This podcast episode delves into the complex sentiments surrounding the celebration of the Fourth of July among the Black community, probing the question of what, if anything, there is to celebrate. The discussion unfolds with a critical examination of historical injustices that render the holiday's significance contentious for many Black individuals. As the speakers articulate their perspectives, they reflect on the dichotomy between enjoying familial gatherings and confronting the harsh realities of systemic oppression, highlighting the nuances of cultural identity and celebration. The dialogue further explores the implications of societal expectations and personal experiences, revealing a tapestry of emotions tied to the day. Ultimately, we aim to foster a deeper understanding of the implications of this holiday and its resonance within the Black experience in America. The podcast episode delves into the complexities of celebrating the Fourth of July from the perspective of Black Americans. The speakers engage in a profound dialogue that addresses the historical context and personal sentiments surrounding this national holiday. One speaker poignantly articulates the dissonance felt by many in the Black community, describing the day as a reminder of a painful legacy rather than a celebration of freedom. The discussion further explores the juxtaposition of familial gatherings against the backdrop of systemic injustices, highlighting how some individuals may struggle to find meaning in a day that symbolizes independence for a group that was historically marginalized. Through this exploration, the episode challenges listeners to reevaluate the significance of July Fourth and consider the diverse perspectives within the Black community about this contentious holiday.

Takeaways:

• This episode discusses the complexities of celebrating the Fourth of July as a Black American, highlighting the historical context and personal experiences that shape such sentiments.
• The speakers reflect on the impact of societal norms and expectations on individual identity, particularly regarding the celebration of holidays like Independence Day.
• The conversation emphasizes the importance of recognizing and valuing diverse perspectives within the Black community, especially in relation to historical events and modern celebrations.
• The episode also critiques the commercialization of certain holidays and the superficial ways in which joy and celebration can sometimes be expressed in society.

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Welcome everyone, to a brand new episode of five Minute Warning.

Of course, as always, it's your man Reuben in the house tonight.

And of course, as you can tell, we got a full house going on.

Hey, happy July 5th.

Let's get it.

How we doing?

Of course, first of all, got my cousin, my man AG what's happening, y'?

All?

How you doing?

And of course, notwithstanding the man that met the legend, Mo B.

What's going on, folks?

Whoo, man.

Happy July 5th, everybody.

I mean, why not?

We won't hear on July 4th, so enjoy the day that we had today.

Speaking of July 4th.

Woo.

We got a fiver question today.

Got a fiver question.

So we're gonna go ahead and get into.

So here it is.

It's very simple.

I don't need to go into history, none of that stuff.

We going straight to it.

Other than a chance break, a chance to break bread with family and friends, what do we, as non white, black in particular have to celebrate on the 4th of July?

Wow, this is going to be very, very quick or very, very longer than it should be.

I'll take either.

Could be both.

Could be both.

What you got?

Talk to me.

Well, you know, honestly, it's complicated.

At the end of the day though, there isn't anything to be celebrated the way I characterize the fourth of July, especially in this moment now, which is, if you're listening to this whenever.

That's what it's like to me as a black person trying to.

Trying to celebrate the Fourth of July because at the end of the day, you gonna get talked to.

Like, well, I was.

I'm the only parent you got, or one of the only two parents that you have, depending on your situation.

Yeah.

But you came in my room and you sodomized me every night.

So you gotta respect me.

You have to love me because I. I provided for you, I gave you all these things, blah, blah, blah.

So you are not allowed to say anything bad, even though there was many things that were bad, but you still were provided for.

You ate every night, whatever it is, sort of.

So that's what it's like for me.

So at the end of the day, I have to make a decision and go, no, I'm not gonna celebrate you.

I maybe appreciate, you know, living in a house or not being on the street, but you abused me my entire life, no question, whether you want to admit it or not.

And the idea that you don't want me to put our business in the street lets me know.

And actually, on top of that, people ain't dumb, but, yeah, I will send you a happy Mother's Day or Father's Day card, and we're gonna just leave it that way.

So to me, that's what it's like.

There's been too much being that was never mine.

Then I fought for rights to get.

Now policy says I can't have it anymore, or we're going that, but I still have to celebrate you.

Listen, there's only one group of people that can be happy about yesterday, and it's not me.

Now, do I acknowledge things?

Sure.

It'd be crazy for me not to.

Obviously, these things happen.

There were.

There were some sort of good times.

But am I gonna celebrate the Fourth, like, with zeal?

No.

No.

And at the end of the day, I'm not celebrating it at all.

It's like, okay, 250 years of you being foul and making me say that you weren't.

So that's where I am with that.

Not a long answer, but that's the answer to me.

Now.

Everybody doesn't feel that way.

I get that.

I saw a couple of pictures of some, you know, some black people wearing T shirts that I couldn't believe they were wearing.

But black people are not a monolith.

We are different.

We are not created equal.

I promise you we're not.

But for me, the day came and went because I wasn't at a cookout, so I couldn't get hot dogs and hamburgers.

So if that's not involved, then it was just a regular day.

It was Saturday is what it was.

So that's where I'm coming from.

All right, Moby.

Do you mean citizens to mock me by asking me to speak today?

Frederick Douglass said that on 4th of July when he was asked to speak, and he captured it perfectly.

Do you mean to mock me by asking me to speak on this day?

Because what are we celebrating?

And to celebrate this country as if somehow it is not what it is feels disingenuous.

Now, I, I, I'm with AG man.

If you are a white, Anglo, Saxon male America, y But I mean, for all the people who, you know, just became actual full fledged citizens and are slowly getting that stripped away day by day, I mean, you know, fourth of July really isn't our independence Day, especially when just a few weeks prior we talked about Juneteenth, which is the celebration of black people finding out a year and a half late that they were free, apparently, supposedly.

And ironically.

But I was on the phone with you, Reuben, and ironically, fireworks went off in the neighborhood where I'm at for like 45 minutes straight.

So there were no fire.

I'm not near a park or anything.

So it had to be people in the neighborhood doing fireworks.

And where I live, there aren't a ton of white people.

There's a lot of mixture of black and brown all around me.

So I'm just like, man,.

A lot.

Of Energy on 4th of July with fireworks and everything.

