And today, we’re talking about the 1983 classic Trading Places, which tells the tale of The extremely wealthy Wall Street executives Duke brothers who decide to place a friendly bet to see if nature beats nurture. They take the star employee at their financial firm, Louis Winthorpe III, and try to see if a destitute Black man, Billy Ray Valentine, can effectively take his place and learn the ropes of the finance world if he’s given all of the privileges of his predecessor. The Dukes' exercise their power to take away Winthorpe’s job, home, and wealth and transfer it to Valentine to see whether nature or nurture wins out. And then blackface, the n-word, and bad Jamaican accents ensue!
The film stars Eddie Murphy, Dan Aykroyd, Jamie Lee Curtis, Don Ameche, Ralph Bellamy, and Denholm Elliot. It is directed by Jonathan Landis and has a run time of 1 hr 56 min.
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Speaker: She's the least offensive of all of them, I think.
Speaker:Speaker: I think Eddie Murphy gets away with it because at least he's
Speaker:Speaker: not in blackface.
Speaker:Speaker: That would be really bad.
Speaker:Speaker: I mean, if the movie went there,
Speaker:Speaker: that would be pretty terrible,
Speaker:Speaker: right?
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Speaker:Speaker: Welcome to cinematic problematic.
Speaker:Speaker: I am Aaron Maxwell, and I'm Christina Redic.
Speaker:Speaker: And today we are going to look at the film Trading Places, the
Speaker:Speaker: important cinematic adventure that asks us the question, do
Speaker:Speaker: you want to funk?
Speaker:Speaker: Inspired by Prince and the
Speaker:Speaker: pauper by Mark Twain, this was a
Speaker:Speaker: movie originally written for
Speaker:Speaker: Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor,
Speaker:Speaker: and then added a well-known
Speaker:Speaker: scream queen when those two were
Speaker:Speaker: unavailable.
Speaker:Speaker: So now starring Eddie Murphy, Dan Aykroyd.
Speaker:Speaker: A twenty four year old Jamie Lee
Speaker:Speaker: Curtis and Don Ameche, and Ralph
Speaker:Speaker: Bellamy with Paul Gleason as
Speaker:Speaker: Beaks.
Speaker:Speaker: This movie was a hit when it came out.
Speaker:Speaker: Made for fifteen million dollars
Speaker:Speaker: and it grossed over ninety
Speaker:Speaker: million worldwide.
Speaker:Speaker: It cemented the star status of all of its cast and its
Speaker:Speaker: director, John Landis, making him a blockbuster director.
Speaker:Speaker: Taking on classism and racism,
Speaker:Speaker: this movie was voted one of the
Speaker:Speaker: top comedies of all time by
Speaker:Speaker: Premiere magazine.
Speaker:Speaker: AU premiere.
Speaker:Speaker: Yay!
Speaker:Speaker: But despite all of its success,
Speaker:Speaker: it is not without a few glaring
Speaker:Speaker: issues.
Speaker:Speaker: And that is what we are here to discuss today.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, we're going to discuss how we should be horrified by this
Speaker:Speaker: movie while we love it.
Speaker:Speaker: All right.
Speaker:Speaker: So I'm going to first do what we do and just talk about my first
Speaker:Speaker: time seeing this movie and my recollections of it as a child.
Speaker:Speaker: So I was a little bit older when I saw this one.
Speaker:Speaker: Like, uh, maybe.
Speaker:Speaker: I mean, when I say older, I mean like ten or something, like I
Speaker:Speaker: didn't see I don't think immediately when it came out.
Speaker:Speaker: So Eddie Murphy was still, like, on fire.
Speaker:Speaker: Like he was like, still like, super popular and everything.
Speaker:Speaker: And I remember watching this movie and not really thinking
Speaker:Speaker: anything of how bad this bet was that these two guys did, because
Speaker:Speaker: I had no moral center.
Speaker:Speaker: I was ten, so whatever.
Speaker:Speaker: And then I remember hearing the N word was really shocking
Speaker:Speaker: because it always just was.
Speaker:Speaker: Back then, like when you were a little kid, you hear that word
Speaker:Speaker: and you're like, ah, that hurts.
Speaker:Speaker: And so I think that was like the most shocking part of it.
Speaker:Speaker: Um, the rest of it I just found hilarious.
Speaker:Speaker: Like I had no problems with it whatsoever.
Speaker:Speaker: But I think that once I grew up, I did start to see some of the
Speaker:Speaker: problematic issues with it.
Speaker:Speaker: So, yeah, I mean, I've loved this movie forever.
Speaker:Speaker: I've only watched it maybe, I
Speaker:Speaker: think five times in my life,
Speaker:Speaker: probably total, most of them way
Speaker:Speaker: longer ago, um, up until
Speaker:Speaker: recently.
Speaker:Speaker: And I was expecting it to be way worse than what I recall from
Speaker:Speaker: it, but it actually like there's a couple of like glaring things
Speaker:Speaker: that are bad, but other than that, it's just kind of like a
Speaker:Speaker: fun 80s comedy.
Speaker:Speaker: But we're gonna get to it.
Speaker:Speaker: We're gonna get to the bad stuff.
Speaker:Speaker: What was your experience like?
Speaker:Speaker: This was the first movie where I saw boobs.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, I was very.
Speaker:Speaker: It's all I know.
Speaker:Speaker: It was very exciting.
Speaker:Speaker: I saw it on HBO.
Speaker:Speaker: I was very excited.
Speaker:Speaker: And when it came to the party scene where, um, Billy Ray
Speaker:Speaker: Valentine invited everybody over to the house from the bar so we
Speaker:Speaker: can show off his new digs, and all of the women started taking
Speaker:Speaker: off their tops.
Speaker:Speaker: That's where I saw boobs.
Speaker:Speaker: I mean, I had seen boobs before outside of my family, but not
Speaker:Speaker: like other boobs.
Speaker:Speaker: I mean, okay, I also went to,
Speaker:Speaker: like, a loehmann's dressing
Speaker:Speaker: room.
Speaker:Speaker: And you saw, like, old lady boobs there.
Speaker:Speaker: But this was like, the first time you saw, like, nice boobs.
Speaker:Speaker: But wait a second.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay, so.
Speaker:Speaker: So you must have seen this one a little bit later, too.
Speaker:Speaker: I'm guessing you didn't see it, like, right when it came out,
Speaker:Speaker: because there were other movies like revenge of the nerds.
Speaker:Speaker: Obviously, that definitely showed boobs.
Speaker:Speaker: I saw an edited version of revenge of the nerds.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, God.
Speaker:Speaker: Yes.
Speaker:Speaker: Was it like ten minutes long?
Speaker:Speaker: It was.
Speaker:Speaker: Did not have as much breasts as as you would imagine.
Speaker:Speaker: And I did see that later on.
Speaker:Speaker: Like a fully.
Speaker:Speaker: This is the one where I did see full on nudity.
Speaker:Speaker: Wow.
Speaker:Speaker: So you must have.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay, so you must have seen this one maybe, like, right when it
Speaker:Speaker: came out or around that time.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: So I would say like it took like a year and a half I guess, to
Speaker:Speaker: get to cable.
Speaker:Speaker: So that's like a year and a half.
Speaker:Speaker: So I want to say it was like eighty four.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay.
