As promised, we present the second half of Mike’s interview with Susan Masino !

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Beginning on a positive note, Susan describes the larger-than-life presence that was Bon Scott of AC/DC. Although he never gave any indication of it, Susan learned through her research that he was struggling quite a bit throughout his rockstar-idol years. She tells us how, although Bon is no longer in this world with us, he’s still around the band and the AC/DC world and makes himself known through the dreams and feelings of the living. Susan tells how Bon continues to be a ray of light, in spite of his absence in the physical arena of our living world.

Next, the discussion turns to the topic of synchronicity. Also commonly referred to as white light, good energy, intuition or gut feeling, Susan explains how a person’s inner self often guides (or tries to guide) but is easy to ignore. She reminds us that the “universe has a great sense of humor” and we should pay attention when signs appear that we should pay attention to. Listen for the best example of Susan’s experience with clairaudience , which occurred while she was in living in New York Sublets , it may just make you take notice next time the “voice in your head” tells you something!

The experience led to her job at a recording studio that worked on projects with Steve Winwood, Diana Ross, John Denver, Joe Cocker, the soundtrack for the movie “Beat Streat” and music for the 1984 Olympics. In the basement of Studio 54, did Susan see any disco-dancing ghosts? She didn’t see apparitions, but Susan did have vivid dreams while living in NYC during the “wild west days” of New York.

Finally, Susan shares the biggest dream(s) she has had that came true.

Welcome to see you on the other Mike, where the world

of the mysterious collides with the world of entertainment.

A discussion of art, music, movies, spirituality, the

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your hosts, musicians and entertainers who have their

own weakness for the weird, Mike and Wendy from the

band Sunspot. Hey, it's Wendy. You're

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Susan with some more cool stories about rockers and ghosts

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Well, who would you say, I mean, that you've,

like, had a supernatural, up positive

that they came in, they lifted the room, they, you

know, who had that a presence that you you think might be even

unearthly that kinda sticks with you? Oh god. That would be

Bob Scott. He he was he was an angel that was only

here for a certain time and and now he's gone

and talked about every day. I mean, he was he

was always even though he drank, he

I I never saw him, you know, and and I didn't spend, you

know, I didn't spend days on end with him, but I never saw him

so drunk that he couldn't talk or, you know, he's staggering around or

anything like that. He just you know, he was he was a drinker, but he

was always funny. He was always, like, when he walked into the

room, you knew he was there. And he would always

eat like, the band played off of him. You know? They they definitely

followed his in his footsteps of how to be. You know?

He was, friendly to everybody. You know? He hung out with the

roadies. He'd party with the fans after the show. He and

and if he wasn't making you laugh, he wasn't happy. Okay. And he

was just he was a ray of light. He really was. And, you

know, now that I've researched him and written about him, I didn't

realize that he was having problems toward the end that I wish I

would have known. He was lonely. He was having trouble. He was on the road

for so many years. I mean, by the time he died, including the bands

before ACDC, he'd been on the road for 13

years. Wow. So he was he was worn

out. He was tired. And and I didn't

realize that because he didn't show that when he was around. When he walked in

the room, oh my god. You know? I mean, big smile,

you know, making a joke, trying to make you laugh, you know,

tripping over something, spilling something, you know, whatever it took to make people

laugh. Well, it sounds like he was really a larger

than life I mean, he he was a I mean, larger than life. He wasn't

that big of a guy. Right? But Yeah. Like, his character

was just, and his soul was, you know, bigger than

the room. Oh, god. Yeah. And then, you know, even to this

day, I just said this, the other night.

Wendy see ACDC, I just saw them 4 times on the black ice

tour, but, you know, now it's been 4 years. But, I hadn't

seen them in 7 years since the stiff upper lip tour. Mhmm.

And that's one of the first things we talk about

is bun. When I hang out with Angus and Malcolm, that's what we talk about

is bun because everybody still misses him, and he's still a big part

of the show. I mean, half of the songs they play, he wrote the lyrics

to. And it's, you know, it's amazing and

and what's so sweet. I mean, Brian is probably one of the

Brian Johnson's probably one of the biggest Scott fans on the planet,

and he loves singing his songs. And and at the end of the the show

Wendy they do their encore, one of it is one of the songs is Highway

to Hell, and they show a picture behind the band of the band

with Bon. And he just he's always there.

