Navigating Life After Prison: Jarvis Green's Inspirational Journey

Join us in an insightful episode featuring Jarvis Green, who shares his transformative journey of reintegration after 18 years in prison. Explore Jarvis's emotional release, initial adjustments, and the challenges of avoiding old habits and rebuilding a new life. Gain valuable insights on the role of faith, supportive relationships, and the importance of community in overcoming adversity. Additional topics include the pitfalls of social media, finding employment, and strategies for staying focused and positive. Discover practical advice for individuals reentering society and learn how Jarvis overcame setbacks and embraced a spirit-led, positive future.

00:00 Introduction and Special Guest Announcement

01:32 Jarvis Green's Background and Life Story

02:28 Experiences and Emotions of Release

05:06 Adjusting to Life Outside

07:07 Challenges and Strategies for Staying on Track

12:15 Job Search and Mentorship

15:35 Reflecting on Positive Experiences

16:37 Navigating Life with Restrictions

17:50 Writing a Book: Spirit Lead Man

18:42 Spiritual Insights and Practices

24:43 Challenges and Overcoming Obstacles

30:49 The Influence of Media and Society

32:00 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

Today.

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We have a special guest.

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Yes.

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We always have a special guest,

but I'm pretty sure you're going

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to love to hear from this guest.

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His name is Jarvis Green and he's

just come home and he is out of

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Illinois and he is my cousin.

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So hi cuz.

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Hey cuz good to see you.

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Yeah, it is so good.

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He is He is freshly out how long

have you been out gyrus Oh, it'll

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be a month on Thursday, a month on

Thursday, and that went by fast, right?

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I know it was like, wow, he, he

contacted me and he's been out.

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I'm like, Oh, this is so awesome.

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I got to get you on the show to, uh,

introduce you to everyone because I want

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everyone to, , get the experience of

what it means to freshly come out and

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this is what we're going

to be talking about today.

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The challenges when someone.

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Comes out of prison, , what are

they thinking about mentally?

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What are they thinking about emotionally?

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So Jarvis is, has been so kind to come

on to explain and just to be transparent

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about what, what it is to me to come home.

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So Jarvis, uh, why don't you tell

us a little bit more about yourself

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so the audience gets to know you.

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Um, I'm 41 years old from Chicago.

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I grew up on the west side.

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Um, I've been through a lot, you know,

I've seen a lot of stuff in the streets,

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you know, um, growing up in Chicago and,

you know, I started my life of crime,

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you could say pretty much early in life

and, um, it's like a snowball effect, you

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know, just kept kept continuing to go.

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But, you know, I'm involved in Um, yeah.

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And I'm older, more mature, and

I'm just trying to, , make sure I

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stay on the right path this time.

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Oh, wow.

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I'm so proud of you for this.

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So how long were you in this last time?

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This last time, I just did five years.

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Okay.

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And how much time, how much

time have you done all together?

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I'll say all together, I've

probably done 18 years in jail.

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Okay.

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So tell us what, you know,

a month ago, what happened?

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Like, why'd you, let's just start when

you was walking out the prison, you know,

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you're getting out those doors and stuff.

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What was that feeling?

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It was surreal.

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It's like, it's almost like a dream,

like a movie, you know, I'm going

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to wake up and still be in there.

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Oh, wow.

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Okay.

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That's how it felt for me.

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Did you sleep that night

before or what happened?

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What did you stay up all night or?

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No, I actually went to sleep probably

about 11 o'clock, but I woke up, um,

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about three, three in the morning and

couldn't go back to sleep after that.

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Okay.

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So you had all your stuff packed up and

you sitting there and waiting like, uh,

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I hope they not changing their mind.

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I don't want to hear nothing.

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Yeah.

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That's what's going through your mind.

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Is this a mistake or what?

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Oh, wow.

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Okay.

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So how do you.

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Yeah, how so tell us just walk us through

it a little bit to give us like, you

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know, Uh, how was it who picked you up?

