It is time for LAST TIME ON! The podcast for everyone who wants to watch all those great television shows out there, but who has the time for that? Turns out we do, as we talk about Attack on Titan!

This week on LTO: The boys talk Subs vs Dubs, Xhafer only gives the smallest spoilers, Ben digs Patrick Ewing and Victor learns about the connection between TMNT and Daredevil.

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well now that was depressing:

Hello, and welcome to Last Time On.

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It's the podcast for people who wanna

watch all this prestige television,

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but, uh, who's got time for it?

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Benjamin: Seems

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well now that was depressing: B-

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Benjamin: I do

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well now that was depressing:

Ben, it's an audio format.

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Benjamin: I

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know,

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Victor: and, Ben and I

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were were playing visible chicken with

her, like who's gonna break first?

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Benjamin: enjoying, like, saved 40

minutes a week with this half-length show.

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well now that was depressing: Yeah

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Benjamin: take some

more here in the intro.

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well now that was depressing:

You can luxuriate in the

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intro a little bit longer.

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Yeah

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Benjamin: Exactly

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Victor: Uh, hey everyone, I'm Victor

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well now that was depressing: I'm Jafer

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Benjamin: And I am Ben, and you are

listening to the only podcast on the

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internet where a dude is inside of a dude.

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Those are all video podcasts.

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audio only

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well now that was depressing:

You're doing my bit right now, Ben.

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Uh, This is a thing that I do all the

time when we're out to eat, where when

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someone's like, uh, whenever someone

at the table says, uh, "Everyone

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else go first, I'm still figuring

it out," I'll look at them and go,

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"Do you want me to order slowly?"

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And if they say yes, I do the exact thing

Ben is doing, where I just drag it out

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Victor: Okay.

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You, you're the type of g-

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Benjamin: I drag it out

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well now that was depressing:

It's not for the waitstaff.

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I'm not trying to do a bit

to make their day better.

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I'm trying to buy time for someone to

figure out what they want, and it almost

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always ends with them being exasperated

because they knew what they wanted, they

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just didn't wanna commit to a decision

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Victor: Oh,

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Benjamin: We

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Victor: man

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Benjamin: of friends

with commitment problems

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well now that was depressing: Yes

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Victor: that, yeah.

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That, that drives me.

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You are the type of people who drive

me crazy, uh, going out to eat.

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'Cause I, I don't know, when I, when

I go get, uh, when I go get food,

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man, I, I know what I want, and I like

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well now that was depressing: Oh

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Victor: it's like a mission

for me to, to deliver

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well now that was depressing:

I know what I want.

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I'm ready to order.

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Victor: Yeah

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well now that was depressing:

it's not for me.

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I'm not buying time for me

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Victor: mind.

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I misheard.

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It's your friends who drive me crazy.

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They're

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well now that was depressing: Yes.

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Victor: what

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well now that was depressing: 100%.

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Victor: like I, I, I, I make it a

mission to deliver my order as clear and

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concise with as few words as possible,

because I know that these guys don't get

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paid enough to put up with this shit.

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So, you know?

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Anyway, uh, speaking of not getting

paid enough to put up with this shit,

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uh, how much do you think the scout

guard in Attack on Titan get paid?

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well now that was depressing:

Not enough to deal with this shit

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Benjamin: But that libertarian

guy and all of his tax

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Victor: Yeah.

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Well, today we are returning

to Attack on Titan.

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We are, uh, watching

season one, episode 12.

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D- uh, I didn't write down

the ridiculously long name

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well now that was depressing: The

Struggle for Trust, Trust Part Eight.

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So I have looked ahead on the episode

titles, uh, and we do lose the, like,

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the saga name or whatever we wanna call

it, the, uh, like, the bit of the arc.

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That goes away here after Season 1.

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So

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Benjamin: I do, I do think this might

be the first episode of any show

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we've watched unlike, "24" where

hypothetically you're watching a show

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in real, like, a, a show in real time,

I feel like the events of this episode

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place less time than the episode.

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Like,

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well now that was depressing:

100% agree with that

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Benjamin: 22-minute episode and this is

about three minutes of stuff happening.

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Victor: Huh.

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well now that was depressing:

There's a bit of overlap, yeah

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Victor: I do remember when I was a kid,

I had this buddy in high school who would

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come over after school and, uh, and he, he

wanted to watch Dragon Ball Z, and that…

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I think that's what turned me

off from anime to begin with

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for the longest time, because

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well now that was depressing:

Piccolo putts for birdie

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Victor: the fucking…

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Like, we watched 'Cause you'd have to wait

a week new episode to come out, right?

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we waited a whole week, and this whole

episode, I think I talked about this

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before, and you, you guys explained

to me that they needed to filler.

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It, it was just one entire

30-minute episode was just,

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uh, uh, Frieza and Vege- Goku,

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well now that was depressing: Yeah,

this is the fight that's the worst too

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Victor: guy and, and Goku just

staring each other down and

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charging up for a whole fucking

episode, like nothing happened.

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And I'm, and I was like, "That's it.

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I'm out.

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I'm not gonna wait another

week for this bullshit."

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So,

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well now that was depressing: Spoiler,

it wasn't gonna resolve next week either

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Victor: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that

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Benjamin: That is why in the new

version where they edited it down,

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whole fight is about 20% of how many

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episodes it was.

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They

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well now that was depressing:

Yeah, I'm sure.

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Victor: Mm-hmm.

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well now that was depressing:

There's a lot to cut out

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Victor: Also, it's funny the, uh, I love

it's, it's just so, uh, on brand, uh,

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stereotypical for the, that I get…

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I'm watching this on Amazon

Prime, and I get a, a s- a seizure

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warning at the beginning about

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well now that was depressing: Yeah

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Victor: and shit.

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It's like, that is such

an anime thing to do.

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well now that was depressing: So I

will say the first season of this

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show was, uh, a little bit more prone

to the f- uh there's, uh, there's…

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I don't think there's a single

filler arc in this anime.

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I think everything is

straight out of the manga.

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Um, but they did luxuriate in it a bit.

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Um, but they decided to take a different

approach, uh, in between seasons.

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Instead of doing all of the filler and

making everything last for forever,

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after this first season, they're just

all like, "We're only gonna make the

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anime when there's anime to make, and

we'll just catch up and then call it good

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Victor: Oh, wow.

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Man, I wish the Game of

Thrones guys would've

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Benjamin: coming out and then

there wasn't any for a long time

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well now that was depressing: Yeah, there

wasn't any for a while, and then the

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second season-- The first season's 26.

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The second season I think is

only eight or 10 episodes.

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Um, the second season is very short, and

then the remaining seasons are longer.

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Um, and I mean, they produced

this anime for a decade

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Victor: Oh, wow.

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Yeah.

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well now that was depressing: Uh, 2009

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Victor: we

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well now that was depressing: to

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Victor: uh, nine-

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well now that was depressing:

and a half years

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Victor: I think you said 94 episodes

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well now that was depressing: Yeah.

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Victor: of this.

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Yeah.

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well now that was depressing:

Or, oh, the m- the manga ran,

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correction, the manga ran 2009, 2021.

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The anime ran 2013 to 2023.

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So yeah, 10 years

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Victor: Yeah.

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See, I, uh, I like that.

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I wish we could get back to that,

to having these long-ass seasons.

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I don't like these six-episode seasons

that are the trend in TV today.

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Like, six episodes and then you

wait two years for the next season.

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That's bullshit, man.

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Guys, knock it off

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well now that was depressing: Yeah.

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The second bedroom Yeah

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Benjamin: My wife and I

are, uh, just wrapping up.

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We finally circled back around

to season two of Fallout.

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Victor: Oh yeah, I haven't finished it yet

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Benjamin: and I'm really enjoying

it even though it does make me sad

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sometimes, uh, it's the wasteland

and so everything's always sad.

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Um, well, and it's just like, yeah,

after the effect-- events of New

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Vegas, more Fallout bullshit happens.