Speaker:Speaker: Because the eighties were
Speaker:Speaker: obsessed with boobs or boobs
Speaker:Speaker: everywhere.
Speaker:Speaker: It was just like they got carte blanche to like, show boobs.
Speaker:Speaker: And like, every movie tried to find a way to show boobs, right?
Speaker:Speaker: My parents were actually.
Speaker:Speaker: Really?
Speaker:Speaker: Well, not my dad as much.
Speaker:Speaker: My mom tried really hard to keep our childhood boob free.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh. My mom tried to so much in vain.
Speaker:Speaker: I remember seeing Dangerous Liaisons in the theater, and she
Speaker:Speaker: kept on trying to cover my eyes, and I was like, nice try, woman.
Speaker:Speaker: Do you know who my father is?
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: My mom tried to take us to
Speaker:Speaker: Educating Rita, and like all of
Speaker:Speaker: her attempts to educate us,
Speaker:Speaker: failed.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, man, you're not going to like.
Speaker:Speaker: We're not going to be cultured.
Speaker:Speaker: We will not be.
Speaker:Speaker: We will not be held back.
Speaker:Speaker: We're gonna go home and watch the Pac-Man cartoon and undo all
Speaker:Speaker: of your efforts.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, man.
Speaker:Speaker: But, yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Saw it.
Speaker:Speaker: Loved it.
Speaker:Speaker: Had no idea how this movie ended when I was a child.
Speaker:Speaker: Like, I knew that they won, but
Speaker:Speaker: I just didn't understand the
Speaker:Speaker: ending.
Speaker:Speaker: I had no concept of why they won, how they won.
Speaker:Speaker: And like, because I just didn't
Speaker:Speaker: understand how the stock market
Speaker:Speaker: worked.
Speaker:Speaker: I still kind of don't get it myself.
Speaker:Speaker: And I have been studying the stock market for the past few
Speaker:Speaker: years, and I'm still kind of confused by it, but, uh, it
Speaker:Speaker: doesn't really matter.
Speaker:Speaker: It's like they want it's like when I watch industry, it's like
Speaker:Speaker: that show might as well be in Spanish or Chinese or something
Speaker:Speaker: to me, because I know neither of those languages, and that's what
Speaker:Speaker: it sounds like.
Speaker:Speaker: They're speaking to me.
Speaker:Speaker: Sometimes I'm just like, I have no freaking idea what you're
Speaker:Speaker: saying, and I just wait to see a character freaking out.
Speaker:Speaker: And I'm like, oh, that's bad, that's bad.
Speaker:Speaker: Something bad is happening.
Speaker:Speaker: So that's how I read the stock market is by reading other
Speaker:Speaker: people's facial expressions.
Speaker:Speaker: I yeah, I just knew that the rich guys are now poor.
Speaker:Speaker: The poor guys are now rich.
Speaker:Speaker: Everybody's happy.
Speaker:Speaker: All the wrongs have been righted and everybody's happy.
Speaker:Speaker: Now the race is loose.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, the race is loose.
Speaker:Speaker: We like them losing.
Speaker:Speaker: We don't like them toying with people's lives.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay.
Speaker:Speaker: Are we ready to go into the charges against them?
Speaker:Speaker: Yes.
Speaker:Speaker: So now we're going to go deep
Speaker:Speaker: into the charges against the
Speaker:Speaker: film.
Speaker:Speaker: Please lead the way.
Speaker:Speaker: All right, all right.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay.
Speaker:Speaker: So I think like, the first thing that is probably the most
Speaker:Speaker: egregious is like this, the, the premise alone of this bet.
Speaker:Speaker: Right.
Speaker:Speaker: So, um, as we all know, the Dukes, the Duke brothers, I
Speaker:Speaker: think it's like.
Speaker:Speaker: What?
Speaker:Speaker: Mortimer and Randolph.
Speaker:Speaker: Yes.
Speaker:Speaker: Yes.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay.
Speaker:Speaker: Mortimer is like the one that's less bad, right?
Speaker:Speaker: And Randolph is the bad one.
Speaker:Speaker: They're both terrible.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay, so they're equally
Speaker:Speaker: terrible for different reasons,
Speaker:Speaker: but they're both terrible at the
Speaker:Speaker: end.
Speaker:Speaker: So. So the crime here is gambling with people's lives and
Speaker:Speaker: effectively using their power to completely strip Dan Aykroyd of
Speaker:Speaker: his wealth, his home, his standing, his job, everything.
Speaker:Speaker: And giving that to Eddie Murphy as just a game.
Speaker:Speaker: This was like a game to them.
Speaker:Speaker: Let's see.
Speaker:Speaker: Like, let's challenge our like, nature versus nurture thoughts.
Speaker:Speaker: Um, with these two men and let's completely upend their lives,
Speaker:Speaker: um, in different ways and see if we are right.
Speaker:Speaker: And we're going to bet a dollar
Speaker:Speaker: for it, all the while holding
Speaker:Speaker: very racist thoughts about black
Speaker:Speaker: people.
Speaker:Speaker: Uh, one way more than others, I will say.
Speaker:Speaker: But yeah, I mean, that's the biggest crime.
Speaker:Speaker: Like the premise alone, the very premise of the film is a crime.
Speaker:Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker:Speaker: I don't know if they could do this today.
Speaker:Speaker: I'm not entirely sure they could
Speaker:Speaker: pull it off because I just
Speaker:Speaker: don't.
Speaker:Speaker: I think people are like, they
Speaker:Speaker: just don't have the stomach for
Speaker:Speaker: it.
Speaker:Speaker: Like, even though I still love
Speaker:Speaker: this movie, like, I adore this
Speaker:Speaker: movie, but I. the the premise
Speaker:Speaker: alone.
Speaker:Speaker: Like, I feel like you couldn't even ask the question today.
Speaker:Speaker: I mean, we've seen the premise before in movies like Can't
Speaker:Speaker: Hardly Wait or She's All That.
Speaker:Speaker: We've just seen it with like lower risk.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Way lower risk.
Speaker:Speaker: Lower risk.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: And also like there is the
Speaker:Speaker: implication that they make where
Speaker:Speaker: they've done this hundreds of
Speaker:Speaker: times.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: No. Oh yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: They have ruined hundreds, if not thousands of lives with
Speaker:Speaker: their little petty games.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: And but it seems like this is
Speaker:Speaker: like, the first time that
Speaker:Speaker: they've tried it in this kind of
Speaker:Speaker: context, though.
Speaker:Speaker: You know, it's like, let's, let's let's take a completely,
Speaker:Speaker: like, destitute black man who has turned to a life of crime or
Speaker:Speaker: whatever they say.
Speaker:Speaker: And, you know, let's swap places and see if, like, if he's just
Speaker:Speaker: given the right, like if he's given the right opportunities
Speaker:Speaker: and the right privileges, then he's going to excel just as much
Speaker:Speaker: as the white person.
Speaker:Speaker: Now, at the end of it, you know, you could argue one could argue
Speaker:Speaker: that it is making an argument for the nurture argument, right?
Speaker:Speaker: Which says that if you give
Speaker:Speaker: people the right resources, they
Speaker:Speaker: will flourish.
Speaker:Speaker: So in a sense, like in the end,
Speaker:Speaker: you could you could argue that
Speaker:Speaker: it's trying to say something
Speaker:Speaker: positive.