You know, he's been gone for so many years, but he's always there, and and

everybody always talks about him.

And, have you know, when you guys

did the, when you did Let There Be Rock,

you know, and you did and, yeah, I'm sure you you draw on you drew

on your own experiences, and you, you know, you must've interviewed a 1,000

people coming up the story of ACDC.

Did you ever get any, you know, stories that people had

about Bon after he was gone? Any, you

know, any feelings or I mean, obviously, he is

well remembered by not only the band, but by everybody

loves Bon Scott songs. They you know? I don't know anybody that's Mike, hey.

See. Forget it. But did you ever hear

anything where they were like, while we were recording this, like, we

felt Bond in the room or, you know, or any any any

paranormal stuff related to him? Well, definitely. I mean,

only do I you know, I I have dreams about Bon,

and people talk about him all the time. They, you know, they do feel

him when they record and when they're on tour.

And, Brian Johnson, who hasn't really talked about it till

recently, he used to allude to it, but now he, you know, he

actually said that when they went down to the Bahamas to record

Back in Black, and he had to write, you know, the lyrics. And the songs

were set. The titles were set. The music was ready. He

had to come up with the lyrics, and he was terrified. And there was a

lot of storms, you know, there's a lot of thunderstorms down there.

And he said one night, he just sat up out of a dead

sleep, just sat sat up and grabbed a bunch of paper and a

pen and just wrote lyrics until they stopped coming.

And and he said that it was it was definitely Bond

was there, making sure that things were taken care

of. Oh, wow. Yeah. And and, you

know, even before I got, before I met the

publishers that hired me to do the book. And I I see Bon, you

know, not often, but here and there, he comes into my dreams.

And, this was so vivid. 1 night, I dreamed he

was here. He came to my house, and we sat, and we talked for

hours, and we laughed, and we joked. And, you know, it's just a

really great dream. And when I woke up the next day, I I felt really

sad because I'm like, god, you know, that seems so real. And

why, you know, why now? And and why did it have to feel that real?

Because it was it was painful to realize it wasn't wasn't real. It was just

a dream. Right. And the next day,

John, you know, my my ex, called me from work. And,

you know, I usually would stay up late and work. And this is,

you know, before I had the book deal, I didn't even know about the book

deal yet. And I couldn't remember what Von told would talk

to me about, but now I'm pretty sure that's why he came to me to

to tell me to get ready for it. But, John called me the next day,

and he said, why did you leave that lamp on last night?

And I said, what lamp? And he no. This is big lamp that's over by

the couch that's by my desk, but I never use it because it's really bright,

and I don't use those lights at night. Sure. And I said, what do you

mean? And he said, well, when I got up today to go to work, that

lamp was on. And and I've had that lamp for over 20

years and it's never turned on by itself. So it was kind of

it it I I laughed because it was Bond's way of saying,

yeah. I was there. I was doubting it. And, it was kinda

like, yeah, I was there. And then when I look back now, it's like

he and he did come to me during the writing of the book too because

I was super overwhelmed by it. Sure. I

covered 32 years at the time. I covered 32 years of history,

and I literally broke it down to a week at a time to make sure

that I didn't miss anything. And, one night, I

totally had, like, a panic attack. I mean, we're

a full blown, like, 3 o'clock in the morning. I can't do this.

Well, that's 1500 weeks. You know, that's that's a that's a good deal of

history. That's a lot of history. And I just I I

I had a total breakdown that night, and I went to bed, and I prayed

to Von. I said, you have got to help me. I need help. I need

something. I need somebody to help me get through this.

And, he came to me in in the dream that night, and he

was, we were in a kitchen in this house somewhere.

And, he was dancing around, and he was making fun of me. And he was

saying, oh, Susie. He said, it's gonna be just fine. He said, don't worry about

it, you know. And and I said, I felt so bad that he had he

had died, you know, at 33, and he laughed. And he goes, oh,

so that's my that was my time to go. He said it's fine.

Everybody's fine. Everybody's fine. Look at me. He said I look good, don't I?

Ah. And he just he just made me laugh. And then the next day when

I woke up, I I, you know, honestly haven't had a a panic

attack like that since. I mean, it he just really he was

there for me. And, and he does. He comes in and out.