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What did you expect?

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It's Fallout.

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Victor: Fallout

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Benjamin: Um,

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and so while it is sad being like,

"Oh man, all these places where

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I went and I, I saved the day.

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The day's not still saved."

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And it's like, yes, time

inevitably marches onward,

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War.

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War never changes

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Victor: Yeah.

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well now that was depressing: That

is the line Say he said the thing

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Victor: k- kinda like the same

thing that happened in, uh, with

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the Star Wars sequel trilogy.

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It's like, oh, it kinda made the Battle

of Endor in Return of the Jedi pointless

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because what happens in the next?

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Well, the fucking the Empire we

destroyed, well, okay, we got

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replaced by a new Em- another Empire.

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Anyway

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Benjamin: was pointless because

later other countries became shitty.

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It's like, no, you put out this

fire, and then in 20 years there's

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going to be another fucking

fire, and we put it the fuck out.

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Victor: Yeah.

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Well, before we get too

off track it, let's, uh,

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Benjamin: you don't defeat evil forever.

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You keep defeating evil all the time

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Victor: I, oh God, uh, I was about to

say, yeah, but then the, the new evil

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shows up and does the exact same shit

that the last evil did and no one learned.

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Oh, that's too, that

hits too close to home.

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Benjamin: Hmm,

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Victor: Ah.

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well now that was depressing: I

do remember some of the criticism

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that hit a lot harder, um, from

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Benjamin: Victor, are you going and

deleting all of your old posts from,

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uh, when Phantom Menace came out?

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Like, why would, uh, trade

policies and blockades be a thing

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that could destroy the galaxy?

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well now that was depressing: Yep

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Benjamin: But we digress.

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From our digression,

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Victor: Mm-hmm

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Benjamin: let us

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well now that was depressing: Yeah.

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Benjamin: and zdubs

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well now that was depressing:

Subs and dubs.

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Victor: Yep

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well now that was depressing:

Ben, you're a dubsman

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Benjamin: I am

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well now that was depressing: Uh, I

am the old weeb here sitting on the

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mountain high, uh, proclaiming subs.

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But I will admit that I do

watch dubs occasionally.

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It depends a lot on the production

and that dubs in general are a

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lot better than when I took my

hard stance of subs over dubs.

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You have to remember when, when it

was subs versus dubs, we were talking

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about stuff like Slayers and Sailor

Moon and Akira was a decent dub.

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Akira was the only good dub

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And the dub on the original Akira

before they redid it and, uh, and

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recut it was not even that good.

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Uh, so it wasn't until, like, Cowboy

Bebop came around that good dubs existed

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Victor: Yeah.

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I don't think I've seen Akira yet either

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Benjamin: here, uh, I want a girl who

will, or I want a woman who will kill me

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well now that was depressing: So

it's like I did watch a little bit

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of the dubs on this episode actually.

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Uh, there were a couple of lines

in particular I'm like, "I wonder

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what they translated this to because

this might have different meanings."

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And it sure did.

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Um, in particular when, uh, uh, there's

a scene maybe 10 minutes in where, uh,

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the leader of the, like, squadrons tells

Mikasa to watch o- over her lover, and

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she replies, "He's m- he's family."

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And that's what it says in the subs,

and in the dubs it's all like, "Watch

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after your boyfriend," or whatever.

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And she's just like, "It's not like that."

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It's not like that, and he's family.

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Victor: the, uh, context.

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Benjamin: difference

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Victor: R-

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well now that was depressing: So

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Victor: um, well, a couple months

ago on Demi Media TV, I made a, a

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Red Dwarf, uh, riff comic that I, I,

I do frequently, and there was a…

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I think it was a Polish guy

mentioned that of, of my, uh,

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parody, he finally understood what

was being said in this episode.

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Now, now in this particular Red

Dwarf episode, there was a, this, uh,

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over-the-top sexy Tran-type guy, uh,

named Ace Rimmer, and it was, it was

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just played for laughs that he was,

like, like, suave and irresistible.

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Anyway, uh, the, the secretary at the

space force, uh, place he worked at, uh,

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tells him, is like, "If, uh, if you're

interested, I'll be in my quarters

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at lunchtime covered in maple syrup."

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And, uh, and Ace, he says, "I'm

sorry, I don't, uh, I don't

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fraternize with the crew."

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And she says, "I resign."

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And he goes, "I'll be there at noon."

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So, uh, apparently the Polish

guy, he, he told me that…

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He's like, "Oh, wow."

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He's like when he watched it,

uh, originally in the Polish dub,

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the translation was when, when he

said, "I don't fraternize with the

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crew," was, uh, "I give up," which

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well now that was depressing: Hmm.

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Victor: the same thing.

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He's like, "Oh, it

finally makes sense now.

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She said, 'I resign.'"

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It's 'cause, like, reside, I give up, so

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well now that was depressing: Yeah

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Victor: in translation thing.

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So yeah, that was, uh…

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I'm proud I was able to help that guy.

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The moral of the story is,

uh, context is for kings.

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Universal laws for lackeys.

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Context is for kings

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well now that was depressing: And

this is exactly why I generally

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prefer subs over dubs, is because

you get that little bit extra.

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It has nothing to do with like,

oh, the original language.

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I mean, sometimes the class of voice

actor that a Japanese production

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will get will have a higher standard

for their Japanese actors compared

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to another company who's trying to

bring it over and make a quick buck.

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Victor: Yeah.

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well now that was depressing:

I'm looking at you, Saban.

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Victor: Yeah.

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That guy's a real piece of shit, but

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well now that was depressing: uh,

Funimation also very guilty of this.

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Um, we make Saturday morning

cartoons as cheaply as possible

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by buying other shows and dubbing

them over as cheaply as possible

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Benjamin: That

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Victor: man.

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Yeah

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Benjamin: Stories though,

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well now that was depressing:

That is how we get ghost stories.

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Victor: stories?

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Benjamin: anime of all time

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Victor: Oh,

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well now that was depressing:

and MXC, if we wanna be fair.

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Benjamin: So, uh, Victor, uh, Ghost

Stories very briefly is an anime

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where they got the show, uh, but

they didn't get the scripts, and so

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the voice actors just made it up.

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uh,

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Victor: it

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Benjamin: amazing.

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It is hilarious.

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Uh, it is s- mostly aged okay.

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Uh,

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well now that was depressing: Yeah

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Victor: That's kinda what, uh,

what was the premise of Sea

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Lab 2020, uh, was, wasn't it?

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I never watched the

show, but I've seen, like

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Benjamin: that.

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It was, I believe, an

actual new show meant

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to look like a shitty old '60s

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Victor: Really?

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well now that was depressing: Yeah

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Victor: wow.

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I thought it was a shitty old

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well now that was depressing:

Compared to, uh, what was the show

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before Space Ghost Coast to Coast?

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There was like a Space Ghost redub

show, I wanna say, that, uh, that

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they did a couple episodes of and then

they turned it into the talk show.

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Victor: Oh,

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well now that was depressing: 'Cause

Space Ghost, Brak Show, all that

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stuff, all that is reused animation

from old Hanna-Barbera stuff

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and Be forewarned, three

hams will certainly kill him.

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Benjamin: Anyway, uh, the

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Victor: Yeah

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Benjamin: like

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well now that was depressing:

At least turned into.

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Benjamin: is

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well now that was depressing: Yeah

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Benjamin: uh

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With me it is, I have not delved

deep enough into anime where

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I'm running into like, God, this

is an absolute dog shit," uh,

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well now that was depressing: Yeah.

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Benjamin: you know,

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well now that was depressing:

Well, the modern stuff that's

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not really the case for.

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Benjamin: Yeah

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well now that was depressing: So

it's not really the problem that

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it used to be back in my day.

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I mean, even stuff like, uh, Dandadan,

which is like a modern pop- very

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popular anime, has simo releases.

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The episode releases dub and Japanese

and English dubs the same day

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Victor: Hmm.

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well now that was depressing: You

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know?

