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Burt, the New Like Butter product, Mystery of Web Sales, Arachne 3D Printing Slicer, Brothers Neistat, and Epoxy Woodworking Stances?
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- Consistency comes from Off-loading Tasks for Jem
- PDX CNC Tool Tag Tower - Free 3D Print
- Arachne in PrusaSlicer or Cura saving tons of 3D Print Time
- Advertising for Services and Products
- The mysteries of web sales - July
- Burt Bedroom Storage - LB
- Don't go live on a Friday
- 5 Principles of Organization - Van Neistat
- Organanised Clip
- Casey Neistat - Interview about income about Vlog Income
- Education / Sharing at Work without Negative Tone?
- Makita Coffee Maker - Amazon
- Where do you stand on Epoxy!?
- Chair by Chris Tomoya
- IKEA Kitchen / Rob Lockwood
- Longitude Book
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Jem Freeman
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Justin Brouillette
Portland, Oregon, USA
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Speaker:happening in your virtual world,
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Speaker:I play with Dolly today a little bit again, but
Speaker:played with your,
Speaker:I play with my Dolly's, in particular.
Speaker:So he can't seem to share screens.
Speaker:Maybe that's the one downside of this.
Speaker:I was chat chatting with my friend about having to wear N 95 masks and.
Speaker:Wanting a comfortable one and like how to eat in it.
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Speaker:oh, oh dear.
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Speaker:obviously the ear flap thing, but like, I was like, you know, those
Speaker:like nursing bras that are like quick open, like, I want that for a mask.
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Speaker:and it violated their terms.
Speaker:and I was like, do it again.
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Speaker:I think they're really quite disgusting.
Speaker:that?
Speaker:One's got an arrow.
Speaker:they're really high resolution.
Speaker:Surprisingly too, you know?
Speaker:I know frightening.
Speaker:I just made the mistake of clicking on one and expanding it.
Speaker:It gets real big.
Speaker:Like the one cheeseburger, I think my favorite's the black mask one with
Speaker:the guy holding it and it's looks like the burger has hair to me, which
Speaker:feel a little bit ill.
Speaker:sorry.
Speaker:I just, I just got outta bed and had two sips of coffee.
Speaker:are you vegetarian?
Speaker:I didn't know
Speaker:Sammy, Sammy.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I can do a, I can do a, a veggie burger next time.
Speaker:How's things for you.
Speaker:just need to that out.
Speaker:Good, good.
Speaker:I haven't been making anything that fun.
Speaker:it's important work.
Speaker:good,
Speaker:It's like.
Speaker:When I asked my wife how her day was and she goes, it was fine.
Speaker:I'm like, oh really?
Speaker:What, what happened?
Speaker:What was fine?
Speaker:I've been chipping away at my default diary, making, making kind of slow,
Speaker:steady progress, doing, trying to do the same thing every day.
Speaker:My two hours of quitting and
Speaker:It's always impressive.
Speaker:two hours of marketing and my two hours of random stuff.
Speaker:People that listen to this with like normal nine to five
Speaker:jobs that don't own a business.
Speaker:You're like, what, how come they can't just do the same thing every day?
Speaker:Why is it so hard?
Speaker:yeah, finding a rhythm and thinking, I was thinking about that writing in.
Speaker:I think, I think I can only find that rhythm cuz I've
Speaker:outsourced enough of my job to
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:be distraction free for those chunks of the day.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So Ben's really flowing with the production management role.
Speaker:Now got a good rhythm.
Speaker:Sarah's taken on HR and sort of more responsibility with business
Speaker:management, bigger picture stuff.
Speaker:So she's cracking on and making decisions, and taking actions on stuff.
Speaker:And, it's, it's meant that I've yeah, I've been left alone a bit
Speaker:more and I've had a bit more time to focus, which has been nice.
Speaker:Mm-hmm that?
Speaker:Yeah, that sounds delightful.
Speaker:I've been slack with my R and D slot.
Speaker:Still not getting up in time.
Speaker:I think I've done about an hour of play time this week.
Speaker:So feeling the lack of that, but
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:otherwise it's been good.
Speaker:not enough recess.
Speaker:Just
Speaker:We should relive it.
Speaker:Re do you call it, do you call it recess in, in like grade school
Speaker:when you get to go out and play?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:and call it recess in the morning when you do your D time.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:and then part of that is being that because I'm training John
Speaker:up on the pencil, sharper,
Speaker:Hmm,
Speaker:a lot of the little fun, little R and D things that I was previously would've
Speaker:been responsible for on the pencil.
Speaker:Sharpers is now John's job.
Speaker:So making new parts or developing new code for new products and bits and bobs.
Speaker:So he's been working away with that.
Speaker:Very cool.
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:Just quietly making myself redundant.
Speaker:Haha.
Speaker:I mean, sounds lovely.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:That's pretty weird.
Speaker:yeah
Speaker:and I keep, I keep sort of checking myself thinking this can't be, this can't be
Speaker:real or this, this won't last very long.
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:That, yeah.
Speaker:that's pretty nice.
Speaker:I've had kind of a similar scenario, but it's only cuz we haven't had enough work.
Speaker:like hit, hit a lull where there's not many R FQs.
Speaker:We kind of tidied up all the jobs that are happening in the last week or so.
Speaker:And I don't know, I, half suspect this has always happened.
Speaker:This is part of why I get anxious about the job software being a primary
Speaker:driver of things is like revenue is there's just times when nobody
Speaker:contacts us, you know, like for like seems like forever, but it's.
Speaker:I just sit there and I think like, damn, like why, why is this happening?
Speaker:but on the other side of that is like Ricky and I have been like able to
Speaker:basically collaboratively work on finishing up like the duck, the duck
Speaker:tower, the tower of duck, and have our second prototype coming soon.
Speaker:I spent way too much time working on this tool tag thing for the
Speaker:mill room that I put on Instagram.
Speaker:It's like, each of those is a tag and they can like, they fall off
Speaker:spin so you can see it potentially,
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:which is kind of cool.
Speaker:So it'll like Mount up some giant magnets and it actually is like currently
Speaker:printing a 20 hour print of this that's one through 20 all of our mill
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I was gonna say how many, so you got
Speaker:This is a test.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:This is a test of five and I did some modifications and.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Spent
Speaker:That's cool.
Speaker:too much time yesterday on that, but
Speaker:Oh, I'm a little bit jealous of your free time.
