In this episode, Irene and Cat shed light on:

• A wedding
• A graduation
• Finding Joy in the Journey

About the show:

Join us, Irene Uy and Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, both certified life coaches, as we share our stories and hear from business leaders, generational pioneers and experts as we discuss the personal, relational and professional challenges we, immigrants and children of immigrants face.

Get ready to break personal, cultural or generational barriers that get in the way of being the best version of yourself and living the best version of life!

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: All right.

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The coach is in.

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We are your hosts, Cat and Irene.

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Irene Uy: I'm Irene.

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I moved to the U.

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S.

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on my own 10 years ago.

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I have a background in management

engineering, earned my master's

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degree from Columbia, and secured

my permanent residence through work.

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I spent my career in real estate,

And I'm now a certified coach and

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: accredited with ICF

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and I'm Cat.

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My parents came to the States from

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landed in Milwaukee, where I was born.

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I now live in Chicago with

my two daughters and husband.

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I've always been multi passionate

and multi hyphenate and presently

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I serve others as an attorney,

podcaster, and in the personal

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development space as a retreat host

and as a certified coach as well.

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Irene Uy: Join us as we share our

stories and hear from business leaders,

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generational pioneers, and experts as

we discuss the personal, relational, and

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professional challenges we immigrants

and children of immigrants, face.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: Irene, I'm so

excited to be chatting with you.

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We haven't connected in a while,

so I, I'm guessing that we each

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have lots of ground to cover when

it comes to things to talk about.

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Irene Uy: Yeah, I know, right?

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I don't know how much you're

willing to share, but I'll start.

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Since the last time we saw each other,

there's a lot that's been going on.

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I got married.

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Um, so our families were here.

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My husband's mom actually also

got her kidney transplant.

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Oh my gosh.

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I haven't told you that.

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Um, all good things, right?

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: Oh,

is she, is she doing okay?

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Irene Uy: She's doing great.

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Actually.

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She's getting stronger now.

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She can walk.

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So, yeah, we're, we're very

happy that, um, this actually

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happened in the span of a week.

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Like we had the tea ceremony

and then within that week,

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she got her kidney transplant.

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So she wasn't able to attend the

wedding, but, you know, we're looking

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forward to like what's next to come

because now that she's able to.

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Um, travel, um, we'll

see where that takes us.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: Oh

my gosh, that's great.

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I didn't realize, well, yeah, I

didn't realize that she, uh, was

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not, you know, in 100 percent health.

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And so, like you said, getting

a, like a new lease on something

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from a health perspective, um,

that has to feel, feel good.

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And I'm glad to hear she's

healing and recovering well.

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Irene Uy: Yeah.

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What about you, Cat?

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What have you been up to?

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Ah,

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: Well, so you may

have heard the term May cember bounced

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around when it comes to families with

kids, in school because May feels a

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lot like December where there's like

party, banquet, end of year, like gifts

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galore for, you know, it all kicks

off with teacher appreciation week.

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And then at my girl's school, they

had, uh, like a junior high formal

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at the beginning of the month.

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One of my daughters graduated and

had her confirmation and my other

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daughter's super involved in dance.

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So there's end of year competitions

and recitals and showcases.

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And so it, it feels like, you know,

but like the end of the calendar year

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where you're racing to get in all sorts

of fun, um, sometimes stressful, uh,

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but ultimately, you know, you, you

finish off the month or feeling like.

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Wow.

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That was a lot.

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And I'm kind of proud of myself for

making, making it through without any

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huge arguments or blowouts or breakdowns.

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Irene Uy: It seems like, you know,

sometimes life takes over us, right?

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: Yes.

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Yes.

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I feel like You know, I may have touched

on this in the past, but before you get

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to this stage of parenting, uh, your,

your schedule can kind of feel, uh, like

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the only things that jump in are, uh,

holidays or the seasons, you know, like

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there's proof of change, but like when

my kids were in daycare, they just went

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to daycare every day from, you know, 8

AM till 5 PM and that was year round.

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And, but when they started school

and started their own activities

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and getting into things that, um,

hold them in different directions,

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it, it like the schedule kind

of takes on a life of its own.

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So, um, it's, it can be hard, or I

know it was hard for me to adjust.

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To to thinking like to recalibrating my

expectations for myself during this time.

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Um, because I think I kind of didn't

either didn't anticipate or wasn't

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willing to initially accept that.

