry for people, right?

Take a trial to anybody you hate and make them a baby.

And just think about the life they lived to get into that

horrible place that they are.

And if you've listened to and you learn what these people's lives

are like, sometimes you can feel.

It's like, wow.

It was abuse and all these horrible things happened to them.

And through sorry for feeling sorry, and pity, you can feel forgiveness

and you can find a way that you might want to reach out and help these

people instead of hurt these people.

And that's how we can fix our world.

It's like, like I said, with business, it's about helping people.

It's about solving problems and if you're solving the people's problems

in your business, like even just doing small things, you're like, yeah, you

can wash your laundry here in the back.

You know, we'll do these kinds of services during the afternoon here.

So you guys can, you know, get your lives, all taken care of while you're

at work, just wouldn't go home.

You can actually relax and spend time with your kids.

Instead of riding, running around like crazy, I have to do all these errands.

I have to go on my luck.

I have to do, you know, now I got to go back to work and

it's like people, I hate that.

So these people are spending their majority of their best hours of

their life all day working for you.

What do you owe these people?

I mean, these people need a life.

I mean, you, you owe them everything, right.

If you're a multi-billionaire sitting there going, yeah, I made all this money.

You made it off of these people.

So.

Give back.

I mean, you could even do super bonuses.

You could go back and find every employee that's ever worked for you after you

made it and go, here's a million dollars.

You know what I mean?

Or whatever.

I mean, y'all get unlimited trips to Disneyland, whatever.

I mean, you could do so many wonderful things for people, send all their

kids to college that would help out this world instead of just hoarding

more and more money, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah, it's really good.

I really, oh man.

There's, there's so much good that we've just talked through and so much there

that we could still just, you know, have a conversation on and we could.

But I think really, you know, the element that you sort of ended there with

was, you know, the aspect of thinking.

The people who have helped you make it, you know, as you're, as you're

growing, you know, making sure, you know, and I don't care if you're making

a billion dollars a year or, you know, $50,000 a year, you know, there's a.

Percentage base that you can, you know, send the thank you gift.

You know, whether that's a card and a Starbucks gift card, or, you

know, something to someone yeah.

Phone call.

I mean, it doesn't have to be something that is a massive, you know, dollar amount

that, you know, you have to do, but it's the element of, you know, we've got we've

got a client actually a few years ago.

They were insanely busy right around Thanksgiving.

And the owner of the company and a company meeting on Monday morning, said who's

done their Thanksgiving meal shopping.

And like one person in the room was like, yeah, I, I bought my Turkey and stuff.

And so he goes, okay.

He goes, get me your grocery list this week.

And he goes, and we will shop and deliver the food for you.

And the only.

And his wife did their grocery shopping and delivered it so awesome.

And you know, yeah, that probably costs, you know, 50 bucks to 80

bucks, a bird, you know, per employee.

And when you're grocery shopping for a dozen people all at once, you know,

it's not that exponential amount of time, but it's one of those things that

they didn't have to worry about it.

And it made it so much.

And it's appreciation.

It's those little things they add up.

Okay.

It's like, if you look at what you're doing for your life and you talk

to people, they want to be happy.

That's like at the top of everybody's list is to have happiness.

And that means to not be desperate, to not be worried, not be overworked,

to not be, you know, just run ragged.

Right.

And if you, as a business owner need to really structure your business

so that it is like, For everybody.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Not just for you living in your Highlife but for every single employee

that works for you feels valued and appreciated and has that aspect

to be able to build themselves and their family a nice, wonderful life.

I can't tell you how many people I've talked to that work full

time that are poor in the mail.

Like you're working 40, 60 hours a week and you literally cannot afford

healthy food for your four kids.

You can't, there's no way you can afford a vacation there.

They won't even give you time off for vacation.

And even if you could, you couldn't go anywhere because you have no money.

You know what I'm saying?

I mean, this is like wrong.

I mean, it's rape.

I mean, it's like if you're a business owner and you're thinking that.

That you want to help the world.

The biggest thing you can do is to, like you were saying with the, with the

craving thing, you know what I mean?

Make your product responsibly, low energy recyclable work with the earth.

Treat your.

Employees and everybody with respect, help your clients solve their problems.

You're going to be successful.

Even if you're making even every single year as a business owner, right.