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Like it's part of the production

process at this point for them.

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Benjamin: It,

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well now that was depressing: So

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Benjamin: of those weird things for me.

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If it's a cartoon, for some

reason my brain is just like,

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"Just put it in English."

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Like,

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well now that was depressing: Yeah

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Benjamin: I watched the, uh, the

new All Quiet on the Western Front,

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where it's all in German, subtitled.

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I have no problem with that.

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Victor: Yeah

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Benjamin: I will watch a foreign film.

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I, you know, if I'm watching,

you know, Brotherhood of the

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Wolf, it in French, dude.

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Um, you know, but for some reason

if it's anime, just dub it for me.

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That said, I've also…

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i've had a few situations where it has

been somebody trying to show me a sub

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like, really, really, like, going off

about how great the voice acting is

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in the original Japanese, and I'm just

like, I think it's o- it, it's fine."

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Um, and

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well now that was depressing: I don't

understand the nuances of the languages

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well enough to appreciate this.

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Benjamin: Well, or

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well now that was depressing:

100% fair take

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Benjamin: yeah, or just,

"Can't you feel the emotion?"

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And I'm just like, "I don't

know, it feels a little flat."

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Uh, where I feel like you really

enjoy this show and you are putting

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more on it than you think is there.

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Um, and that kinda put

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well now that was depressing: Yeah

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Benjamin: Um, but you know,

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well now that was depressing: I mean

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Benjamin: I will defer to especially

anything pre, you know, modern prestige

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anime, Jafeir is probably right

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well now that was depressing: Y- I mean,

yeah, I would definitely say, uh, enjoy

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what you're going to, uh, you know, or

rather experience the form in whatever

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way you will be able to enjoy it the most

because that is the most important thing.

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Uh, you are watching art for art's sake.

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Um, that might be a different

case if you're, if you're there

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to take it as not a form of

entertainment but rather an art form.

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Uh, then I might suggest you s-

stick to the original language,

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uh, for original director's intent.

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Um, for modern productions

that are dual language from the

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start, this does not matter.

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And for most modern produ- I mean,

for basically every anime in the last

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fif- 10 years at least, maybe 15 going

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matters a lot less than it used to.

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So just take it in however you're

gonna take it in the best way.

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And if that's dubs, that's dubs.

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If that's subs, that's subs.

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I mean, I'm someone who also will,

like, I watch everything with subtitles,

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Victor: Yes,

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well now that was depressing: and

anime in particular because of the

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sub-dub, when the words that they're

saying are not the words that I'm

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reading, it does give me brain hurties

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Victor: You know, that reminds

me of something I've seen…

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I saw recently about why it

seems that most people these

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days watch TV with subtitles on.

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It's, has a lot to do with, uh,

audio dialogue getting worse because

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the technology has gotten better.

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Like

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well now that was depressing: Yeah

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Victor: Yeah, like when TV first started,

you'll notice that, uh, if you go watch

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old '50s and '60s shows, they all talk

really loud like this, and they're

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projecting because they had to so the

microphones could, could pick them up.

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But, but now, now the, the

technology's gotten better.

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The actors, they, they, they

can just talk like this.

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What's that guy's name?

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The

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Benjamin: has gotten, like, horrible,

just in general, where th- there will

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be scenes where the conversations are,

like you said, Victor, just, just low

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I'm my emotions.

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And then there will

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well now that was depressing:

Do you wanna know,

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Benjamin: music

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well now that was depressing: you

wanna know the actual reason for that?

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The actual reason that's an,

uh, that's a problem these

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days more than anything else?

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Victor: Hmm.

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well now that was depressing:

Compression rates on streaming

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Do you hear the people sing?

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Singing the song of angry men.

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It is the music of a

people who will not be

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Victor: That too.

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Yeah.

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Oh, man,

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well now that was depressing:

That is a huge thing

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Victor: Mm-hmm

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well now that was depressing: because

having high quality audio is a lot more

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bandwidth power compared to having low

quality audio, and it just eats a ton of

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the bandwidth that's going into the visual

presentation most of the time because

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you're trying to stream a 4K video.

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Victor: Oh, yeah

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well now that was depressing: You

might notice if you watch stuff in

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1080 over 4K that the audio sounds

better, and that's because you're just

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having more of your internet available

for the sound compared to the video

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Victor: see, this is why it

freaking broke my heart when

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Netflix stopped shipping Blu-rays.

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Like, they just turned off

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well now that was depressing: Yeah

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Victor: they stopped doing it because,

you know, the some shit is just, it just

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some shit just doesn't stream right.

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You know?

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It gets…

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You get the…

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Ah, anyway.

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God, I sound like an old man.

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But still, I'm all about buying

physical media, until, uh,

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there is no physical media left.

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Benjamin: See, I disagree.

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I believe we have to abandon physical

media, abandon media as it is, and the

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only form of entertainment we should

get is people just acting out plays or

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movies that they vaguely remember, like

when they do Star Wars in Reign of Fire.

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Uh

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well now that was depressing:

Oh, you want Sweden movies?

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Yeah.

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Uh, the, the Be Kind Rewind style movies?

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Yeah

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Victor: Dude, yes.

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Oh, man.

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I knew that.

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Well, uh, speaking of, uh, things

abandoned, uh, much like physical media,

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the inner walls of the, uh, the inner…

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One, one of the inner layers of, uh, the,

the city, the city anime that we're in.

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What, what did you call it?

478

What'd you call this, Ben?

479

Mega City,

480

Benjamin: mega city one

481

Victor: Fantasy Mega City One.

482

Yeah.

483

Uh, it seems like, uh, the

inner layer of it, uh, just been

484

completely overrun with titans.

485

Yeah

486

well now that was depressing: So

if you'll notice, if you noticed,

487

Benjamin: This is one of the

488

well now that was depressing:

this is tr- this is trust.

489

Yes, exactly.

490

This is a bubble ci- city,

491

Victor: Trost is the name of Mega City

492

Benjamin: it is

493

name of this specific bubble

494

Victor: Oh, the

495

well now that was depressing:

the, so there's little, there's

496

these little bubble cities that

are small areas surrounded by

497

walls where there are cities.

498

Um, and they have these on

all three layers of the walls

499

based off the infographics we

had, or maybe the first two.

500

I don't know if they're

in the third layer.

501

So they'll have the, like, the wall,

the big wall, and then on the outer

502

edge there'll be, like, a little city

there, and then they'll have stuff on

503

the inside that's like pastures and

then people and stuff living in there,

504

but not necessarily super condensed.

505

And then the cities are these

little self-contained bubbles.

506

And there's, I wanna say four of them

507

Victor: but so,

508

well now that was depressing: each wall

509

Victor: so, so there's

still only three walls then?

510

Like the Maria, the Pinta, the

511

well now that was depressing: The,

there's the three, yeah, there's the

512

three big walls, but there's these

little bubbles on the outside of them.

513

Victor: Okay

514

well now that was depressing: the inner,

the, the third wa- most is city, city

515

Benjamin: All right, and Victor,

516

Victor: Yeah

517

Benjamin: can you name

Columbus' three ships?

518

Victor: I feel like I'm being set

519

well now that was depressing: It's

not it's not the same, but it's close

520

Victor: What, the Nina,

the Pinta, the Santa Maria?

521

Benjamin: There we go.

522

All right.

523

Victor: No, that's what I said.

524

That was a, that was a joke

about the, the, the walls.

525

I know

526

well now that was depressing: Yeah

527

Victor: Rose, and I forget

what the other one is.

528

Uh, Stella?

529

I don't know.

530

I don't remember what the…

531

well now that was depressing: Yeah

532

Victor: Uh, but anyway, uh, so we

open, uh, in media titan corral

533

Benjamin: last time on

without a option to skip.

534

Victor: Yeah, I noticed that.

535

Benjamin: Uh,

536

Victor: Yeah

537

well now that was depressing:

I had one on the jellyfin.