Speaker:Speaker: But the way that they get there, oh my God, I mean, is it
Speaker:Speaker: shocking that if you treat someone with a little fucking
Speaker:Speaker: dignity that they're going to, like, thrive in that situation?
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: I mean, I mean, look, it's obvious to us, right?
Speaker:Speaker: It's obvious to us.
Speaker:Speaker: I don't think that there's any
Speaker:Speaker: question there, but yeah, like
Speaker:Speaker: the premise alone is super
Speaker:Speaker: cringe.
Speaker:Speaker: And as you're kind of like
Speaker:Speaker: watching it go down, you're just
Speaker:Speaker: like, oof, oh, yeah, I remember
Speaker:Speaker: this.
Speaker:Speaker: It's like, I didn't think a thing of it when I was a kid,
Speaker:Speaker: though, like didn't think one thing of it.
Speaker:Speaker: I was just like, yeah, okay.
Speaker:Speaker: Like, go ahead and run the bet.
Speaker:Speaker: Like, it just didn't even cross my mind really, until they got
Speaker:Speaker: like, you know, like I said, you know, hearing like the n word at
Speaker:Speaker: the end, I was like, oh, okay, this is this isn't good anymore.
Speaker:Speaker: This is bad.
Speaker:Speaker: I want to see them go down and usually using the n word in any
Speaker:Speaker: movie would give anybody pause.
Speaker:Speaker: As it should.
Speaker:Speaker: But because they are the villains, you want them to go
Speaker:Speaker: down even more.
Speaker:Speaker: Yes.
Speaker:Speaker: You want to see them fail?
Speaker:Speaker: Yes.
Speaker:Speaker: Because they're evil.
Speaker:Speaker: And you know that because of their use of language.
Speaker:Speaker: Yes.
Speaker:Speaker: Yes.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: If it wasn't clear at the beginning of the movie, it's
Speaker:Speaker: certainly clear towards the end, in the bathroom scene where
Speaker:Speaker: Eddie Murphy's character is hiding in the stall and
Speaker:Speaker: overhears the Dukes talking about the bet.
Speaker:Speaker: And I think that's when they drop it, right?
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, yeah, that's when they drop the the line.
Speaker:Speaker: All right.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, that's like the biggest one.
Speaker:Speaker: That's the big enchilada.
Speaker:Speaker: Any more thoughts on the premise?
Speaker:Speaker: On the premise itself?
Speaker:Speaker: There is lessons to be learned.
Speaker:Speaker: Like, I feel like Winthrop did need to learn a lesson there,
Speaker:Speaker: because I think he's supposed to be, like, in his twenties, even
Speaker:Speaker: though Dan Aykroyd, I don't think, was in his twenties.
Speaker:Speaker: Jamie Lee Curtis doesn't look in her twenties.
Speaker:Speaker: No, but she was twenty four.
Speaker:Speaker: I know, that's nuts.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: It's nuts.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, and Eddie Murphy was twenty one.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, I believe that for sure.
Speaker:Speaker: I totally believe that.
Speaker:Speaker: And I'm going to say this several times.
Speaker:Speaker: And Eddie Murphy is absolutely fantastic in this movie.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, my God, he's so good.
Speaker:Speaker: This is prime Eddie Murphy.
Speaker:Speaker: This is this is why he is a star.
Speaker:Speaker: He's a genius.
Speaker:Speaker: Absolute genius.
Speaker:Speaker: He's a genius.
Speaker:Speaker: We love him.
Speaker:Speaker: But as for the experiment itself, the only good you could
Speaker:Speaker: have gotten out of this experiment was the fact that
Speaker:Speaker: Winthrop learned something.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: No. Winthrop is a dick because he is an absolute dick.
Speaker:Speaker: And you take a lot of.
Speaker:Speaker: Or at least I took a lot of
Speaker:Speaker: pleasure in watching him lose
Speaker:Speaker: everything.
Speaker:Speaker: Yes.
Speaker:Speaker: Because he's such a pompous asshole.
Speaker:Speaker: And he's like, one of those guys
Speaker:Speaker: that, you know, sees a black man
Speaker:Speaker: on the street and starts
Speaker:Speaker: screaming.
Speaker:Speaker: He's trying to.
Speaker:Speaker: He's trying to rob me.
Speaker:Speaker: This man's trying to rob me.
Speaker:Speaker: You know, it's like, ah.
Speaker:Speaker: It's like you kind of do want to
Speaker:Speaker: see this guy go down, but you
Speaker:Speaker: have to kind of like give Dan
Speaker:Speaker: Aykroyd a little bit of credit,
Speaker:Speaker: too, because he does take this
Speaker:Speaker: character from being, like,
Speaker:Speaker: somewhat despicable and totally
Speaker:Speaker: unlikable Likable to like seeing
Speaker:Speaker: him down in the dumps, to see
Speaker:Speaker: him kind of turn over a new leaf
Speaker:Speaker: and whatever.
Speaker:Speaker: Like he hits bottom in a pretty memorable way.
Speaker:Speaker: But that Santa is the Santa.
Speaker:Speaker: So good.
Speaker:Speaker: I mean, I'm still waiting for a
Speaker:Speaker: Halloween for someone to do that
Speaker:Speaker: Santa with a salmon stuck in his
Speaker:Speaker: beard.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, just like sit across from you to party, eating salmon out
Speaker:Speaker: of his beard and, like, so I could just do a slow clap.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, my God, somebody needs to do that.
Speaker:Speaker: I want I I'm gonna I'm gonna talk my husband into doing.
Speaker:Speaker: I'll be Ophelia and then he'll be like salmon eating Santa.
Speaker:Speaker: And you have to get like, the beard all matted and sooty.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: You know, and, like, just really, there's no other way.
Speaker:Speaker: No, it has to be.
Speaker:Speaker: You have to, like, carry around a flask and you're like Santa
Speaker:Speaker: pocket for a group costume.
Speaker:Speaker: You just have other people dressed as disgusted bus people
Speaker:Speaker: looking at you.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, or they could be the characters from the train.
Speaker:Speaker: Shall we go into that?
Speaker:Speaker: I'm sorry.
Speaker:Speaker: Our next crime.
Speaker:Speaker: Our next crime.
Speaker:Speaker: Erin doesn't even want to talk about it.
Speaker:Speaker: Do you want me to talk about it first, or do you want to go?
Speaker:Speaker: I would feel more comfortable if you were to talk about it first.
Speaker:Speaker: I do have more protection
Speaker:Speaker: naturally when talking about
Speaker:Speaker: this, and I will agree with you
Speaker:Speaker: enthusiastically with everything
Speaker:Speaker: I say.
Speaker:Speaker: Just nod and say yes.
Speaker:Speaker: Yes, you're right.
Speaker:Speaker: That was that was really bad.
Speaker:Speaker: Um, okay, so the next one.
Speaker:Speaker: I don't even know how you describe we.
Speaker:Speaker: I had a hard time even naming
Speaker:Speaker: what this crime is, because it
Speaker:Speaker: is like a movie's worth of
Speaker:Speaker: stereotypes into, like, one five
Speaker:Speaker: minute scene.
Speaker:Speaker: It's like all of, like, the bad things that happen in, like,
Speaker:Speaker: revenge of the nerds in, like, one confined scene.
Speaker:Speaker: So beaks has the briefcase with the numbers from, like, the
Speaker:Speaker: orange juice Fucking Futures or whatever the fuck it is.