Speaker:To be honest.
Speaker:I know it's at the cost of not having enough work, but,
Speaker:yeah,
Speaker:enjoy it.
Speaker:for sure.
Speaker:Yeah, it is, it has been that and still, it feels like every week we're
Speaker:joking, we need to dedicated day each week just to like printer repair
Speaker:or maintenance or like something happening where, so we gotta fix it.
Speaker:I think, did I mention here that we'd ended up getting a second PERA?
Speaker:I saw something hiding in a box yeah.
Speaker:In the bottom cupboard.
Speaker:yeah, we couldn't figure out first where we're gonna put it in the rookie.
Speaker:We had storage down there and we're like, let's just put it down here.
Speaker:And I was like, yeah, that's a good idea.
Speaker:So that's
Speaker:you bought another new one or second hand.
Speaker:new.
Speaker:I don't even, I didn't think about secondhand, but we've had
Speaker:so much consistency problems that I was, I can't imagine.
Speaker:I now know how to like look at stuff when it comes in, test test things to
Speaker:make sure they're in good working order.
Speaker:Whereas the first one, I just put it down.
Speaker:I was like, go do stuff, you know, like but we've had the first one has had we've
Speaker:replaced the motor in the last week.
Speaker:Cause that was the, why seemed to be having issues.
Speaker:It's still causing a bunch of crash crashes where it thinks
Speaker:it's like hitting something.
Speaker:If you have this crash detection on.
Speaker:So it's currently printing, like we've changed the nozzle and continued to
Speaker:kind of drop our time, which is sweet.
Speaker:I think we're down to four hours and 45 minutes now.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:That was super impressive.
Speaker:When I saw that that's amazing.
Speaker:but the surface is with wider nozzle are really, I would've expected.
Speaker:They'd be far worse, like more stepping, but it's so smooth with that new
Speaker:Iraq N slicing thing on PERA slicer.
Speaker:So we've been stoked about that.
Speaker:It's really kind of changed.
Speaker:What we need the machines to accomplish.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:so what was the secret to the reduced print chart?
Speaker:Was it nozzle and the acne thing?
Speaker:RNI seems to be a hu.
Speaker:Well, both, both will do it because with the wider nozzle you can,
Speaker:it's kind of like a 50% rule.
Speaker:I think somewhere around there where 50% of your nozzles diameter
Speaker:is your kind of optimal step down.
Speaker:So by going up from 0.4 to 0.6, we go from 0.2 to 0.3 in steps.
Speaker:And so that only saved a couple hours, honestly, to change the
Speaker:step down with a wider nozzle, but.
Speaker:The difference is the, our active thing is for specifically our
Speaker:part generating the surfaces.
Speaker:It they're so much smoother.
Speaker:Like we were thinking the other day I was chatting with Ricky about one of
Speaker:'em it actually it's so good on one of the prints that you don't actually
Speaker:see the Z layers, as much as you see, like, like a, a circular pattern
Speaker:of reflection, it's like changed so much of how the code is generated.
Speaker:It just sounds smooth.
Speaker:And like it's just in that alpha build currently of peruse slicer.
Speaker:Kira actually has it too.
Speaker:They borrowed it from Kira.
Speaker:I've made a post, I can put a link to it.
Speaker:It's crazy how much it's changed.
Speaker:We, we were down like 55% where we were two weeks ago.
Speaker:And is it, I don't really understand what it is, but does
Speaker:it optimize sort of organic curve?
Speaker:So it's just more efficient movement, a smoother movement.
Speaker:I think it's doing like it's few examples I've seen it's a
Speaker:perimeter generator, first of all.
Speaker:It's looking at how the, you know, the ization or something and whatever
Speaker:the previous technology had a lot of starts and stops to it, I would say.
Speaker:and especially when you have like walls like this, where there's an outside
Speaker:and inside and then something in the middle, it kind of will fluctuate.
Speaker:Even though I've design, I modeled it consistently.
Speaker:The slicer like has trouble like going, oh, I'm gonna make a consistent
Speaker:line through the middle of it.
Speaker:So it like will put little bits and like do a little scribbling
Speaker:back and forth previously.
Speaker:And that's like all gone, which is just wild.
Speaker:That's cool.
Speaker:Yeah, that struck me watching.
Speaker:Josh's one here of how.
Speaker:Oh, it's amazing how it moves, but yeah.
Speaker:How much, little like scribble action it does on the infills
Speaker:What's Josh's printer.
Speaker:You remember?
Speaker:a CR kit of some sort, quite a large
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I would definitely look into cause both of the pretty major slicers right now,
Speaker:Kara, and it seems it's just shocking how different it is for us anyway, but
Speaker:pretty cool.
Speaker:Cool.
Speaker:mm.
Speaker:I was gonna ask you in, in your slow times, do you, do you have any background
Speaker:ads running for book shop services?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I kind of always have, I keep it pretty low.
Speaker:What I am lucky that our name is Portland.
Speaker:CNC is like kind of what you Google already.
Speaker:So like I've made enough of an SEO.
Speaker:Move that I get a lot of organic hits, do to get few a day, probably
Speaker:from a few bucks of Google ads.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Cause your, yeah, your organic SEO game must be pretty strong.
Speaker:The amount of sort of stuff you publish and
Speaker:Got, got pretty lucky.
Speaker:Well, it's interesting.
Speaker:I, I don't think there's a huge crossover to people that end up on
Speaker:like a blog post to like being our cus like our job shop customer.
Speaker:But I think it helps trust, you know, like
Speaker:it must help with search too.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker:I think it's got to something like that.
Speaker:yeah, yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker:So do you find Google ads effective for that?
Speaker:Those few
Speaker:that seems to have been pretty effective over the years.
Speaker:I, I honestly forgot it was turned on for like, I think I have it to like $30 a
Speaker:month as the limit or something like that.
Speaker:And it amounts to like one to four per people clicking a day.
Speaker:Additionally, I guess.
Speaker:And I can't tell you how many actually convert, but it, the conversion actually
Speaker:happens when they get to the quote page.
Speaker:And I don't know, after that, if they, how, how far they get.
Speaker:So it says they convert, but whatever, do you do ads like that?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:We've been most of our ad spenders with Google ads at the moment.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And, and
Speaker:pull, we pulled back from matter at the start of the year.
Speaker:We do both product and service marketing on there.
