On January 10, 2023, I was posted up in Nashville, Tennessee, and able to have people come to me. Ryan Rado, painter/Make It Perfect host/ontological coach, was one of those people. Still early on in the interviewing game, I got a little carried away with sharing my view rather than getting curious about learning my guest's. I share this episode to be transparent on the messy middle of growth. As well as to share the vulnerabilities and challenges, to be brutally honest with oneself, which Ryan offered.