But on Juneteenth, like, I mean, I, I challenge that.

About 15 years ago, nobody in this neighborhood knew what Juneteenth was.

And that's, that's the paradox of this country, man.

Just, yeah, we're, we're celebrating for freedom that we don't have.

We're talking about the greatness of a country that we've never actually fully gained.

I mean, the words on the paper of The Constitution and declaration of Independence, all that sounds awesome.

We've never actually adhered to them and you know, only 250 years later and, you know, I guess we're still trying.

Question mark?

Question mark?

Yeah, man.

I mean, you know, when I was a kid, you know, you kind of force fed to celebrate fourth of July.

And, you know, it's summer break.

It's fireworks, you know, and our people really are suckers for shiny, man.

You throw some fireworks up, man, you say there's a cookout going on, you play some jamming music, and we celebrate anything.

Literally anything.

Food, shiny and music.

He did.

And until you pose this question, man, I was literally just thinking.

I was like, you know, I don't even think about fourth of July as like a celebration of anything.

It's just.

It's fourth of July.

That's when people don't have to work and we can have cookout.

That's really all I need.

And I was just like, damn, that's kind of sad, man.

We so easily distracted, man.

You give.

You give me a day off from work, a cookout and some.

Some music, and I'm just like, she.

Let's do it.

Party time.

Party time.

Party.

Oh, wow.

You know, it's.

It's hard to follow those two, especially when we're all pretty much like mine, you know.

Yeah, we all are brown because we a better to do entertainment, so is what it is.

But let's.

Let's go back to a couple things.

I. I have three dates I want to bring up.

If you are of the black community, and I'm going to say black community, because that's what it's about.

These are the three days that should mean something to you.

1.

That's when President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation, which legally free enslaved people in Confederate states.

However, for whatever reason, that message didn't get to Texas until two and a half years later, which I thought was a year and a half too.

Hold on, man.

So they knew black people were free.

However.

Yo, guys, we're just not gonna say no.

We're gonna keep this to ourselves, you know, don't tell nobody.

They don't know.

Whatever, Whatever, you know.

So for another two and a half years.

These in Texas kept slavery alive for two and a half years.

I mean, I. I guess.

Wow.

That's.

That's the history, right?

Is it wow, though?

Is it really?

Wow?

I mean, in many ways, they kept it alive for another hundred.

They just had to, you know, call them different things.

Exactly, exactly.

But, you know, we had to send troops from D.C. virginia, all the way down to Texas and being like, look, man, y' all need to stop this bullshit.

These black people free.

And they had to fly.

It wasn't no flying.

They had to literally walk or by horse or whatever.

That's a long motherfucking ass way by a car is like two days.

So it took these like two weeks to get there to tell a whole bunch of people.

And Texas biggest.

That ain't free.

So they had to go through all Texas and let everybody.

Hey, black people.

Y' all free, man.

Y' all ain't gotta listen to those dudes no more.

I mean, my assumption is it was a bad day for some people.

Uprising.

I won't dare.

And I don't know anything about that.

I would challenge that.

The reason that the troops were there was to make sure that word uprising didn't actually happen.

I mean, you know what I mean?

Just because they were coming to say, you know, slavery is technically not legal, didn't mean they actually still respected those black people.

So.

And you're incorrect there.

They just said the people are free.

Another seven months, six months later, it was abolished.

So, look, man, real talk, all these people were free, but slavery was kind of still illegal.

It was still legal after that.

They called it, what, sharecroppers.

I mean, the only difference was there was money exchange at that point.

A little bit.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's the only difference.

You know, two cent on the dollar,.

But still.

Right.

Like, you know, and.

And Moby, you are 100.

Correct.

I promise you.

I promise you.

I didn't know what Juneteenth was until after covet.

I mean, and I've been black all my life.

Maybe because it didn't affect me because I'm in Virginia.

Can I say unpopular thing?

I still hate.

I still hate the idea of celebrating.

Juneteenth celebrating about being two years late.

CPT time, baby.

And it won't even.

Our fault.

It won't even.

Yeah, you can't say CP time on that because the delay wasn't us being late.

So this is why I will call CPT on CP time on.

You're right.

It Wasn't our fault we were late, however, I mean, once again, I just literally said I was 40 something year old before I found out what Juneteenth was.

Oh, that was on purpose too.

I mean, and in many ways, why.

Should you have unless.

Unless you actually were a resident of Texas.

Because people in Texas are probably more aware of it going forward, but like, that makes sense.

But in Virginia, why.

Why would you be celebrated?

Because they don't put that in history books or nothing.

So if it wasn't a regional thing to celebrate, why would you know?

Exactly.

I still find it hard to believe that people in Texas knew.

I need some proof from people in Texas that that's a regular thing for them to learn in their state.

Because I didn't say it was a.

Regular thing for them to learn.

But I'm.

I'm sure I actually know a couple I've known people take.

They're like, yeah, we were aware of it.

Okay.

Okay.

Even being aware of it, it wasn't a celebratory thing.

Like the whole idea of celebrating it that.

Yeah, fairly new.

Yeah, yeah, new.

Like Bob made that a thing when he was president.

He made that a thing.

He did that on purpose.

So it is fairly new.

I mean, yeah, but it's.

Yeah, shit's crazy.

So it was called something different back in the day.

It was called Jubilee Day.

Now, once again, that might have just been in Texas because I had never heard Jubilee Day either.

The only Jubilee I know is the chick from the X Men.

So, like, I. I can't do nothing about that, you know?

But once again, y' all very correct.

Why should we know we're in Virginia?

I don't know.

I think.

I think people that are, like, well versed in black history and social media had a lot to do with that.

Covid also, like you said, Covid had a lot to do with it too.

All of us home, all of us are locked into social media for so many different reasons or the television or whatever.

But I do believe that people that are in the know of the black experience from a historical standpoint, had a platform and it actually was happening before that because like I said, Biden is the one that made this a holiday.

He made.

He went out of his way to make this a holiday.

So.

But again, for me, the experience was.

And I learned a lot myself because it was just like a lot of things I just didn't know.

But a lot of that is due to Instagram, fast information, and people that don't have restrictions on what they say, because Instagram is, like, for everybody.

