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Dianne C. Braley, author of The Silence in the Sound
Episode 131st November 2022 • Author Ecke • Travis Davis
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A fiction novel about a woman coming to age. Life has not been kind to Georgette. Growing up with an alcoholic father and an enabling mother, she clings to the loving memory of a childhood trip to Martha's Vineyard to help see her through the bad times; and now, as an adult, she returns to the island to start her life over. Soon she becomes the private nurse for a prize-winning novelist. As the two become friends, he opens her mind to new possibilities.

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Hey everybody, this is Travis from Author Echo.

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Today I have Diane, and she's gonna tell you a little bit, maybe a lot

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about herself and her book or books and just to kinda get to know her

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and her writing style and what she likes to do and talk about her book.

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Diane, take it away.

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Hi everyone.

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I am Diane c Braley.

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That's where you can find me everywhere.

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That's what I go by.

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So I just, first of all, thank you for having me, Travis.

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I appreciate it your time.

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Thank you.

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What you're doing is really cool cuz I think, you know so many of us.

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My book, The Silence and the Sound, it's women's fiction coming of

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age novel is my first novel and.

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Wish that I had more podcasts.

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There's a good amount there's not enough.

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I wish that I had more podcasts to listen to about first time authors and

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the mistakes you make and all kinds of things of what to do, what not to do.

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the laundry list.

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A lot of us end up teaching ourselves along the way with all kinds of

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errors and failures and successes.

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And there's a lot of work.

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I think, and I'm sure you can attest to this, that you put in.

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Wow.

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I really probably, even though it takes an incredible amount of work to write a

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book, just getting it out there and then the marketing and all of this and getting

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it published is just it's so difficult, but then I think when you don't know

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things, it makes it 50 times difficult.

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Yeah I would agree.

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I tell people that the easy part was writing the book.

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To me, imagine the marketing.

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And just getting it out there is because there's just so much out there right now.

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Getting it out there seems tough to me.

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So how do you, what do you find is the best approach to marketing?

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What have you found the most success?

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I'm a, an animal.

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I'm a very disciplined person.

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I am to a fault.

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I'm exhausted, really.

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But I , I.

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Market.

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I just, it's almost like I throw something at the wall

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just to see if it sticks.

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And I do a ton of marketing.

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I do face Facebook ads, which I'm not.

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The thing about marketing though is you have to really be good with

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like kind of graphs and numbers too.

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Cause you can't really tell exactly what's working if you Yeah.

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It's hard to keep track of.

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So if I have Amazon ads running and Facebook ads running, actually Amazon, you

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can see from what you spent to the sales.

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So how many clicks?

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But Facebook ads, it'll just tell you how many clicks to the link.

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But that doesn't mean they bought.

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Yeah, that to get into that point.

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So I I started my own company a few years ago and that's why I ran some

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Facebook ads and LinkedIn ads and some other things, Twitter and everything.

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What I found out that some people just like to click on stuff.

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The people that just that, they don't understand that's actually costing

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you money every time they just click on it because they're click happy.

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I really thought when I mean I've had so many link clicks,

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like it's just unreal and.

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The problem is, and I think a lot of authors have said this, is I think you'll

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get a lot of people that'll put it in their shopping cart, but how do you get

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them to pull the plug to buy the book?

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Sat wonderfully.

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And sadly, I have found the best approach is to connect with people directly.

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So just putting a post somewhere, no one cares.

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Messaging people directly, book clubs, things like that, which

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is so tedious and especially I work, I'm a nurse, I also work as a

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nurse and to connect with everyone.

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I would love to connect with individually.

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It takes so much time.

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I'm on TikTok, I'm on Twitter I'm on all of it.

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And so if Diane has to run out real quick, she'll be right back.

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She just have to tend to a patient.

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So if she runs out real quick.

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actually, I gave up Brun Delta patient Care quite a while ago,

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but I do more of an administrative stuff now, but I'm still working.

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I'm still a nurse and I still I love people in this kind of genre now,

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and I wish I could connect with them more.

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I just, who has the time to individually connect with every

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single person that you love to.

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That's tough.

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It's really tough.

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So you do Facebook.

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So tell us about your book.

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I am curious cuz I had some other female authors on and each one was.

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From a perspective of writing or their books.

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So I'd love to hear about your book and I know I should hope so.

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We're all, we're not all the same.