Speaker:We don't do any service marketing.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So
Speaker:we have more leads there than we can deal with.
Speaker:Because we wanna push the product side
Speaker:yeah, for
Speaker:We, we only market product.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And then that you've seen that.
Speaker:Do you have conversion rates showing on that, like that it's,
Speaker:what's working pretty well for you
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:it's hard to tell, like it's so up and down, like one month is
Speaker:great with product and then thought that next month is terrible.
Speaker:So July was like really, really low for us in terms of product, product sales.
Speaker:and, but at the same time, all the like Google analytics and
Speaker:the ads stats were really strong.
Speaker:Like we had heaps of traffic had more traffic than the month before
Speaker:yeah, that's
Speaker:and ad ads were seemingly performing well, but the
Speaker:conversion rate was just super low.
Speaker:Like our conversion rate in Shopify.
Speaker:Last, sorry, in June was like 0.5, four, which is the best it's ever been.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:And then in July it was down to 0.17, so super low,
Speaker:and we can't really work out why, other than sort of economy and, you
Speaker:know, interest rates going up and those sort of sorts of economic conditions.
Speaker:I have no answers and all the metrics look strong in terms of
Speaker:a, what the ads have been doing.
Speaker:That's a bit of it's frustrating.
Speaker:I don't think we've talked about this, Erin.
Speaker:I can't ever peg it too, actually, when it happens, but for years
Speaker:and years, I would comment to Erin about like, oh, it's so weird.
Speaker:We just get these bursts of orders sometimes, you know, and one of her
Speaker:comments, I think about a lot was well, Let's say maybe it was, maybe I was
Speaker:commenting at the start of a month.
Speaker:She was like, well, people get paid right at the start of a month or like,
Speaker:and it, it seemed somewhat corollary.
Speaker:To that, I mean, I can't say that that's the reality, but maybe it is
Speaker:like a weekly cycle where somebody got paid and they were feeling
Speaker:like, oh, I can buy something now.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:We've always had weird runs on products too.
Speaker:Like before we ever did any advertising, just certain set of
Speaker:shelves would sell really well one week.
Speaker:And then like, you wouldn't have sold a pegboard for months and
Speaker:then suddenly we'd sell five of them in one week sort of thing.
Speaker:It's like these weird little waves of popularity of things se with seemingly no
Speaker:trigger, but something was happening somewhere.
Speaker:for sure.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That's so weird.
Speaker:just frustration about, you know, trying to build consistency.
Speaker:In sales, particularly on the website of things.
Speaker:And then every month it's just all over the shop and we feel like
Speaker:we don't have a handle on that,
Speaker:yeah, but
Speaker:but trying to learn more, trying to delve into Google analytics and
Speaker:Google ads and actually learn, try and learn what it all means a bit more.
Speaker:Oh, I know what I was gonna say about this.
Speaker:Oh, I, I, I think a couple weeks ago, I thought I was on a kick of like
Speaker:setting up ads, especially Google ads.
Speaker:And I had never advertised our online training courses on Google
Speaker:before and Facebook had basically dropped off to not being useful.
Speaker:And so I tried it and I, I was.
Speaker:Typically I'm pretty, intentional about where I would have ads shown, but since
Speaker:it's an online course for training, I was like, let's just try the whole world,
Speaker:you know, what, what's it gonna be like?
Speaker:And I watched it for a week or so.
Speaker:I forget the budget I put in it wasn't that high $30 a week, $50
Speaker:a week or something like that.
Speaker:And just trying to experi let it experiment.
Speaker:It was like, I felt odd to me, like kind of almost wrong.
Speaker:And they would just, it was like thousands and thousands of clicks, super fast
Speaker:and zero conversion for all the time.
Speaker:It's been on, like, nobody has bought through that.
Speaker:And I'm always just like, I don't understand why, why can't I never
Speaker:figure out how this stuff works.
Speaker:Like I can keep throwing money at it.
Speaker:I can get conversion like crazy of clicks anyway.
Speaker:And then the money doesn't happen.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:Mm.
Speaker:Frustrating.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:It is.
Speaker:And I don't know enough about it.
Speaker:I think even if you are paying someone to help, it's important to sort of
Speaker:understand as much as you can, so you can ask the right questions around that
Speaker:for sure.
Speaker:stuff.
Speaker:we're bearing the lead here.
Speaker:You have a new product.
Speaker:bearing the lead?
Speaker:we do, yeah, my monthly product launch ambitions were saved
Speaker:by Ben and Josh releasing Bert the clothing rack last week.
Speaker:And it was a bit of a mad rush on Thursday, getting it all published
Speaker:and online, but we got there.
Speaker:Nice.
Speaker:Nice.
Speaker:Jay was working away, getting all the air table and Shopify and prepared.
Speaker:And turned into a real variant Fest that ended up being 19 variants.
Speaker:We thought we were launching a simple product
Speaker:and then suddenly it was like, oh, but then you can do this
Speaker:and that and that, and that.
Speaker:And suddenly there were 19 variants.
Speaker:Well, there actually, there were a lot more than that.
Speaker:And then I cuddled multiple materials.
Speaker:I was like, this is too many to go live with.
Speaker:Let's just keep it to a single material
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And we shot some photos quickly on Thursday ABO and got it online.
Speaker:And then there's crickets zero response
Speaker:That's fun.
Speaker:but it was in a week where we had almost zero web sales.
Speaker:So I I was trying to sort of remind everyone after the weekend,
Speaker:not to feel like it was a flop.
Speaker:It was just like our web sales have flopped.
Speaker:It's not,
Speaker:What,
Speaker:the product is no good
Speaker:what day did that come out on?
Speaker:Did you announce it sale?
Speaker:Thursday
Speaker:Thursday night?
Speaker:I've always had a hard time and our markets could be completely different.
Speaker:I don't even know, but I've always had a hard time, like the last couple days of
Speaker:a work week, trying to put out products of any type it's like, there's almost
Speaker:too much of a rush for the weekend.
Speaker:And like, I can't think about this right now.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:Maybe that's just my own personal side of it, but I have done
Speaker:enough reading that in America.
Speaker:Anyway, from what I understand, it's like the, my understanding the best day we
Speaker:can put out a product is Tuesday morning.
Speaker:thus is why we also do the podcast like that too.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:Like we, we Googled a little bit
Speaker:and thought that might be the case.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:It might be different for you, but there's all this stuff about
Speaker:like emails getting buried.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:If you do it at night and it won't show up, like you may just not see it in
Speaker:the morning, but if a few email in the morning, you might be the top of the list.