You can say hateful stuff, you can say uplifting stuff and everything in between on Instagram.

Instagram has a lot less rules.

You know, you just make your algorithm what you want to make it, but you can hear and see anything you want, almost.

So being that as it may, you can't.

You're not going to have people saying, well, this is crt, or this is, you know, I have black fatigue, and we can't.

You don't have that, so you can say anything you want to.

And I really do feel like that had a lot to do with people really being aware, because I knew about it before y', all, but did I really.

It was only like a year or two before that.

That's not really known before y', all, because I would think that we should know.

Should have known about this our entire lives.

However, this is where we go back to not being able to say what you want to say.

They're not trying to teach this stuff, man.

And now it's even worse.

I mean, they weren't really trying to teach you when nobody's saying nothing.

So, you know, all that stuff matters.

All that stuff matters.

So that's what.

That's what I feel like when, you know, black people that aren't necessarily in the know but definitely want to receive this information just don't know certain things.

So.

Yeah, it's just, you know, like I said, man, social media is not all bad, and this is one of those times where it's not.

Yeah.

You know, but as far as my experiences with the whole July 4th thing and.

And all that.

Wow.

I don't remember when I. I don't remember when I stopped celebrating it because usually I gotta work.

So, like, you know, back in my.

My former job at camp, nine times out of 10, we were at camp during 4th of July.

So, of course, proper circumstance, right?

You know, we're.

We're kind of forced to celebrate that because it's proper circumstance.

But even before then, man, I mean, I'm with y'.

All, it was pretty much a.

And if it wasn't 5 million degrees outside, I might have found a cookout or, you know, went out on the grill and cooked or some shit.

But, like, yesterday, I cut grass at 8 in the morning.

I was in the house about 9:30, done.

And I had to go to gym and all this other stuff.

It was hot as balls yesterday, man.

It was.

It was.

It was what's the.

What's the word for it?

Moby, What'd we use yesterday?

Began with a D. Can't remember word now, but it was pretty bad.

Talking about how hot it was.

Yeah, it was disrespectfully hot outside.

Yeah, it was disrespectfully hot.

Yeah, it was bad.

It was bad.

I mean, I cut grass, got a tamboura, like, so.

And I was not there long enough.

And I on purpose cut in the morning so I wouldn't die.

Well, I didn't die.

Tell me it didn't try, but.

So, yeah, man.

Like, the Fourth of July is.

I think the more adult I became, the less I celebrated.

But not for those reasons of the way we should not be celebrating it as black and brown people.

It was just.

What some was popping circumstance and the other was like, man, it's too damn hot out there.

It ain't got nowhere to go, so why we.

What we doing?

Like, but then again, as Moby said, I mean, all you gotta do is scream one or two things, man.

Cookout music.

And, like, you do that, you know, you.

You got people at a party.

It really.

That's one other thing.

I mean, when you were single, it was.

I mean, I'm not.

I don't think I'm.

I'm being real, man, as best I can.

Like, yo, man, Summertime.

The song Summertime, half that song talks about women.

Women.

Whether girls are watching me play basketball at the park, which I never understood.

But, hey, whatever.

Yeah, man, you wash your car.

You ain't wash your car because you ain't got to.

Do you watch your car to impress people.

Like, that whole song was about women and what.

What links you went to.

Hold on.

And what links you went to.

To impress a girl at summer so you can get some booty.

I just want to let you know, I agree with you the first time.

It's just.

I like when you use the word women.

That's a little better.

I mean, you know.

You know, I think.

I think you took a.

A large portion of it, but it really is about summer nostalgia.

Because he makes references to how the smell of a grill can spark up nostalgia.

Talking about old stories.

It.

It's really.

It's the teenage, young male summer.

That's what he.

He described a teenage.

Which isn't all about women, but I will say a lost chunk of it.

Is, you know, I mean, the song, Summer madness rolling through the hood, but.

You can't speed through two miles an hour.

So everybody.

Everybody sees you.

I mean, but the Song, the original song, Summer Madness is literally about getting, getting ready to go out and pick up some women.

I mean, it's what it is like, I ain't mad at it though.

Summertime is an all time classic.

You know, most people can't tell you what Summer Madness is, even though he tells you that he, he literally jacked it from that song.

Nobody knows this.

Nobody's heard that song.

I, I honestly, I can't even tell.

You who Suck It Cooling again and our parents heard it.

Yeah, that's right.

That's right.

Now.

See, and I remember it just because of the sound and, and yeah, that.

I don't even know what that.

That is, that horn type sound.

I just, it just stays in your head.

Yeah.

So, I mean, I, I think we all agree the 4th of July is not necessarily for us, but we're gonna, we go.

We gonna at least try to get the positives that we can out of it, which is usually a day off.

And you know what?

We might mess around and hang out with some people if it's not, you know, disgustingly, disparagingly hot out there.

Like, like I'm be real, man.

It was like 103 yesterday.

I don't understand how beaches, people at beaches.

Like, I don't get it.

How are you outside with no shade, no clothes on, and the sun just saying, here you go.

Here's.

Here's some, here's some, some.

Some skin cancer for you and some skin cancer for you and some red for you.

Like, bro, man, all I can say is I'm proud to have melanin in my skin.

Knock on wood.

Knock, knock, knock.

I've never gotten any type of skin disease or whatever, and there's just a whole category of people who literally sit outside to get darker and then turn around and hate us.

Like, how that works I'll never understand.

But I guess that's what it is, right?

I mean, I, I've all.

Honestly, as growing up, I never truly understood that you hate me, yet you want to be my color in the summer.

Maybe more my color because I'm brown.

Not.

Not Moby shirt color because me, I don't know.

That was a good question, Ag.

Thank you.

You know, while we got a little time.

Look, man, part of me is happy and part of me is I hate it.

And this is going to be a very unpopular opinion.

I don't know if you heard, but there's this little thing called a World cup going on and United States still in it.

Go usa.

So Flo, Baligun got a red card in the last game, which means he suspended for a game.

So it comes out today that they suspended his red card, so he gets to play tomorrow.

Part of me really wants to be happy.

But then I found out more information which does nothing but piss me off to the highest level.

Apparently.

Apparently, Donald Trump called the FIFA president and asked him to take a look at it.