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Oh, I know.

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Isn't that everybody when you stereotype ? So my book is, it's coming of Age story,

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upmarket, women's fiction actually.

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And it's about a young nurse.

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It's inspired by actual events.

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It's about a young nurse who leaves her life and her family's

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dysfunction on the mainland behind.

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And heads to Martha's Vineyard Island.

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But sometimes the past isn't so easy to escape.

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It's a small what?

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It's a small world . Oh, really?

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It's a small world.

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Why I run into my neighbors at the airport in Chicago.

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I run into people all the time.

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So it's just look around.

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Oh, I know that person.

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It's always crazy.

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So I I had the honor the book is, it's funny cuz the book I, when I wrote it,

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I had the story in my head for a very long time and when I started writing I

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didn't realize what the book was gonna become and the book actually became and

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actually a reader told me, This after a beta reader, one of the initial readers

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of the book surmised the book for me.

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And it's funny cuz I was looking for an elevator pitch and I couldn't quite

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grasp it's the hard, an elevator pitch is one of the hardest things cuz

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you have to just tell about your book in one sentence, as I'm sure yes.

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And a beta reader has said to me your book is really about, the premise of

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your book is really about the devastating effects of growing up in addiction.

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And I was like, boom, that's.

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It really is, even though that wasn't my intention when I set out to write

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it, I grew up in an alcoholic home and I don't like I always say,

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I don't, I say this now, I don't wear this as a badge of honor, but Right.

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I ended up writing about Joette, my protagonist, she has a relationship

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with our father who is an alcoholic, and when I started writing, I

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really just meant to touch on that, but I could really just tap.

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My feelings of growing up with my father who suffered from alcoholism and I just

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kind all of my young, being a young adult and a child is my anger and my

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toughness and all this stuff just came out through the page and I just went with it.

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So it ended up being a book about, really the premise of growing up

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in addiction and the choices, the cause and effect, and the choices

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you make in life because of that.

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But it also is a beautiful setting.

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It has some celebrity friendship, and I also features a relationship between a

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young nurse and a patient who is a famous Pulitzer Prize winning author, which I.

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Honor of living on Martha Vineyard and caring for Pulitzer Prize winner,

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William Styron, who arguably is best known for his book, Sophie's

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Choice among many others.

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Who actually became my motivator in writing.

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I, it was always my dream I wrote as a kid, but growing up blue collar and how I

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did, and a tough town outside of Boston.

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I followed of in my blue collar roots and my mom and became a nurse just like her.

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And I'm very proud to be a nurse and nursing actually led me back

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to my real, like my real passion.

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Oh, cool.

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Interestingly enough.

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So it's really inspired by a lot of actual events.

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That is fiction, but it's inspiring at just, it's very

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emotional and it's been a journey.

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, was it was it therapeutic?

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Yes.

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I just was talking about this.

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It's funny cuz I I'm a big advocate for therapy, but in therapy you're

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talking to someone about your problems and in writing, and I'm not sure if

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you can relate to this in writing.

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I, you can actually be reliving things on the page of, even if the, even if it's

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fiction, it's I write from feelings.

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Places I've been and people that I know, and even if I compile,

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like if I combine them in one character or that's how I write.

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So it's almost like I was reliving so much a, this a love affair, my relationship,

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my father, my time with William Tyron.

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So it definitely was.

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Cathartic and I, it took it was pretty exhausted by

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Yeah.

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I try to, or when I write, I can visualize it.

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So I write what I'm visualizing to the point where I talked to somebody

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the other day she read the book she goes, Travis, love how you put it.

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Cause I can actually read it and close my eyes and I'm doing it, or I'm there.

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Me too.

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Something else.

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I, and I like to do that.

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I like to, A lot of detail in there where I think detail is needed to

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be able to, for the reader to say, Oh I can see myself doing

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that, or or I've been there.

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I do that and my, and I write my novels in the first person and my

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second novel that I'm working right on right now is in the first person,

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which is really difficult to do.

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But I, I don't, and I'd to try another way, maybe my next

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book, but I have to almost feel.

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The, what the characters are feeling, what that protagonist is feeling.

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So I tap into feelings I've had or feelings that I've seen others have.

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And I have felt from that.

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And that's of how I have to do it.

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And I'd love, I'd like to experiment another way, but I'm scared.

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, don't be scared.