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This is just how it has to be.

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There's only so many hours in the day.

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I only have so much energy and.

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In order for me to show up the way I

want to for my family, um, which is

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one of my core values, you know, as

being like an exceptional parent and

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an exceptional partner, I need to let

certain other things take the back burner

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so that I can be there for these people.

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In this way, and, um, yeah, it, it's

taken me years to kind of come around to

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that realization and that place of, um,

acceptance because I think for a long time

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I thought, oh, if I just hustle harder

or if I sleep less, or if I, you know,

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Divvy up the schedule in a certain way and

multitask, then I'll be able to still do

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everything at the same level, even though

these areas are extra demanding in May.

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Um, so yeah, it's been a, it's,

it's played out like that where.

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You know, I, my fitness routine has

taken a break, uh, you know, and, uh, I'm

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not cooking as much or I'm not cleaning

at the same level as I do when, you

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know, these things aren't coming up.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, that's been my day.

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Irene Uy: Yeah.

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And what a process that must have been

for you to get to that point of like

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just self acceptance and realization.

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Right.

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Because, we truly never really

know what's, um, you know,

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what's going to happen next.

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Go in it for us.

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I guess you enter like

different stages in life.

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And which is I think why it's important

also to be talking about these things.

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And thank you for sharing.

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Because I'm pretty sure our listeners,

would appreciate, having, someone

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share their firsthand experience.

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You know, like for someone like me

who just got married, um, and who

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might see myself in your position in

the future, um, it would help to like

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hear someone's experience firsthand.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: Yeah.

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Thank you for saying that.

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Yeah.

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I, it reminds me of when I had a newborn

and, feeling so frustrated and at moments

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alone and having a positive attitude

knowing that this was a blessing, but

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also feeling incredibly inept and like,

no one gives you a manual for this or,

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or, and having at that point in time,

eventually, a number of new moms are

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like, It's going to suck like you're

going to second guess whether or not

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you should have had kids or you're

going to feel like you're a terrible

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mom and all of this is just part of it.

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It doesn't mean that it's true.

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These are your feelings.

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They come and go.

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You're sleep deprived.

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You know, having a kid is a totally

different experience than anything you've

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ever learned and mastered and executed

against in your professional life or your,

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you know, your previous personal life.

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So.

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Yeah.

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To your point about hearing how

other people have, you know,

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navigated and had the same feelings

for sure can be so helpful.

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So yes, I'm happy to,

word vomit as needed.

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Irene Uy: Yeah.

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And, you know, for our audience,

It's like listening into our podcast.

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Um, I think, um, the value that, um,

you might take away from this is the

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intersectionality of the experiences

that Cat and I bring to the table.

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Um, we're both, um, uh, I'm, I'm

an immigrant from the Philippines

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and Cat is a children of immigrant.

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Um, and we're at different life stages.

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So we have different perspectives to

offer, um, for the topics that we, uh,

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that might come up in conversation.

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And I don't know about you, me

personally, I've become more, um,

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Open and candid about like my own

experiences and like my identity.

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Um, because I'm an expert in my

own experience and I, I, you know,

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: Yes.

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Yes.

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Uh, you know, on, on that note, uh,

I feel like we have not had a deep

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dive into the emotional transformation

that weddings can carry with them.

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I, I loved, uh, so obviously the listeners

can't, See this, but Irene had like

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an engagement video and then a post

wedding video that they captured so

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many beautiful moments from those times

and, and, you know, your relationship.

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And, um, I, so it's, it's fun to have that

glimpse into your world and I'm curious

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the emotions behind it and, you know, what

came up for you as you were, you know, in

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the throes of this life changing event.

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Irene Uy: Where do I even begin?

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Um, yeah, because I mean to get to

the point of the wedding, like, you

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know, I could, I could start with like

how the relationship started also.

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But, um, I think the videos, um,

will showcase, um, certain glimpses

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of, of the day itself and, um,

uh, our relationship as a couple.

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Um, what did it, what it did not

show was the chaos behind all

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of it because it was chaotic.

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But all that to say, it was still

the best day of my life ever because

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I got to spend it with the people.

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But that, um, mean so much to us, right?

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It was a very small wedding.

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Um, and these are the people

that I've known over the years.

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Um, the ceremony itself was, um, I don't

know, like I had to prepare myself because

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even though these are the people that

we already, um, are, are, are close to

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us, I was not, there was nothing that

could have prepared me for that moment.