Now, the rules state it could not be challenged or overturned by coaches.

Coaches can't challenge it.

Sorry about your look, your shit's done for.

However, there's a rule in which FIFA may suspend that.

However, if we're having a full value.

If he does anything else in the next calendar year instead of get suspended a game, it could be more and that sort of thing.

But if he does nothing and everything's cool, it's pretty much wiped off his record, man.

Once again, part of me is excited and happy that he's playing.

Part of me wants us to lose tomorrow night.

I don't really want us to lose, but there's a small part is like, you know, if Flo scores a goal and we win, we gotta hear from Mr. Red Face or Orange Face.

Excuse me.

Oh, I did that.

I made a call and I made things happen.

I don't want it, man.

I don't want us to lose.

Honestly, I just wish he didn't.

I wish they wouldn't play him.

So then if we do win, we can't say, hey, we won because of yo bitch.

But that's.

I'm torn.

I'm torn as a soccer fan, I'm torn as a sports person.

And I'm torn because I really don't like our president.

And the fact that he could get any positive from this event does nothing but make me upset.

After, like a year ago, he accepted for six months ago or whatever, they gave him this Peace Prize award,.

Just.

A laughing stock, man.

We saved up an award just for you.

Yes, a laughing stock.

It just is.

And it's just.

And the fact that, like, at first I saw the tweet saying that, you know, I call FIFA, blah, blah, blah.

But then I read further, I read some other stuff and it was.

They verified it.

And I was like, motherfucker.

I just thought they was like, well, we're gonna resend his card.

Cool.

Now I come to find out this motherfucker did that.

And because the FIFA dude is in his, you know, on his knees, in his pants pocket.

So disgusting.

So disgusting.

So disgusting thoughts.

I thought she was gonna go a little deeper because, honestly, we're Gonna be viewed as cheaters and you can't defend it.

Exactly.

That's the other thing.

Lord knows, let's give the other countries a reason to hate us even further.

I mean, even if it was just in the soccer world, it's just like.

Well, I can't really say that because the World cup is really low key, athletic United Nations.

That's what it is today.

Yeah.

And this stuff matters.

It's been really good so far, man,.

Listen, Donald Trump from a.

Like, when he thinks of this within his own mind, this is somebody having all the power in the world and flexing, which is fine.

But what he doesn't really like work through in his own head is like, what is this gonna cost?

Like we almost, we could be going to war with Russia via Poland if things work out just right.

The problem is he doesn't think that, nor does he care.

Well, I hear what you're saying, but I'm like, again, yet again, here we are.

It's like we're in a situation that he has initiated where it's going to cost everybody but him.

And so I'm like, yeah, man, when Lauren told me that today, I was like, so now we out here, like in public, in plain view, influencing the outcome of one of the biggest sporting events.

It actually is the biggest sporting event in the world.

Like for real.

This is what we're doing.

And the idea that he succeeded that fast and that easily, man, it's America being America as far as the rest of the world concerned.

And I can't defend it because it's exactly what happened.

So, man, look, man, it was, don't get me wrong, it was a horrible call.

He shouldn't have got a red card for that.

Oh yeah, definitely not.

I yellow card at best.

However, let the, let the call stand because it has to stand for everyone else.

So I feel like, hey man, I did you a favor and I let you charge all kind of money to, you know, to have the World cup in the United States and all that.

I didn't, you know, I calmed ice down so people didn't get deported.

All the things do me the solid because if you don't guess what, I feel like some of that might have got said.

I can't prove that, but I'm telling you, this dude seemed like he made a five minute call to the top of FIFA.

And after the five minutes was over, a very important player on the United States team can play in a match that he's not supposed to be playing.

The optics are so terrible.

I Don't even know if it's the optics.

I think the whole thing is actually, to its core, awful.

It's just evil.

And it goes and it goes and it goes to the corruption that's been going on since he's been president the second time.

Oh, and that guy's super dead.

So, like I said, man, it's just like everything you said is true, but I feel like it's like, topical stuff, man.

You gotta go deeper with this.

This is.

This is so bad.

This is.

This is.

This is bad on the level of world affairs.

It just is.

I guess I didn't go deeper because, you know, it's probably.

It's definitely my fault, you know?

Cause I thought pretty much everybody knows the leader of FIFA is super dirty.

Like, he is Scarface dirty.

Like, so disgusting.

I wouldn't say that.

Scarface did have a moral compass.

I'm just saying this dude.

But really, I'm not even talking about him.

I'm talking about our president got on the phone and said, hey, man, what we doing?

Fix it.

This World cup shit might be over after this.

Well, I don't see it ever happening here again.

Time.

Well, I mean, the World cup is going to move on.

I don't think that we'll be a part of it as a host anymore.

I mean, so it's like every 20 years or something.

Okay.

I mean, yeah, we won't be alive for it probably, but still, it's.

It's so disgusting.

I. Moby, what you got, man?

I mean, all the things y' all said, but, I mean, I'll be the anti American person.

I don't want us to wait anyway.

So, I mean, I just don't think, as a nation, we deserve it.

And.

And what I mean by that is I am generally here for the party.

So whichever party will be the biggest as a result of that country winning the World cup, that's who I'm rooting for.

And America will have a fake party because we'll.

We just like saying we're the best, best.

And it'll be, you know, it'll be in all the commercials for a couple weeks.

It'll be, you know, oh, is this gonna start the new wave of American soccer?

And in a year and a half, maybe not even that long, when football season starts, it'll be like, all right, that was cute.

Agreed.

Yeah, but if these other countries win, man, like, I was in the store and there was a couple guys who are like, hardcore Mexico supporters, and I'm just like, yo, Yeah, I was Like, I would love for y' all to win.

And they was like, you're not going for America.

I'm like, hell, no.

Cause Yalls party will be dope.

And y' all will party for four straight years.

Like, that will be until the next World Cup.

I'm here for the party.

Well, we ain't got to worry about that.

I know.

I know, but.

But, I mean.

I mean, well, it's possible because.

Because, you know, I am not a soccer fan.

I don't.

But every time the World cup comes around, there's one team that I root for.

The only other country I've lived in for real, Belgium.

And, oh, who we playing?

Belgium.