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So I can read sideways and I see where that says New York City.

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Oh, nyc.

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that's the Empire State Building.

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So tell us about that.

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That's pretty.

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Yeah, so I I, the book came out and it got some great reviews and blah,

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blah, blah, and I submitted my book to a couple of different awards and

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initially it won a Firebird book award in women's fiction, which was really cool.

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And then it became a, Honorable mention in the Hollywood Book Festival.

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So that was really exciting.

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That's quite nice.

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Yeah.

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And then I just, I entered the New York City big book award, which

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I had, I didn't think at all.

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I had a shot at this because the New York City Big Book award takes books from.

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Indie every book out there, Indie authors, university presses traditional

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the big five publishing houses.

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Sure.

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And I won, I I got the notification that I won for women's fiction

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and I just was That's amazing.

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I was blown away.

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I was blown away.

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. That's amazing.

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Good for you.

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So I find it, you go out and find these different awards.

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Our competition or whatever, you go out and find them and put your

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book submit your book to 'em.

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It's pretty good.

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Yeah.

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And people think I have to be on people who don't know anything and about and

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why would they lay people not in the literary world or any of this.

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They, everyone will say, Oh my God, how did they find out about you?

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Look, how did ? And it's, No, I sent them something.

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You, Yes.

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My, my own family would say, God, how did you get.

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Library talk.

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This book event though.

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How did you get this restaurant event?

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I'm like, I hustle like nobody's, no one's coming to me.

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I have, not only do I have to email once, I have to literally stock

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them, hunt them down and circle.

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Oh, I do too.

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I, So actually, I'm going to a signing of a book event in on next Saturday, the 22nd

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in Manas, Virginia, and I live in Dallas.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Wow.

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My son lives, and we were there April and I started to finish up my first

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book and we went to this beer garden.

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And you ever been somewhere where you're like, I love this place?

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Oh yeah.

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I love I I felt of course bricking beer, what?

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Can't go wrong with that.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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But just the atmosphere.

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I just said, I love this.

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So I said, I'm gonna put this in my book.

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So I actually put it in my book where the team goes after a mission to.

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Oh wow.

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And so I got ahold of the folks said, Hey, I put y'all in my book.

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I'd like to do a book signing.

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They were like, Love that.

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Let's do it.

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Yeah.

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So we got, they're, we're doing it next next Saturday.

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And That's awesome.

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Yeah.

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Every, everything in my book is a real place.

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Yeah.

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Mine is too.

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Yeah.

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Some of closed, but I actually.

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I have found personally and I've told a couple of authors this and

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I don't like giving away too many of my secrets, but I'll mute this.

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Just go ahead and move your mouth and I'll mute it.

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Oh, it's fine.

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. But I have found that people the library events, which are so important

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and, but it's such touch and go.

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It's so touch and go.

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I've had nobody show up.

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I've had a good amount of people show up.

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It's really right.

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It's really, you just don't know.

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But I had a couple of events at different restaurants.

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They would just stuck me in a corner.

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One gave me a beautiful tape table and I set my books up and the customers, I

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had people come and the press came to one and they'd come and it's almost,

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the customers are so excited cuz it's something for them to talk about and

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do and it's just been so successful.

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So like rest To me, restaurants are just a great, and it's so unusual

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you go for it's read something.

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So anywhere you, anywhere your book takes place.

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Like my book takes place in Martha's Vineyard is in, It also takes place

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on the north shore of Massachusetts.

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Hit them because wherever your book I and you know what, hit wherever.

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I just came back from Ireland.

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I brought books with me and I'm hustling it.

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I dropped some off at the Irish Writer's Center.

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I went into a bookstore.

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I said, Hey, do.

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Can I, would you wanna sell these books?

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And I did a little signing there, I, everywhere, anywhere

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you go bring your book.

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Oh, I just bought a trench coat and I'm gonna put hard cover,

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soft cover and open it up.

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That's a hundred what it is.

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And then the reviews, I feel like I'm the mafia.

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I'm like, Did you review my book?

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You need to review, Please review.

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Did you I swear like I.

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I'm shaking people down.

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I'm like, You need to review.

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Then I keep track of, I'm like, Really?

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That's supposed to be my friend.

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Then she's done.

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I know she didn't review it.

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I'm like, My family.

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I'm like, Did she review it?