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Like, I did not expect to feel the

way that I did as the doors were

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opening and everyone would see me and

my dad and, you know, see me in my

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dress and my dad walking beside me.

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Um, my husband now, um, almost.

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Teared up during the exchange of vows,

you know, like these are things that

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you normally I did not know that you

would cry like I wasn't expecting this

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vow to turn out the way that it did.

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It almost also made me cry.

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Oh, I love it.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: I love it.

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I love what you said too about,

um, that the videos don't show the

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chaos that was behind the scenes.

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And you also said it was the happiest

day or most beautiful day of your life.

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And so just.

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Just being able to recognize that the

happiest and most beautiful moments

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don't have to be picture perfect and not

chaotic, like that can co exist, like

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the chaos can be the best thing ever.

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I, I, there's just something

resonated when you said that,

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like, ah, that's amazing.

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Like people think it has to be

calm and seamless and perfect

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and actually not necessarily.

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Irene Uy: And I think, you know, like it

would not have been that way without the

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chaos because I think why I'm saying it's

the best day of my life despite the chaos

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is because I think the people who showed

up for us, I felt the love and the care

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of everyone who showed up like, you know,

like, can you imagine the patience that

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everyone had to go through and like, just

the bridal party really like put things

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together and like, I'm so grateful that

to have, um, These people in our lives

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and to to be there for our wedding day.

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And that's what my husband said to

like, we are so lucky and grateful that.

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The, our bridal party are

who they are because Mm-Hmm.

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Um, they really pulled things together,

so, you know, and, and I don't think

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everyone has the same experience.

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Mm-Hmm.

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So it was, it truly was the best they ever

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: Uh, it sounds like they, you were able to see

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their love in action for you.

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Like, you know, they came together.

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And, um, and all of them, like, what do

they say, like weddings and funerals,

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those are the times when, when people

are together, um, and how, what a gift

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to be able to see all those people that

you love in one place, uh, not just,

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you know, being there, but also kind

of acting in concert to help make this

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an amazing, uh, experience for you.

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Irene Uy: Yeah, and I mean, I mean,

so, so the wedding day itself, I

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started thinking like, oh, sometimes

I have a hard time receiving help and

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receiving love from people that it

was almost overwhelming to see how,

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how much love the bridal party gave.

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It's like, oh my God, like it, is it, is

it that I'm unwilling to recognize that

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these people love me and will be there

for me because then not, not to sound

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morbid, as you mentioned, like, Funerals.

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Also, I started thinking like, oh,

these are the people who I probably

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would, um, show up to their funerals.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: I don't know if

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Irene Uy: that grammar made

sense there, but we're beyond.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: Wow.

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Uh, I, this is a side note.

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Um, In, in early April or, you know, uh,

but you may re I, I remember mentioning

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to you that, um, there were some deaths

in, in my family, like my uncle passed

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and, um, a close family friend, uh,

passed away and, but you're mentioning

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about funerals and the people you love.

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And, um, just reminded me of how,

uh, I, I am not someone, I feel

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almost still new to funerals.

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This sound, they sound weird

cause I'm almost, you know, I'm

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in my late forties, but my dad

never liked talking about death.

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And, um, when we were growing up, he

actually wouldn't take us to many funerals

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of like family members, et cetera.

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Um, I think partly out of

superstition, he's of Chinese descent.

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But um, and even now, we, as we plan

for the eventualities of death and you

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know him passing on, it's, it's, He, we

don't have conversations easily, uh, he's

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very reluctant, but, um, all this to say

that because of my lack of experience, I

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always thought until relatively recently

that funerals, you had to kind of earn

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the right to attend a funeral, that you

had to be close to the person who died.

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And so there were times when I

avoided funerals or just sent flowers

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or whatever, cause that was the.

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The refrain in my head was, I would

feel like a poser going to this

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funeral because I actually didn't

know the person who died that well.

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But in recent months, it's kind of shifted

to, um, funerals being for the living.

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Sorry, I'm getting all teared up.

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Um, but it's, you're there to support the

people you love that are still with us.

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And yes, it's like the reason that

you're coming together is because of the

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people who've passed and to honor them.

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But it's, it's, it's

It's not just about that.

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It's also about paying your respects

and showing your support and showing,

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like taking action to support that

person's loved ones who you love as well.

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And there

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Irene Uy: goes the

complexity of life, right?

