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51. Dreams - This Mystic’s Take on the Magic of Symbols and its Playground
Episode 5121st July 2023 • Mind Power Meets Mystic • Cinthia Varkevisser & Michelle Walters
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In this episode, we explore the captivating world of dreams, covering different types of dreams, their purpose, and the significance of symbols. We delve into lucid dreaming, waking dreams, and the benefits of dream analysis. Join us as we encourage listeners to embrace the wisdom and inspiration dreams offer. Share your own experiences and questions as we navigate the realm where "Reality is wrong. Dreams are for real." - Tupac Shakur.

Segment 1: Types of Dreams

- Explain different types of dreams

Common Dream Themes and Symbols
- Explore common dream themes and symbols.
Flying, Travel (airplane/rocket, car, motorcycle, bicycle), Body loss (teeth, hair, nails), bleeding, Sex, Recurring
Prophetic Dreams
- Difference between
- What it isn’t
- Example of what it is.
Lucid Dreaming
- Define lucid dreaming and explain how it differs from regular dreaming.
- Discuss techniques and practices to induce lucid dreams, such as reality checks, meditation, and keeping dream journals.
- Share personal experiences or success stories of lucid dreaming.
Waking Dreams
- What is it and isn’t
- Example of what it is.

Segment 2: The Purpose of Dreams

- why do we dream?

- problem-solving, emotional processing, higher learning

- benefits of dream analysis and dream journaling.

Segment 3: Analysis and Language Building

- Personal Dream Dictionary - (Michelle's podcast #49, dictionary, other people)

      1 in 68 Trillion - personal symbols (story of “Dove”)

How to set yourself up for common dreams

How to set yourself up for lucid or prophetic dreams

How to set yourself up for waking dreams

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To learn more about Michelle, visit www.michellewalters.net

To learn more about Cinthia, visit www.cinthiavarkevisser.com

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Cinthia Varkevisser 0:16

You're here with me mystic, Cynthia Varkevisser. And today we're going to talk about dreams. This is about different types of dreams, how we can work with our dreams, how hard our dreams are working for us. And of course, to piggyback on my friend, Michelle Walters, that mind power junkie for brilliant session. Number 49 of mine power meets mystic on how she uses symbols when she's doing her amazing work. So let's talk about it.

I have loved dreams my whole entire life. We have all loved dreams or been powered and fueled in a certain way by dreams. Our whole entire lives, not just me. If you think about it, historically, you will see people acting upon their dreams or using them as fuel or as a trigger to get them moving forward. In any kind of formed. The first thing that comes to mind for me, Joan of Arc, she used her dreams to know where to send the armies and lead the armies to success to victory. Right. I have two personal ones that still feel me to this day. And they are definitely not my favorite dreams. Like I have funny dreams for days. Beautiful dreams, prophetic dreams. Here are the two that I had.

One ever since I was little, which is I am a an American Indian warrior. And a leader. And I have taken my tribe up to the mountaintop where we can see out on this VISTA. And it's absolutely gorgeous. And we see the fertile lands, we see all these things. And I give this amazing whoop. And I send my hand out to the air with its spear. And it's just this huge whoop of triumph. And I turned around in my tribe is gone. And it still affects me just talking about it right now. And I know what it means, which we will talk about later. And even though I know what it means now it keeps unpeeling itself

like an onion. And it gets deeper and deeper for me as I go along. So it's it's an incredible journey these dreams. The second one was one that I absolutely loved. I had a dream that I was wearing gold in orange and I was walking up the steps. And I was super excited and incredibly nervous. Because what I was doing felt incredibly right. But socially, it was wrong. And I turned around at the top of the steps. And again, very similar. I saw this beautiful land, but this time the land has already been plowed and you know I'm on top of a temple and I get to see the orderliness and the beauty of what had been cultivated. And it's morning time and the It's a little bit cloudy, but the sun is allowing the clouds to dissipate. And it's a glorious, glorious morning. So those are my two dreams. And again, I still act upon that one. So one actually pushes and the other one pulls kind of weird. I picked that out of the, out of the whole lineup of dreams. And that's what I got so funny. So let's talk about the different types of dreams. Okay.