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, . I'll say I Facebook, Hey if you guys, Cause I know pretty

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much some folks that bought, Hey, make sure that give a review.

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Cause those are important.

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Or whether they're, Oh my god, Amazon, or Good Reads or whatever.

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They're, everything is so important.

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Cause some people determine.

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What they buy based on a rating where I typically don't.

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I just, if it looks good, I'll read it.

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Cause some people like stuff, some people don't.

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Someone made a good point to me.

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Two things.

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Amazon, if you get a certain amount of reviews, Amazon will

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start promoting your book, right?

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So you, it's so important.

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The way to thank an author for their book is to please leave a review.

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And then the second thing, it was funny cuz someone I read something and.

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I found, I find this to be true of myself.

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If someone has completely five star ratings or the reviews are just all

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so good, I almost don't trust it.

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I'd rather, Yeah.

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If a book is a totally five star, I, you almost want be like a foreign change.

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There has to be some negative reviews because it's, I don't trust it.

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I'm like, Oh, they're paying people . I tell you, go out and to verify that.

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Go out and look at some of Dan Brown's.

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Oh, two, 2% ones in some of them.

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Really?

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He's a great author.

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Look at some of these other authors.

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There are.

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Everybody gets a bad review.

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Nothing personal.

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Oh, everyone I the best, the classics that understood the

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test of time have bad reviews.

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Yeah.

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So if a book doesn't have many a handful of bad reviews good god.

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There's and so you are not self-published.

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You found a publisher.

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Yeah.

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Is that correct?

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Yeah.

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And just why and why did you decide that route I went, I exhausted I

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think like a lot of us I knew that it's very hard to get an agent and get.

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The whole in the top publishing houses.

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But I think we all write our book and we, even though and you send it off

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and I send it off to the first like 10, bat 10 agents and you really think

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once they see my book, they're gonna, there's it's gonna be like nothing

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they've ever seen before, . Oh yeah.

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And that doesn't happen often.

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So I wrote my book.

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I sense agent the first 10 knows I was just gutted.

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And then it just gets easier.

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Just keep keep it up.

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It's just, and actually some of the feedback that I got, if

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I got any, was very helpful.

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And I made I changed some things, right?

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I got so many great responses from agents too that where they said they

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loved the book and very sincere.

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But, , it's in the market.

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So high concept right now that we didn't, they didn't know

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if they could sell it, right?

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So I appreciated the honesty, but I knew that I had my book is an alternating

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timelines, and it wasn't at for us.

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I wrote it linear, and I, after I, I knew that it would be better

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in the alternating timeline.

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I knew it.

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But I didn't know it till I finished it, which of

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course the hardest way possible.

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So I, yeah, I, after a hundred or so rejections, I re ripped the book apart

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and did the alternating timeline.

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Kept sending it out in great response, but it just wa wasn't happening.

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But, so in the interim I sent it, Oh, sorry.

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I sent it to a bunch of publishers too, like medium

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presses, small presses, all that.

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Yeah.

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And I had an acquisitions editor that messaged me back and just

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so got the book like, It was, I just really felt a connection

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with how he felt about the book.

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And I went through the whole process of being then it went through the next

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set on the next, and they they took it.

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So I was just, I just felt like it found its home.

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So that's, that, That's And who do you publish through, if

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you don't mind saying Kohler.

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Okay.

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That's what I, so I did my, my book is linear, but in multiple

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occasions at the same time.

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Oh.

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Interesting.

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Like I get, Oh, did I need, did I remember the name of that person?

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, There's different characters in different places at the same time.

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Yeah.

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Like at the same time, some people are in Russia.

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The, there's things going on in DC interesting things going

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on somewhere at the same time.

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So I switched back and forth.

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Yeah.

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Location.

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But I, Yeah, that's difficult too.

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That's I really I writing just a linear book about a weekend just seems

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like a dream to me now, it's just doing the alternating timeline of every

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chapter of my book starts off with the Georgia, the protagonist journal and

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tree, like the date right in a little.

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She's Ari she likes to journal, so there's a little quote that

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she writes, and it lets you in on what's gonna happen in the chapter

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a little bit, what her thoughts are.

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So that kind of helps the reader keep track.

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But readers are fairly, I think for the most part, readers are

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fairly they're really fairly intelligent and I think sometimes

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we don't give them enough credit.