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How did you get home?

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Uh, when you first saw the

outside, what did you see first?

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Did you go to mcdonald's or something?

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I don't know.

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Did you go through the drive

thru and eat something?

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What was it?

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Uh when I got out, um, I

seen my brother in law.

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He came in He helped me carry my

box out and um, you know First thing

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I noticed was the cars the parking

lot seeing my sister And, um, when I

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got in the car, though, I can't lie.

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Like on the ride back, I was

just feeling real queasy.

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I don't know if it was motion sickness

from not being in the car so long

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or what, but it was, it was crazy.

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I think I've heard that before.

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Motion sickness.

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Yeah.

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, so how did your brother in law like,

was he acting out like emotional

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too, or what was that about?

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Yeah, he was happy, happy

to see me come home.

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Did you, , eat at a restaurant

or did they cook for you?

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Um, we stopped and the first thing I

actually ate was like some pizza from

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a gas station, believe it or not.

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Gas station people like you always

eat the weirdest stuff when you

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come out, you never eat what you.

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I think you go to eat first.

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Oh, so you'd be planning that?

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What you gonna eat first

before you get out?

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Yeah, a lot of people do.

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They talk about what they're gonna eat

their first day out and all this stuff.

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I don't never go like that.

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Oh, okay.

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That's awesome.

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So, , what was that adjustment like?

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Um, I know that motion sickness,

did you get any other kind of

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queasy feeling like, what is this?

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, what were some of the things that was

new to you that , you weren't expecting?

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I want to say just, um, you know, the,

the feelings and all, uh, you know, the

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thoughts and everything that was running

through my head, like I say, it was,

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I hadn't been going that long before.

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So everything felt like surreal to me.

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It felt like, you know, like

I was in a dream state almost.

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And, um, yeah, it was just.

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There's so much going on in those

excitements, like some of everything,

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excitement, fear, fear, run through you.

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Um, you know, you hope all the dreams

you've been having, you know, all

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these things start colliding at

once and you know, it's real now and

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you know, anxiety, stress, whatever

it is, it's just like a whirlwind.

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Of different, you know,

emotions, good and bad.

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Many of us, we can only

just kind of imagine it.

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And if we've been around anybody

that's come out of prison, it can

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be different and , it's good

to see it through fresh eyes.

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It's like, oh, yeah, that is

kind of different, isn't it?

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Because we've gotten so accustomed to it.

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And now to hear someone

talk about what is that?

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It's , oh, that's this.

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And, yeah.

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So motion sickness.

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I've heard, , Where things like, , not

so much what people wearing, because I

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know you all can watch TV and stuff and

you keep, , abreast of the fashions

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and stuff, but, I know the cars change.

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And I know now is so with the, I don't

know if they had push buttons before, but

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it's a lot of more automated stuff going

on now, like AI, , That's interesting.

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Even for us still, , that's

getting used to it.

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So we can understand that.

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So what are, what are some of the

fears that , you, , experienced

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just knowing, you know, you, you're

getting out and you got all this

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freedom, you know, and it's all this

temptation is so much you can do.

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Um, and then the fact that, you know,

when you're trying to, you know,

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spiritually, mostly mentally and

physically, you know, and, um, and you

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don't want to like drinking drug no more.

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And, um, you're trying to build new

friends and because all the old friends

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are like, that's the stuff they into, you

know, they into the drugs and the drinking

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and the women, you know, when the.

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The file, you know, all the things

that you you've been thinking about

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getting away from all that time and,

um, you know, it's scary because you

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got to try to, you know, change the

people's faces and things in your

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life and get out your comfort zone.

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So I think for me, that was.

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That's the fear that, you know, that keeps

me on my toes right now, knowing that I

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got to make those, those type of change.

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I like how you put that, um, that fear

is good cause it keeps you, , alert,

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like you said, uh, on your toes

and understanding that it could,

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he could very well go that way.