Speaker:And Mondays people are also catching up often.
Speaker:So from the weekend, you're like have a bunch of stuff.
Speaker:So somehow Tuesday, Wednesday is like the day that you
Speaker:Interesting.
Speaker:caught up for the week.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:You can try it.
Speaker:That's some gold insights.
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:Well, Jay's funny cuz Jay's come from the sort of developer world.
Speaker:we often seem to be launching things on a Thursday, which is our Friday
Speaker:and day's always like don't you never go, never go live on a Friday.
Speaker:Cause then you spend, you spend the whole weekend fixing the bugs.
Speaker:they're gonna love this part then.
Speaker:and we always go live on Friday.
Speaker:yeah, no good to have that product out.
Speaker:Awesome.
Speaker:To see another.
Speaker:Thing come through the staff royalty program
Speaker:Uhhuh
Speaker:thing, and they just keep coming.
Speaker:We've got so many on the list.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That's awesome.
Speaker:keep pushing along.
Speaker:On your website, you have, I noticed this before you changed your theme as well.
Speaker:You have this order today for dispatch collection in
Speaker:approximately one to two weeks.
Speaker:How much effort are you guys putting into tracking that kind of thing?
Speaker:Or is it like some plugin that you kind of
Speaker:That is a lit little bit of custom code
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:that pulls that five days two to three weeks, whatever it
Speaker:is, that field from air table.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:Like live all the time.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:Wow,
Speaker:but we don't change it all the time.
Speaker:sure.
Speaker:It's it's more like.
Speaker:Well, we wouldn't change it more than weekly or biweekly,
Speaker:depending on what the product is.
Speaker:Most of them are pretty static
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:based on the product being print on demand.
Speaker:But with something like Kitter parts, we might, if we, you know, we've got plenty
Speaker:of stock on the shelf of parts, we might change it to like two to three days,
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:but if we're running light on parts and we need to sort of do another batch of things
Speaker:that we might push it out to a week.
Speaker:it's one of the few bits of custom code, which I allowed on the new theme,
Speaker:cuz I really didn't want, I wanted as minimal custom code as possible.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:But that was one of the things that we thought is important for people to see.
Speaker:And we feel like that really helps conversion if people can tell
Speaker:When they're gonna get it.
Speaker:when they're gonna get it.
Speaker:So we kept that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It's nice.
Speaker:I'm just, I'm looking at your code right now.
Speaker:It's a diviv class of lead time.
Speaker:Lead time injected.
Speaker:That's a nice diviv class.
Speaker:nice.
Speaker:One, Jay.
Speaker:I love that.
Speaker:Um, Van never know how to say those names.
Speaker:That nice.
Speaker:That, yep.
Speaker:brother of Casey
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:maker of 10 bullets,
Speaker:mm-hmm yeah, I think you worked on it.
Speaker:same narration voice
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Think he worked for him at the time.
Speaker:It's funny seeing all the similarities in like style between
Speaker:It's
Speaker:bands, studio, and Tom Sachs
Speaker:this stuff, that's pretty cool.
Speaker:A very pleasing video.
Speaker:I thought it was interesting.
Speaker:I haven't watched a bunch of vans stuff, but I, I was really into
Speaker:Casey's videos when he was doing all, most of his posting, but
Speaker:it was like five years ago now.
Speaker:The daily vlogging.
Speaker:I was like addict.
Speaker:My wife was watching that we would wake up and watch those in the morning.
Speaker:Like it was just like
Speaker:that's
Speaker:a kind of addicting.
Speaker:Neither have said ever watched any vlog things before and just, I was really
Speaker:inspired by the way he made video.
Speaker:It helped me, it definitely changed my thinking of like, everything
Speaker:needed to be perfect and like, oh, you can't have like a camera shake.
Speaker:And he would like film a time lapse and then just pick up the camera
Speaker:at the end without like a cut.
Speaker:And I was just like, oh, you can do that.
Speaker:Yeah, I enjoyed them too.
Speaker:Around that time.
Speaker:but I find it interesting.
Speaker:They both make videos and their styles are pretty similar van and, and Casey,
Speaker:and then also the Tom sax thing.
Speaker:So it's like somewhere in between, they're like a Venn diagram.
Speaker:Yeah, I don't can't remember where I've heard it, but it was a good
Speaker:interview with one of them about how they started off making video together
Speaker:Oh, I think I,
Speaker:the types of jobs they got straight outta the gate.
Speaker:And how that sort of built up to the point where they were making videos
Speaker:for big artists and brands and stuff.
Speaker:not to go too far off the path there, but the thing that was interesting, I recently
Speaker:saw it was like some podcast clip, Casey was somebody who was interviewing
Speaker:Casey and I'll probably find it here.
Speaker:And he was talking about how mu it's just juicy stuff.
Speaker:That's like that, you know, we don't have these kind of numbers to share,
Speaker:but it was, he was like, well, you know, for a hundred million views on
Speaker:my vlog, I didn't monetize the YouTube.
Speaker:Cuz I thought it was like an art project and like, it wasn't worth it.
Speaker:He's like, and then I finally decided to turn it on and I made $6,000 the
Speaker:first month and he was, and he's also saying he couldn't help pay for
Speaker:their rent in New York at the time.
Speaker:Like it was all his wife paying for it and they were supposed
Speaker:to be splitting it or something.
Speaker:And he's like the next month after that 60,000.
Speaker:And he is like, it just kept going up.
Speaker:And then the brand started calling and I was like, you are making so
Speaker:much money off this that's so crazy.
Speaker:Yeah, it's wild,
Speaker:But I suppose on the video, did you watch that five principles of organization?
Speaker:Mm.
Speaker:I enjoyed it.
Speaker:Yeah, Ricky
Speaker:and I watched it here.
Speaker:interest in it?
Speaker:I really liked particularly.
Speaker:The, just like a thing I've, I've kind of thought about and never formalized,
Speaker:but the whole, like one hand, no stacking is like my favorite and Ricky and I are
Speaker:both like, yes, we need to go for that.
Speaker:Yeah, that was.
Speaker:What
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I used to show, I used to show videos like that in staff meetings, whenever I came
Speaker:across them, like things like 10 bullets and do easy, you know, five years ago, if
Speaker:I'd just discovered that five principles of organization video, I probably would've
Speaker:shown it in the staff meeting next week, but I've stopped sharing things like that.