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I've seen books right now where they're, they've gotten rid of dialogue quote.

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And I've, and I just reviewed, Yeah.

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And I just, My book would never work without those You

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would know who's talking.

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I don't think some would, I don't think mine would either.

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There's a lot of inner thought in my book too.

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Yeah.

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But this book, it was I actually found it easier to read.

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It wasn't as distracting, like it wasn't so broken up.

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And so I think it just depends on the book.

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But some readers though too you, I don't know the alternating

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timeline, How you have it too.

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Some, sometimes I think it has to.

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You really wanna make it clear, but sometimes I think, I don't

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wanna be, you don't wanna be too much of showing telling and

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not showing we're right here.

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They can figure it out.

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So what else is anything else you're stewing on or started on or,

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Yeah, so I God, it would, whoever thought like you'd have to market

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so much because I haven't even touched anything in my next book.

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For a month, and it's bothering me so much because I've been just marketing.

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But I have to writer's write, You have to write.

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So I'm Nano Rhino is coming up in November, so I have to get on it.

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But I'm about halfway nano writer, Rhino Nano Nano Rhino.

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It's like the month of November.

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It's it's a contest and they have it all over the place where you have to

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write a novel in about a month or 50,000.

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In a month, and then there's contests and all that stuff.

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It's pretty cool.

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And it's a goal, right?

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It's a it's a lot.

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But my next book, I'm about a little, almost halfway

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through and just so excited.

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I it's wasn't I wasn't, I was writing something else and something happened

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on the outskirts of my life that there was a trial, there was a conviction.

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It was fascinating.

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The characters were fascinating, and the subject was fascinating.

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So I just, Sorry, I keep saying fascinating.

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. . So I, I started inspired by this and I'm trying to do this justice, like

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my book, The Silence and the Sound now is, I've had personal experience with

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this growing up in addiction and all.

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What's going on there?

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I'm doing a ton of research.

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I wanna do this justice and it's, I gotta get on it.

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I do a lot of research for my books.

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I want it to be, mine is like realistic fiction, so Yeah.

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I want it to be believ.

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It makes sense, right?

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So I do a lot of that research and but I enjoy it and sometimes

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I just get on a roll and I'll just start writing and it just flows.

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I really I wouldn't say writing is such an art and a craft, and I don't

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think you can ever really master it.

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I think it's always a learn.

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You're always learning.

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And I always say I'm not the best writer, but I'm.

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I'm a great, a good or great.

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I've been told.

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I didn't say it, someone else said it, but I'm a great storyteller.

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I can tap in.

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I like writing about the human experience.

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I like writing about humans and the multilayers of them, and I feel

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like I can really grasp that well.

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With a good editor and good Baer readers.

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I can hope, hopefully nail this book, . Well, Good.

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So I already finished my second one.

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It's called Cobalt and the editors or the, my publisher's looking

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at it or hopefully start that process here next couple weeks or

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whatever out by March or whatever.

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What genre is it?

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What kind of fiction?

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It's realistic fiction.

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It's a espionage military thriller.

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Okay.

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Sort of book.

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It's, but I put humor in it too, right?

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Cause there's humor in everyday life.

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Everybody doesn't have to be like, all bummer.

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All I do too.

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I have, I put humor in it.

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Mine is, so my book and the way I write being around one of the

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greatest writers of all time, Mr.

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Styron.

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gall to tell him I, I was writing, or I had written a book a little, I

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started a book about a Virginia bar.

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Let read, let me read that book.

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. He said, I said, I, he said, Why are you writing about Virginia?

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Do you know anything about Virginia?

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And he said, Why are you ri, do you know anything about horses?

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I said, No.

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And he said why are you writing?

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This write about the steeled adage right.

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About what you know and if I write how I speak a little, or I'm New

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England, I'm Boston I'm snarky, I'm sarcastic, I'm like all these things as

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a real New England voice to my writing.

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I oh, I grew up in New York and California, Spain, Arkansas.

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I've been all the, Oh wow.

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I dunno if you even have an accent, but I did do some work in.

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Mention Jesus Boston Scientific long time ago.

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I used to go there every week for about four months.

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That's interesting.

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My publisher, my pub, you what you write?

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My publisher write.

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So they publish a lot of military books, espionage mil, a lot of military people.

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There's all kinds of books that I, It's I'm cur Who's your publisher?

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Defiance Press and Publishing.

