Scott Hamilton with Phil Pavitt at The Third Half starts with light humour before shifting into a candid conversation about Phil’s career, leadership journey, and the reality of stepping away from full-time executive life. Phil reflects on building his reputation across government, technology, and global organisations — and what it truly feels like to leave behind decades of responsibility and reinvention.

He talks openly about the next chapter: launching a coaching school for CIOs and CISOs, supporting new leaders with the guidance he once needed, and shifting his energy into meaningful charity and community work.

A funny, thoughtful, and genuinely important conversation — from early career stories and tough decisions to purpose, leadership, and building a life beyond the job title.