And, those are those are probably the most innocent,

nocturnal visits from Bon Scott ever. Oh, yeah. I have

no he he and I are like brother and sister. He he offered a few

times, and I I knew better to say no.

I wanted to keep it at a professional level, you know. Oh, that's

great. And I could I could talk about ACDC and I

I have a 1,000 questions for you about Hank Williams and and

and, you know, and with because with the South and country

music, there's always superstitions and curses and

things like that. But, I do wanna talk about

your book a little bit, for the last stuff on the

secrets of the universe. I wanna ask you about synchronicity

and if you had any tips

for, you know, what's how how do you

get yourself in the right place at the right time? Any tips or ideas or

or things that you found in your Mike, that can

you found really useful for for, finding that

synchronicity? Well, you know, for one thing, you know,

I do talk about in, the second chapter I think

it's the second chapter. I don't even know,

about your chakras and your energy, you know, your god

energy that comes down through you and which is a white

light. And I think that you need to keep that open

and keep that around you at all times because we are

electrical. You know, we are, we are energy. You You know?

We are energy in a physical body. And the more you get in

touch with that energy, I think it opens you up more to

things. And and Mike I said, I'm really good at, like,

knowing when to do things, like like, maybe

a phone call or a letter. I'll know what day to do it on.

It'll be like, you know, oop, not today. That's not a good day. And then,

yep, today today is the day to write that letter. Today is the day to

pitch that book or or whatever. And, I've just I've

always had that, and it's it's your gut instinct

that's Mike, you know, it comes from within.

And, you know, when people ask me, like, how do you make decisions

on things? This is another way to to use this kind of energy

is when you have a choice of, like, a and b. You think about

a and what does your stomach feel Mike. And then you think about

b, what does your stomach feel Mike? And the one

that feels lighter and feels less stressful or less

scary, you go with that one because your your your inner

self always guides you in the right direction,

but you have to to learn to listen to it. So a lot of people,

you know, they get that stuff. They get those little things. Mhmm.

And they just blow it off. You know, they're like, whatever. You

know? Nah. You know? That's that's silly. And, I've had

you know, I've just I've literally had great you know,

amazing things happen to me because I've had that heard that

voice say, you know, yeah, go make that call now

or, yeah, apply for that job. Go ahead. Apply for that job.

You'll get that job if you apply for it. You know, things like that. And

and, I just I love synchronicity. I love numbers.

Numbers come up on license plates. They, you know, come up,

all over the place. I mean, it's almost comical. It's, like,

almost, in Bruce Almighty with Jim

Carey Right. You know, where he's begging for a sign and he has a truck

in front of him filled with signs, you know, road signs, and he

doesn't notice it. He doesn't see it. It there

are signs all over, but people don't notice them.

You know? Like like, I'll be thinking of, you know, let's say, I'll be thinking

of some you know, my friend who lives in England, And,

I'm out on the road driving somewhere, and I'm thinking about my Wendy, and I'm

missing my friend. And pretty soon, a big, you know, semi truck will go

by with the with the word England on the side of it. And

it's just kind of fun because the universe has a great sense of

humor, And it shows you or, like, when,

you know, you feel like you're late or you're not doing the right thing at

the right time, but then everything falls into place.

You have to remember, like, you you pull up to that stop sign

and your birthday is on a license plate right in front of you.

And that's the universe saying you are right where you

are at the right time. You're it it's okay.

So so what what do you think is, what do you think is a

maybe a decision you've made or a moment you've had or

something that that you've done where, you know, you were given that you were talking

about that choice you make where your stomach feels one way

versus your stomach feeling another, where you followed your gut. Like, what do you think

is the biggest example of that? And and you don't have to say it if

it's in the book. Some people can go to the book. But what do you

what do you think in your own life has been where

you followed your gut or are you in the right place at the right Mike?

And if you weren't there at that specific moment, everything would have

been different. I think one of the and this this sounds

kinda crazy, and I don't talk about it a lot. That's alright. I love crazy.

Yeah. It it it it involves a voice, actually. When,

John and I moved to New York City with a roommate in 1983,

We were staying with friends until we could find an apartment.

Now we were looking for an apartment in Manhattan, and we had

no idea what was a good part of town and what was a bad part

of town. So I literally, you know, got up early in

the morning on Wednesdays, The Village Voice would come out, and that was the day

that they would list all the apartments, and the good stuff would be gone

within the day. Okay? So I got

up. I circled what I just read, you know, went up and

down, up and down, and circled what I looked good, what looked good. And

we had about maybe 6 places to see that day. And,

we were in a rental truck, and we were in Manhattan traffic.