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Oh, okay.

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Out of, they're out of Houston.

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Area north of Houston.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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So it's interesting.

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I never thought I would do it, to be honest with you.

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No.

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Nor anybody that I know whatever thought I would do.

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I was saying to they, in a, in every, almost every interview I've had

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someone people have said what advice would you give to other writers?

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And my number one advice is, you ha a hundred percent

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have to believe in yourself.

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Be disciplined, believe in.

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because writing is the loneliest journey.

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Yes.

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Everyone's writing a book or everyone wants to write a book.

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There's so many people that just wanna write a book.

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And so when you say to someone, especially your first novel, and I can

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only speak to that's what I shouldn't say especially, but when you say to

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someone, I'm writing a book, even my own mother's Oh, that's nice.

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The same thing my friends, so I already told 'em, so I had to.

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Oh Yeah.

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It motivates you.

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And no even even talking about the marketing.

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So I was on a podcast a couple weeks ago, and so I created a team in the

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book, and it's gonna have a series of, in this book, in, in the, in this team.

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And we're talking, he goes how how are you gonna market that?

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And I go he said what about branding said, So I'm like, Darn.

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So what I did, I went out there and secured a website called teams tech.com.

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Oh, My team is gonna have an online presence of their own.

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So the team in the book.

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Yes, will have their own online presence.

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Yes.

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What will you do with it though?

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To have like their profiles, mission profiles Oh yeah.

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What's the next mission?

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They can, There's even an email address, a video that I put in the book that

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people can email that and it come, it goes to that email address and get replies.

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Oh, that's kinda cool.

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That's different.

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Yeah.

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So it's kinda, I think, what the heck get, buy a website for pennies on the.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I like that.

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That's different.

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Yeah.

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But you have to try so many things.

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Like you just have to see.

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Oh, no.

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And I, you know what I do believe, Someone said to me don't I

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think you can get lost in feeling like you have to be everywhere.

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Like you have to be on every social media site.

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Yeah.

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But Really do the some of you like better than others or if

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there's a I prefer Instagram.

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It's easier for me to do.

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I can't even get into TikTok.

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I'm like, Oh God, I'm, Oh my God.

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No, I can't do that.

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I'm on there and I'm old and I just, I'd rather go on there

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and make fun of my husband.

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Then talk about the . Maybe they should have TikTok for seniors.

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They should, Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You know what that is?

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Don't, No one goes on it.

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. We're napping.

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Boomer talk.

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They're called a boomer talk.

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Yeah.

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. No.

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The social media presence is.

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And I'll tell you, it's true to get an agent.

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And I've heard from so many sources, agents themselves that have said, If

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you don't have a social media presence, then they don't, They're not gonna

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take you if you, cuz they don't even, it's it's not 50 years ago where

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they marketed the hell outta you.

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You have to market yourself and if you're not gonna, they're not taking you.

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No I agree.

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So I, when I had my own company, I had online presence, but then

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I decided not to have one anymore.

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Then I have to get back into.

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And so I, I'm getting anything where I can schedule.

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Tweets and different things where I don't have to do it every day.

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I can schedule it in advance where unless something cool happens, then

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I can go out and send a tweet or Facebook and things like that.

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So it, it's all marketing and marketing background.

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Anyways, I do that too.

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And I, and then someone said I had a, this gal that I was, did a library

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event with, she's an author too.

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She said, God, you're everywhere.

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I'd love to hire you from my book.

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And I'm like I don't have time for that.

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But the only way be everywhere.

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How much?

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How much What are you gonna pay me?

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? Yeah, you'd have to pay me a fortune because the actually, when you go to hire

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someone, like even my publicist they have a separate cost and department that does

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like social media and there's tons of people that'll manage your social media.

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They charge you a fortune to just do four posts a week?

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Yes.

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I'm a beast on there because it's my book.

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So if you are not, if I'm gonna pay, I'm gonna pay someone all

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this may do four posts a week, It's not gonna amount to anything.

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I can do that.

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That's, But some people can't do that, but I'm just like, you're

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not really gonna get much traction.

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Like you have to engage a little, which.

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You gotta take breaks from it though, because I get Oh God, you're, Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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I try not do anything on the weekends.

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But the key is market and then market again.

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But you know what, too though?

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You're your first book.

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It's my first book.

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Yeah.