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And what, what are some of the things

that you do to stay away from the friends?

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I just, um, Well, the first thing

I did was, you know, stop getting

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out and hopping straight on social

media and friending everybody I knew.

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So now I kind of just, I'm real

selective about who I have in my circle.

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So, you know, there, there are a few

that, you know, we have a deep tight

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bond and, you know, they may smoke,

drink a little, but you know, they,

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um, they not in the streets no more.

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They work and they marry.

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Um, stuff like that.

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So I, I try to lean more towards people

that's going to support me in this

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change and not going to pressure me

to, you know, do anything like that.

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People I know that got my back,

you know, even when I'm down

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and you know, the difference.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's not hard to tell the

difference between those.

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That's awesome.

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I didn't, I forgot about that.

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How a lot of, um, like, um, jump

on social media and like, cause

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they still like, you probably

still had your account too, right?

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Like from social media.

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Yep.

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Okay, because I've seen accounts and

people like aren't they locked up

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and it'll come through your feet.

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So Okay, so I was wondering how so

many people how your friends so many

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of them would know quickly if unless

they're family Sometimes it's family.

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You can't be there.

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So it's not just Family friends word of

mouth, you know The whole combination.

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Wow.

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And , I understand why they

would miss you and stuff and want

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to say hi and all that stuff.

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And then, I don't know how

they would feel if, , you don't

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want to hang around anymore.

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, how would you handle that if

like, Hey, I want to hang out

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and you say, well, you know.

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I'm not sure.

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I don't think I can, because, you know,

you could just be in their car and stuff,

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and they have some something in there.

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And if they get stopped, that's

so easily to get caught up in.

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You can't even ride around with everybody.

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It's like everybody got concealed cameras

for guns now and all types of stuff.

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Yeah.

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Um, yeah, I had some crazy

happened to me already.

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And I was like, Lord, you know, like I

said, this one friend, he's not really.

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You know, he lives in Indiana.

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So that type of stuff is, you know,

he's illegal to sit the camera.

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I'm the felon, but I told him like,

Hey, I can't, I can't be around it.

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You know, yeah, that's interesting.

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I think about that when you're, when

you're legally caring, but now that's

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something to think about for people

who do have those licenses and being

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around friends and, you know, that may

come out and understanding that you

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cannot carry when you're around them.

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Okay.

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So that is hard to do.

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And you've already had

to have those talks.

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How so how did he receive that?

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he kept kept saying, um, he kept

putting it on himself saying, you

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know, I'm legit, I'm straight.

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I can tell I know that but

um, I can't be around it.

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So like, you could have told me before.

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I got to call you anything was going

on like, so that was that was kind

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of first test for me right there.

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See how it's going to react.

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So hopefully you got that resolved.

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So yeah, so if you're inside or right

now, you got to think about these

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sort of things in the conversations.

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How would you handle the conversation?

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Because you don't want to

alienate people, but you still

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have to make conscious decisions.

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So, , how has it been , for the job?

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I know you've been looking for a

job ? I'm still ain't working yet.

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Can't lie to you, but I mean,

I've been, I've been looking hard.

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I've been to the temp companies, you know,

filling out with them, talking to them.

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Um, I've been asking friends.

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I've been trying to get in

contact with employment agencies.

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So I've been I've been asking and

I've been looking but you know It's

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just one of those times where it

seemed like it's not gonna come as

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fast as I want it But I mean, I'm just

gonna stay patient and stay focused.

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I know something got it

to come eventually Mm hmm.

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Exactly patient and focus that is a great

thing to have and I was just thinking

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about cuz I actually Mentor with a program

here called partners and hope if you've

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been a part of my audience before you

know a lot about partners and hope and

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what they do is they do a large mentoring

program, as well as, you know, work with

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the community and making sure, people

that's coming out, get jobs and get paid.