Speaker:Speaker: Right?
Speaker:Speaker: The stuff that the Dukes want
Speaker:Speaker: has the briefcase in the train
Speaker:Speaker: car, and the idea is to
Speaker:Speaker: intercept this and do a little
Speaker:Speaker: bit of a switcheroo with the
Speaker:Speaker: briefcases.
Speaker:Speaker: Right.
Speaker:Speaker: So our our cast of characters are now all friends.
Speaker:Speaker: Eddie Murphy's character, Billy Ray Valentine.
Speaker:Speaker: Winthorpe.
Speaker:Speaker: Ophelia and the Butler.
Speaker:Speaker: Coleman.
Speaker:Speaker: Coleman.
Speaker:Speaker: Coleman.
Speaker:Speaker: Denholm.
Speaker:Speaker: Elliott.
Speaker:Speaker: Thank you Denholm.
Speaker:Speaker: So they all go in at various times in disguise, and the first
Speaker:Speaker: one to enter is Eddie Murphy's character, who is from Cameroon.
Speaker:Speaker: And the best thing about this character?
Speaker:Speaker: He walks in and I don't even know what you call this device,
Speaker:Speaker: but he's like swatting imaginary flies away from himself on a bus
Speaker:Speaker: or a train that has no flies on it, by the way.
Speaker:Speaker: But the implication is that he's
Speaker:Speaker: so used to swatting flies away
Speaker:Speaker: that it's just part of his
Speaker:Speaker: natural movement as a person
Speaker:Speaker: from Cameroon, and he sits down
Speaker:Speaker: and does like the stereotypical
Speaker:Speaker: all smiling like student from
Speaker:Speaker: Cameroon and just like swatting
Speaker:Speaker: flies away from himself, doing
Speaker:Speaker: the accent and everything,
Speaker:Speaker: you're like, okay, that's Eddie
Speaker:Speaker: Murphy.
Speaker:Speaker: I guess he can get away with that, right?
Speaker:Speaker: And so you're not too scared until.
Speaker:Speaker: And then I believe that's when Coleman comes in.
Speaker:Speaker: That's when Coleman comes in,
Speaker:Speaker: and then he's just a drunk Irish
Speaker:Speaker: priest.
Speaker:Speaker: Yes.
Speaker:Speaker: And so then we have our next.
Speaker:Speaker: Not a great stereotype.
Speaker:Speaker: Not a good look for for people from Ireland.
Speaker:Speaker: It's just, you know, he's coming in.
Speaker:Speaker: He's he's all dolled up, he's
Speaker:Speaker: offering drinks out of his flask
Speaker:Speaker: and kindly turns down some beef
Speaker:Speaker: jerky.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: You know, but not again, not the greatest.
Speaker:Speaker: Look, we're we're about to see.
Speaker:Speaker: We're about to see much worse.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: So by comparison.
Speaker:Speaker: But it's fine.
Speaker:Speaker: Right now we're just like, okay, so it was, you know, it was sale
Speaker:Speaker: at the store.
Speaker:Speaker: Fine.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay.
Speaker:Speaker: And then we get Jamie Lee Curtis.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Olga from Sweden.
Speaker:Speaker: Yes.
Speaker:Speaker: Uh, dressed as an Austrian backpacker but with a Swedish
Speaker:Speaker: accent, because Jamie Lee, God bless her Oscar winning soul,
Speaker:Speaker: could not do an Austrian accent, so they just couldn't really be
Speaker:Speaker: that important for this.
Speaker:Speaker: I cannot believe they completely
Speaker:Speaker: flipped on that character just
Speaker:Speaker: because she couldn't do an
Speaker:Speaker: Austrian accent.
Speaker:Speaker: And who is really gonna know it works for the character?
Speaker:Speaker: Like I believe Ophelia couldn't do an Austrian accent and just
Speaker:Speaker: went with Sweden.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, it's fine, it's fine.
Speaker:Speaker: It worked fine.
Speaker:Speaker: And I mean, by the way, who's gonna notice her accent?
Speaker:Speaker: The way she was dressed?
Speaker:Speaker: Not to blame a woman for how she dresses, but let's just say that
Speaker:Speaker: she looked pretty darn good.
Speaker:Speaker: And she was dressed very
Speaker:Speaker: deliberately to distract Mr.
Speaker:Speaker: Beaks.
Speaker:Speaker: Correct, yes.
Speaker:Speaker: So she was like, putting her boobs in his face and saying,
Speaker:Speaker: hey, can you help me with my backpack or whatever?
Speaker:Speaker: Nutsack my nutsack.
Speaker:Speaker: Right.
Speaker:Speaker: She had a very specific role in
Speaker:Speaker: this shell game that they were
Speaker:Speaker: playing with the briefcase and
Speaker:Speaker: her roles, that she was the
Speaker:Speaker: distraction.
Speaker:Speaker: And she's the least offensive of all of them, I think.
Speaker:Speaker: I think Eddie Murphy gets away with it because, I mean, at
Speaker:Speaker: least he's not in blackface.
Speaker:Speaker: That would be really bad.
Speaker:Speaker: I mean, if the movie went there,
Speaker:Speaker: that would be pretty terrible,
Speaker:Speaker: right?
Speaker:Speaker: That leads us to our final component.
Speaker:Speaker: Lionel.
Speaker:Speaker: Lionel.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay, I'll intro Lionel for you.
Speaker:Speaker: I'll do it for you.
Speaker:Speaker: Thank you.
Speaker:Speaker: Lionel.
Speaker:Speaker: Because I am not.
Speaker:Speaker: Lionel is played by Dan Aykroyd and he is a Jamaican.
Speaker:Speaker: It was a Jamaican student or something.
Speaker:Speaker: Jamaican student.
Speaker:Speaker: He has dreadlocks.
Speaker:Speaker: He has like the Rastafarian hat on and he comes in in blackface.
Speaker:Speaker: And just being totally stereotypical Jamaican like
Speaker:Speaker: Rastafarian, it's just it's like, I think I blacked out.
Speaker:Speaker: Pun intended, I guess when I saw it, because it's so bad.
Speaker:Speaker: It's just like it's shocking.
Speaker:Speaker: I forgot about this.
Speaker:Speaker: I totally forgot about this one part when I was watching it.
Speaker:Speaker: Part of the reason why I wanted to do this movie, and why it was
Speaker:Speaker: suggested, is because whenever I watch reactors and I watch a lot
Speaker:Speaker: of people reacting, especially like Gen Z reacting to movies
Speaker:Speaker: from the eighties, I love it whenever they watch this movie.
Speaker:Speaker: Whenever Lionel opens that door and comes through to the scene,
Speaker:Speaker: there is an there's a pause and people gasp and they almost
Speaker:Speaker: always pause the movie.
Speaker:Speaker: and then there's just silence because no one can really take
Speaker:Speaker: what in what is going on because no one has seen it.
Speaker:Speaker: Right.
Speaker:Speaker: Right.
Speaker:Speaker: No. I mean, and it's like people don't do this anymore.
Speaker:Speaker: They don't do it anymore.
Speaker:Speaker: It's like it is completely.
Speaker:Speaker: And thank God it's not done anymore.
Speaker:Speaker: Like, for very good reason.
Speaker:Speaker: People don't do this.