Speaker:Like I might ping it to the slack channel, like the, the group chat, but
Speaker:I've stopped doing that in meetings.
Speaker:And I'm just trying to think why I reckon think I got a little bit
Speaker:tired of trying to sort of impart
Speaker:sure.
Speaker:cultural stuff
Speaker:like that and not, not feeling like it had any effect, like people would sort of
Speaker:appreciate it in the moment and enjoy it.
Speaker:Seeming.
Speaker:Mm-hmm
Speaker:but I felt like I was kind of, sort of trying to push
Speaker:an agenda.
Speaker:a cult, an agenda.
Speaker:I was kind of a workplace dynamic of like, oh, look at this new
Speaker:lean video I found from Pearson work holding, look how cool it is.
Speaker:And then there'd be a few little nuggets.
Speaker:I think that would reappear, but people obviously absorbed and thought
Speaker:about, but I just felt a bit forced or something, or don't know, I
Speaker:found myself not doing that anymore.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I know what you mean.
Speaker:It definitely depends on not to like speak to your team, but just from my
Speaker:experience, depends on the people.
Speaker:I can talk about Ricky, cuz he is here right now, but I think Ricky is the most
Speaker:eager to learn person I may have ever met.
Speaker:Like, like he's always just wants to absorb everything.
Speaker:So everything seems shareable and he's also just like the nicest person, but
Speaker:he just is always excited about it.
Speaker:Too.
Speaker:So it, that makes it easy, but yeah, at times I think there's definitely been
Speaker:a, Justin's pushing too much concept at us of lean or something, you know?
Speaker:Yeah, I'm gonna explore that further.
Speaker:Cause
Speaker:turns, yeah.
Speaker:Turns into like maybe like a school dynamic or something potentially.
Speaker:Maybe that's part of it rather than sort of peers sharing ideas.
Speaker:I think.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I think it's important to share those ideas, but I think it's more important
Speaker:to just lead by doing, and if you follow those principles, I don't know.
Speaker:Maybe it's important to talk about why you're doing that, but yeah, I think
Speaker:just doing is probably more important.
Speaker:We tried for a while when we had, it was like probably
Speaker:two months was not very long.
Speaker:We,
Speaker:I had this thought, I think I'd seen somebody else do it when we had a larger
Speaker:staff was to have somebody share or teach something that they knew, because we did
Speaker:have a fairly diverse group of people.
Speaker:and from their backgrounds and things that they learned.
Speaker:And it is interesting how slack kind of supplant a lot of that, you
Speaker:know, like it is almost unfortunate because it's easy to miss.
Speaker:You can skip through stuff.
Speaker:But it is, it allows like not forcing the whole, like.
Speaker:Meetings.
Speaker:Aren't great.
Speaker:Like it, it causes a lot of people to have to listen to one at the same time
Speaker:and it may not be pertinent to them.
Speaker:And but yeah, I like that idea of like, it's not always the
Speaker:one person teaching, you know?
Speaker:I, yeah, I've always loved that from, I think I got that concept from fast
Speaker:cap of like a different person running the team, meeting every the standup
Speaker:meeting every day or whatever it was.
Speaker:true.
Speaker:I don't know that we've ever tried that here, but I really like it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:idea.
Speaker:I kind of have like an anti meeting, which we probably should
Speaker:get a little more formal about it.
Speaker:We just end up like chatting for a while throughout the day, but like,
Speaker:Mm
Speaker:Somehow, like having a set time for meetings has never worked for me.
Speaker:Like, I guess my regularity of everything is just, I'll be deep into something
Speaker:and it feels like the wrong time.
Speaker:So it's like how about later in the day?
Speaker:And then it'll be like, either we do it or just skip it all together.
Speaker:And it's like, why did we schedule a meeting in the first place?
Speaker:just me.
Speaker:feel like, well maybe, or maybe it's just the small team, you
Speaker:Yeah, sure.
Speaker:it's maybe if it's working fine.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I, I certainly find great value in a structured team meeting at the same time,
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:Every week, we get a lot of value out of that.
Speaker:Constantly fiddling with the like agenda template of what we actually talk about.
Speaker:We don't really talk about production anymore.
Speaker:We used to kind of run through all the jobs in the system one by one.
Speaker:And that
Speaker:just kind of got to a point where it was a bit of a waste of time.
Speaker:cause everyone was either across the jobs they needed to be across or didn't
Speaker:need to know about certain things.
Speaker:Nice.
Speaker:now it's a bit more of a sort of at the moment, it's a bit of a sort of
Speaker:big picture check in of like business health sales, cuz we're pretty
Speaker:much full open book finances now.
Speaker:all key numbers on the table for the previous week, how the month's
Speaker:going, that we talk about, you know, any sort of production issues that
Speaker:need solving and bits and bobs.
Speaker:and we try and keep it to sort of half an hour.
Speaker:when you got eight people it's it's a lot of
Speaker:Yeah's it expensive?
Speaker:Fast?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:expensive exercise.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:We all drink coffee from the Makita battery coffee brewer.
Speaker:And
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:Have you seen that guy before
Speaker:funny.
Speaker:No, I've never come across him.
Speaker:I'm?
Speaker:I'm a, I fan fancy myself to be a decent coffee maker and he's actually
Speaker:really educated myself quite a bit on educated, my educated myself.
Speaker:He's educated me quite a bit on just he won like the world barista championship,
Speaker:which I didn't even know was a thing.
Speaker:It was like one of those things where like YouTube just suggested him to me.
Speaker:And I was like, oh, I'll click on it.
Speaker:And then now I watch every one of his videos, but he's
Speaker:just, you know, interesting.
Speaker:I think Americans, especially we have this like myself included.
Speaker:It's like we have this, he talks just differently enough in terms of like
Speaker:the things he said and the pattern and, and the tone that it's like.
Speaker:I dunno if it's easier to listen to, but it's just like more intriguing
Speaker:sometimes than maybe somebody cause it's like, I don't know.
Speaker:he's got a really nice presentation style.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I like, he'll go from the crazy swing of like a $10,000 espresso machine to like
Speaker:today, like this video we're talking about, we're gonna look at the bizarre
Speaker:battery powered Nikita coffee machine.
Speaker:And it's like, he runs it off at the smallest Volvo volt
Speaker:Nikita battery I've ever seen.