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Because like, um, when we think

about that, it's obviously

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very, very, we're grieving.

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It's like a huge emotion to, um, unpack.

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But at the same time, we're also

celebrating someone's life and the

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good parts of it and the memories

that, you know, we shared together.

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And like, it's a lot to, um, it's a lot

of like intense emotions all at once.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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A lot, a lot, a lot.

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Yeah.

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And I, you know, I can just imagine at

that when, at when you were walking down

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the aisle and seeing all those people

looking at you with such love in their

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faces and joy that, yeah, there, there can

be this crazy mashup of emotions thinking

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to yourself at the same time, like,

yeah, these are people that if I lose

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them, I will be absolutely heartbroken.

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Um, and there's, there's such beauty

in that, um, dynamic in the knowing

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of like, what, what preciousness that

you have in your hands and kind of the

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reminder to cherish it for what it is.

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Um, because you know, if you lose it,

how hard, how hurt you would be like

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there's, like you said, it's that

the layers and the intertwinedness

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of, of, of love and loss.

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Irene Uy: Yeah, and how lucky we

are to actually meet, um, these

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people because like, you know, um,

when it comes to friends, these

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are your chosen family, right?

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You can choose to not be part of this

relationship if you didn't want to, but

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something about this person and this

relationship draws you to them to, to make

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you want to show up despite the distance,

despite, you know, different life stages.

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Um, so it's a conscious choice to

want to be in this relationship

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and to nurture the relationship.

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And, and so like, you know, at this

age that we're in, it's like when

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we invest in relationships, it's

kind of already long term, right?

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Because we know who we are

and we know what to do.

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who we want to invest our time in.

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Um, and so, and so that's why I

thought like, oh, these are the

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people that I would be lifelong, I

choose to be lifelong friends with.

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Because I think one of the conversations,

um, that so, so we had, um, we spent

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the night with the bridal party and,

um, we had really deep conversations

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because, um, I think they were saying

like, oh, you know, when you, Get

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married, like you never have to go

through life alone anymore, right?

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To deal with life's adversities.

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And I said, I'd like to think

that friends are part of that too.

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That no one gets left behind, right?

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Because that's the

community that you build.

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And, um, what better way to live

life than to do it with, um, The

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people that you love the most, right?

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And so, you know, when I think about

funerals, um, it's very complex and

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there's obviously the grief part of it,

but also like recognizing that how lucky

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am I to have met these people and to have

shared and created memories with them.

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Um, And so that's where my head's at.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: Oh, I can just see

the gratitude and the, yeah, like how

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grateful you are for, um, for those people

and the moments you shared together.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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For the listeners.

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Irene is just beaming.

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She's got this permagrid.

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If we're ever on YouTube someday,

you'll be able to see, but for

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now, just take my word for it.

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Yeah.

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Bye bye!

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Oh, well, I'm so thrilled that you

have that memory in your archive now.

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And, um, yeah, what a beautiful

launching pad into your marriage.

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Gosh.

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Yeah.

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Irene Uy: So, so yesterday I was,

um, I was invited as a guest

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speaker to my CrossFit bar talk.

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And one of the things that we talked about

with self care and, um, I was asked like,

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how exactly do you take care of yourself?

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Right.

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Cause they.

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It comes down to your belief in

yourself first and whether you are

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deserving because like, you know,

like, like you mentioned earlier, like

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you can be drawn to different places.

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Um, your identity as a mom, as a

partner, as a daughter, it could, um,

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pull you in, in different directions.

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And you sometimes, um, put yourself last.

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How do you, um, prioritize

yourself and your self care?

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And I think we, the

bottom line of that was.

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Um, find a support system that will

keep reminding you, you are worthy and

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you are worthy of prioritizing yourself

because it could be hard for us to

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reframe that thought in our head alone.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: Mm.

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Mm.

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That's good.

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That is very good.

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I could not agree with that more.

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And I think accountability or I don't

even know if every, if, if that, that

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system support system always is labeled

accountability, but it's, there's.

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There's an element of that, like

to remind you of who you are and

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what you deserve and what you want

to prioritize and what you value.

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Like that even, even, I think oftentimes

we think of accountability as like a

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taskmaster or, you know, a drill sergeant.

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But I think, um, those support systems

can offer you a sense of almost

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gentle accountability in that just by

virtue of, yeah, reminding you that.