And there was this apartment on the Upper West Side that was, you know, up

toward Harlem, and and that, you know, that's scary. That's 19 eighties and

Right. Like I said, we had we had no idea what was a good place

or what was a bad place. And we had an appointment for an

apartment up there, and then we also had one down by Times

Square. Now at this time of the, you know, New

York City's history, Times Square was not the place you wanted to live in

in the 19 eighties. But the upper west side,

it was right on the edge of Spanish Harlem, and that also

was, you know, intimidating. And we were going through an

intersection, and, we were gonna blow off the

appointment to the apartment on the upper west side.

And I literally this is the first time that I ever heard the,

I think it's called clairaudience where where you actually hear

somebody. And this guy in my

head in my right side of my head screamed at

me, no. No. Come up and see this

apartment. No. Turn right. Turn right. And John was

literally turning left in the middle of a ton of traffic. And

I I just said, no. No. Turn right. Turn right. He said, I thought you

said turn left. I said, no. Turn right. We gotta go see this other apartment.

He's Mike and, you know, and he's like, well, I thought you said that was

too far north. And I said, just just just do it. Just do it. We

gotta do it. We gotta do it. And we went up there, and we met

the most amazing people. We got an apartment on the upper west side

with a doorman and laundry, and,

the the people that own the apartment lived, 10

floors above us. It was a furnished apartment, and it would have been gone

that day. I mean, it would have been snapped up immediately, and they

took a chance on some kids from Wisconsin that didn't know where they

were going. Right. And we we,

got a great apartment. And then it,

even happened when we stopped, we were moving

our stuff. You know? And we stopped in at a

friend who used to live in Madison. His name's Mark Kaufman, and he's

in, in the scandal video Goodbye to You. He's the drummer.

Awesome. Yeah. He lived he lived there, and he

was at SoundWorks, recording studio, which was a digital

one of the only 2 digital studios in New York City at the

time built in the basement of, Studio 54 on West

54 Street. Okay. And we got to stop and say hello

to him one day, and he said, come on down and check it out. You

gotta see this place. And we were I was messy. I mean, we were moving,

and I wasn't you know, I didn't think I should go in. And he and,

he's like, no. You know? I mean, when are you gonna get a chance to

come in here? You better come in and check it out. At the time, it

was a $35100 a day studio. Wow. People

like Diana Ross and, you know, Joe Cocker and, you know,

people like that. I mean, Harry Belafonte, those were the people

that that came in and recorded and mixed there. And,

I walked down the stairs, and the guy was on the phone. And I looked

around the studio, and I said to myself, now this is the kind of job

you want. You know? This is what you really want. You know? This is a

place that you need to work at. And as I'm thinking

this, the guy on the on the phone who is, an engineer who

is filling in at the desk says, no. No. The the position

hasn't been not filled yet. I'm sure she's interested. She'll call you back. And he

hung up, and I turned around, and I said, do you have a job opening

here? And he's like, well, yeah. We're looking for a receptionist that can, you

know, do billing and do phones and stuff. Why? You interested?

And I said, oh, yeah. I'm interested. It took me

2 weeks when I got the job. Oh,

wow. If I wouldn't have gone in the studio because I felt all

grubby and messy that day, that would have been a big life

changer. But I did, and I went with

my instinct. And, I ended up getting the job of the

apartment and the job. And that was all on

gut instinct completely because I really had no idea where

I was going. I was terrified of New York. I I got used to it

quickly, but it was very scary when we first moved there.

Well, how I mean, so how old were you guys when you when you went

to New York City? I was 27. Okay. So, I

mean, a little bit of life experience, but still, I mean, most of

it, obviously, if you grew up in the Sauk City area,

was around I mean, the Madison area, and Madison's great, but it's not that big.

Oh, yeah. No. I spent my whole life in Wisconsin, you know, moving

around Wisconsin and had never lived in a big city like New York. I

never had visited before or anything. Had no idea what I was getting

into. And And loved it. So

what so when you worked at the studio, did,

like, did you ever get to see anybody famous or any cool songs that were

recorded there or anything like that? Oh, yeah. They mixed,

Steve Winwood's, Roll With roll with it or roll with

me. They Mike that there. Diane Ross did

missing you there, her big hit. John

Denver came in a couple times. He he was a really good friend of the

owner. Joe Cocker, I can't remember.