Speaker:Speaker: Except for once again, like
Speaker:Speaker: Robert Downey Jr and Tropic
Speaker:Speaker: Thunder and.
Speaker:Speaker: Right.
Speaker:Speaker: And they've seen Tropic Thunder.
Speaker:Speaker: And even then, they don't realize what blackface is.
Speaker:Speaker: They think that's maybe it.
Speaker:Speaker: And because that's not it.
Speaker:Speaker: And that's done to caricature an
Speaker:Speaker: actor with like a method actor,
Speaker:Speaker: like a method actor and not
Speaker:Speaker: really what, that this is what
Speaker:Speaker: that is.
Speaker:Speaker: Right, right.
Speaker:Speaker: No, this is like the worst example of it.
Speaker:Speaker: I mean, okay, Soul Man beats it
Speaker:Speaker: because the entire movie is in
Speaker:Speaker: blackface.
Speaker:Speaker: We're not going to talk about it.
Speaker:Speaker: I saw Aaron's face just drop.
Speaker:Speaker: So we're not going to mention Soul Man right now.
Speaker:Speaker: My soul left my body just momentarily.
Speaker:Speaker: No, even talking about Dan
Speaker:Speaker: Aykroyd in blackface is too much
Speaker:Speaker: for her.
Speaker:Speaker: I have to be our strength for her again.
Speaker:Speaker: When the ball will be back in my court.
Speaker:Speaker: Whenever we talk about Yentl.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh. That's true.
Speaker:Speaker: And then I'm going to be like, you take this one, girl.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, I don't want to do it.
Speaker:Speaker: Um, for the eighties, it was.
Speaker:Speaker: It was what the eighties did.
Speaker:Speaker: It's just what they did.
Speaker:Speaker: They just fucking didn't give a shit.
Speaker:Speaker: They just, like, put people in blackface.
Speaker:Speaker: They were misogynistic.
Speaker:Speaker: They made fun of people from other countries, and they had a
Speaker:Speaker: blast doing it.
Speaker:Speaker: That's just the way that it was.
Speaker:Speaker: It's not as funny now, but, you know, it was of the time and the
Speaker:Speaker: whole thing is so slapstick, and the whole thing is so ridiculous
Speaker:Speaker: that you can almost say, you know, that that's part of the
Speaker:Speaker: ridiculousness of it, that it's like, so over the top.
Speaker:Speaker: I mean, once again, I part of my job is to search for the good,
Speaker:Speaker: which is what I am very clumsily attempting to doing right now.
Speaker:Speaker: But but it's not good.
Speaker:Speaker: But just in the scene.
Speaker:Speaker: But yeah, I mean it's this entire scene is almost like just
Speaker:Speaker: a standalone SNL sketch.
Speaker:Speaker: You know, like the whole the whole movie is kind of like
Speaker:Speaker: it's, you know, a little bit over the top kind of slapstick,
Speaker:Speaker: but this is like way over the top of the costumes and the
Speaker:Speaker: caricatures and all that stuff.
Speaker:Speaker: And like the shell game, as you called it, with the briefcase.
Speaker:Speaker: So it definitely does stand out for that.
Speaker:Speaker: But, uh, yeah, that was bad.
Speaker:Speaker: We're not like, Dan Aykroyd doesn't get to do that anymore.
Speaker:Speaker: I wonder what he thinks about that.
Speaker:Speaker: Has he ever commented on that?
Speaker:Speaker: I'm sure he has.
Speaker:Speaker: I haven't been able to find anything online, but I'm sure
Speaker:Speaker: it's out there.
Speaker:Speaker: So find it.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, we'll find it.
Speaker:Speaker: We'll find it.
Speaker:Speaker: We're emotionally exhausted from talking about this one scene, so
Speaker:Speaker: I do want to say that I'm sure Dan Aykroyd is a lovely, lovely,
Speaker:Speaker: lovely human being.
Speaker:Speaker: He sang on the way of the world album.
Speaker:Speaker: Of course he's lovely.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, he makes like, like skull
Speaker:Speaker: vodka and he's like, super into
Speaker:Speaker: aliens.
Speaker:Speaker: He seems really nice.
Speaker:Speaker: He seems like a really nice human being.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: I mean, I'm sure that he wrote Ghostbusters, like.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: He's so good.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: He's good.
Speaker:Speaker: Good.
Speaker:Speaker: I feel like he is.
Speaker:Speaker: Ghostbusters.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, that's his character from, like.
Speaker:Speaker: He's that guy.
Speaker:Speaker: He's just Ray.
Speaker:Speaker: He's just Ray.
Speaker:Speaker: He's just Ray.
Speaker:Speaker: And he happens to make vodka.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: I'm into it.
Speaker:Speaker: Good for him.
Speaker:Speaker: Good for Ray.
Speaker:Speaker: Seems like he's doing great.
Speaker:Speaker: I'm a fan.
Speaker:Speaker: Well, we'll forgive him.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, it was a different time.
Speaker:Speaker: Different time?
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: And I don't think he wrote this, so I think you're fine.
Speaker:Speaker: Well, we'll just throw this in Landis's direction.
Speaker:Speaker: Well, he's already blamed for some much bigger things.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: This is the least of Landis's.
Speaker:Speaker: Really?
Speaker:Speaker: Several months before this, I believe.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Do you want to.
Speaker:Speaker: Do you want to explain what happened?
Speaker:Speaker: For the people that don't know.
Speaker:Speaker: Several months before this, Mr.
Speaker:Speaker: Landis was involved in a
Speaker:Speaker: horrific accident on set during
Speaker:Speaker: the making of the Twilight Zone
Speaker:Speaker: movie, in which his segment went
Speaker:Speaker: horribly awry.
Speaker:Speaker: And the star of his segment, along with two child actors.
Speaker:Speaker: So Vic Morrow and two child actors were horrifically killed
Speaker:Speaker: and he then had to go to trial.
Speaker:Speaker: Mhm.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Threatened to end his career.
Speaker:Speaker: But I don't believe it.
Speaker:Speaker: Did I think that like he still got coming to America and some
Speaker:Speaker: other stuff too.
Speaker:Speaker: Right.
Speaker:Speaker: Um in spite of it, it was I believe.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: The trial ended up.
Speaker:Speaker: He was found not guilty.
Speaker:Speaker: I believe he there were fines and such that he had to pay.
Speaker:Speaker: Because I think that her safety issues.
Speaker:Speaker: Right.
Speaker:Speaker: Like there were safety issues that were overlooked.
Speaker:Speaker: I think if I'm recalling
Speaker:Speaker: correctly, it's a longer
Speaker:Speaker: discussion.
Speaker:Speaker: There's a lot.
Speaker:Speaker: There was a lot going on there.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay.
Speaker:Speaker: And to tell you the truth, I'm not so well versed in exactly
Speaker:Speaker: what happened on that set to talk about it, but.
Speaker:Speaker: Yes, but there were multitude of issues.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay, fair.
Speaker:Speaker: All right.
Speaker:Speaker: We can move on.
Speaker:Speaker: All right.
Speaker:Speaker: Move on.
Speaker:Speaker: Um, okay, so the next crime, I mean, this is we're about to get
Speaker:Speaker: into kind of like.
Speaker:Speaker: Like we're moving into misdemeanor territory because I
Speaker:Speaker: think that those are, those are like the big ones.