And I'm just like, hey, you know what?

If y' all gotta take an L to somebody, that's fine with me.

You know, they're a little older.

You know, they're not.

They're not as.

As good as they used to be, but they're still Belgium.

I mean, I hear you.

And hey, man, in the optics, you're right.

It's more than optics, Reuben.

It's as AG Said, it's more than optics.

And the truth is, man, our president is at the age now where he just needs a chaperone, man.

And what I mean by, like, look, man, y' all don't have kids, so I'm gonna have to relate this to, like, when you have kids, man.

You know how you keep kids, like, engaged and happy?

You lie to them about little shit they do.

Like when.

When your kid makes a horrific looking picture, you go, oh, my God, that's so beautiful.

And you put it on the refrigerator.

Like, all Trump wants somebody to do is tell him he's doing a good job.

So he thinks, man, if I help United States win this game, people will say I did a good job or something, man.

He just needs somebody to be like, who's a good boy, boy?

You're a good boy.

Like, he just.

He just needs some support, man.

He just.

He just needs somebody to say, hey, man, you're doing a terrific job.

We value you.

Way to go.

Yeah.

Because most of the country ain't saying that.

I know, but see, that's the thing.

Like, we talking about how bad this looks, and you're like, oh, man, he doesn't think about how it looks.

No, because all he thought was, man, if I can get this dude to play and America wins, everybody would be, hooray, Trump.

And he.

He.

Yeah, that's all he want.

He just wants somebody to say, you're doing a good job.

Sir.

And your hair looks amazing.

I mean, we were good, man.

He.

He stuck his face in at the beginning, and then he.

He's disappeared.

And now,.

I mean, he.

He need.

He needs some.

We need somebody to constantly be feeding this man lies in the form of compliments.

Scooby treats just lies in the form of compliments.

Like, every time he walks in the.

To be some attractive woman going, are you losing weight, sir?

Nice.

How did you get your hair like this?

This is amazing.

Like, how do you keep looking younger?

Like, man, I wish I had the energy you had.

Like, he just needs somebody to tell him that all the time.

If we could get.

If we get a group of women and from the sounds of it, like, some attractive men, because he seems to be really obsessed with, like, physically scrapping young.

If we just get some attractive men and women to just follow him around and feed him compliments, pinch his nipples occasionally, he might.

He might actually not ruin the world because he'd be too distracted with getting his fix of compliments.

I don't know, man.

Because sometimes the other.

The dark side of what you said is those people actually will go further to get even more.

See, that's the pro.

That's the thing, man.

We need a dedicated group of people who are not trying to get something.

It's like, hey, man, you know what you're doing?

You're taking it for the team right now.

You're not trying to get rich.

You're not trying to get powerful.

Your job is to save the world.

Save the world.

One lie to the orange at a time.

Like, one orange lie at a time.

God, I'm so sorry.

My face just changed.

Crad.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We ain't got to worry about that.

Mexico, for real.

We ain't got to worry about that.

Yeah.

Jesus Christ, man.

Like, I. I mean, I looked at it.

It was zero.

Bad, man.

The party would have been epic, man.

Yeah.

Did Mexico lose in two minutes?

It's two nothing.

Ouch.

They're still in the first half, man.

It's two nothing in Mexico.

They're getting their ass beat on their home.

They just cause you home don't mean you're back.

Better.

Just saying.

Well, I mean, but playing in Mexico, man, it's like.

Apparently they were saying, like, it's higher up and then it's hot, and then you're from England, which they don't know what sun is over, which.

Which is kind of true.

The sun don't live in England too much.

Yeah, but.

But the pitch is the same size the ball's the same size.

Yeah, yeah.

We don't know how long they've been there.

Training, getting ready.

Oh, they probably.

Once they found out where that.

Well, they won, they probably headed out next day because they know that shit's.

Yeah, it's like 110 degrees degrees out there.

Stupid.

It's.

It's like.

Yeah, there's no want to.

I mean they get a hydration break now too.

Two of them, one each half.

Clearly that has not.

That has not helped Mexico because they just.

I mean it's not even a fact.

It's two nothing.

It's a fact that it happened in two minutes a piece.

Like they said scored and then they came back and scored again.

I mean that's almost the equivalent of a route.

It's okay.

I'm still, I'm still hoping for the party, man.

I mean Canada got their ass yesterday either.

See, Canada.

Canada didn't cite me as much cuz they not going to party.

Right?

But Max, bro, you know how the party and, and there's so many of them in the United States.

So the, the.

The party would have been like.

Like a half.

Like two thirds of North America would have been partying.

Well, see, here's the thing.

Here's the thing about.

I would say partying in Mexico.

It depends who you are.

It depends where you are.

Because you're right, the party is.

Is awesome.

Until you drop the World cup and a car runs over it.

Then your ass dead.

So like, I mean good bad, man.

It's good bad like they kill people for sucking in Mexico.

Yeah, I was gonna say if they lose, somebody's gonna die.

They could.

It's happening past.

Especially Colombia.

Colombia, it's the high risk, high reward.

Y understand how that party better you.

Keep that to yourself.

I mean, do you.

Do you know how much relief they will feel when they win?

Oh that.

Like I said, man, it'll be four years straight of cocaine al tequila.

And this is not me assuming that all the players are like drunk drug deals.

I'm just talking about like all the fans.

It just.

It's just be.

Oh, the tequila would be flowing.

Oh, bro, do you know how many random sombreros would just be walking down for no reason if they'd be so stereotypically partying, man.

Oh my God, man, just race as much.

No, no, no, I'm not.

That's the thing, Ruben.

I'm not talking about them.

I'm talking about just the.

To participate in the.

You see how these white folk act?

Pac de Mayo can You imagine, bro,.

He's not wrong about that part.

I mean, and, and hey, man, you know what?

I guess they decided that defense is a, a commodity.

Don't need because Mexico just scored a goal.

It's 2:1.

Like, this shit's just gotten crazy.

They feel my party mo.

My party live time.

They feel my party energy.

I'm sorry, I'm just here for the party, man.

Three goals.

I can't think of any country that the party would be better.

Three goes seven minutes, man.

Effing insane.

That's called.

We played defense.

We ain't played no defense.

The other team got happy.