Oh my god. I wanna say civilized man was mixed there. They did a

lot more mixing than they did recording. Sure. Well, digital, you

know. Yeah. It was digital. Yeah. But, they did, like, the

movie I think it's called Beat Street. Harry Belli

Belafonte, produced that. That was all,

recorded and mixed there. They even did the, 1984

Olympics. They they mixed all the music for that. Oh.

It was I mean, we had everybody in there. It was I that was one

job that I could not literally, could not wait for the alarm to go off

in the morning. Well, that that's awesome. Did you now

that you said in the basement of Studio 54. Right? Yes. Yep.

So, I mean, by 1983, that was that

was that place still hopping, or was it kind of at the end because the

disco era was kinda faded out? Yeah. Actually, when

when I worked there, it was closed down, but then they did open it later

on and then it closed again. So but when we when I worked

there, they it was closed. And, they

they built this beautiful studio, in the basement.

And, when I've read stories about what used to happen in the basement of

Studio 54 Right. I'm surprised I didn't see

any ghost out there. That's what I was gonna say. I mean, being in

a that, obviously, there was a lot of,

energy and, you know, mental energy and all these kind of things based around that

hub of the disco era. So I just if there are any

feelings or you picked up anything or, you know, saw that goes to somebody snorting

coke in the bathroom. You know, saw the ghost of somebody

snorting coke in the bathroom. I didn't see that, but, I

mean, we we just it was just an incredible place to be. You know, like

I said, I, Diana Ross worked there for 2 weeks, so

I got to know her. And, you know, Joe Cocker came in, and I

got to know John Denver. And Does Joe Cocker does Joe Cocker talk like

that? Like, real in real life? Actually, yes. He,

he was drinking at the Mike, and, he came down the stairs

one day with a Heineken. He had to have Heineken, you know, always stocked up

when he came in. He had a Heineken in each hand,

and we kinda met on the stairway. So he did a jig around

me and sang me a little song using my name, Susie. So he was Mike,

Susie, Susie, Susie, and he did a little dance around me. So it was it

was very cute. Oh, that's great. Not everybody gets a personal

Joe Cocker performance. No. Not everybody, but but I

did. And and how long were you guys in New York City?

Almost 3 years. Yeah. Almost 3 years. And then I I

actually had a dental thing that, went wrong with the

root canal that caused nerve damage, and that's why I moved home.

Otherwise, I I was determined to never leave New York, and now I go back

for the book expos and, at the end of May for my

books and stuff. And, I love New York City. I mean, it's just

to me, when I go there, I don't sleep because, that's waste

in time. Right. There's so I mean, there's so much to do, and there's so

many people. And, did you ever have any paranormal

experiences while you guys were out there? Not that

you know, I had prophetic dreams again. I had very vivid dreams

when I was in New York. And I think it was because of the energy,

but, mostly, you know, real life scary stuff, not

paranormal. Fair enough. Fair enough. You know,

people being shot in the subway and, you know, people being

mugged right in front of you. And, it was, the 19

eighties. I call I call that the Wild West days of New York. It's

true. It certainly was a different time. I mean, it really was when you go

visit I remember visiting when I was a kid a few times. And

going now as compared to going 30 years ago, it's

it's a completely different experience. And Mike you said,

Times Square. I mean, Times Square used to be porno theaters. It wasn't

this family friendly and somebody's dressed like Mickey Mouse and things. I mean,

it is different. Oh, yeah. No. It's totally a different city. I

mean, believe Mike, it's just yeah. It's and, you know, sadly, and

on the anniversary of 911 Oh, yes. The city is

completely different after that happened. I mean, I

when I went back in 2003, I was stunned by,

you know, people. I I was just out there last year. And I mean, people

in the subway, they're talking, they're partying with each other.

There was a girl sleeping with jewelry and a purse in her

lap. And in 1980, you know, she not only would have woke up without

all her stuff, but she might not have woken up. And, people

are it's so different. It's just a it's a different city. It it

911, how horrifying that day was

completely changed the city of New York. I I, I

agree with you a lot there. Now now now one

last question. I know I've kept you over time, so thank you for

hanging, Susan. Oh, no. Anytime. Anytime, Mike. But one last

question. So what what's the biggest

thing that you've dreamed of that's come true?