You can feel more pride than the guy that like his own McDonald's or whatever, a

Walmart or Amazon, because they're raping their employees and stealing from them

and destroying the world while they're sitting around flying on spaceships.

It makes no, it's not.

Like you are literally fall into the dark side and you have no clue.

You think you're such a good person and yes, you've, you've created something

that's big and mammoth, but it is a destructive force in the world.

It's like, you know what I mean?

There's no need for it.

And people say, oh, if we raised the prices or if we pay people,

won't have to raise the prices.

No, you don't because your profits are the raping.

You know what I mean?

Okay.

I'm sorry.

I shouldn't be using that word, but the profits are too big.

You're you're taking too much from.

And from the world, those are expenses that you're claiming is profits.

And that's the problem.

So you don't need to charge more.

You can say making a billion, you can make 700 million.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

I think adjusting, adjusting that a little bit is always

a good thing, but it's crazy.

It's going to take some shifts, you know, I think from.

No

just talk about this in the book.

It's not only that it's also the public company.

I've talked about this in the book.

We rate our public companies on growth and you know, profits

growing every single quarter.

You know, I mean, if you're not growing, you're a failing business.

So when you talk to these guys, they're like behind a rock and a hard place.

Cause they're like, look, man, I have to find more.

Period.

You know what I mean?

It's like our I'm outta here and our businesses getting bad marks.

It doesn't matter if they have 80% of the market share.

They just came out with a product that two months ago that's killing it.

You know, you're that you had a bad month, you're going down.

That's got to change.

You know what I mean?

How do we rate our public companies?

And what we determine as a success has got to change.

Otherwise, all the public companies can never change because it's like,

they're like, well, if we invest, we're taking away from our profits and

then everybody's going to freak out.

Right.

So like a petrol companies, like I want to take half our profits and put

it into non Petro plastics and develop that and really get it out there.

They're like, oh, we can't do that because then it will show us making less money.

You know what I mean?

God forbid I mean, just look at inflation right now that we're

having, it's a big scam, right?

Half the businesses that are doing this are only doing it because they can have a

more overseas or just shipping companies.

They're like, Hey, you guys want to ship more?

Huh?

Well guess what?

Our rates just went up.

You know what I mean?

Like have a nice day.

They don't need to do it.

They have the ships, they have the people ready to go.

They can hire more under the current plan, but no, they raised their prices.

The same thing all the way down the line inflation is based on

the idea of corrupt capitalism.

Sometimes, you know?

Yes, you can charge more, but it doesn't mean you should.

It doesn't mean it's right.

You know what I mean?

You can charge a hundred dollars a gallon for water in a, in a place that has none.

Is that right?

Is that.

Is that cool?

You know what I mean?

Do you want to be killed for doing that?

You know what I'm saying?

I mean, this is, this is like the society we live in.

There's certain levels of money that is okay.

You know what I mean?

You don't have to make endless amounts of profit off of every moment of everything.

Education, prison systems, food systems.

I mean, there's a certain things that, that are.

Good to have money into, you know what I mean?

Like if you have a prison system that's based on profits, what do you need?

Need more prisons, prisoners.

So are you in the prisons helping these people not come back to prison and

reforming them, or you making sure that they really get messed up in prison?

So when they get out, they have no hope.

Well, and I

think, I think as a lot of people have shifted recently

over the past few years to more of.

Remote workforce and people are realizing what they value that they value the

ability to be closer to their family.

They value the ability to have time off.

They value the ability to not have a two hour, three hour commute every day.

And I feel like more and more companies are going to start to have to answer

to that and start to have to provide.

Maybe it's not someone making 20%, 30% more.

Maybe it's someone who's.

Not driving, you know, two hours to work every day.

Well, there's a lot of ways to help people out in their lives.

And I think that this, this is why this has happened right now.

Okay.

All my friends already keep telling me, this is why you showed up right now.

You have no, you know, a little bit about my life, but I've been delayed

a lot, has been attacked by dogs.

Almost lost my leg car accidents.

I couldn't walk, you know, a lot of delays just to get this information here, but.

You know, human race, just as beings as a sentience life form, we need to be

a shaken to awake and burned, to learn sometimes like you have to touch the

stove and the fire to know what's hot.

So throughout all these thousands of years that we've been developing,

we've learned a lot, and there's a lot of people that are awake right now.