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Connected to mentors and

get resources they need.

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I know that it can be

done over state lines.

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So I would definitely check in and out for

you because they have a lot of resources.

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So I will get back to you on that.

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So people understand if you need a

mentor, which everybody needs 1, I

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think, because everybody needs help.

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And everybody needs to be connected.

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So I'll get back to you with

that because cool, cool.

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Yeah.

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So, yeah, the, these men will definitely

help you get adjusted and get you.

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Um, into some type of employment

and I love that you've went through

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temp agencies too because Some

people don't even think about they

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forget about the temp agencies.

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That's good.

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All right So what else

been going on for you there?

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Oh, nothing much.

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It's that i'm going to church with a

friend, you know trying to Establish

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that those habits right there.

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Um, you know, just I stand prayed up.

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Yeah, that positive.

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That's awesome.

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Let's do are really on top of it.

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Okay.

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You talked about not being

involved with, you know, just

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being careful about social media.

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You've started making contact with

some sort of types of employment,

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trying to get that together.

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And you.

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Trying to plug yourself into, I

believe, a support organization.

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A church is one of the best there.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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So, okay.

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Did you stand up when they

say, are any visitors here?

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Uh, they, they actually ain't have

that, you know, um, it ain't like

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one of the, you know, the Baptist

churches and all that, but I think

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they did say something like that, but

this, uh, this church is kind of big.

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Oh, it's big.

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So it's probably you

can probably blend in.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Yeah, I got it.

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So how was that to be in a formal

setting like that with all those people?

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Man, it felt it felt good.

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Like they was worshiping and singing

and I felt like it was a bunch of

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angels around me saying, man, it was

It was good to be in that atmosphere.

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You know what, with that positivity

and that love and that joy felt good.

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That's good.

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I like how you, you're feeding on

that, that positive energy because

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definitely needed as you work through

the obstacles of finding a job.

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And I love that you said just

being patient, cause it will come

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because it doesn't come as fast as

you, you want, but it will come.

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So , don't give up on that.

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So where else have you been?

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Have you been to any shopping centers

or any kind of other family functions?

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What do or do you still need to be

at home for a while and then make

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adjustments before you go out?

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. Well, I left the joint on GPS.

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That's the ankle monitor.

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So my time is limited.

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I'm out like nine and nine right now.

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But um, we've had a

couple of family events.

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When I first came home, um, my sister

invited everybody to a hall and we

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had drinks, food, playing cards.

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Well, I didn't have drinks, but

you know, they had some, um,

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um, no playing cards and just

chopped it up and stuff like that.

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Um, but.

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I haven't really been, you know,

doing, not doing too much, you know,

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but, um, basically in the house, I

moved to a new area, so I don't know

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nobody, know nobody out this way.

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So I pretty much spend a lot

of time by myself, you know,

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if I'm not, um, with my friend.

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Okay.

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That's awesome.

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Again, thank you for being on the show.

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Cause , many men or, , women eat as well.

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When they first come out, they

don't want to talk about anything.

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They don't want to come on the show.

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And I'm just like, wow, you Come on.

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Like you are just kicking.

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Actually, but you just, I know

you're going to make it because

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there's so many things I've been

seeing that you've been doing.

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Like for instance, you are in

the process of writing a book.

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Could you tell us about that?

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Yes, I am.

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I'm writing a book, as you know,

called, um, spirit lab, man.

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Um, I'm working on finishing

out the third chapter.

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It's probably not going to be

too long of a book, but, um,

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I think it's gonna be good.

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Just some of my insights on How I've

helped myself develop spiritually

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and mentally, you know, some of the

things I've learned to read and I'm

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just trying to share that experience

with people and in the best form I

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can, you know, my act of service.

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So that's what I'm doing.

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I'm excited about it too.

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You should be.

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I gotta get it done.

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I gotta get it done.

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That is, that is awesome.