538

Victor: Oh, you had an

option to skip on the

539

Benjamin: on, uh, Hulu, it…

540

Just the first two and a half minutes

are all recap, which is more of

541

what I was talking about last time,

Victor, of, uh, hey, if we have a

542

two-minute intro and a two-minute

543

recap, that means we only need

to make 19 minutes of episode

544

Victor: Oh, oh, but,

545

well now that was depressing: Yeah

546

Victor: got the two-minute outro

as well, so that shaves another

547

well now that was depressing:

Yeah, these are 23-minute episodes.

548

Next season, or, uh, s- for season three

and four they actually drop down to 22.

549

Um, but I will say the last episode

is 84 minutes, so just know that now

550

Victor: Yeah.

551

Well

552

Benjamin: didn't actually

start until four minutes in,

553

Victor: I couldn't actually tell what was

going on, if it was actual episode or if

554

it was, uh, if this was the intro or if

this, this was the last time on recap.

555

I couldn't tell.

556

But either, yeah, I was like, "Oh,

this must be the part that…"

557

Benjamin: you the recap?

558

Victor: I was like, "This must be

the part that Ben told me to skip

559

Benjamin: which is the best anime intro

560

Victor: Uh, um, way, I didn't

really pick up too much.

561

I don't think there was too much spoilery

stuff in the narration last time on.

562

I don't remember shit except, you know,

this is the second time Titans have

563

attacked, which they already talked

564

well now that was depressing:

I, it's-- I didn't even watch it

565

Victor: Okay

566

well now that was depressing: and I've

already seen everything that happens.

567

Victor: Yeah.

568

So anyways, the

569

well now that was depressing: So I

don't know what was in there, but yeah

570

Victor: So after we get back from

the narrator recap, uh, we've got

571

the, was it the Scout Corps I guess

they're called, or the guards?

572

I forget what they're…

573

Like, they're not…

574

Whatever they're

575

Benjamin: then we also

have the, the elites

576

Victor: Yeah, the

577

well now that was depressing:

We've got the elites, we've got

578

the guard corps doing stuff.

579

This is mostly the guard

corps, that's the roses.

580

The roses are the guard corps.

581

Victor: the

582

well now that was depressing: And then,

uh, I don't think they say it in this

583

episode, but, uh, I don't think any of

you will have a prediction about this.

584

The, uh, like if you see like

Mikasa and a handful of the other

585

people, they just had the two plain

swords and not really an emblem.

586

Victor: Hmm.

587

well now that was depressing:

the training corps

588

Victor: Oh, okay.

589

well now that was depressing: So

those are the people that haven't

590

finished boot camp yet or whatever,

or haven't been assigned to a corps

591

Victor: Mm-hmm.

592

well now that was depressing: I yes,

there's a bit of that in this show.

593

Victor: Yeah.

594

Uh, well, I noticed that there has

been a time skip 'cause our, our

595

main characters are a little older.

596

Um

597

Benjamin: but we

598

Yes, everybody's older

599

well now that was depressing: How long

of a time skip do you guys think it was?

600

Just out of curiosity

601

Victor: Hmm, four or five years maybe.

602

Uh, 'cause it's like

603

Benjamin: gonna s- go six years,

'cause I think they were 10 and

604

I'm gonna say now they're 16

605

Victor: Yeah, that

606

well now that was depressing: Okay

607

Victor: Yeah.

608

Um, so anyway, the Rose Brigade

has all the Titans corralled, and

609

they're crammed shoulder to shoulder.

610

They look like, they look like they're

trying to get through the security

611

door at a Taylor Swift concert.

612

They're just, like,

fucking packed up in there.

613

And we meet the commander of the,

uh, I wrote the anti-Titan military,

614

uh, but this guy, this dude, he

looks like every grizzled veteran

615

stereotype ever, and I am here for it.

616

You know, they had a…

617

Benjamin: Yeah,

618

Victor: was like Michael

Ironside in Starship Troopers.

619

I only have one rule.

620

Everyone fights, no one quits.

621

If

622

Victor: I love the trope.

623

Oh, I had another…

624

Oh, oh, the, he also reminds me of the

sergeant major from, uh, We Were Soldiers.

625

You know, just a big,

gruff, old, old bastard.

626

L- I love it.

627

well now that was depressing: Yeah

628

Victor: it.

629

And, uh, and yeah, okay, so I

wrote down there's a time skip.

630

Um, so the Eren Titan, uh,

is fighting with M- Mikasa.

631

Benjamin: now

632

Victor: Yeah, Eren became a Titan somehow.

633

That's…

634

well now that was depressing:

Eren became a Titan

635

Victor: Mm-hmm.

636

Benjamin: What happened to her?

637

What happened here?

638

Can't explain But I got the van

639

Victor: I knew you were

gonna hit me with that.

640

I think he, uh, they, like you said, they

went back to, uh, his father's cellar,

641

and they found his experiments, and I

think he, uh, he had a baby Titan down

642

there, and he extracted his genes, the

baby Titan genes, and turned it into,

643

uh, a mutagen, like from Ninja Turtles.

644

And that's the only way they could figure

out how to, how to fight the Titans.

645

But,

646

well now that was depressing:

From like Ninja Turtles.

647

A+ job.

648

Benjamin: It can't be true

because as we have seen,

649

Victor: Uh

650

Benjamin: don't wear pants, so

how would he found his jeans?

651

Victor: Okay.

652

We gotta,

653

Benjamin: Victor, I

654

Victor: that slot on a bingo card.

655

Benjamin: stuff 101.

656

Do you know the funny thing

about the mutagen that made the

657

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?

658

Victor: What's that?

659

Benjamin: It's the same mutagen, uh,

radioactive substance that made Daredevil

660

Victor: Uh, so Daredevil and Ninja

Turtles take place in the same universe?

661

well now that was depressing: So,

662

Victor: Oh, God.

663

well now that was depressing: uh,

Ninja Turtles is an homage to Daredevil

664

Victor: What?

665

Shut

666

well now that was depressing: they 100%,

and the original Ninja Turtles 100%.

667

And, uh, the two creators were

giant Daredevil fans of Frank

668

Miller's run in the early '80s on

Daredevil, and it's 100% set up

669

Benjamin: eyes, went down

the sewer, made the turtles

670

well now that was depressing: Yes, 100%,

it's supposed to be that on purpose.

671

And this is eventually

retconned/confirmed, uh, as Ninja

672

Turtles became popular and people

who were writing Daredevil comics

673

were fans of Ninja Turtles.

674

They have just coalesced canon despite

Ninja Turtles not being Marvel characters

675

Benjamin: Victor, who

trained the Ninja Turtles?

676

Victor: Oh yeah, it was Splinter.

677

well now that was depressing: Yeah

678

Benjamin: who trained Daredevil?

679

well now that was depressing:

Uh, God, what's his name?

680

S- Stick, that's right.

681

And then who does Daredevil fight?

682

Benjamin: Uh,

683

well now that was depressing: Hand.

684

Who do the Ninja Turtles fight?

685

The Foot

686

Victor: Okay.

687

Oh my God.

688

well now that was depressing:

Yeah, there's stuff.

689

Yep

690

Victor: I was never

really big into Daredevil.

691

I could…

692

Benjamin: I

693

well now that was depressing: I

694

mean

695

Victor: uh, my first introduction

to that was the Ben Affleck

696

Daredevil, but whatever.

697

Benjamin: cut is

698

Victor: Yeah.

699

Benjamin: Or at least

700

Victor: Yeah.

701

Benjamin: It's still very nu metal

702

Victor: Nice.

703

Um,

704

Benjamin: But,

705

Victor: okay,

706

so,

707

So Mi- Mikasa, Mikasa, Mikasa … How

do they pronounce it again?

708

I always forget.

709

Anyway, it looks like Eren

Titan got his hand Skywalkered.

710

Like, got, like, smoke

billowing from his hands.