Speaker:I was like, how is that?
Speaker:Even a thing?
Speaker:It looked like it was like three triple a batteries.
Speaker:There's tiny things.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:but I found it entertaining.
Speaker:They're the little batteries that John keeps in his pocket
Speaker:for his heated Nikita jacket.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:I thought you were gonna say it first.
Speaker:He just keeps a battery in his pocket for like backup.
Speaker:And I was like, man,
Speaker:can you Just you're really keeping it tight over there.
Speaker:Like butter.
Speaker:Don't let 'em walk over to the battery chargers.
Speaker:Huh?
Speaker:No,
Speaker:No walking!
Speaker:no walking.
Speaker:you lean transportation waste.
Speaker:I was talking about seven wastes of lean yesterday.
Speaker:Actually
Speaker:You get a lot of like
Speaker:is seven, right?
Speaker:heads falling down.
Speaker:No, not to the team.
Speaker:I was think I was thinking about it.
Speaker:I was remembering, I think it's a Pearson video where he
Speaker:talks about the eighth waste.
Speaker:yes.
Speaker:I could be totally misquoting of interpersonal drama
Speaker:being the eighth waste.
Speaker:Oh, interesting.
Speaker:And I was, I had it morning yesterday where I was like, I
Speaker:have had enough of the eighth
Speaker:A title option there
Speaker:I just had a frustrating morning of like, just unnecessary drama.
Speaker:for sure.
Speaker:That's interesting.
Speaker:So I have in our fresh desk, I have a lean page for internal use.
Speaker:I don't think it gets much.
Speaker:It's like only for basically people that are new or when I need
Speaker:to remind myself what something is and the eighth waste on here.
Speaker:I don't remember where I sourced this from is non utiliz talent.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:Oh, yeah, I've heard that one too.
Speaker:the drama one.
Speaker:I like more, but
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I wish I could remember where I got that one, but I'm gonna
Speaker:credit credit it to Pearon for
Speaker:there you go.
Speaker:So you're making epoxy river tables.
Speaker:Is that your next project?
Speaker:I would like to say I would never do that, but you can tell my
Speaker:stance.
Speaker:Can we, can we just queue up an image from D of like a knack wall with epoxy spewing
Speaker:out of the holes and they're running down.
Speaker:God.
Speaker:What if it knew what a knack wall was
Speaker:Imagine it'd be quite the compliment.
Speaker:spewing from?
Speaker:Holes.
Speaker:We'll see what that comes up with.
Speaker:Gentlemen, enough with the Dall-E already!
Speaker:They've changed it now to a credit system.
Speaker:So it used to just be like, go wild.
Speaker:And I like hit the limit that one time early on, which I did, there was no
Speaker:stated limit, but I hit it and they seem to have taken heat and they're like,
Speaker:well, we need to slow these people down.
Speaker:So now you can buy tokens.
Speaker:and you get a certain amount, maybe every month,
Speaker:you're gonna have to start buying carbon offsets to like offset your server time
Speaker:Right, epoxy.
Speaker:we haven't talked about it particularly.
Speaker:I have a feeling, I know how you, how you feel about river tables
Speaker:and just that kind of like.
Speaker:Use of epoxy as material, I guess, is what I would say.
Speaker:and since I wrote it, I was curious what you thought, but I
Speaker:guess I'll give my side first.
Speaker:I, I, I think it's useful in terms of like, I've never done anything really
Speaker:like it, I don't have an interest in it.
Speaker:I personally don't like the idea of plastic wood or plastic being used
Speaker:and, ways that it doesn't necessitate.
Speaker:I think it's useful to like patch and fill solid wood when need be,
Speaker:but not just like let's dump 10 pounds of this to make a thing.
Speaker:And I'm not saying it's not beautiful at times, but my ethics override my interest
Speaker:in beauty, I guess if you call it that.
Speaker:And I actually don't really find it that beautiful, usually.
Speaker:Look, I think, you know, where I stand I'm, I'm completely
Speaker:disinterested in, in it as a material.
Speaker:And just as you are talking, I was trying to think if there are any exceptions
Speaker:to that, there is a chair which uses kind of uses it as a material or
Speaker:it's, it's walking that line between material and adhesive by Chris TA Moya.
Speaker:And I'll find a link for the notes, but there's this beautiful
Speaker:chair where he is taken.
Speaker:I think Vic Ash on Australian timber and he is physically snapped.
Speaker:He's quite large sections of timber, like splinted them into a
Speaker:90 degree and then cast epoxy resin.
Speaker:To reform the corner.
Speaker:So it's this quite an elegant,
Speaker:oh, I've seen this.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:smash joints that are then neatly molded with epoxy.
Speaker:And that I really liked.
Speaker:I thought it's quite beautiful.
Speaker:It's a clever use of sort of an adhesive becoming a decorative
Speaker:element with these beautiful shards of timber sort of captured in it.
Speaker:Yeah, no, I thought
Speaker:I know that, what you mean.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:an exception, but otherwise, no,
Speaker:not into it.
Speaker:there was recently I have a couple friends that we have very similar
Speaker:feelings and we chat quite a bit of when something comes up like that.
Speaker:We usually privately give it a good critique.
Speaker:and recently one of them found that there was some research that
Speaker:came out that said it's in a, in a way that hadn't been said before.
Speaker:There are some pretty serious carcinogenic problems with off gassing
Speaker:of resin and, and kind of all forms of.
Speaker:Like after it's cured even.
Speaker:And like, sanding it, which is, is pretty obvious that that was the case,
Speaker:but it, it had never really been stated.
Speaker:I was like, all right.
Speaker:Perfect reason why I'm never touching it.
Speaker:I think the best, my best use case for it as an adhesive was when we were doing the
Speaker:big fiber optic artwork five years ago.
Speaker:And we had all these, a Luca bond cladding panels that were getting wrapped
Speaker:around a sort of five meter column.
Speaker:And we had about two, 2000 fiber optic fibers that had.
Speaker:Run down the column and then come through the cladding
Speaker:through little three mill holes.
Speaker:And so we glued each fiber into the back of the cladding with this beautiful.
Speaker:What was it like a scotch?
Speaker:I a 3m, one of those little, two pack, little nozzle, gun nozzle,
Speaker:things, cartridge, epoxy things.
Speaker:That was wonderful.
Speaker:Really great product.