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So, Okay, thinking about your spirit,

man, as someone, I would believe part

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of your audience would be someone that's

been incarcerated before and coming

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out and how to, to regroup and stuff.

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So what would be some of the

main things you would want

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them to get from your book?

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Like what you've getting out of being

spirit land I just want people to

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understand that you know Imitating the

life of Christ, you know Christian values,

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you know the things he went through We

all go through in some some shape or form

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maybe not on the mass level he had to

do it but No, we all struggle with, you

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know, family members not having faith

in you, you know, being persecuted, even

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when you ain't doing that wrong, you

know, when you're trying to do your best.

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I just want people to be able

to get some sound principles and

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understand, , these hardships and be

able to build some positive energies

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to overcome, , the negative forces when

they come, cause they, they do come.

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I've felt them already, but, Like

I said, I'm just trying to stay

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prayed up and, you know, stay in,

stay centered and stay in that zone.

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And, keep praying to God and asking

Jesus to, , help clear that up for me.

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Mm hmm.

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Because I like that because , that's

really pertinent because what you

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said that maybe you have some people

that may not have as much faith in

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you and how do you overcome that?

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I think that's a big one,

for people coming out.

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In reconciling those relationships

you said you've written a few

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chapters and are you liking what

is shaping out to be and how it's,

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Going to help men coming out.

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And I believe it's going to

help men that's already out.

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Is it, it's just for men, right?

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Is it just for men or

is it for women as well?

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I mean, if you, you know, a Christian

and you studied the Bible, I think

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you're going to like, you know, because

I use a lot of scriptural references

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to, um, kind of, Bring out my points

and make, make certain connections.

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Um, so I, I think anybody that, that's

a avid reader of the Bible, you know, a

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student of the Bible, they're going to be

able to make those connections instantly,

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, and it's going to be men and women.

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, I think if you pick it up to read it,

it's going to have some interest for you.

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Hmm.

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That's good.

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All right.

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So I really like it.

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, it's not just my opinion, but.

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It's so many people that label themselves

as Christians, but in theory, but don't

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know how to do it in practice so Breaking

it down and giving them those Practical

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steps and how it looks I think it's gonna

be really effective especially coming

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from a person who's living it and not

just in Bible theory and Um, and it has

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practices as well, because, you know, if

you read scripture, it has, , accounts

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of people, what they had to go through,

but now with you bringing it in in modern

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day things, what they will see, I believe

is going to help them get through it.

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, I look at it as a better translation.

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Yeah, that's a more modern understanding.

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Mm hmm.

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Mm hmm.

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That's good.

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So when do you, I know we're, we're

working together on that and I know we're

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going to have a first manual, a first

draft done by the first of the year.

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So I'm hoping you're done

by within a year and.

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And I would want you back on the show once

it's published and just,, encouraging

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people, , to see what you've done.

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Cause you're coming fresh out.

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We have people that want to

write books and they've been,

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they have never been in prison.

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They have.

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, these obstacles they have, and you

know, everybody have them, but, and

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I want you to, you know, actually

document all that because this

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is awesome what you're doing.

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So the nation is real.

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Okay.

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Did you tell your, your

family that you're writing?

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What are, what are they

thinking about that?

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I told my mom, my friend

about, about the boat.

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I don't know if I ever

told too many people.

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It's just something I really

just keep mainly to myself.

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And just trying to focus like that.

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that's a good thing too, and keeping

focused, that means like, just you

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know, keeping your eye on the prize,

so to speak, getting it done, and

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you say, they'll find out once it's

done, and they can just buy your book,

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and support, and just hear about.

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What to do.

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So, okay.

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One thing I want to ask

is the spirit led book.

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Are you actually putting

current events in as well?

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Like as you walk through

this process of re entering

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society and doing it like that?

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Yeah, I'm using my own, um, you know,

I, I teach and through my experiences,

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you know, with, with emotions.