We have your let's call them regular regular dreams, which is dreams of flying. Like where you are personally flying. And a lot of people like to call that astral astral travel. And we'll actually talk about that if we have time in this episode, and if not just know that you can hit me up and say, Cynthia, you know, let's go back and talk about astral travel. And I'm totally happy to do that.

Than we have travel travel where we are in an airplane, or a rocket ship, we're driving a car, or we're not driving a car, but we're in a car, on a motorcycle, bicycle, tricycle, you get it right, it's a travel dream, then we have a body loss, or we wake up and we've lost our teeth, and we can feel our teeth,

you know, falling out of our mouths, or that we're losing our hair, or that we are losing our nails. And then there's the reverse, right, where all of a sudden we have this amazingly gorgeous hair. And then we have incredibly strong nails and they feel like claws, just all this stuff. Then we have those scary dreams, right? Those nightmares that are

you know about bleeding, like someone has stabbed you or shot you, or that you're on the hunt for someone or something else. So there are those scary dreams, those nightmares. Then we have the sex dreams, which I love how I mean, I do it too. When a sex dream comes up. Oh, and I see that person who I had as a second stream that come on, it was incredibly personal. It was for myself. It doesn't have to do with sex. And yet, I can't look at that person. Quite right in that moment, right? I mean, come on, I know that you've had that too. So just raise your hand and admit that you are one of those people. So we have sex dreams, and that we have those recurring dreams. And those recurring dreams tend to be a little bit bothersome.

Annoying. Sometimes they're scary. And they always come back and then we can fall asleep. And then they come back either.

Later that, you know later in that sleep cycle, or another time and years later, I had one it was crazy. And it started when I was really really little. And it continued until I was in high school. And it would freak me out even though there was nothing scary in it. Alright, so those are all the different types of dreams that are regular, regular. Okay, then we have prophetic dreams. And people will come up to me and say, Cynthia, I had this prophetic dream. And I always pick up my ears and I say, Okay, what's it about? And as soon as they say, Well, I was walking through the doors of something and I say stop right there. That is not a prophetic dream. That is a symbolic dream. So let me tell you how prophetic dreams work. A prophetic dream is a snapshot that tells a complete picture. So there is movement in your dream but it is incredibly short. Such as holding a baby in your arms in knowing that it's yours or knowing whose it is. And you know the gender. That is a prosthetic dream. One person I love this one. She said it was the weirdest thing. I knew it was spring and summertime, but it really felt like it was

fall and storming. And when she you know it, she talked about El Nino. It was the very first El Nino that had been discussed way back I think it was in the early 90s. So that kind of dream is prophetic. It is a very short dream. There is very little movement, but there's a whole lot of certainty and it paints a complete picture in a very short period of time. So that is a prophetic dream. As soon as you know that it's a little bit longer someone comes into your dream, something happens. sigh party people it is equally important, and yet not a prophetic dream. Okay. All it means is that you got to turn on a different dictionary you got to access a different dictionary in order to interpret that dream, which we'll talk about a little bit later. Okay, the next thing that we have is lucid dreaming. Lucid dreaming, to this day freaks me out. And it's a little bit different than astral travel because you are actually someplace else, you could be living another life you are there it is real, you can feel these things you are sensing the time it is, it is just, it is just a reality that you have stepped into. And it's hard to recover when you are waking up into back into this life. So sometimes you can't speak sometimes you want to move and you can't. That is lucid dreaming. Okay, now I've set those apart. Because we don't work in symbols when we deal with prophetic dreams, or lucid dreams. Okay? When we are talking about the, I won't call them common dreams, but the regular deck healers, we get to experience a whole new language. And it's the language of symbols.