711

At one point

712

well now that was depressing:

from one of his hands,

713

Victor: Yeah

714

well now that was depressing: and then he

punches himself so hard smoke is billowing

715

from his other hand and it's a nubbin

716

Victor: that what it is?

717

She, yeah, uh, yeah, Mi- Mikasa, uh, dupes

718

well now that was depressing:

Mi casa, three syllables

719

Victor: Mikasa is who casa.

720

Anyway, she dupes him…

721

Benjamin: stop hitting

722

Victor: Yeah.

723

Exactly, and his hand explodes, he hits

himself so hard and knocks himself out.

724

That's…

725

Benjamin: You ever

726

Victor: Okay, that happened.

727

Benjamin: your hand explodes?

728

Victor: Oh, yeah, yeah,

729

like ev- every,

730

Benjamin: to

731

you?

732

Victor: like

733

well now that was depressing: All the time

734

Victor: Um,

735

Benjamin: Uh,

736

Victor: so then-

737

Benjamin: who is there to support Titan

Eren is like, "Ah, there's a six, a

738

10, and a 12-meter coming this way.

739

Uh, we have to withdraw."

740

And is a weird, uh, s- I, I, I would love

to talk to the person who wrote this.

741

when do you have your anime

manga character just talking

742

out loud to the universe and

I don't care who's hearing it?

743

And when do you have them just

do a long internal monologue?

744

'Cause we get both this episode, and

both times it d- they don't seem to care.

745

You know, if I'm doing a long outspoken

monologue, I don't care what anybody else

746

is saying or if they're even hearing it.

747

Sometimes they're doing

it alone, and it's like,

748

well now that was depressing: Yeah

749

Benjamin: is their mouth moving or not?

750

Um, and so I'm just-- I wanna know when

do you choose one versus the other?

751

Victor: Yeah, to deliver the exposition

for the audience like that, yeah.

752

Huh

753

well now that was depressing: I was

having an internal monologue while

754

you were going on that rant, Ben.

755

What was that?

756

Um, ba-da-ba-ba-da-ba

757

Victor: out Ar- Armin is also a

part of the, the, the Rose Brigade,

758

they're all watching from a distance.

759

Oh, they see the red flare.

760

That's what happens,

and they're like, "Oh,

761

well now that was depressing: Yeah

762

Victor: that means shit went down.

763

Shit went sideways."

764

Armin's like, "Hell, no," and he grabs

a tank of helium, and I'm assuming

765

he was gonna go run off to blow up

some party balloons to, uh, yeah.

766

Whatever

767

Benjamin: the Titans do

run like toddlers, so I do

768

Victor: They

769

well now that was depressing: Yes

770

Benjamin: puppy

771

Victor: Y-

772

Benjamin: like, it across

the city, they would

773

Victor: yeah, a diversion.

774

That sounds,

775

well now that was depressing:

The tanks are fuel for…

776

Victor: me.

777

I, I'm sure I know,

778

well now that was depressing: Okay.

779

Victor: what it's for,

but, you know, don't,

780

well now that was depressing: Yeah.

781

Victor: us.

782

well now that was depressing: Okay, cool

783

Benjamin: the, uh,

784

Victor: For the

785

Benjamin: have, we have Spider-Man at

786

well now that was depressing: Yeah.

787

Victor: Yeah.

788

well now that was depressing: Yeah,

for the Spider-Man at home, 100%.

789

Victor: that's what it was.

790

Yeah, I was trying to

791

well now that was depressing: uh, I

wanna call out real quick that there's

792

a moment where that Guardian Corp guys

were like, "We're just gonna leave Erin

793

behind," and Mikasa gives them a look

that makes them all change their mind.

794

Victor: Yeah.

795

Benjamin: I love that even amongst

the, like, the best of the best elite

796

soldiers, Mikasa is still scary.

797

If you ever disrespect my

wife again, I will end you.

798

I will fucking end you.

799

well now that was depressing: They,

there's a lot of lip service to how these

800

are the best soldiers in humanity, and we

see them get their shit wrecked, and we

801

see Mikasa kill Titans just carte blanche.

802

Benjamin: Yeah

803

Victor: Yeah

804

well now that was depressing: Even

the leader is all like, "Uh, you

805

just go do your own thing because

that's going to be more effective

806

than any orders I could give you."

807

Victor: Mm-hmm.

808

Yeah.

809

So,

810

Benjamin: I've,

811

Victor: the, we, we…

812

Go ahead

813

Benjamin: I've known people like that

where it's just like, "Go do your thing."

814

Uh,

815

well now that was depressing: Well yeah,

816

I mean, in LARP combat, Ben,

we've had moments where we've been

817

battlefield generals, and it's just

like, "You, you do this, you do

818

this, you go do your thing 100%."

819

Benjamin: 100%.

820

well now that was depressing: I'm

not gonna ask you to defend a line."

821

Benjamin: No

822

Uh, but they have this long

talk about how we're expendable.

823

None of

824

Victor: Mmhmm

825

Benjamin: into a Titan.

826

He can.

827

So if he gets his shit back

together, that's more, worth more

828

than any one of us being alive.

829

Um

830

well now that was depressing: percent

831

Victor: Yeah, that makes sense.

832

I mean, uh, how else are you gonna

fight these fucking giants, you know?

833

well now that was depressing: Yeah,

if there's any hope for humanity,

834

they've gotta have something else

than what they currently have

835

Victor: he says, "I don't know if,

if Eren's inside that Titan, but I

836

do know what is inside that Titan is

hope, and rebellions are built on hope

837

Benjamin: But then we see what is

actually in the Titan, and it's goo

838

well now that was depressing:

Palpatine, somehow he returned

839

Benjamin: Um, and we zoom inside the

Erin Titan and we see, it looks like

840

when Starbuck is inside the Cylon Raider

841

I thought they smelled bad on the outside.

842

Victor: Oh, that's an

843

well now that was depressing: Yep

844

Victor: Yeah.

845

I, I was, I was like…

846

I was gonna say that last time

on, we discovered that the

847

Titans are just, uh, organic mech

suits, and you could pilot them.

848

I, I, I was comparing them to the

shadow vessels from Babylon 5.

849

But, uh, yeah, y- y- you can, uh…

850

It's, it's my…

851

I'm gonna say what happened here

last time on is that it turns out

852

every Titan has, like, a little USB

port in the back of their neck that

853

you can just plug yourself into.

854

It's like a USB port,

but way more grotesque.

855

And the reason they…

856

USB.

857

Um, now all, all the other

Titans we've seen are pretty…

858

They're, they, they got some beer bellies.

859

They're kinda chonky.

860

So I'm gonna say what happened was

they found this, this one Titan

861

body that's just jacked, has no

body fat on him, and that's how Eren

862

was able to access the, the little

gooey USB port to plug himself in.

863

Uh, you know, the rest

864

well now that was depressing:

Just crawled in there

865

Victor: All, all the other ones

have the same port, but they're

866

covered up by blobs of, chonk.

867

well now that was depressing: Okay

868

Victor: That's my theory so far.

869

Benjamin: We get an interstitial

here where we find out that,

870

uh, recruit training, uh, they

just them use these, uh, these

871

omnidirectional bullshit harpoons,

872

Victor: Omni- omnidirectional

movement gear.

873

That's what-- ODM gear,

that's what it called.

874

Yeah

875

Benjamin: and it provides, like,

so many Gs that, like, it can break

876

your spine, and during training

they just let kids die, um,

877

Victor: Right.

878

Yeah, Yeah, I saw that.

879

They said that,

880

Benjamin: up

881

Victor: it's like, "Yeah, it may sound

harsh, but, uh, if they can't handle this,

882

then they can't handle fighting a Titan."

883

I'm like, "Oh,

884

well,

885

yeah

886

Benjamin: you can learn.

887

You know

888

what's really great is

learning from experiences.

889

Uh

890

well now that was depressing: Mm-hmm

891

Victor: the- these, this, this gear, I

gotta say, it looks badass on screen.

892

they, these things.