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So I'm using a lot of I'm using some

of my own experiences, some of the

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times I felt like, you know, Jesus and

God was working through me for the,

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for the betterment of somebody else.

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And I'm using, you know, the examples

of the life of Christ and, you know,

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other, um, people in the Bible, you know,

that stories relate to the particular

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subject I'm discussing at the time.

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So it's a, it's a mixture.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Cause I think it'll be really quite

interesting too to, To relate the

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experience of you first coming out and how

do you be spirit led through this process?

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Yes.

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What's going on?

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Now, , how can we do the same thing, what

you're going through and be spirit led?

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Because it can be scary.

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Yeah, I think, um, the best advice I

can give anybody on that subject is to,

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um, try to be as honest with yourself

about who you are, your strengths and

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your weaknesses, and kind of tailor your

practices towards, you know, because

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we, we, even though we all create

equal, um, We all express to me, um,

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an aspect of God in a different way.

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So for me, you know, I'm, I'm more into

meditative practices and, you know, and,

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um, you know, I try to do like stretches

and yogas and, you know, things like that,

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mantras and prayers, you know, I like

have a combination of things throughout

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my studies that , puts me more in tune,

trying to tap into the spirit In the best

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way that fits you, you know, knowing that,

you know, I, like I said, I come from a

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Christian background, a Bible background.

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So, you know, I'm rooted.

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And it teaches the Christ and being his

disciple, you know, and I just use any

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tool put at my disposal to make that

walk more better and more real, you know,

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and be able to connect as quick as I

can to God, you know, for me, that that

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looks different than most Christians,

even though I won't neglect trying to

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go to church, but, , I may meditate.

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I may, you know, just spend time in quiet

trying to hear his voice in the silence,

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That's a different because you got so many

people that cannot sit still in silence.

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And you can't hear his voice

with all the noise in the chat

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or you got to clear it out.

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You have to, or you ain't going to

hear nothing but your own thoughts

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and them, them nasty thoughts.

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Cause you know, the way people

think in the world now is polluted.

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It's like a, a sewer, you know,

and these are our spiritual things.

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You know, that's what Paul always say.

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You know, we don't fight flesh and blood.

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We fight spiritual things.

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And to me, thoughts are, that's

a whole higher realm, you know,

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that's a, a spiritual realm.

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So you got to try to just be

still and quiet your mind and,

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and just try to listen to that.

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That inner voice that that divine

goddess, you know, yeah, I think that's

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when You're gathering that strength and

you're taking the time to stop everything

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else and, , just sit and listen.

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That is huge.

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And it make it's making

more and more sense.

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Why you're having such big strides

that I see that you're doing.

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You've made so many good points.

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You talked about plugging

into a good church.

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Staying focused, not jumping on social

media, having conversations that talk

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about why you can't do certain things

with people and getting them to understand

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that you can't be around those things

that they think is normal and it's.

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Awesome.

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I, I see so much what you're

going to be doing in this book.

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I believe it's going to be really,

really good because it's all, it's fresh.

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It's really fresh.

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And when you were, I know you

were thinking about this when you

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were locked up and everything.

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just give us a brief story of like

when you started thinking about, cool.

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Okay.

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I know better.

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That's not who I am.

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, I have this connection, but I fell off

. And then , it's a fast pace at that time.

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It's dominoes at that point.

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So when , did you start thinking

about, okay, I need to sit back now?

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I know that's not me.

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What, what, what were you thinking for me?

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It was, okay.

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From the day I got locked up, like,

you know, to me, my life was just

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spiraling out of control again.

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And, um, you know, from the moment I got

locked up, like, I knew, like, something

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was going to be different this time.

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Because, you know, like I say,

I try to learn from my, um,

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from my experience, you know.

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And I had made great strides,

but that was just the beginning.

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Some weaknesses that you just, you know,

you can't see until you trying to do

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better, you know, so I tell a lot of,

a lot of people like when you, when you

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trying to live a new life or do something,

you know, you, you, you fall down.