Speaker:Speaker: Am I missing any big, big ones?
Speaker:Speaker: Well, I mean, these are just
Speaker:Speaker: like, you know, crimes against
Speaker:Speaker: the audience.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, crimes against the audience.
Speaker:Speaker: Crimes against our conscience.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: You know, there's other crimes like within the movie, but
Speaker:Speaker: there's also many crimes that are not actual crimes that I
Speaker:Speaker: feel are criminal.
Speaker:Speaker: Still like.
Speaker:Speaker: And we can get to the misdemeanors.
Speaker:Speaker: I don't want to.
Speaker:Speaker: I want to know what those are.
Speaker:Speaker: Misdemeanors.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay.
Speaker:Speaker: The little ones.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay.
Speaker:Speaker: Use of the word mumsy.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Like I felt my stomach sink when I heard, like the way that she
Speaker:Speaker: says it too is like, mumsy.
Speaker:Speaker: It's, uh, gross.
Speaker:Speaker: I will say this, that everybody that that isn't Lewis and that
Speaker:Speaker: isn't Billy Ray is a stereotype.
Speaker:Speaker: So all of the white people are super white, like the whitest.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: That you've ever seen on film.
Speaker:Speaker: They are the yuppies at Jello
Speaker:Speaker: Biafra have warned us about for
Speaker:Speaker: years.
Speaker:Speaker: They are straight out of an L.L. bean catalog.
Speaker:Speaker: They are singing in barbershop quartets.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, we'll get to that.
Speaker:Speaker: They are.
Speaker:Speaker: They are wearing horrific fashions.
Speaker:Speaker: They are terrible treating their
Speaker:Speaker: servants in the worst possible
Speaker:Speaker: way.
Speaker:Speaker: They're just awful.
Speaker:Speaker: And then everybody that Billy
Speaker:Speaker: Ray hangs out with, they're also
Speaker:Speaker: stereotypes.
Speaker:Speaker: They're they're kind of depicted as trash because they don't have
Speaker:Speaker: any respect for his household.
Speaker:Speaker: They don't have any respect for him.
Speaker:Speaker: And they party topless.
Speaker:Speaker: They wreck the place.
Speaker:Speaker: They wreck the place.
Speaker:Speaker: They put their coals out on his rug.
Speaker:Speaker: His very expensive rug.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Like, not cool at all.
Speaker:Speaker: And he kicks them all out.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Because he's learned the.
Speaker:Speaker: This is when he starts to turn,
Speaker:Speaker: when he starts to be a
Speaker:Speaker: respectable human being, I guess
Speaker:Speaker: according to the movie
Speaker:Speaker: standards.
Speaker:Speaker: But yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: So you just listed a whole bunch of misdemeanors, actually,
Speaker:Speaker: mumsy, the a cappella song at the country club, that.
Speaker:Speaker: That's pretty bad.
Speaker:Speaker: It's.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: And you brought this up earlier before we started recording.
Speaker:Speaker: It's not the song or who sings it.
Speaker:Speaker: It's the lyrics.
Speaker:Speaker: If you listen to them, if you really listen to them, it's
Speaker:Speaker: basically these four.
Speaker:Speaker: Was it four guys at the country
Speaker:Speaker: club singing about the sexual
Speaker:Speaker: personalities, I guess, of each
Speaker:Speaker: one of the women that are at the
Speaker:Speaker: country club.
Speaker:Speaker: It's where each of them had had sexual relations with each one
Speaker:Speaker: of the girls and then whatever she was doing.
Speaker:Speaker: But if you do it as an a
Speaker:Speaker: cappella song, it actually
Speaker:Speaker: sounds sweet.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, cool.
Speaker:Speaker: Let's let's try that out.
Speaker:Speaker: Valentine's day is coming up.
Speaker:Speaker: Let's give that a try.
Speaker:Speaker: We've got, like, a couple weeks.
Speaker:Speaker: Let's throw a song together and go sing it out.
Speaker:Speaker: Why not?
Speaker:Speaker: Like, it's all in the packaging.
Speaker:Speaker: Erin, you don't understand.
Speaker:Speaker: My husband will divorce me.
Speaker:Speaker: Do you know how quickly I will be single?
Speaker:Speaker: Oh my God.
Speaker:Speaker: Let's test it out.
Speaker:Speaker: Um, okay, so the a cappella song is terrible, and the guy singing
Speaker:Speaker: it are just, like, giving such small d energy.
Speaker:Speaker: It's, like, not even funny.
Speaker:Speaker: Um, also, those guys, like, I
Speaker:Speaker: don't know, I think they're all
Speaker:Speaker: supposed to be somewhat recent
Speaker:Speaker: college graduates.
Speaker:Speaker: And those guys are like range in ages between forty eight and
Speaker:Speaker: like sixty two.
Speaker:Speaker: But that's how they looked back then.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh my God.
Speaker:Speaker: They just aged differently.
Speaker:Speaker: They just aged differently.
Speaker:Speaker: Like it's just like Jamie Lee Curtis.
Speaker:Speaker: I mean, she doesn't look old, but she looks very mature, you
Speaker:Speaker: know what I mean?
Speaker:Speaker: She definitely looks like mature.
Speaker:Speaker: Like she's hot.
Speaker:Speaker: She's hot, smokin hot.
Speaker:Speaker: So when she takes off her shirt,
Speaker:Speaker: even I'm like, ooh, girl, look
Speaker:Speaker: at you.
Speaker:Speaker: You look great.
Speaker:Speaker: You look fabulous.
Speaker:Speaker: Like, she looks awesome.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, like I would kill for that body.
Speaker:Speaker: So good.
Speaker:Speaker: Now, I mean, I get it.
Speaker:Speaker: I understand why they made her take her shirt off.
Speaker:Speaker: She offered.
Speaker:Speaker: She did?
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, because she wanted to
Speaker:Speaker: break out of being a scream
Speaker:Speaker: queen.
Speaker:Speaker: And she wanted to get into comedic roles, and they didn't
Speaker:Speaker: have a lot of faith in her.
Speaker:Speaker: So her willingness to take her shirt off is really what sold
Speaker:Speaker: her to the producers.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: I mean, I can see how it sold, like, good for her.
Speaker:Speaker: Once again, it was a different time.
Speaker:Speaker: Wait, what other misdemeanors are there?
Speaker:Speaker: Those are.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, the bows in the hair.
Speaker:Speaker: The grown women with bows in their hair.
Speaker:Speaker: How all the yuppie women are dressed.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, they're dressed like JonBenet.
Speaker:Speaker: Like they look terrible.
Speaker:Speaker: Like they look like grown up JonBenet Ramsey.
Speaker:Speaker: And that's terrible.
Speaker:Speaker: I mean, rest in peace.
Speaker:Speaker: That's so sad.
Speaker:Speaker: But that's what she looks like.
Speaker:Speaker: Like little girl pageant queens.
Speaker:Speaker: But as grown women.
Speaker:Speaker: And it's really, really, really bizarre.
Speaker:Speaker: Penelope's white dress that she wears before she has sex with
Speaker:Speaker: Louis is literally, what, like a four year old would wear to,
Speaker:Speaker: like, a church ceremony.
Speaker:Speaker: It's so disturbing.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, well, when they when they start to, like, get it on, like
Speaker:Speaker: in that, like, what is it like the den or something?