893

But then I, I decided to go look

up some, uh, some Attack on Titan

894

cosplay and in real life, when you

got these big giant boxes strapped

895

to your hips, you just look stupid.

896

well now that was depressing: Did you

happen to find, there's a very famous

897

cosplay, uh, from this anime that's

Eren Jagermeister, where instead of

898

having the two giant tins, it's two

giant bottles of Jager on their hips

899

Shots, shots, shots, shots, shots,

shots, shots, shots, shots, shots,

900

shots, shots, shots, shots, shots

901

Benjamin: That did remind me, I, do

wanna have a, uh, a challenge, Victor

902

Victor: Oh, yeah?

903

Benjamin: Uh, so Jafeir is exempt from

this because he's not making predictions.

904

Victor: Mm-hmm.

905

well now that was depressing: Okay

906

Benjamin: us

907

Victor: One of us.

908

Benjamin: will win and get to

909

Victor: Mmhmm Mmhmm

910

Benjamin: And I believe that

that, the, the loser have to, uh,

911

drink Jager in our go back episode

912

Victor: Ah, that, that's some

actual stakes right there.

913

I haven't had Jäger since I was, like, 22.

914

You're on, good sir.

915

Benjamin: I

916

Victor: the…

917

Benjamin: it.

918

Victor: I have…

919

It's vile.

920

Benjamin: it is, yeah.

921

Uh,

922

Victor: do, I'll do you…

923

I'll, I'll, I will see your, your

Jäger bet, and I will raise you, uh,

924

to a Starry Night, because this is

a, a drink I've only had once in my

925

entire life, and that was the night,

uh, I think I had just turned 21, my

926

buddy, fucking, you know, uh, this was

back when I'd first joined the Army.

927

So Private Victor was getting drunk at

a Bennigan's and got everyone kicked

928

out because I was being so loud,

because this guy kept buying me Starry

929

Nights that were just disgusting,

and I just kept drinking them.

930

It was like, "This

931

well now that was depressing:

We don't need to hurt ourselves.

932

We don't need to hurt ourselves.

933

Yeager, Yeag- Yeager is enough pain

934

Benjamin: All right.

935

I'll Starry

936

Victor: yeah, see.

937

Benjamin: Vincent

938

Victor: I'll Starry Night.

939

All right, let's do it.

940

well now that was depressing: Oh

no, Ben, no, put the knife down.

941

Victor: Nice.

942

well now that was depressing:

Get away from your ear

943

Victor: Okay.

944

So anyway, um,

945

Benjamin: I was,

946

Victor: yeah.

947

Benjamin: my ear off 'cause Vincent

948

well now that was depressing: Yeah.

949

Victor: So I

950

well now that was depressing: was,

951

yeah

952

Victor: down here in my notes,

maybe that's what the helium tank

953

is for, uh, the way that, uh…

954

I still don't completely understand

how, how the, the ODM gear lets these

955

guys Spider-Man themselves around.

956

They, they seem to be able to launch

themselves straight up in the air

957

without any visible explanation.

958

Um, I just got a text from my stepdad.

959

He, the,

960

the Spurs game stream froze.

961

He's asking me to come

downstairs and fix it, so I'll

962

well now that was depressing: Go

ahead and fix that stream real quick

963

Benjamin: Gonix

964

well now that was depressing: Man, uh,

I called the Knicks in five at the start

965

of the series, uh, before game one, and

I got laughed at at work, and then the

966

Knicks embarrassed the Spurs in game one.

967

Benjamin: they did

968

well now that was depressing: Uh, this

game, uh, the Spurs are winning by a

969

little bit, but it's still the first

quarter, so we'll see how it goes.

970

Benjamin: The

971

well now that was depressing:

I got the score

972

Benjamin: like in the third

quarter in the first game, and the

973

well now that was depressing: Yeah

974

Benjamin: stomped them at

975

well now that was depressing:

Found the afterburners.

976

Yeah

977

Benjamin: Uh, this has been

a weird year for me with my

978

weird fandoms, folks at home.

979

Uh, I

980

well now that was depressing: Ben,

no, no, uh, okay, you know, fuck it.

981

Let's do radio.

982

Go for it

983

No, no, no, no.

984

Come on.

985

I like it where it is.

986

No, seriously, come on.

987

Do it.

988

Do it.

989

Benjamin: I am not geographically

locked with my fandoms.

990

Uh

991

well now that was depressing: You

are, I would say, geographically

992

obstinate with your fandoms

993

Benjamin: true.

994

am a Boston Red Sox fan, and I feel it's

995

well now that was depressing: Boo

996

Benjamin: before they won anything.

997

Uh

998

well now that was depressing: Can confirm

999

Benjamin: Uh, I'm also, for

the same amount of time,

00:41:42,106 --> 00:41:43,456

been a New York Knicks fan.

00:41:44,296 --> 00:41:46,476

people do not like a Boston

team and a New York team.

00:41:46,486 --> 00:41:47,676

I'm weird that way, I know.

00:41:48,006 --> 00:41:53,126

Knicks, terrible for a long time, so

it's nice to see them actually being good

00:41:53,137 --> 00:41:54,897

well now that was depressing:

How did you pick these teams?

00:41:54,897 --> 00:41:57,117

Do you wanna give s- the

audience some insight into that?

00:41:57,936 --> 00:42:01,006

Benjamin: Um, I

00:42:01,211 --> 00:42:02,511

well now that was depressing:

You have no reason to

00:42:02,726 --> 00:42:03,376

Benjamin: No, I don't.

00:42:03,756 --> 00:42:04,376

Uh,

00:42:05,143 --> 00:42:07,223

well now that was depressing: At least

for the traditional reasons one has a team

00:42:07,626 --> 00:42:09,936

Benjamin: for the Knicks it's

because I really liked Patrick Ewing.

00:42:11,161 --> 00:42:11,481

well now that was depressing: Yeah

00:42:11,876 --> 00:42:13,516

Benjamin: Uh, I just, I liked him a lot.

00:42:13,676 --> 00:42:14,316

Uh,

00:42:15,189 --> 00:42:15,479

well now that was depressing: Okay

00:42:16,356 --> 00:42:17,196

Benjamin: I don't know what it was.

00:42:17,196 --> 00:42:20,246

I liked their logo, I liked Patrick

Ewing, and I'm just like, "I'll be a

00:42:20,409 --> 00:42:21,679

well now that was depressing:

Best actor in Space Jam

00:42:22,586 --> 00:42:27,496

Benjamin: Uh, he is, and

that is at you, Bill Murray.

00:42:27,696 --> 00:42:29,056

You're a terrible actor

00:42:30,343 --> 00:42:31,093

Victor: No, this is true.

00:42:31,443 --> 00:42:32,633

Bill Murray was in Space Jam?

00:42:32,633 --> 00:42:33,403

I don't remember that.

00:42:33,463 --> 00:42:33,863

well now that was depressing: Oh yeah.

00:42:34,313 --> 00:42:34,453

Victor: Now

00:42:34,453 --> 00:42:34,733

we

00:42:34,783 --> 00:42:37,593

well now that was depressing: Bill Murray

is one of the main drivers in Space Jam

00:42:37,619 --> 00:42:39,999

Victor: Oh, Wow, I must have d-

00:42:40,537 --> 00:42:42,977

well now that was depressing: If you

were to bill someone who wasn't Michael

00:42:42,977 --> 00:42:45,147

Jordan as the lead of Space Jam,

00:42:45,545 --> 00:42:46,265

Victor: Okay.

00:42:46,477 --> 00:42:46,877

well now that was depressing: Murray

00:42:47,085 --> 00:42:48,045

Victor: I'm vaguely remembering now.

00:42:48,045 --> 00:42:49,815

I'm, and we, we freaking watched that

00:42:50,015 --> 00:42:50,545

well now that was depressing: Mm.

00:42:50,605 --> 00:42:52,535

Victor: movie break on,

on this very podcast.