Speaker:Great application tool worked beautifully, but yeah, obviously there's,
Speaker:there's hundreds of types of epoxy resin, probably more epoxy adhesives,
Speaker:my favorite is when they call it eco like I think there's a brand called Oxy
Speaker:and I think that's false advertising.
Speaker:I tend to agree.
Speaker:I'll switch it up here from our away from our favorite thing, epoxy to I've had a
Speaker:lot of good comments, encouraging me for our choice to adopt, to not shop no to
Speaker:What?
Speaker:that's a stupid thing about pets to adopt.
Speaker:Adopt don't shop
Speaker:for Pets It's a,
Speaker:are for Christmas.
Speaker:Kittens are for Christmas.
Speaker:TAs are for life.
Speaker:That's what they say, right?
Speaker:Oh, no, it was about my ake kitchen.
Speaker:everybody I've had a few messages about how it was the right thing
Speaker:to do and that their spouse would, similar to myself that it it's better
Speaker:to have moved that way than to have fought it for another two years and
Speaker:totally.
Speaker:made a more expensive solution.
Speaker:But in particular, as I mentioned, Rob Lockwood and I were working
Speaker:kind of collaboratively on a thing.
Speaker:He, he, his first thing is like, I just turned, I just turned off my podcast.
Speaker:When I heard you bought an Ikea kitchen.
Speaker:I'm so disappointed.
Speaker:and he is like, actually, I just got to work.
Speaker:I'd love to see what you've done with fusion cabinet templates.
Speaker:I'll show you mine.
Speaker:If you show me yours
Speaker:, yeah.
Speaker:We've, we've had fun with parametric template building.
Speaker:That might be a good, next one.
Speaker:We'll have to figure out how to screen share.
Speaker:I think where I will finally solve all of this and I don't have an ETA
Speaker:on it, but I've heard they're working on configurations, which is like
Speaker:a thing that came from Solidwork and other modeling softwares where
Speaker:you can,
Speaker:inventor has that too.
Speaker:yeah, you can basically, I don't even know how to describe it, but it will
Speaker:solve the things I'm trying to solve with like, is your cabinet left or right
Speaker:handed or, you know, like, and it pulls in those parameters more dynamically cuz
Speaker:right now that's I was trying to basically hack my way into the standard way fusion
Speaker:uses, that to, Make it work with like binary toggles , if it's a zero go right.
Speaker:And it just, just fricking breaks every possible time.
Speaker:I think I had it.
Speaker:And I, there was also, I might have said it here, but for a while, I,
Speaker:I frankly call it a virus and I think they have somewhat resolved
Speaker:it finally, but there was a thing in the product design extension,
Speaker:which I don't think many people had.
Speaker:I had it cause I'm in this, influencer program,
Speaker:group.
Speaker:it was turned on by default and I wasn't even using it, but it was
Speaker:removing data from your fields.
Speaker:When say you go to extrude and you typed in a parameter, it would remove
Speaker:that information and just put a number
Speaker:in.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:was like terrified.
Speaker:It was just eating away at all of our files.
Speaker:And I think it's still there and it was just erasing it every time you'd open it.
Speaker:So you couldn't see your parameters anymore.
Speaker:And I was like, oh my God, that's when I stopped working on the cabinets because
Speaker:I was like, well, I can't right now.
Speaker:And then I was like a month and a half ago.
Speaker:My cabinets have been hacked.
Speaker:yes, exactly.
Speaker:Frightening.
Speaker:Unlike what I'm going to do to them soon, pack them in a different way.
Speaker:what are you doing for the doors?
Speaker:You mentioned bamboo.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Like I think there's probably Pinterest, my wife and I are Pinteresting kitchens
Speaker:and, just vertical grain, bamboo doors, slab front what were we gonna do?
Speaker:I think they might have ledge poles now, but we were thinking about making 'em.
Speaker:So you'd have like a pull from behind, but it didn't quite
Speaker:work in a few circumstances.
Speaker:So like a carbonized vertical bamboo play
Speaker:yes.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Think something like that.
Speaker:material.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I like it.
Speaker:We, we were going round and round with I don't know if you're like this.
Speaker:It's like, sure.
Speaker:We wanna enjoy our house.
Speaker:We're not sure we're gonna stay there for 10 more years.
Speaker:And I think in like the design community, we may be okay with like
Speaker:exposed edge Baltic, Birch or plywood.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:But the most people like a slab front of Baltic Birch when the edge
Speaker:is exposed, it just doesn't really, that's kind of what we were thinking.
Speaker:And so we're like, I don't know, at least Bamboo's kind of natural that way.
Speaker:Like it shows its edge kind of naturally.
Speaker:does have a nice end grain detail.
Speaker:It's nice to machine.
Speaker:I like it.
Speaker:It's really expensive here.
Speaker:I haven't done much with it cause it's a bit prohibitive,
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It's all imported here from Asia, I
Speaker:yeah, of course.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I got invited to, be a guest speaker at like a fusion open house
Speaker:community meetup in a couple of
Speaker:Sweet.
Speaker:And my immediate thought was like, oh crap.
Speaker:I better do some more work infusion.
Speaker:Just
Speaker:like really like clunk.
Speaker:I can't figure out how to use this right now.
Speaker:Sorry.
Speaker:I've been using rhino for the last few months.
Speaker:I can't remember.
Speaker:How does this work again?
Speaker:do you guys have rhino on this?
Speaker:That's cool.
Speaker:Just quite
Speaker:Hmm, that'd be fun.
Speaker:Just a little thing,
Speaker:the local house reseller, I believe
Speaker:buying a mill.
Speaker:Aren't you
Speaker:Well, maybe it will.
Speaker:it comes with that's your speaker bonus.
Speaker:They just give you like a minimi.
Speaker:sure.
Speaker:I'll I'll take it.
Speaker:we'll talk about fusion.
Speaker:Sure.
Speaker:Not to do yours.
Speaker:I got invited to it's interesting.
Speaker:We have a similar timing, a, thing in the UK.
Speaker:For fusion, they invited me for,
Speaker:Live sync up.
Speaker:I think they're calling it.
Speaker:So I need to book my flight today.
Speaker:that should be pretty interesting.
Speaker:I haven't been to the UK other than like flying through and haven't gone anywhere
Speaker:that far in a long time with COVID.