They were up to nothing.

And they ain't playing no damn defense either.

Yeah, this could be bad.

This might be a game watcher after.

The show because like I said, you're talking about soccer and I'm just like, great.

I just want to get to the party.

I just want to get to the party, man.

He said, great.

I just want to get to the party.

The only problem is most of the party left because their teams got knocked out early.

I mean, Norway won.

So I mean, they still partying.

That's the thing.

That's what I mean.

Like, even when the World cup is over, if Mexico wins, we're so close to like so many people partying.

The party is going to be here too.

Like, bro, you, my neighbors next door are going to be rocking.

They're probably rocking right now.

You're probably right.

If I go, if I go outside right now, they probably watching it.

I mean, because I ain't gonna front, man.

I watched.

I've watched most of the games.

I think I missed what goes at 3 o' clock.

And now some of us gotta work in this.

So like, yeah, I, I sat there, go.

I'm in a house by myself celebrating when we score, dammit.

Like, it's great.

It's.

You know.

And see, for people like you, man,.

I,.

I wish more US people were like you because I know you actually like soccer.

Yeah, I played it.

But I know like 60% of the people who are like so invested in the World cup, they don't like soccer.

Well, half of, half of them are significant others of the people who like soccer.

So they don't have choices.

Sure.

Probably not wrong about that part.

That's a really.

That.

Yeah, that's good.

You write about that, I believe.

And then, and then, honestly, you're right, Moby.

Most of us are former soccer players.

Whether you play one year or 20 years.

And you wish you were kind of there.

Like, I don't wish I was there on the.

On the field, that I don't want that.

But like, a lot of these dudes who've been playing for, like, they.

They were playing for it, like, since they were five and.

And they played to club soccer in college and they weren't good enough.

Yeah, those guys are the ones you need to worry about because they're liable to go take the soccer ball from some championship game in high school, go out the back drunk and start kicking that after the game, after we win and destroying.

Those are the guys you need to worry about.

But see, but those are the guys I'd be happy for.

I'm happy for them people.

Like, it's.

It's the people who don't know anything about soccer who are.

Who are talking as if they are locked in to the sport.

And I'm just like, come on, man, don't do that.

Don't do that.

Because, like, look, man, you will not hear me do that.

I am a huge sports fan.

If we talk about football, basketball, baseball locked in.

And I don't even watch baseball anymore.

But I know enough about it where, like, I can have an intellectual conversation about the sport.

I ain't doing that with soccer.

I play one year of soccer.

That's it.

And I was like, no, I'm good.

I mean, you know, this is.

We'll bring something in.

We'll.

We'll finish this out.

Yo, man, man, I'm kind of.

I expressed this to Moby a day or two ago.

I'm kind of upset at our people, man, as a whole.

What do we do?

Here we go, AG I want to see if you feel like, here we go.

I mean, how we catch the strays.

Like, so hold on, man.

So AG Okay.

They're like, there are like four or five black players on the soccer team.

Team.

On the rc.

On US Soccer team.

Okay?

And like, three of them start.

Okay.

It adds up.

Because, I mean, anytime America gets serious about wanting to win, we show up.

Exactly.

So here's the thing.

You know, you go to World cup four years ago, it was like one.

But yo, man, you know what?

In this.

And I will sit here and say, I don't watch bet cause it's trash action.

But I feel confident, cuz I haven't seen.

I. I watch enough social media.

I watch enough commercials.

I ain't.

I. I ain't seen no thing on BET or what's that one TV one.

Or anything celebrating the black guys who are playing on the soccer team.

They ain't on the COVID of Jet or D on the COVID of Essence or none of that, man.

But I think.

Where we at, bro?

I think this show and a lot of other things in your life have answered that question already.

Black people, by and large, don't care about football.

Not European football.

But it's not.

But it's not the point.

The point is at some point, it is the point.

I hear what you're saying, but at some point you have to understand that black people don't care.

In fact, you will still kind of get a ding on your black card if you say, I play soccer for a sport.

But.

And see, that's the problem with us, man.

Why is that a problem?

Because, man, we're ready to kick people out to cookout yet.

You know what's gonna happen is.

That's right, man.

These black guys out here, you know, Chris, Richard, I think his name is.

I can't remember his last name right now, but he's like one of the greatest defenders in US Male saga history.

Like, he is great, great.

And like, yeah, man, but you know what they say some about if he was dating a white girl or married to a white girl.

Right?

That's what, that's what.

But you're, you're not going to acknowledge his success in a, in a white dominated sport.

I'm telling you, man.

A. A.J.

I just.

Let me ask you, that's what I'm.

Saying, some simple questions, AJ okay.

All those avenues that he said, like BET, TV1, Essence, TV1, Jet, what is their job?

What do you mean?

What is it?

What, what do they put content out for?

What are they trying to get ratings?

Oh, well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because you can't get.

So why would you put something that largely historically in this country is not going to appeal to your base?

Exactly.

I get what you're saying.

Now here's the thing.

If United States wins and they go do the Good Morning America will be everywhere.

It's exactly.

They'll point it out, then, oh, look, and it'll get a little bump.

A little bump.

It'll get enough of a bump for all those black sources that you keep talking about to then post it like that.

Do you realize, like, the black people who play the historically white sports that get big, they have to win at such a level that we have to put them out there.

Like, we didn't put Tiger woods out there just because he was a black guy, because there have been other black guys he had to dominate that.

And then they go, oh, yeah, yeah.

Put this black Guy out here.

Wait, I get what you're saying, saying.

And I, I, I actually am slightly empathetic to your feelings about it, because I actually agree, like, yo, we should actually embrace the idea that blackness doesn't look the same.

But in the avenues that their job is to get the most people to watch, they're like, no, we're going to do this.

That works.

We going.

We going to put.

We're gonna put.

Saying we're gonna put women acting like hoes or being hoes, maybe not acting.

Yeah, and you can put sexy red up there.

I mean, that's kind of a combination of the first two things.

I said I was gonna say that too,.

And I don't prove it.

And I'm not saying I agree with it, I enjoy it or I like it.

I'm simply saying you're asking them to say, our job vibes, let's make this dude happy.

No, no, I completely understand.