It is a time when we are so worked up in our waking life, that once we fall asleep, we actually get to relax, we unclench our butts, we get to open up and become more porous, I think it's the best way to say it. And yet, we're not ready to access information. So we do it gently through symbology. Now symbology is basically substituting a word for a picture or a phrase for a picture. And everything is a symbol. Now, in a regular dream, you want to be really careful not to over analyze the symbols. So what I like to do in a regular dream is as I'm retelling it for myself, I hit the highlights, meaning, I don't need to know, if it was a windy day, what I what I want to remember is that the sun was green. And that took notice it gave me some kind of awareness. So you don't need all the symbols in a dream. But what you want to do is as you write your dream, circle, the things that are important to you. And I think I'm getting a little bit ahead of myself. But let's just talk about it is a symbolic dream, in which there are so many things that can feed you information in a much more gentle way than the harshness of waking reality in which we are taught to be led mostly by our eyes, followed by our ears, and not so much by our intuitive and emotional self. Okay. So that's what I want to talk about in just one moment. But let me back up and get back into what's the purpose of a dream, which is what I just said, it is a way for us to untangle something, to discover something

to get access to information in a way that we just can't access. At that time, during our waking life. It's a good way for us to problem solve. It's a good way to emotionally process, it's a good way for us to look at our lives from bigger scope. And actually, it helps us get into the core of things in a way that we can't have our best friends tell us right? Because we usually tell them to, you know, STF you shut the fuck up. We don't want to hear about that. I'd rather gossip about somebody else than to take a look at my stuff, right? So this is why we have dreams. And I am just going through the basics. Because remember, dreams are a language of its own. So doing this and in a one quick session is similar to getting to to learn

conversational Spanish, and then plopping you down in the rural town in Mexico and say, have at it. What I can do is give you the basics, like how much and where's the bathroom, right so we can get down to the basics of things. And if this is interesting to you, right, we get to go into it a little bit further, which

It would be amazing because I love symbology. This is a way that I got into my intuitive work from the get. I'm a very visual person. So I got to work with symbols. And it helped me connect with other people and how to do readings. So that's how I started off my readings as a baby into it.

So before I go any further, I want to remind you that you're listening to mind power meets mystic with Michelle Walters, the mind power. And me, Cynthia Varkevisser, mystic. Please like us, follow us. Listen to us, we've got a lot of good shit to talk about. And we are wildly curious about so many things that we want to have you come on our journey and have a great time with us. So now let's talk about analyzing our dreams. Okay.

Going back to the regular regulars.

The first thing that we want to do is we're going to talk about symbols. So Michelle, in Episode 49, talked about her eight symbols that she loved to use, and her interpretation how she uses these as a prompt or as a vehicle to what's going on in someone's life so that they can access more information. I am so down. It was a brilliant, brilliant episode.

However, sometimes

one person will say, this is a symbol for this interview, say I just don't I don't feel it in me, I understand. And it makes sense. But it just doesn't feel right for me. That's because the odds of someone communicating just like you, my friend, is one in 68 trillion. So if it doesn't resonate with you, it's okay. You are speaking a different dialect, in the language of dreams. So calm, be calm, and confidently use your definition. So here's a quick story about that. When I'm doing symbology, the first thing I like to do is pick a really universal

symbol, and let people put their own interpretation on it. So at the at the beginning of one class, I had them close their eyes, and I had a symbol of the evidence.

And I said, Okay, using one word, what does this what does this symbolize for you? So one person said peace. Another one said freedom. Another one said friendship. And another person said, clean, everybody started cracking up, right? Because they're thinking of doves, soap. And to me, that works. Because if that's what resonates for that person, then that is the symbol that they need in order for them to interpret their dreams. And that is called point out which means, you know, that's it. Final answer.

So pick the thing that works for you. Okay. And then what you're going to do is that, as you write down your dream, like I said, highlight the things that are important to you the things that struck you. So in my dream that I used for that I'm a warrior on a mountaintop, the thing that strikes me the most is no tribe is the warrior whoop with my hand in the air. Right? Then, of course, I didn't talk about it, but how hard that climb was to the top of the mountain. So

those are the things that I'd be working with. And if it was really sparse, then I would get into the details, sparse meaning nothing really struck me then I'd say, you know, when I turned around and I saw no people was, you know, where their trees was it arid where we in the desert, or, you know, it's a dream. So even though I'm on a mountaintop, like me that desert, was it Sunny, it was at night, all that stuff. And then we can use that as your symbol. If you don't want to do the day, then I can say what was I wearing?

To help get down into the nitty gritty of the dream. But again, you don't want to get too deep into it. You want to have enough information where you could say, okay, I can turn this into a reading or a meaty little piece of information for myself, which takes maybe five or six symbols, and then we go through each symbol. Okay. And then some people will say, well, Cynthia, what about what about, you know, I was scared, or I was lonely, or I was feeling strong? And the answer is that yes, that comes in to that.