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I feel like even though I'm exhausted and we're establishing our writing career,

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we're establishing our author presence.

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It's a ton of, usually people, it's a ton of work at first and hopefully then

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the more you know, we'll put out another book and it might be a little easier.

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We already have a good amount of follows.

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We have some people that have read our first book and all those things,

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so I'm just hope you know, it's an investment in our, and everyone

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else should think of it like that.

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It's kill yourself grind, hustle because it's an investment in your

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writing career and if that's what you want, no, I agree that, yeah.

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I never would've funk it six, eight months, 10 months

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ago, I said, You're crazy.

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Have another beer.

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You're crazy.

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Yeah.

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But, so it's great.

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No.

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Okay, so tell us about your book, a little bit, about your book

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again, because I want everybody to understand and what it's about.

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Where they can get it, where they can contact you and 1, 1, 1 bit of.

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Bullet point, a one bit of advice.

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You can give either a new author or somebody that's been

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an author that's struggling.

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As I said, my books are coming of age story inspired by actual

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events and I, and to me, the most beautiful setting there is.

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And yeah, I've heard so many people feel like Marthas Vineyard is, a lot

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of people's, I've heard dreams bought.

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They're interested by it.

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They're intrigued by it, and there's.

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It's hon, it's honestly one of the most beautiful places ever and I can't

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tell you that it, the magic there.

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It's just I fell in love the moment I landed there and I really worked very

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hard to cap to try and capture that cuz I, if I didn't, I knew a lot of island.

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Folks would be very upset.

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So kick you off the island, like Gilligan's Island, they kick you off?

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I think so, maybe.

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But yeah, they could be a tough could be a tough audience.

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But , it's really a journey.

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It's a young woman's journey of self discovery.

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I'm not trying to sound cliche, but it's she, her cause and effect life

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of growing up on addiction that's she doesn't even tend to really

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realize And a spiraling love affair, friendship this relationship.

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Author that is subtle, but he, and he really is her grounding

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force, which she never really had.

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So there's, it's really a story about this three men in her life that have affected

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her life greatly and her relationship with them and coming out the other

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side and really figuring out herself.

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And the ending will surprise you as she has to make a heart rendering choice.

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With the help of her patient's most famous novel, she does this.

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So I hope that intrigued you, . Awesome.

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So where can everybody find you if they wanna connect?

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So I'm Diane c Braley, everywhere.

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Two Ns, d i a n e c.

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Braley, B R A L E Y.

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Twitter, Instagram.

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We already discussed this.

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Good reason everywhere.

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I'm sorry.

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You probably have seen me and you're probably sick of me and I apologize, but

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you know how know how you don't get sick of me if you buy my book, Take it off the.

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And Yes, I until you do a review, Until you do a review, until you do a

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review, then I will leave you alone.

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Otherwise, I'm the I'm the gustapo.

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I'm gonna show up at your door.

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. So where can everybody find your book at?

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Oh, it's an Amazon, all the sellers, Barn and Noble, that's on all the sellers.

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And if you can't find you can find it there, but you could

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also just support local, Always.

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Your local bookstore can order it if they're not carrying it.

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Beggar Town Books, it's all on the vineyard, obviously,

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and stores in Massachusetts.

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A good, I just I just saw this morning I'm in Flagstaff, Arizona

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Library, so that was really cool.

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Awesome.

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Yeah, and I'm in Ireland now too.

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There's a Conley's books in Ireland.

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now you can go and write it off.

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I know.

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And I just found out you can write off cuz I go the vineyard every summer

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and I shouldn't talk about all this stuff, but I do a lot of book events.

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This year I did a ton of book events and I can write the trip off.

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I'm like, Oh my God, I can write the.

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As long as it's legal.

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Yeah, my taxes.

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My taxes this year aren't gonna be fun cuz I have to go through so much.

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Cuz honestly, guys, it you.

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It takes money to make money and invest in yourself because you it

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costs I will vouch for that.

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Yeah.

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that.

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Oh, and a of advice.

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Yeah, you told me.

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So I said earlier, believe in yourself and I can't stress that enough.

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Please believe in yourself.

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If this is your dream, you have one life.

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You have one life to live, do it.

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Slow and steady wins the race.

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You are not gonna write a book, a first novel in a week, six week.

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I don't care what people say.

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I guess you can, but I got up at, I have a son, a husband.