00:42:53,974 --> 00:42:54,454

Benjamin: Wayne Knight's

00:42:54,535 --> 00:42:54,965

Victor: anyway

00:42:54,974 --> 00:42:55,984

Benjamin: lot more of the film.

00:42:56,874 --> 00:42:57,384

Um

00:42:57,537 --> 00:42:57,907

Victor: Yeah

00:42:58,137 --> 00:43:00,807

well now that was depressing: yeah,

but you're not gonna bill Wayne

00:43:00,807 --> 00:43:05,477

Knight over Bill Murray ever, at any

point of their respective careers

00:43:05,974 --> 00:43:08,824

Benjamin: I'm sorry, was Bill

Murray on Third Rock From the Sun?

00:43:09,484 --> 00:43:10,344

don't think so

00:43:10,377 --> 00:43:10,937

well now that was depressing: Probably.

00:43:12,734 --> 00:43:12,984

Benjamin: I don't…

00:43:12,994 --> 00:43:14,694

Maybe he was the big giant head.

00:43:14,694 --> 00:43:15,244

I don't know.

00:43:15,284 --> 00:43:16,614

It feels like something they'd do.

00:43:17,223 --> 00:43:17,253

Victor: God.

00:43:18,243 --> 00:43:23,893

Uh, so we, apparently we have train tracks

and cannons, so this, uh, this, this,

00:43:23,942 --> 00:43:24,342

Benjamin: cool.

00:43:24,732 --> 00:43:24,882

It

00:43:24,973 --> 00:43:26,273

Victor: this show is moving towards,

00:43:26,402 --> 00:43:26,692

Benjamin: cool

00:43:27,723 --> 00:43:28,403

Victor: Well, it wouldn't work

00:43:28,844 --> 00:43:34,574

Benjamin: So you can put a cannon on

railroad tracks, but what you do is

00:43:34,574 --> 00:43:39,524

you have it so that the railroad tracks

are absorbing the recoil, and then you

00:43:39,524 --> 00:43:43,884

just push it back forward so that the

gun doesn't break itself when it fires.

00:43:44,193 --> 00:43:44,593

Victor: Yeah

00:43:44,594 --> 00:43:48,794

Benjamin: these guns are, instead

of being on the, the railroad tracks

00:43:48,824 --> 00:43:51,084

parallel, they are perpendicular.

00:43:51,824 --> 00:43:52,934

So when they fired,

00:43:53,099 --> 00:43:54,429

Victor: Oh, yeah.

00:43:54,929 --> 00:43:55,409

Okay.

00:43:55,929 --> 00:43:56,149

well now that was depressing: It's…

00:43:56,149 --> 00:43:56,369

Th-

00:43:56,564 --> 00:43:57,014

Benjamin: tracks

00:43:57,499 --> 00:43:59,789

well now that was depressing: there's

a very logical reason for this, which

00:43:59,789 --> 00:44:03,279

is you've got limited cannons and

you've got a large area to cover.

00:44:03,596 --> 00:44:03,856

Benjamin: Yeah,

00:44:03,876 --> 00:44:04,016

I

00:44:04,029 --> 00:44:06,859

well now that was depressing: It's

not about having them be firing from

00:44:06,859 --> 00:44:09,599

those positions, it's about getting

them to a place where they're…

00:44:09,621 --> 00:44:09,821

Victor: then they

00:44:09,869 --> 00:44:10,269

well now that was depressing: Yeah

00:44:10,361 --> 00:44:11,491

Victor: off and f- and shoot them.

00:44:11,771 --> 00:44:12,991

The, yeah, I can see that.

00:44:13,052 --> 00:44:13,182

Benjamin: they

00:44:13,281 --> 00:44:14,031

Victor: That, that does…

00:44:14,102 --> 00:44:15,492

Benjamin: stay, I think because it looks

00:44:15,492 --> 00:44:15,822

cool.

00:44:15,921 --> 00:44:16,391

Victor: find out.

00:44:16,391 --> 00:44:19,871

We'll, uh, we- maybe we'll see them

fire the things on, on, on screen,

00:44:19,871 --> 00:44:21,021

and, uh, we'll see how it works.

00:44:21,401 --> 00:44:27,391

That, that reminds me of, um, oh,

God, uh, The Cloverfield Paradox,

00:44:27,561 --> 00:44:29,281

which was such a disappointing movie.

00:44:30,341 --> 00:44:32,131

but one of the things that just…

00:44:33,321 --> 00:44:35,581

dude, it, it had so much

potential, and it's just…

00:44:35,911 --> 00:44:38,451

Anyway, one thing that drove me

crazy was on the freaking space

00:44:38,461 --> 00:44:43,601

station, had rotating sections,

they were rotating the wrong way.

00:44:43,901 --> 00:44:48,411

It's like they're, they're spinning

to generate gravity, they're standing,

00:44:48,461 --> 00:44:50,871

uh, y- perpendicular to the spin.

00:44:51,631 --> 00:44:55,111

think pr- yeah, it's hard to

explain, but they would be thrown

00:44:55,111 --> 00:44:56,701

against the wall if this were real.

00:44:57,401 --> 00:45:00,581

Like, uh, I, the, yeah, if you s-

00:45:00,828 --> 00:45:02,568

Benjamin: you are on the outside edge

00:45:02,571 --> 00:45:02,911

Victor: Mm-hmm.

00:45:03,641 --> 00:45:03,761

it,

00:45:03,897 --> 00:45:04,227

well now that was depressing: Yeah

00:45:04,401 --> 00:45:09,261

Victor: uh, one of those, like

the, the whatchacallit, the, the,

00:45:09,271 --> 00:45:14,031

the, the Space Needle restaurant

or those s- it's built like that.

00:45:14,741 --> 00:45:15,721

It's so stupid.

00:45:16,217 --> 00:45:16,587

well now that was depressing: Yeah

00:45:16,741 --> 00:45:16,891

Victor: Ugh.

00:45:17,091 --> 00:45:21,791

Anyway, um, anyway, my notes, uh,

say, yeah, we got train tracks

00:45:21,801 --> 00:45:27,011

and cannons, and this is moving

into steampunk territory, I think.

00:45:28,971 --> 00:45:29,451

Uh,

00:45:30,313 --> 00:45:31,313

well now that was depressing:

I think that's fair.

00:45:31,551 --> 00:45:31,971

Victor: yeah

00:45:32,183 --> 00:45:33,213

well now that was depressing:

that's the vibes.

00:45:33,612 --> 00:45:33,622

Benjamin: Mm-hmm.

00:45:34,017 --> 00:45:34,397

Victor: That's kinda

00:45:34,403 --> 00:45:37,503

well now that was depressing: It's

definitely like the, the houses

00:45:37,503 --> 00:45:41,113

and the architecture and stuff I

think fit in with that pretty well.

00:45:41,433 --> 00:45:47,193

Uh, like half jackets instead

of f- instead of trench coats.

00:45:47,203 --> 00:45:50,733

Yeah, like steampunk with half the jacket.

00:45:50,783 --> 00:45:52,903

Well, maybe a quarter of

the jacket from steampunk.

00:45:53,023 --> 00:45:53,383

Yeah

00:45:53,738 --> 00:45:57,668

Benjamin: We aren't quite

gunpowder fantasy, but we're close

00:45:58,145 --> 00:45:58,475

Victor: Mm-hmm.

00:45:59,395 --> 00:46:04,575

So back to the Captain Ian, he

reiterates that staying to defend

00:46:04,585 --> 00:46:07,165

the Eren Titan is their only hope.

00:46:08,121 --> 00:46:08,521

well now that was depressing: Mm-hmm.

00:46:08,795 --> 00:46:12,085

Victor: apparently Eren Titan

is supposed to regrow his lost

00:46:12,095 --> 00:46:19,095

limbs, so because, um, Mikasa is,

is like, "He's not regenerating."

00:46:19,125 --> 00:46:20,275

So okay, that's interesting.

00:46:20,275 --> 00:46:22,285

I guess that's a superpower that he has.