I, I just felt like it was important in a, in a conversation that we're having about not celebrating.

Why would we celebrate the 4th?

And as you talked about earlier, you know, music, food, and shiny, like, we, we good for that.

But all I'm saying is, like, this is, this is where the boondocks were.

So perfect.

Perfect because they called out all the inequities about how we celebrate black people as a whole and how we don't celebrate.

We don't celebrate the right and all.

Hey, look, man, you know what?

I'm gonna, I'm gonna say, you're right.

We don't traditionally celebrate the right stuff.

But I'm also gonna put some of the onus on the soccer players, and I'm gonna do it in a way that I'm not necessarily serious about.

About.

But, but there's so much truth in what I'm about to say.

Hey, man, if some of these U.S. black soccer players were acting like, stereotypical, like, if one of them had some goals in his mouth, if he, if he was, like, showing his chain at the end of it, like, hey, bro, we'd be like, hey, you know, you know what they say?

Oh, snap, Team USA got a real out there.

And see, you're right.

You're.

You're 100, right, man.

Oh, hey, they would be showing them all those sources you're talking about.

Would you be happy then?

No, actually, the one thing you did say is something that I feel like BET has to put out there to keep their ratings the same, and then, you know, reporting on something black people don't care about out is a black person that's married to the white girl.

That was.

That was classic.

Classic, bro.

I mean, that's.

That's really popular because is then you get black people riled up, especially black women, and then, you know, your ratings go up, People start talking, whatever it is, because I promise you, that's the only thing that matters in this country to black people about that sport.

He done made it now.

He got him a white girl.

He had the white girl before he made it.

I figured, I figured out how we can make team USA blow up on all the black atmosphere.

We need to get one of those black soccer players to come act a little stereotypical, put some gold in his mouth, you know what I'm saying?

Just like, be real swagged out in a negative stereotypical way and then walk to the press conference with his white queen on his arm like, bruh, we got gold right there.

Honestly.

Whoa.

Here's the funny thing, man.

I would almost be more shocked if they walked out with a black woman.

And see, you are contributing to the stereotype right there.

You person.

Person who's like, hey, man, I hate when.

When women put black men in this box.

Now you're just like, hey, I'm pretty sure them were white girls, though.

I mean, like, well, you know, I have no evidence either.

Or, well, because I've never seen.

But you're right.

You have no evidence.

But you said I'd be more surprised if they were with a black woman.

Therefore, I already know which way you're leading.

I mean, well, in their defense, they almost have.

Don't have choices, man.

You can't run around telling black women you play soccer.

You just can't.

Yeah, because, you know, even though they make millions of dollars, I was about to say, Ruby, you can if they.

If you lead in with how much money you make.

But black women, no, man, hold on.

Black women get ick about a lot of things really fast.

I don't know.

I just don't think you can do it.

I just don't.

I'm telling you, man, the ick disappears when you pull up in a Bugatti.

That's right.

I hear what you're saying, but like,.

All they might talk behind his back like this corny, lame ball ass nigga, but he got money, though.

Like,.

I just don't think.

I don't think a soccer player is.

Can date a black woman for real.

I just don't.

It's hard.

So.

So I don't.

So I don't watch a lot of international soccer because it's too much.

Too many people.

Too many.

It's too much going on.

I can't do it.

I mean, you know, most people, Most soccer fans in America either like Manchester City or Manchester United, so, like, that is what it is.

But, like, nah, man.

As Moby said earlier, there are a lot of black people who play soccer overseas.

Overseas.

Now they're more of your African black.

Because, I mean, it was kind of in Africa, so, like, you know, it's a little different over there.

So, like, yeah, I mean, but nah, man, I. I feel you.

Either way, it's like, I. I believe Mo B could be correct, but I also think he's correct because, I mean, for God's sakes, man, Russell Wilson is fucking rich.

And they called him a lame, cornball ass motherfucker.

And that dude's rich.

Rich.

I believe you.

But he also, when you close your eyes, you hear him talk.

He lame.

That's a black woman's definite.

He is a walking black woman's definition of lame.

And.

And Reuben and Angie.

I'm going to say this with all of my chest.

All of my chest.

All of the women that say he's lame would open their legs in a new admitted if that came and said, what's up?

No, I don't.

No, I can't agree.

No.

Now, they might not admit it to nobody.

They might not talk about it, but if they thought they had the chance to get some of that money to get.

To get.

To get close to that access.

And, and one thing he's got on his resume is, I mean, he might be a lame, but he did get Sierra.

So that.

That kind of.

That kind of buffers him a little bit because now.

Now the other chicks are like, like, what the does she see in him?

And that's after he married a white girl, man.

I hear you, but I was telling.

I was aj.

I was telling Ruben, Russell Wilson is like the greatest black man redemption story ever.

And we just.

And they just won't let him live, man.

Not at all.

Okay.

He.

He was.

You're right.

He has a very.

Straight edge.

Lame disposition.

I mean, he went to a private school in Richmond.

He went to a private school, made a lot of money, married a white woman.

Oh, he's.

He's not redeemable.

Oh, wait a minute.

He says, you know what?

Not with the white girl anymore.

I'm good with Sierra.

I'm gonna take care of future's kid.

I'm gonna have me a kid of my own.

I'm gonna be.

I'M yo, we.

We should celebrate the redemption story, the redemption arc of this man.

But you're right.

Hey, the problem.

Men.

Men is men.

We can celebrate this with damage because we can be like, hey, the glow.

Up is real, bro.

Like, hey, you might say.

You might say his football career fell off, but that nigga's winning life.

His sports champion.

That dude is winning life.

That dude got paid like 330 million.

30 Some million dollars not to play on a team.

Once again, dude is winning at life.

And you're right.

There's so many black women who are just tied to their Instagram stereotypical nigga.

There are so many women that even today, with all the empirical evidence of who these niggas are, still would fuck future first.

Yes.

And that's my whole point.

That's my whole point, because honestly, with Russell's situation, I don't think it was him as much as it is Sierra.

She's the one that.

She's the one that grew up and was like, hey, this is a good man.

I like him.

I don't care what y' all say.

Yeah, you're absolutely right.

But I'm just saying, from the outside looking in, man, this dude is a redemption story, man.