And we're more connected right now than we've ever been in all of humanity.

Like we know what is right.

And what is wrong.

We can see the wrongness in our society and globally we can connect

literally, like if I could somehow get out through this bubble we could

connect a billion people, like nothing.

You know what I mean?

Like literally on my Facebook group right now, I could have a billion.

Yeah, let me just think about the power that we have that we've never

had in all of human history before you always had to answer to the man.

You know what I mean?

It was always the super rich mogul dude that was going to print the story or not.

You know what I mean?

It was like you, there was no way for you and I to have a conversation

and to get information out in the world other than there is now.

So.

I believe that this whole thing has happened so that we, as a human race can

kind of just take a step up because if we don't, we're going to be destroyed.

I don't know if you see what's going on in the world, but it's like, it's

not like the Alexander the great times where people going around

with swords, you know what I mean?

It's like, yeah, you're going to cause some devastation and stuff, but it's

not like today where it's like, you feel you push a few buttons to release

a few bugs and everybody's dead.

You know what I mean?

Or you know what I'm saying?

So this is a different time robot.

I don't care how strong you are, Mr.

Gunman, man.

But when the robots come and there's shooting you and your family, your,

I don't care how many guns you have.

You're never going to defeat the robot drone armies.

So we, as humanity are either going to take a step of evolution as far as our

goodness goes and our ability to manage our society, or we're going to let

these few broken, lost bullied people.

Destroy the world, right?

Because it doesn't take that many.

I mean, you look at the way the world is run right now.

There's probably what, a couple of hundred people that are control of really at the

buttons of power, a couple of hundred for billions, and we all want the same.

We all want all of these peaceful, good businesses, good

government, blah, blah, blah.

You would go down the line.

I'll tell you.

There's not one person doesn't want these things, you know, who wants corruption?

Nobody, you know what I mean?

So the problem and how to fix it is why I'm here and why I wrote this book.

And when I'm trying to get this message out and how we can literally step-by-step

fix this as individuals making ourselves the best people we can be knowing right

from wrong and doing what is right.

And fixing.

So anyways, it all starts with education, getting the knowledge

and then joining together.

So please join with me and let's make all this stuff happen before it's too late.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, it's been super awesome.

There's so much here, both, you know, that we've talked through and I feel like.

Spend the next week.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We can spend, you know, the next few hours chatting for sure.

You know, but before we, before we wrap up and, and, and this

episode, where is the best place for people to connect with you on.

Sure.

It's my website.

It's seven way me.

That's the number seven, w a Y dot M E.

It's named seven whamy because the way is the book and it has seven steps,

the foundation by high and everything it's called the seven foundation.

So it's seven whamy.

The number seven, w a Y dot Emmy, just go there.

You can find all about me doing coaching programs.

We're doing know I've been a lot of shows.

We're doing our own show.

It's called the one show it's launched in Facebook.

We have Facebook groups.

We're really trying to just get.

To the point where we have kind of a core group of people has anything, you know,

starts, you need some first followers and then we kind of grow and everybody can get

on board and understand these principles.

It's really not going to be as hard if we all join together.

You think about it.

Like I said, if it's five of us, there's a lot of work.

If it's 500,000.

Or 5 billion of us working together.

It's literally like, so imagine the power of clicking on a petition,

you know, once a week, that's not that hard giving a dollar a month.

You know what I mean?

With this core group of people, then we'd have so many.

Power to be able to make the changes in the world that we all need.

So don't, don't just pass by this as something that's like,

oh, I've heard this before and whatever this isn't I'm seriously.

I've shown this to so many people.

Everybody's like, oh my God, this was a game changer.

This isn't like anything you've ever seen before.

Publishers said that to me, like we have seen regurgitations of Carnegie

and Robbins and everybody else.

That's all.

Everything is just like, yours is totally.

This is a totally new thing.

So please check this out.

Don't be too jaded, you know what I mean?

And, and join with me and I appreciate it seven way me and let's make these changes.

Awesome.

We'll have that link, some other links and a, your bio and

everything in the show notes.

For those who want to connect and find out more information about you, what

you're doing, what you're up to and also all grab a link to the book as well as we

can make sure that people can grab that.

Awesome.

Appreciate the time today and the

jacket with you.

Ah, thank you.

Joshua.

Take care, everybody.

Peace.

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