Speaker:Speaker: And she's, like, in her bra and underwear and the bow.
Speaker:Speaker: I was just like, oh, this.
Speaker:Speaker: There's so many elements of wrong here.
Speaker:Speaker: There's so many elements wrong.
Speaker:Speaker: It sounds it looks like a little girl is about to do something
Speaker:Speaker: she should not be doing.
Speaker:Speaker: And it's just the fashion that they put these women in.
Speaker:Speaker: The yuppie, the yuppie women, I should say.
Speaker:Speaker: Awful.
Speaker:Speaker: Just terrible.
Speaker:Speaker: And I don't think I've ever seen
Speaker:Speaker: a person actually dressed like
Speaker:Speaker: this?
Speaker:Speaker: Maybe American Psycho had a couple.
Speaker:Speaker: Was that American Psycho?
Speaker:Speaker: I feel like American Psycho.
Speaker:Speaker: They did a really good job of
Speaker:Speaker: trying to make the women look
Speaker:Speaker: sophisticated.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay.
Speaker:Speaker: Because they were always in, like, really chic restaurants,
Speaker:Speaker: and they were in the back of limos, and they were going to
Speaker:Speaker: upscale, like Christmas parties.
Speaker:Speaker: Right.
Speaker:Speaker: So they were there making an effort to make them look very
Speaker:Speaker: like top tier.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay.
Speaker:Speaker: That makes sense, you know.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Um, but still eighties.
Speaker:Speaker: This was, uh.
Speaker:Speaker: This was like role playing.
Speaker:Speaker: Like.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: This was gross.
Speaker:Speaker: It's so gross.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay.
Speaker:Speaker: Those are the three main misdemeanors I have.
Speaker:Speaker: Do you have any?
Speaker:Speaker: I have, like, a list of some of the fun actual crimes.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay.
Speaker:Speaker: Which the big one.
Speaker:Speaker: And this is actually kind of like we fold this into, like,
Speaker:Speaker: more of a fun fact, but it has to do with the ending, which is
Speaker:Speaker: the insider trading, which is how the movie ends, which was
Speaker:Speaker: rolled into a fun fact.
Speaker:Speaker: So basically what they are trying to corner the frozen
Speaker:Speaker: orange juice market.
Speaker:Speaker: A little bit of insider trading
Speaker:Speaker: done by buying the results of
Speaker:Speaker: the market.
Speaker:Speaker: Sure.
Speaker:Speaker: Whatever the weather report.
Speaker:Speaker: The weather report?
Speaker:Speaker: Yes.
Speaker:Speaker: Because of this, Wall Street, as part of the Transparency and
Speaker:Speaker: Accountability Act, established what they now call the Eddie
Speaker:Speaker: Murphy Rule, which is fun.
Speaker:Speaker: It's a direct result of this movie because what the how the
Speaker:Speaker: movie ended, even though what Beeks was doing was a crime.
Speaker:Speaker: What Louis and Billy Ray were doing was not a crime.
Speaker:Speaker: They were very much cornering the market.
Speaker:Speaker: You were allowed to do that.
Speaker:Speaker: That was very legal at the time, although not how they gained
Speaker:Speaker: that information, but the act of actually how they were doing it
Speaker:Speaker: was very legal.
Speaker:Speaker: It was just like using the information that they got
Speaker:Speaker: illegally that was illegal.
Speaker:Speaker: Right.
Speaker:Speaker: So Congress passed the Eddie
Speaker:Speaker: Murphy Rule, which was an act of
Speaker:Speaker: financial reform, banning the
Speaker:Speaker: kind of trading based on
Speaker:Speaker: non-public government
Speaker:Speaker: information depicted in the
Speaker:Speaker: movie.
Speaker:Speaker: So everything that was done at
Speaker:Speaker: the end of the movie is now
Speaker:Speaker: legal, but only as of twenty
Speaker:Speaker: ten.
Speaker:Speaker: Mhm.
Speaker:Speaker: Wow.
Speaker:Speaker: I love that I want a law named after me one day.
Speaker:Speaker: One day a girl can dream.
Speaker:Speaker: It could happen still.
Speaker:Speaker: Thanks.
Speaker:Speaker: Um.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay.
Speaker:Speaker: Any any other ones?
Speaker:Speaker: Anything that we're forgetting, like from the actual film?
Speaker:Speaker: Because the film itself, it's
Speaker:Speaker: like after, like, those major
Speaker:Speaker: beats.
Speaker:Speaker: It's just kind of like an eighties comedy.
Speaker:Speaker: That's just funny.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: I mean, there are little things that you can pick apart with it
Speaker:Speaker: as far as, like, plot issues and things like that.
Speaker:Speaker: Like, like, well, how did he kick him out of his house?
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: How did he.
Speaker:Speaker: You know that you can kind of tear apart and and throw.
Speaker:Speaker: But the truth is, is like, in
Speaker:Speaker: the end, it's a really well done
Speaker:Speaker: comedy.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: And it's very hand wavy.
Speaker:Speaker: And they hand wave the stuff that they should have.
Speaker:Speaker: It's just like, I don't need to
Speaker:Speaker: know that information
Speaker:Speaker: necessarily.
Speaker:Speaker: We just know that, like, the
Speaker:Speaker: that the Dukes are very rich and
Speaker:Speaker: powerful.
Speaker:Speaker: They can probably do a lot.
Speaker:Speaker: Like they probably have a lot of people on the payroll, like both
Speaker:Speaker: within their company and outside of their company, you know.
Speaker:Speaker: And so, you know, I'm glad that they kind of like glossed over
Speaker:Speaker: that they were able to get their hands on angel dust.
Speaker:Speaker: So maybe they were able to get
Speaker:Speaker: their hands on like when the
Speaker:Speaker: lease.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: You know, you know, you never know.
Speaker:Speaker: You never know.
Speaker:Speaker: Um, I don't know how he's able to get his lease.
Speaker:Speaker: I don't know how he was able to get it.
Speaker:Speaker: Like, I don't really understand how Louie's stealing marked
Speaker:Speaker: fifty dollars bills, got him ejected from his club, because
Speaker:Speaker: that seemed like such a low amount of money to steal.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: But I just it just goes towards integrity.
Speaker:Speaker: And I don't belong to this club, so maybe that's something that
Speaker:Speaker: comes up often, I don't know.
Speaker:Speaker: Right.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: But I'm willing to just go with it.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, you have to go with it.
Speaker:Speaker: In a movie like this.
Speaker:Speaker: This is not like inception, right?
Speaker:Speaker: Like you just go along with it.
Speaker:Speaker: We don't need to know the details.
Speaker:Speaker: Like, the point is that these two men traded.
Speaker:Speaker: They traded places.
Speaker:Speaker: Yes.
Speaker:Speaker: And we want to see the hilarity that ensues as a result of that.
Speaker:Speaker: And they did a very, very good job.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: And the lessons that were
Speaker:Speaker: learned and the lessons that
Speaker:Speaker: were learned and the friends we
Speaker:Speaker: made along the way, the friends
Speaker:Speaker: we made along the way, they did
Speaker:Speaker: make friends and the pina
Speaker:Speaker: coladas.
Speaker:Speaker: We sipped on the beach together after we won.
Speaker:Speaker: It's not about whether or not
Speaker:Speaker: they had the rights to that
Speaker:Speaker: lease.