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It's like trying to learn how to walk.

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So I have been making these strides,

um, for years and kept falling down,

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but I, you know, I get back up and,

um, from the day I got locked up, I

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just started working again and started,

you know, getting my life back.

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And, you know, God gave me some more

tools, some more skills to be able to,

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um, withstand what I had coming next.

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You know, and it all just come

through our trials and tribulations.

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You know, I don't believe in failure.

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So I believe that he's the

things that make us to, you

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know, the good and the bad.

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So I just embrace Everything

about life and everything.

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Okay.

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I like that.

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I can't remember the saying.

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I just saw it says files are just

Opportunities to succeed or something like

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the tools you need to succeed Exactly.

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Yeah, so it's the way you think about

it and I like that you Thought about

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it positively that way because you can

also think about it the other way and

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go the other way And go the wrong way.

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So it's just all in how you look at

Um this and if you look at it as an

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opportunity Then you're you're going

in the right direction and you're

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going to be I believe stronger because

you're going to have You have more

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you're going to have more evidence.

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You're gonna like I like how you say

you the tools He was giving you tools

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You , so now you know what it was and

now you can speak to it and because these

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tools other people can use, especially

when they're, they're in those positions.

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So, um, I know you believe in the enemy,

what are some of the things you think

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about him, about what he's trying to

do, , especially in your own life.

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You know, he works, he works

through the, call him the spirit of

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his age or the spirit of the air.

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You know, he, he's in all the frequencies,

the TVs, the movies, you know, he, you

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know, Hollywood is the heart center of

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America, like the soul center of

all the ideas and you know, the,

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the creative, creative things come

from, and you know, it's so corrupt.

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So, you know, he, likes to work through

subtle things, you know, images and

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Music, you know, in media, you know, and

he works through some of these leaders.

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I mean, you see what's going

on out here in the world.

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People are godless right now, you

know, so it's an indication of the

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time we're living in and who Who

trying to get some power, right?

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Right.

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I think your book is on time.

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And I'm hoping you touching on that

them images and media and those

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other those influences that People

will look to and not understanding

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that they're being influenced.

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Yeah.

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So, okay.

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, that's it.

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What I have for you today.

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I wanted to just, , quickly, , introduce

you to the audience and make sure

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that they remember who you are

because you're coming back with your

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book and tell us more about that.

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So, , is there any thing you want

to say to someone that's coming out

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or someone that's out or, , just

to give them more information on.

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Life and just how this works for you

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anything like that?

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You want to say?

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Yeah, just if you know, if you know

anybody, just get out, just kind

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words, you know, words of encouragement

are always going to be the best.

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And you know, if you coming out.

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I know we hear this, this cliche all

the time, people, places, and things,

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but those are gonna be the three keys

to change, you know, the people you

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hang with, you know, the places you

frequent, and the things you do, you

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know, and if you can, um, find a way

to find your patterns in life, like

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those things you repeat, those places

you go, and those things you do that

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you've been doing over and over, you

can break those habits, then you can,

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you can definitely break the cycle.

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You know, that's the best bet I

can give to anybody and try to

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find you a, you know, a good church

home and read your Bible, anything

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positive you can get your hands on.

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Right.

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And they're going to get to need

to get their hands on your book

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as well once you get that out.

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So I like that you talked about,

I will, I will call them nouns,

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people, places, and things.

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Remember your nouns.

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Okay.

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I like that.

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And that's easy to remember.

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So I thank you for making it simple,

because it is simple, but it's

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not necessarily easy, but you can

find that help to get through it.

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So everyone, I just wanted

to thank you for listening.

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Thank you Jarvis for coming on the show.

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Thanks for having me.

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It was a pleasure.

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So everyone, thank you again

for listening and may you have

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a week filled with blessings.

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Well, that's it.

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And thank you for listening and

have a week filled with blessings.