Speaker:So that was my instigation of making those stupid masks with cheeseburger,
Speaker:I was, I was chatting with my friends, like, what's the best mask for flying,
Speaker:you know, like I wanna quick take it off and like eat a cheeseburger and
Speaker:awesome.
Speaker:Nice one.
Speaker:Well, I hope that goes ahead.
Speaker:Yeah, me too.
Speaker:It should.
Speaker:I mean, I think I just have to pick a flight this point, but yeah, it'll be fun
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:Awesome.
Speaker:the UK is farther in time from where I am to you.
Speaker:So it'd be like more hours apart, right?
Speaker:No, no idea.
Speaker:I'm glad you
Speaker:time zones are not time.
Speaker:Zones are not my strength.
Speaker:Wolf from alpha.
Speaker:Let's see.
Speaker:On that riveting note, there's a good book about that actually
Speaker:Time zones.
Speaker:I'm not reading that.
Speaker:it's called Longitude.
Speaker:I can never remember the difference between neither of those.
Speaker:longitude.
Speaker:The true story of a loan genius who solved the something.
Speaker:It's a good book about the discovery of longitude time
Speaker:Oh, there you go.
Speaker:I didn't
Speaker:realize that was the thing
Speaker:for the week.
Speaker:I know.
Speaker:I'm glad I remembered this.
Speaker:Have you, or can you, can you access the show?
Speaker:The bear on Hulu?
Speaker:Have you heard of this?
Speaker:Roar
Speaker:! I'm a Bear
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:Cool is like doesn't exist here.
Speaker:It doesn't.
Speaker:Ah, damn there's a very good show called the bear that I watched in
Speaker:two days with my wife and it like, it's filmed in a very unique way.
Speaker:I feel like it's like a lot of one camera following around and it's about the
Speaker:chef and cooking in Chicago and, yeah.
Speaker:Anyway, very good.
Speaker:If maybe if people wanna, if you can't watch it, I guess we won't talk about it.
Speaker:That'd be kind of weird, but,
Speaker:There are people that on, you know, your side of the world who listen to
Speaker:this, I believe it's not all, it's not an exclusively Australian audience, so
Speaker:It'd be funny if it's just me
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:America.
Speaker:Nobody else listened here.
Speaker:hot tip.
Speaker:I was very good.
Speaker:I enjoyed it.
Speaker:It was very creative and I was like watching other people's
Speaker:creativity in, in their fields.
Speaker:Yeah, totally me too.
Speaker:How did you go with the aluminum part?
Speaker:oh.
Speaker:I was up very late that night.
Speaker:I talked to you trying to get it done.
Speaker:maybe that was the day after I forget, it went well I don't know how to describe it.
Speaker:It just takes me forever because I'm always afraid I'm gonna crash
Speaker:things that I haven't set something.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:I could not for the life of me, which I found out is actually
Speaker:just plain bad infusion.
Speaker:You can't, even if you set your fixturing as like fixturing in
Speaker:the setup, it doesn't avoid it.
Speaker:not who I would it.
Speaker:it just tells you that you hit it in the simulation.
Speaker:So I was using these clamps to hold it down in the corners.
Speaker:And I was terrified that I was gonna just run through those,
Speaker:these clamps with my tools.
Speaker:So that probably took me like another three or four hours of trying to
Speaker:get the cam to work as it should.
Speaker:So apparently there's a potential future solution there that they're working on.
Speaker:it made me really sure that I wanna put a fixture plate on the mill, because part.
Speaker:The challenge.
Speaker:I really didn't have the right tools.
Speaker:Like I really need or fixturing, I needed side hold this inch plate
Speaker:of aluminum and I couldn't anyway.
Speaker:I could buy some cheap things, but I don't wanna have to take everything
Speaker:off, down to the table every time and not have a way to put it back on quick.
Speaker:So, yeah, definitely.
Speaker:I think we'll be calling Saunders at some point and we've got, 'em
Speaker:quoted before, but now I kind of know what I want versus back then.
Speaker:I was just like, let's just see what it cost.
Speaker:So that'll be nice.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Fantastic.
Speaker:Well done clock that time as training.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker:I'll bill that to myself.
Speaker:all right.
Speaker:See ya next week.
Speaker:Have a good afternoon.
Speaker:I'll see you then.
Speaker:Bye.
Speaker:you miss.
Speaker:do you really spell it different?
Speaker:I thought you just said it differently.
Speaker:How do you spell it?
Speaker:How do you spell it?
Speaker:Oh, you really do put another eye in there.
Speaker:I just, I didn't know that.
Speaker:okay.
Speaker:okay.
Speaker:These are kind of cool not to extend forever, but I was trying to test the,
Speaker:Extruding factor say like do this little formula and you print spiral base mode.
Speaker:So this is literally a single wall of filament and it's like super
Speaker:flexible, but super good quality.
Speaker:You can kind of tell, I, I don't know if the quality is good enough in these
Speaker:images, but it's like reflective.
Speaker:It's so clean.
Speaker:It gave me some ideas for
Speaker:sure.
Speaker:Iraq N
Speaker:spiral based mode and it literally spirals all the way.
Speaker:There's no stops.
Speaker:now I have these like stacking blocks on my desk.
Speaker:There's just always like stupid things to play with that I've been like making
Speaker:for a while and they just sit here.
Speaker:I was looking at my, my I've got a little box of shame here.
Speaker:It's got some really random stuff in it,
Speaker:Box of shame.
Speaker:including done.
Speaker:Would appreciate these good little conduit cutter
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:What do you think about that?
Speaker:Done?
Speaker:All in a days work...
Speaker:you know.
Speaker:con cutter.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:You've got like real tools.
Speaker:Mine's just little junk.
Speaker:I guess I got a lot of fixed, a lot of hardware.
Speaker:oh, there's plenty of jump.
Speaker:What what's on your desk?
Speaker:How about some cross Dell nuts
Speaker:Oh
Speaker:project for my mom that I haven't finished in months.
Speaker:I'll raise you.
Speaker:I'll raise you.
Speaker:Here we go.
Speaker:An RCA port out of a tape player that I pulled apart 15 years ago.
Speaker:that beats me for age, for sure.
Speaker:On parts of my desk.
Speaker:that it's already outta hand.
Speaker:We're we're doing desk show and tell alright.
Speaker:See you, man.
Speaker:But
Speaker:Oh, thank you for being a great guest.
Speaker:Oh, thank you, Z.
Speaker:Does it say
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:mine?