Let's go one piece at a time, right. And so we're going to work with the symbology. So what I like to do is I take those symbols, and then I write them out. And then I like to marinate. And marinating is just kind of going through the descriptions or the definitions of each symbol. And just kind of relaxing a little bit and letting a story emerge. Right. And that's how your dream comes to be through symbology. Okay, so here's an example. One of the things and I'm going to use my symbols, one of the regular regulars that a lot of people like to talk about, are the nightmares, because those are for me, means wake up, wake up, this is something that you really need to pay attention to, which is why they're scaring you shitless. In this dream, usually someone gets stabbed or shot. So if someone stabs me, and they're stabbing me in the heart, then what is it that I'm going to use? I'm going to use blood, I'm going to use heart, I'm going to use was it a man that killed me? Was it a, you know, was it an animal? What was it? And I'm going to use those symbols. In my dream, if this was my real dream, I would say, Ooh, I'm having I'm having lots of energy in my heart. Right? And it's for something personal, because a knife wound is very personal. Right? So there's a, there's something going on in my heart. And then I need to see who was it? Or what was the thing that that stabbed me. And then that will help me figure out what is it that is affecting my heart chakra that's causing me to leak? All right? Does that make sense? If it does, great, write it down, and put your own bend on it. If it doesn't go, Fuck that shit. But here's the thing. In fact, that shit, you automatically know what your definition is. This is the beauty of symbols. Right? If you're in travel, we're gonna go talk about the things in my

dream analysis. Travel has to be it has to do with the mode of how you're carrying yourself. Right? If it's an airplane, that means you're taking off or you're just landing. If you're up in the air, it's it's like, where are you in your travels? How far down? Are you from the reality of things? Right? If you're a rocket, what are you taking off? How are you taking off? If it's a car, this is also a form of identity. So because we everything represents self in a dream, in a regular regular dream? So are you the driver? If not, who's driving your car? Where are you? Are you in the backseat? Oh, shit, right. So, so this is the thing that you want to take a look at? If you're driving? Are you driving downhill? Are you driving uphill? This is telling you how you are on your path? Are you in a highway? Are you in a rocky road? Are you driving off of a cliff? Right? Those are the things that you want to take a look at. Motorcycle this has to do with balance, right? How you're carrying the load with balance motorcycles and bicycles. So are you in control of your you know, your motorcycle or bicycle? Are you traveling fast? Are you traveling slow? are you handling the curves? Are you going in the straightaways. This is all about,

about self and how you're going through things. Okay, on your path.

Body loss has to do with actual energy loss. So loss of teeth, loss of hair, loss of nails, this is all about loss. Bleeding is also about loss. Now, bleeding of loss usually has to do with chakras, or the symbology of where you got stabbed. So if I got stabbed in my left shoulder, for me, the symbol of left means it's the receiving side, I'm how I'm losing energy on how I receive things. The fact it's the left side, how I shoulder things, it's probably how I receive information or receive

feedback. I may be taking it as criticism when really it's just honest feedback. And I'm being sensitive, right? sex dreams. sex dreams, for me, means that I'm doing some kind of intense integration. Right? So it doesn't matter if it's male or female or multiple people. It's an integration. Okay? It's also fun. I mean, I have yet to have a sex dream that I did not like. Then you have the recurring dreams. The recurring dreams are just one of those things where it's like, Hey, you are learning this

sed to say, way back in, like:

each other way back in Lagos:

As the months go on, she realizes that she keeps getting into these strange little tiny fender benders, in which she is never the

the person at fault. So she gets, you know, a ding over here, someone bumped into her back there, someone you know, hits this thing. And next, you know, her cute little car is scratched up and dinged up in all areas of the car, except for the back left quarter panel. So it's the passengers or the

driver side, backseat. Right. And at that time, I was just getting into the

business of dreams and symbology. And I'm like, Sonia, that means you got shit bugging you and affecting you and all different areas, except for this one little area of your life. And it is time to you know, work that out. I just want to remember when I remind you that at that time, I had absolutely no

diplomacy about it. I was very bossy. And so she's like, What the hell and it was, it was true. Every part of her life was affecting her and really getting to her and annoying her except for this one little piece. And so everybody has this weird piece of their lives, or not a piece of a moment in their lives, or something super funky happens. Mine also happens

to be one of my favorite ones, also happens to be a driving one our car one where I was driving a car that I wasn't so proud of.