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This is, this is who you are

and what you want to prioritize.

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And we're going to help you get

there, whether it's slow, whether

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it's fast, whether there's no action

for a while, or whether you want to

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take intense action for a really,

you know, short period of time.

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Like there's, there are people who

get you and support you through it.

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Irene Uy: There's no right

or wrong answer to it, right?

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Because I think as I'm not sure if this

is specific to millennials, but it seems

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like every millennial I speak to seems

to have this drive of like, Oh, I'm

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just going to be robotic and I will push

myself to the max without realizing that

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you cannot sustain that way of living.

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And I think now we're realizing that.

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And it's so funny and ironic how, um,

self care and like, Doing nothing.

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It's like we have to

carve time to do nothing.

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. Right,

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: right.

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Yeah.

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And I wouldn't, I, I know

you speak for millennials.

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I would not, I would say because

I'm technically Gen X and I,

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I think we are saddled with

similar, um, thought patterns.

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Like you work, you work, you work.

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Uh, to get some sort of life

or, or, but it, yeah, it's all,

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it's very, it's really complex.

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And I, and I remember someone

advising me, which I thought

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was good advice at the time.

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And I, but I did not

consistently implement it.

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And maybe there's a reason why that

I should unpack for a future podcast

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episode, but, um, but they were saying,

you know, schedule 15 minutes of Like

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do nothing time because it doesn't

come naturally to you that you need

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to actually, like if you are someone

that's hardwired to do do and adhere

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to a schedule, like you should block

in time to, for nothingness for, for

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whatever ness and put down the phone and

get away from the screen and don't feel

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necessarily obliged to walk, but just

let yourself kind of be like, whatever.

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Whatever, um, stillness you can obtain

to schedule it, um, which, uh, yeah,

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there's a lot of wisdom to that, but

just underscoring your point that self

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care is hard for people to prioritize.

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I think in our culture generally, like I

think, um, self care and stillness just

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isn't something we do well as Westerners.

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Yeah,

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Irene Uy: which I think it's this this

line of thought brings me back to what

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my therapist shared with me between

the difference of the difference

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between goal based living and value

based living because I mean, this

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might be a new way of thinking that

that our parents never taught us.

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And like, we're just now being

introduced to where in goal based

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living is like, oh, you know, we're just

working towards one goal after another.

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You're another because I remember I

remember that I was this way like,

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um, when I was in the Philippines, I

got accepted into schools, and I told

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my mentors about it, and the next

thing that I was talking about is.

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What's next?

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What's next?

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And my mentor said, um, don't

forget to celebrate the milestone

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that, or the achievement that

you, you, you just received.

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Like you got into an Ivy league school.

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Um, and I didn't think much of it,

but now it's like, yeah, when does,

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when, when do the goals ever end?

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Cause otherwise I'll just be living my

life, um, pursuing one goal after another.

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Whereas the value based living,

um, you're not so much focused on

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what the goal is, but you're just

living out your values kind of like.

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Developing habits and, and seeing

where that takes you, right?

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Um, and I think what I, what I want to

point out here is that, living in the way

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that you're just chasing chasing goals.

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Are you actually happy right there

because there's an undercurrent state

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of being sometimes we push ourselves

too much to the point where, oh,

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we don't realize we're unhappy and

We don't really want this anymore.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: Yeah, that's

such an important distinction,

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the goals versus values.

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Um, it reminds me of a phrase

that, like the six words that,

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uh, can change your life, but,

uh, you have to love the process.

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You have to love the journey.

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If you don't, then, As you were

saying, you get caught up, you can

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get caught up in aiming so hard for

a destination and not really thinking

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about, is this what I really want?

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Or once you get there, realizing

that if you're loving the

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journey, then it's all about.

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Like that is the, that is the value in it.

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That's the goal.

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That's like, it, it becomes less

about the destination and more about

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the process of living and, and living

in a way that makes sense to you.

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Um,

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Irene Uy: yeah, because life is meant

to be experienced and, and not to be

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woo woo about this or not, this is

also not to say that just because.

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You are living happy and, um, and

accepting yourself for who you are.

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That doesn't mean you're not

actually go, uh, growing and

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pursuing your goals either, right?

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There's a difference between just focusing

on like the goals without, um, regard

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for your well being and there's your

sense of self worth and self acceptance.