00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:26,269

well now that was depressing: Y-

she questions whether or not he

00:46:26,269 --> 00:46:28,039

is permanently injured as well.

00:46:28,209 --> 00:46:31,899

They don't really understand

how this works at this point

00:46:33,140 --> 00:46:36,720

Benjamin: And then Armin shows up

and Mikasa is just like, "Armin,

00:46:36,730 --> 00:46:38,000

what the fuck are you doing here?"

00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,430

And he's just like, "I don't know.

00:46:40,970 --> 00:46:41,760

What's going on?"

00:46:43,171 --> 00:46:43,471

Victor: Yeah

00:46:43,495 --> 00:46:45,505

well now that was depressing: Is, do

they play him for dumb in the dub?

00:46:45,615 --> 00:46:48,985

Because in the sub he's all like, "I

am here for this explicit purpose."

00:46:49,046 --> 00:46:49,746

Benjamin: like, "What the

00:46:50,095 --> 00:46:50,385

well now that was depressing: Okay

00:46:50,576 --> 00:46:50,846

Benjamin: guys?

00:46:50,846 --> 00:46:50,956

You're

00:46:51,033 --> 00:46:51,543

Victor: Yeah

00:46:51,826 --> 00:46:52,196

Benjamin: the day.

00:46:52,196 --> 00:46:52,946

I came to help."

00:46:53,226 --> 00:46:53,826

Uh, and

00:46:53,826 --> 00:46:54,216

she's just like,

00:46:54,449 --> 00:46:54,829

well now that was depressing: Yeah

00:46:54,951 --> 00:46:55,281

Victor: was like

00:46:55,376 --> 00:46:55,726

Benjamin: help?"

00:46:56,066 --> 00:46:58,726

And he's like, "I'm gonna stab my friend."

00:46:58,996 --> 00:46:59,256

Uh

00:47:01,211 --> 00:47:03,701

Victor: Gonna do some

makeshift surgery, uh

00:47:03,808 --> 00:47:07,918

Benjamin: tell you most

people do not take kindly to

00:47:10,097 --> 00:47:11,807

well now that was depressing:

Firsthand experience speaking there

00:47:12,901 --> 00:47:16,631

Victor: Um, we get another

Eren dream sequence.

00:47:17,081 --> 00:47:18,241

He's back home again.

00:47:18,271 --> 00:47:18,821

Uh, I think

00:47:18,925 --> 00:47:19,455

well now that was depressing: He's like

00:47:19,471 --> 00:47:20,411

Victor: reoccurring thing.

00:47:21,215 --> 00:47:22,745

well now that was depressing:

coma dreaming maybe?

00:47:23,621 --> 00:47:23,931

Victor: Uh, it

00:47:23,955 --> 00:47:24,535

well now that was depressing: Yeah

00:47:24,651 --> 00:47:26,811

Victor: of, um…

00:47:26,821 --> 00:47:27,811

Oh, what am I thinking of?

00:47:27,861 --> 00:47:30,721

Uh, I'm, I, I'm, I know this

is a trope, and there's tons of

00:47:30,721 --> 00:47:37,011

examples of it, of, um, uh, to break

someone out of a dream sequence.

00:47:37,941 --> 00:47:38,381

well now that was depressing: Yeah

00:47:38,451 --> 00:47:42,891

Victor: It's such a meme-able moment

that I need to screen cap and of the

00:47:42,891 --> 00:47:46,351

way, uh, Eren is just laying there

just like-- He looks like me every

00:47:46,351 --> 00:47:48,271

morning like, "I don't wanna move.

00:47:48,411 --> 00:47:49,341

I don't wanna give up."

00:47:50,361 --> 00:47:50,661

Yeah.

00:47:50,692 --> 00:47:50,852

Benjamin: like,

00:47:50,933 --> 00:47:51,333

well now that was depressing: Yeah

00:47:51,612 --> 00:47:53,152

Benjamin: I'm a snuggly, warm burrito."

00:47:53,472 --> 00:47:56,052

And Armin's just like, "Don't

you wanna get back at them?

00:47:56,052 --> 00:47:58,102

Don't you wanna kill the

things that killed your mom?"

00:47:58,412 --> 00:48:02,252

And he's like, "Armin, my

mom's not dead," starring

00:48:02,443 --> 00:48:02,953

Victor: there.

00:48:05,913 --> 00:48:10,663

The, the, the shot of Armin just

banging on the window frantically

00:48:11,633 --> 00:48:14,673

Eren just sitting there like,

"Eh," that is just such a good…

00:48:14,703 --> 00:48:15,143

That's

00:48:15,371 --> 00:48:16,581

well now that was depressing:

It's so good.

00:48:16,913 --> 00:48:17,263

Victor: I, I

00:48:17,441 --> 00:48:17,731

well now that was depressing: Yeah

00:48:17,933 --> 00:48:18,533

Victor: cap that.

00:48:20,093 --> 00:48:25,743

Um, so, uh, yeah, Eren, uh, that Eren

just like, "Bro, I'm trying to sleep."

00:48:26,213 --> 00:48:26,973

Doesn't wanna move.

00:48:27,003 --> 00:48:28,673

Uh, Ian leaps into battle.

00:48:29,113 --> 00:48:32,523

Um, Mikasa saves a fellow

scout from being eaten.

00:48:33,003 --> 00:48:37,143

Uh, then Ian's targeting

computer malfunctions, so

00:48:37,143 --> 00:48:38,483

he has to go use the Force.

00:48:40,023 --> 00:48:43,233

that's what I wrote down, 'cause

his, uh, his ODM gear breaks

00:48:43,913 --> 00:48:46,243

well now that was depressing:

Wait, so Ian is Gene?

00:48:46,558 --> 00:48:47,068

Benjamin: Yes

00:48:47,121 --> 00:48:47,541

Victor: Okay.

00:48:48,301 --> 00:48:48,591

What?

00:48:50,398 --> 00:48:50,538

Benjamin: It

00:48:50,675 --> 00:48:53,055

well now that was depressing:

He's Gene in the subs

00:48:53,161 --> 00:48:53,491

Victor: wow.

00:48:53,541 --> 00:48:53,971

Okay.

00:48:54,301 --> 00:48:54,711

Weird.

00:48:54,826 --> 00:48:56,126

Benjamin: is Gene in the dub as well.

00:48:56,576 --> 00:48:57,996

I don't know where Ian came from

00:48:58,691 --> 00:48:58,841

Victor: I've

00:48:58,931 --> 00:48:59,341

well now that was depressing: Okay

00:48:59,551 --> 00:49:03,681

Victor: The Rose Brigade, they run

with their swords behind their back.

00:49:03,691 --> 00:49:05,661

The, like, it looks

just like a Naruto run.

00:49:07,833 --> 00:49:09,763

well now that was depressing:

I mean, Naruto was a popular

00:49:09,763 --> 00:49:11,263

anime at the time of release

00:49:11,557 --> 00:49:12,897

Victor: There's a YouTube clips

00:49:13,010 --> 00:49:14,750

Benjamin: hard to make

sure my son doesn't do that

00:49:17,017 --> 00:49:17,417

well now that was depressing: Yeah

00:49:17,686 --> 00:49:18,236

Benjamin: "No

00:49:18,975 --> 00:49:23,105

Victor: There, there's a great,

uh, YouTube, like, low-budget

00:49:23,315 --> 00:49:27,305

MythBusters that, uh, tried to

experiment to see if Naruto running

00:49:27,345 --> 00:49:29,465

is actually make you run faster.

00:49:30,485 --> 00:49:32,055

They had a couple of track athletes.

00:49:32,075 --> 00:49:33,065

Yeah, yeah, no, it doesn't.

00:49:33,445 --> 00:49:33,935

It's just that…

00:49:33,935 --> 00:49:37,105

It's like maybe you're more aerodynamic.

00:49:37,265 --> 00:49:39,635

Uh, no, no, you, you just look dumb, so