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I don't even think their life became affected because why would it ? Yeah.

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I got up at five o'clock a every day and made sure I wrote, even if

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it was a sentence every single day.

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Yeah.

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Then my live, my life had to do what I had to do.

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And before you knew it, a book, Some Shape Way was formed.

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And now I really was like, okay, I ha wow, I have something here.

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And then I have to really crack down.

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And once you're, once, I know for me, once I'm like halfway to the finish line

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of something, I, there's no going back.

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I have.

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I've talked about it and talk about it and who cares If people

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don't listen, talk about it.

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Say why?

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Cuz it's a motivator for you.

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Talk, say you're writing a book, do whatever you need to do, but

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it's your journey, it's your life.

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Do it.

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You'll, I'm telling you, just do it.

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Yeah.

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You need to conquer.

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I'm an extrovert.

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I'm an extrovert.

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So a lot of authors are introverts.

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I'm an extrovert, so I will talk to anybody.

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My wife says I have never met a.

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So I grew, That's because I grew up in Air Force family moving every three years.

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You gotta make new friends all the time.

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Oh, you had to.

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Yeah.

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So it's easy.

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So I can shoot I can talk.

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I'm both like, I'm that like introvert, extrovert, even though

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I hate that I can't stand on people like these trend trendy terms.

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I don't know.

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But yeah, I can put myself out there, like I'm doing so many events, but then

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I really just get I need to rest from talking and whoever knew you, this is

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perfect for you because when you write a.

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you don't realize.

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I'm doing so much public speaking, which I have anxiety.

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I suffered from anxiety my whole life and it don't love public speaking.

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So now all of a sudden I'm in all these talks and libraries, I'm getting emails

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to do these other things and talk and I'm like, and if I collapse,

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so be it, whatever, but it's my book.

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I know the book.

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It's not like I'm giving a lecture like I had to study.

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That's why you can do it.

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I used to I do public speaking.

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I used to do public speaking and speak at conferences all over the world.

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And if you are confident in the subject that you're talking about,

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yes, it's, you'll have not, you will not have a problem if you don't.

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That's when it becomes problem.

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Yes.

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Cause people, and it gets easier.

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I get I get nervous and, but then it just gets easier and I just

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keep throwing yourself out there.

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Who cares?

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No one cares because you just do the best you can and it's your book.

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They don't know.

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Yeah, they don't know they're looking to you.

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So it's hard for some people and I don't love it,

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but I'm getting better at it.

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Yeah, I agree.

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It had been great convers.

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Can I just interrupt?

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Can I just say one thing I forgot.

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I apologize.

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Course.

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Yes.

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So part of the proceeds of my book go to the Robert F.

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Kennedy Community Alliance here in Massachusetts.

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And they have a division that helps kids affected by addiction, kids and families.

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And they help almost a thousand families in Massachusetts.

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They have a camp, they also have a juvenile justice program nationally,

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they're amazing organization.

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We're also working with the In the name of the book, we've,

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I've donated a experience.

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Mata Vineyard is a camp called The Fuel Program, and the kids go out on, there's

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a restaurant called the Black Dog.

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There's two tall ships, and they go out for a week on one of these

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ships, the Shenandoah, and they learn to sail and are taught all this.

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It's a, it's an experience of a lifetime.

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Cool.

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So cool.

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And we're donating an experience to one of the RFK kids in the name of the book.

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So just you're supporting a great cause too.

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And it's just there's often, there's so much funding and there's so

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much help for people suffering from addiction and there's nearly, not

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nearly enough, but there's rarely, there's hardly any help for the kids.

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And these kids have a higher tendency.

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They're.

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Have a higher tendency to be addicts themselves or live a life of dysfunction

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and anxiety, despair, all these things.

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And helping the kids to me is a huge deal.

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I'd love your support.

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So you helped out Diane and she a philanthropist, so also there

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philanthropist, so that's awesome.

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No, that'd be great.

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And.

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Again, folks, go out there and support her charity that

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she very strongly believes in.

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And if you know any any other authors wanna be on the podcast,

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please reach back out here to meet Travis at Random Thoughts Fight llc.

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But it's been fabulous and I wish you all the most success.

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Next time I wanna see some more of those awards in backing, I

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wanna see like a, Oh, think it's crossed . Thank you, Travis.

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Thank you.

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We'll see.

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