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Um, I think, uh, I, and I think this is

what, um, The different, uh, what has

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become different for me since becoming a

life coach in that like I worked on self

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acceptance and being happy because then

I could propel myself into working on

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my goals and achieving them from a place

of worthiness and acceptance, right?

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As opposed to like, I don't feel good

enough so I'm just gonna keep on chasing

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after that goal until I feel good enough.

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That's a lie because I never will.

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There will always be another goal

that I will work towards, right?

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: Yeah.

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Yes.

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So true.

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There's always something next, like

something, something else that,

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uh, that comes after the goal you

accomplish that, you know, once

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you get that to once you accomplish

one, suddenly there's another one.

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So you're always feeling less than

you're always feeling incomplete.

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Um, and I, I love the, when you

live by your values, I love that it

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really, you can have this sense of.

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Accomplishment no matter and fullness

and enoughness, regardless of,

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you know, can you check this box?

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Do you have this degree?

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Is there this number on your scale?

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Or is there this number

on in your bank account?

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It's instead about the Kind of

that's those states of being and

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do those align with who you what

you value and what you love.

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Yeah.

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I love that I think that's what got me

to a peaceful place with parenting too is

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You know recognizing that Of course, it's

not, it's not all unicorns and rainbows.

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Like, there's definitely

arguments and annoyances and sucky

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moments and, um, backsliding.

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Like, I thought I had taught

you already that you, you know,

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you're not supposed to do X.

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Um, But, you know, it's all part of this

journey, and instead of being focused

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on, like, I have a kid that is this,

it's like, I have a kid, you know, that

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values this, that learns from mistakes,

that is constantly growing, um, and

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that feels good, like it feels good

to know that within the process, It's

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there are ups and downs and there's,

because it's, because the process

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is what you enjoy and what you love.

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And then that's, what's

aligned with your values.

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The journey is the point of it all.

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Um, if it makes it a lot easier to,

to reach that place of acceptance,

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like this is all part of it.

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Like it doesn't matter if, uh, my kid

didn't do their laundry when they said

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they were supposed to, or didn't fold

it and put it away, like I told them to,

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or, you know, didn't get the A's that.

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I know she wanted, like,

whatever it might be.

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Um, it's about, it's like, did you learn?

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Are you enjoying, um, kind of

discovering new information?

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Are you growing, like, big picture view?

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You know, are you more consistently

able to, like, do the things

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that you say you want to do?

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Like, it's, it's, um, It's a, it's a

perspective shift for sure, but totally

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liberating when you tack it not to

the goal, but to the, the values and

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kind of the, the journey of getting

that to be the person you want to be.

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Irene Uy: I love that.

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It's very interesting again, right?

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Our different life stages and our

perspectives because you are talking

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about it from the perspective of the

parent and I'm talking about this

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from the perspective of the daughter.

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What I wanted to add to that

was that I wish my parents.

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Um, work less as parents and trust that

the values that they wanted to impart

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in me are values that I have received

just by, um, watching them live, right?

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Because they, because they model it.

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You don't have to , say it over and

over again because I, I will naturally

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learn the values that matter to you

the most just by living with you.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: Yeah, for sure.

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I, I feel like this could be a totally,

we should pick this up in our next

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discussion, but like the, the, the

idea of communication and modeling

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and, and how both of them coexist.

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And how we picked up different things

growing up and how we are choosing

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to maybe operate differently, or

maybe in some cases, the same as what

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we witnessed, um, as when we were

kids, there's, there's a lot there

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certain I'm, I'm sure every immigrant.

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Child or a child of immigrants can relate.

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Irene Uy: Absolutely.

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And I think we've covered

a lot of ground today.

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Um, so I'm curious now from the audience,

let us know what kind of topics you're

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interested in, because there's a lot that

Cat and I can unpack and, you know, talk

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about, we'd be interested in your inputs.

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So leave us comments in

the comment section below.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: Sounds good.

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Yes.

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And Irene, I think you should

also paste a link in the show

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notes to your wedding video.

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Selfishly.

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I'm like, I

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Irene Uy: will do that.

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I will certainly do that after the call.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu: Thanks

everyone and we will be back soon.

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As you wrap up today's session,

we invite you to reflect on what

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resonated with you in today's episode.

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If you're interested in exploring

the topic as it relates to your

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own personal experience, head

to the show notes and visit

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www.thecoachisinpodcast.com

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www.thecoachisinpodcast.com.

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Irene Uy: Get ready to break personal,

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