I can kind of see it because the particular white girl he married was not cute.

But I'm like, I don't know, man.

I just don't think black women can get over.

I ain't talking about black women.

I'm talking about us right now.

Down, like, oh, okay.

For all.

For all the dudes who was called lame, made some questionable decisions, you know, could.

Couldn't bag the hottie that they wanted.

He was like, man, you know, gonna be lame forever, you're gonna have to settle for these, you know, side class chicks.

And this ends up with Sierra.

And it's like, hey, bro, if you can do that, anything's possible.

And I mean, look, we can sit here, can't we?

And black women can on RG3 all they want.

That man actually married the girl he went to college with who, once again, she.

She ain't fine, but she is average and then leveled up when he divorced her and married another athlete who's way more attractive.

RG3 because he's a piece of person from appearances.

That, though.

But see, but that.

That's got to factor into the equation, though, man.

Like, look, we can say Russell Wilson's lame.

We can say all.

All the negative, stereotypical things, but you can't really say definitively anything bad about the dude.

Like, I can Say a whole bunch of questionable about RG3.

And this is based on what he said, not me knowing the.

Just based on how he talk.

Talks on purpose, live.

Like when he knows the camera's running.

Like, it ain't.

Like the white person that gets caught saying because somebody had a hidden mic.

Like, no, he knows he's saying the.

He's saying.

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And back to the show.

Here's the funny thing.

Here's the funny thing.

You know who is following Russell Wilson's footsteps?

At least.

At least relationship wise?

Dak Prescott.

Who's he dating now?

Dax Prescott.

He's.

He's dating some chick.

He was dating some chick.

They were engaged.

Not anymore.

He got rid of that white girl and she got a kid.

Well, actually, she's not white.

She's.

She's Latinx.

So, you know.

You're talking about the one that they broke up with right before their wedding.

Yeah.

Oh, she wasn't a white girl.

Which is kind of up.

But hey, with this.

Something to do with a prenup.

Yeah.

Should have signed it.

Yeah.

She didn't want to sign the prenup.

Hey, man, we.

We.

Male delegation.

Proud of you, my brother.

Exactly.

I was.

Yeah.

Hey, hey, Ruben.

Even right now, you gotta root for a cowboy this one time.

You know what?

He can't do it.

He can't do it.

He can't do it.

Look, man, when it's all said done, I am a believer of prenups.

I am.

Because if you make us, if you make a certain amount of money, like, let's be real, woman, that shit's coming.

That prenup is coming with it.

Don't date this dude.

If he makes over.

If he makes less, over $500,000 a year, you better expect the prenup.

And if you don't, then you're wasting a whole bunch of everybody's time.

Not really.

I mean, there's a, there's a simp born every day, baby.

I mean, it is, but most of them don't, don't make 30, 60 million dollars a year.

Some of them do.

There's a lot of simps that done got hit like that because if they didn't, we wouldn't be talking about it.

I mean, that's true.

But hey, man, at least, hey, at least.

I mean.

Cause the cool thing about Russell is he got rid of that woman before he got paid.

I mean, I, I hate, I kind of.

I never thought I'd be the person that said.

I kind of hate how you classified all these relationships by saying he got rid of her.

Like what?

You don't know the happened.

He divorced her.

That's what happened.

That, that's, that's a different term than he got rid of her.

Who divorced what?

Wilson Divorced.

Oh, right.

I thought you said Dak Prescott.

Apparently she was cheating.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Like, I don't, I don't know what that was about, but yeah, I heard that.

Like, hey, you know, I'm married to an NFL player.

You know what?

Let me go cheat on him.

Are you.

I mean, you might as just go ahead and break up and sign all the money away.

Like, what are you doing?

That's just not even a, a smart business move.

First, first of all, nobody typically cheats because it's a smart move under any circumstances.

Not really wrong about that part.

It's never the smart thing to do.

But if you're gonna do it, at least don't get caught.

I guess, once again, nobody goes into it with intentions up getting caught.

I have to agree.

He did, he did level up though.

He leveled his ass up high.

The Sierra is way more attractive.

I mean, she seems cooler, but I don't know her.

And you know what his.

And then the cool thing about it is, man, he probably wakes up every morning, looks at his stepson and like his stepson loves him.

He's like you Future, every day.

You know what?

And I can get.

That might not be the case, bro.

Come on now.

I get down with that.

I feel like Russell Wilson is a stand up type of guy.

Well, he don't look at that kid.

Thank Future.

He's like, I don't give a fuck about Future.

Thanks, Future.

Like, if you hadn't been you, she probably never would have decided to get somebody like me.

Do you know how scarred and damaged somebody has to be to go from what's socially acceptable as cool to settling for, like, the good guy?

Like, yo, I heard somebody say, yo, you never want to be the woman you're with.

First good guy.

You need to be the first good guy after the worst guy.

Because that's the only time she can appreciate you.

True.

I mean, and I would say Russell Wilson was probably just like, you never go broke making a profit.

Russell Wilson was just like, man, I get to just be me.

Yeah.

And this fine ass woman wanted to be with me.

You know, she probably shot a prenup like that doing full well.

She ain't going nowhere.

Which is never why.

I never understand why.

Why a significant other, whether it's a woman, man, would never sign a prenup.

If you're gonna enjoy the benefits of being with that person who makes a ton of money.

Reuben, tell me.

I mean, tell me why.

Because I don't get it.

It's just simplistic, man.

It's a lot to it.

It's.

First thing is you don't trust me.

You don't trust the relationship going last.

Anybody who does not any woman who doesn't want to sign any or male who doesn't want to sign is manipulating you.

Because there is no actual reason to not sign a prenup.

Correct?

No.

That's what I'm saying.

It's just manipulation.

Because simply put, it's like, all right, cool.

But if you got 20, 25 Rolls Royce, you better put some insurance, full coverage on that.

That's what a free number is.

It's the full coverage.

Full coverage insurance right here, man.

Hey, look, I'm not saying the accident would be your fault.

I'm not saying it be my fault.

Hey, some drunk driver could come hit us.

You know what I'm saying?

The whole relationship up, we ain't had nothing to do with it.

We want to blame.

But you know what?

Relationship over with.

So what you going to do?

Yeah, I just.