I was crossing the Bay Bridge from San Francisco towards Oakland. So it's the bottom level of the Oakland Bay Bridge. And I'm driving in the right hand lane in traffic. And in a car that I wasn't really too fond of, because why it wasn't cool looking. Right? If I remember correctly, it was actually my mom and dad's car. That was an ugly beige, four door totally not cool for someone who's young and cute and hip and sassy like I was anyway.

From the, you know, in the right hand lane, as I'm hitting the halfway mark, which to me would be Treasure Island, Yerba Buena outcomes, this hubcap. And yes, that was before rims were a thing they were hubcaps comes rolling across from the far left side, goes across at least four lanes, hits me right smack dab on the driver side door. And I'm super lucky that it didn't hit the window, because it was going that fast that it created a huge dent in my door. And I'm sure it could have broken the window and in hurt me. And so that is so out of the ordinary, I have to treat it like a waking dream. Right? So I won't do a whole bunch of breakdown. But think about during the story. What, what things struck you. And that's what you want to write down. And then that's what you want to interpret. Take the take the symbols,

write them all into one big blob, let it marinate, and just like a good soup. It looks like crap and feels like crap and tastes like crap in the very beginning. But it turns into something super robust. If you just let it marinate for a moment, or, you know, sit for just a moment. Okay, so this is how we interpret dreams.

There, again, 101 in 68 trillion ways to interpret dreams. I'm giving you mine. I'm hoping that this opens it up a little bit for you so that you give yourself the space to play in this amazing world of dreams and symbology. All right. So let's do a really quick one last piece, which is how do I get myself ready for a dream?

intention, intention, intention, and a little bit of preparation. So for me what I like to do if I'm interested in working with my dreams, I have my dream journal pen and my glasses because I'm blind as a bat. And I say

please, allow me to have a dream that I can interpret and help me in my waking helped me in my life. I set it down, go to sleep. All right. And then I just start dreaming dreaming dreaming. And journaling, journaling, journaling. You don't have to interpret every dream. It's just the practice of journaling. Okay? If you want to set yourself up for a prophetic dream, lucid dreaming, same thing, astral traveling, same thing, set up the intention. Also set up the intention for safety. Right, know that you will come back from your lucid dream. Know that your prophetic dream is something that you will be able to handle in its truth. Know that if you are astral traveling that you will come back safely and landed softly into your body. Okay? And again, journal journal journal, because once you write it out, it becomes your truth. Otherwise, it's like maybe I don't know kinda

when it comes to intuition, kinda, I don't know, maybe it doesn't serve you. Faith in knowing that you have the truth, totally, totally serves you. And I wish that for you so much, my friends. All right. So now you know how you set yourself up and dreams. And if it's a waking dream, basically what I do is I let life happen. And then when something strikes me, then I sit, give myself a moment and write it down and allow the message to come to that way.

I hope that you enjoyed learning about the different types of dreams, some of the meanings of dreams, how you can analyze dreams, just one of so many different ways.

And that you have so much information coming at you in sleep state as well as waking state through symbols. So

Super, super exciting. Listen, I have one more thing to quote you, and I'm lying. First, I want to tell you that I have some really cool stuff coming up that I have a free segment that comes up every month. I will put that in the in the notes. And the segment is a one hour mastermind discussion about your intuitive brilliance, how you can bring it out how you can work with it. And it's a free, it's a free online class. The other thing I wanted to talk to you about is that I have these events coming up. And again, they are one day two day and a four day event throughout the year and they will also be in the show notes. And the last thing I want to tell you is a quote from an amazing local artist, who's been gone for a while but still affects a lot of people today. Tupac Shakur, who said, reality is wrong. Dreams are for real. All right party people. Thank you so much for listening to mine power meets mystic. Please like us, follow us. Give us some feedback. We would love to hear from you. And I hope you have an amazing day. Bye.

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