Like, so in in your dreams, what kind of what

clairvoyant or precognitive dream have you had that,

you're Mike that the biggest thing you think that you're that you to yourself are

like, yeah, that came I dreamed that and that came true. I can't I

can't deny that. I can't even doubt it. Okay. That I I have a

perfect story for that. Right. When I see ACDC in

my dreams, it whether it's one member or all of

them, I write it down and it always manifests.

It sometimes is years out, but they always

manifest. And I wrote in my dream

journal back in, I believe, 2005,

sorry, that I was, at an outdoor stadium.

I was talking to some of the band, and we were laughing at the tour

manager because he was arguing with a roadie in Italian,

so I was in Italy. And I always

wanted to see them play in Europe. I mean, I used to be so

jealous when I saw, like, the big stage setup with the big horns

and, you know, and and how many people Wendy thought, oh, you know, I'd

never been to Europe before, and I just I I always thought that was, like,

at the top 10 of my list of what I wanted to do. Well,

in 2010, I got an

email early in the year, an email from, a

fan in Italy that says, to Mike,

ACDC is playing in Mike, you know, hometown of Udine,

which is in Northern Italy, on May 19th

2010, would you come here for a book signing? And I said,

well, yeah. I'd love to come there for a book signing, but I don't I

don't make that kind of money. Right. And, he said, well, let

me you know, I don't either, he said, but let me do let me see

what I can do. And shout out to Mario Romati who is

still a wonderful friend of mine. He went to the bookstore. He

cleared the book signing. They loved it. They thought it would be a great idea.

And he went to the promoters. They loved it. They thought it would be a

great idea, but they, again, did not have the funds to do this.

Well, one of the kids, we call him Saint Lou, he was in his twenties

at the time, he went to the Northern,

Tourism Bureau of Italy and talk to the

lieutenant governor about bringing over this author

to do a signing the day before ACDC played and make a big deal

out of it. And, you know, because ACDC on their black ice

tour only played one city in Italy. And I

found out later Italy has a lot of, like, sound restrictions

and just lots of things. And and they were flying in and out of

Wendy that summer, that toward the end of the black ice tour, so

they picked Udine to play in. It was the only city in

Italy. So so they were really, you know, like, bragging it up. Like, you know,

we're so cool that, you know, ACDC is playing here. Well, sure

enough, they paid for me the tour

the the bureau of tourism of Northern Italy paid

my airfare, my hotel, all my food, and I had an

entire week in Italy, saw the band play live,

did radio, TV or not TV, but

newspaper articles. And just I had a blast,

and I saw them on a bright sunny day in Italy

exactly like what my dream showed me 5 years earlier.

That's an awesome story. That I wanna have dreams like that, Susan.

Well well, like I said, every time I see ACDC in my dreams,

I write it down because it it will manifest.

And that's why I think, you know, I I do have a past life with

Angus and Malcolm. I I honestly believe that we were related

in another life because they they've always treated me like family from the

the first day I met them, and they still do. Well, and your and your

career has been very much connected to them. Yes. Oh, god. That they made

my career. They made my career. I mean, I wouldn't have a career without

ACDC. I honestly don't think I would. So I I give

them all the credit. They they are the talented ones.

Well I was lucky enough to be there. Well, you're certainly talented too. You

got 5 books out, and the latest book is The Secrets of Universe,

Universal Laws, Past Lives, Ghost Adventures, and Mike.

And people can get that at susamasino.com. Where else can they

get it at? And they can get it at Amazon on Amazon.

It's in paperback and on Kindle. Okay. So you can get it. You don't

have to go to the bookstore, and you don't have to wait for it. You

can get it from your Kindle next time you next time you go to

it. Right away. And, if you go to my website, all

5 books are on there, and my 6th books will be out next spring,

the ACDC FAQ book, everything you wanted to know about the

world's true rock and roll band. Awesome. Well, I'll look forward to

reading it when it comes out. And thank you so much for your time, Susan.

It's been a lot of fun. There's probably about a 100 more things

we could talk about. And so I'm gonna save that, and we'll have to do

another episode soon. I would love to. Thank you so much,

Mike. And anytime. Call me anytime as Bond would say.

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