Speaker:Speaker: No it's not.
Speaker:Speaker: It's about do you want to funk?
Speaker:Speaker: It's about do you want to funk?
Speaker:Speaker: Nice.
Speaker:Speaker: Nice way of bringing it all the way back.
Speaker:Speaker: Full circle.
Speaker:Speaker: Thank you very, very much.
Speaker:Speaker: Thank you.
Speaker:Speaker: I'm very proud.
Speaker:Speaker: That's so great.
Speaker:Speaker: Um, okay.
Speaker:Speaker: Next up, do we Chuck or cherish?
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, we're gonna cherish this movie.
Speaker:Speaker: I know, I love this movie so much.
Speaker:Speaker: I love this movie so much.
Speaker:Speaker: This is this is, like, so not up for debate at all.
Speaker:Speaker: And let's face it, we cherish
Speaker:Speaker: this movie because of Eddie
Speaker:Speaker: Murphy.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh. So good.
Speaker:Speaker: Dan aykroyd.
Speaker:Speaker: Dan Aykroyd, Jamie lee Curtis.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Everybody in it.
Speaker:Speaker: Denholm Elliott is great in it.
Speaker:Speaker: You know, the Dukes are great.
Speaker:Speaker: I mean, it's just it's just It's just a classic.
Speaker:Speaker: It's just a classic and it brings me joy.
Speaker:Speaker: It covers three holidays so you can watch it.
Speaker:Speaker: You have three times a year in which you can watch, or you have
Speaker:Speaker: an excuse to watch it.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: So you can watch it.
Speaker:Speaker: It's a Thanksgiving movie.
Speaker:Speaker: It's a Christmas movie, and it's a New Year's movie.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: It's definitely, you know what?
Speaker:Speaker: I associate it the most with Christmas, I think, like, I
Speaker:Speaker: think it is kind of like one of the lost Christmas movies that
Speaker:Speaker: never gets put on the Christmas movie list, but I think it
Speaker:Speaker: deserves to be there.
Speaker:Speaker: I did learn during all my research for this that it is
Speaker:Speaker: considered a major Christmas movie in Italy.
Speaker:Speaker: So it is actually played on prime time in Italy every year.
Speaker:Speaker: That's wild.
Speaker:Speaker: I would never think that it is.
Speaker:Speaker: Trading places would be an Italian hit.
Speaker:Speaker: Over Christmas of all like it's their Christmas story.
Speaker:Speaker: Interesting.
Speaker:Speaker: And the families rejoice around it.
Speaker:Speaker: And they have favorite scenes that they reenact, not conclave.
Speaker:Speaker: Just kidding.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: It's conclave.
Speaker:Speaker: Because I would think that they would rally around that one, if
Speaker:Speaker: I'm being honest.
Speaker:Speaker: It's kind of like how we cherish Die Hard as a Christmas movie?
Speaker:Speaker: Yes.
Speaker:Speaker: But they like, literally since
Speaker:Speaker: it's come out like, like really
Speaker:Speaker: get on board with this and watch
Speaker:Speaker: the unedited version on prime
Speaker:Speaker: time television.
Speaker:Speaker: I love that every year.
Speaker:Speaker: Wait, they can watch it unedited on prime time television?
Speaker:Speaker: It's Italy.
Speaker:Speaker: You can do that.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, same with France.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh my God.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, I need to move.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay.
Speaker:Speaker: All right, well, that's good.
Speaker:Speaker: All right.
Speaker:Speaker: Any bonus battery you want to discuss?
Speaker:Speaker: Uh, yes.
Speaker:Speaker: This film is filled with all sorts of crazy cameos.
Speaker:Speaker: Some of them are really big.
Speaker:Speaker: Some of them are very small.
Speaker:Speaker: So I'm just going to quickly,
Speaker:Speaker: quickly, quickly go through
Speaker:Speaker: them.
Speaker:Speaker: First one is Giancarlo Esposito as the fresh faced thug in jail
Speaker:Speaker: with no lines.
Speaker:Speaker: No lines.
Speaker:Speaker: I think he does have one line where he like defends.
Speaker:Speaker: He defends Billy.
Speaker:Speaker: I don't remember him having
Speaker:Speaker: seconds, but maybe he could be
Speaker:Speaker: right.
Speaker:Speaker: You could be right.
Speaker:Speaker: I'm not remembering.
Speaker:Speaker: If you're not familiar with Mr.
Speaker:Speaker: Esposito's work, he played Gus
Speaker:Speaker: in Breaking Bad and Better Call
Speaker:Speaker: Saul, Moff Gideon in The
Speaker:Speaker: Mandalorian, and Stan Edgar and
Speaker:Speaker: the boys?
Speaker:Speaker: Yes.
Speaker:Speaker: And he is fabulous.
Speaker:Speaker: And we love him.
Speaker:Speaker: Frank Oz, better known as the voice of Yoda, the voice of
Speaker:Speaker: Grover, and the voice of Miss Piggy, makes a brief appearance
Speaker:Speaker: as the police officer who tests and tastes the angel dust when
Speaker:Speaker: Louis is being booked.
Speaker:Speaker: Going back to that question is, did cops actually ever really do
Speaker:Speaker: that or was that a movie thing?
Speaker:Speaker: I haven't the faintest idea.
Speaker:Speaker: I see all the time in movies from like a long time ago where
Speaker:Speaker: they like, kind of like dip their finger in the cocaine to
Speaker:Speaker: see if it's actual cocaine.
Speaker:Speaker: It's like, do you do, like, take
Speaker:Speaker: a cocaine tasting test or
Speaker:Speaker: something?
Speaker:Speaker: Like, how does that work?
Speaker:Speaker: And I don't get the rubbing it on their teeth either, so I
Speaker:Speaker: don't know that one either.
Speaker:Speaker: Um, I guess it's just because maybe we're sheltered and we
Speaker:Speaker: just don't know, like, these things, but they're doing it on
Speaker:Speaker: their gums, most likely.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay.
Speaker:Speaker: Because it absorbs faster that way.
Speaker:Speaker: Don't ask me how I know.
Speaker:Speaker: All right.
Speaker:Speaker: Cool.
Speaker:Speaker: I learned I'm learning things every day.
Speaker:Speaker: And that is the beauty of life.
Speaker:Speaker: Every day on the bus scene with, uh, grumpy Santa eating salmon
Speaker:Speaker: out of his beard.
Speaker:Speaker: One of the disgusted bus patrons is Edie Falco.
Speaker:Speaker: Uh, so she is very young and she is trying to look away.
Speaker:Speaker: Penelope's gal pal Muffy is played by Kelli Curtis.
Speaker:Speaker: Jamie Lee's sister.
Speaker:Speaker: Mhm.
Speaker:Speaker: The pawnbroker that doesn't want to buy Louie's watch because it
Speaker:Speaker: is hot is Bo Diddley.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, nice.
Speaker:Speaker: Jim Belushi is Harvey, the drunk guest that is dressed like a
Speaker:Speaker: gorilla that is later stripped.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Former Senator Al Franken and
Speaker:Speaker: his comedy writing partner and
Speaker:Speaker: best buddy, Tom Davis were the
Speaker:Speaker: baggage handlers.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Originally, it was supposed to
Speaker:Speaker: be, uh, Rick Moranis and Dave
Speaker:Speaker: Thomas as the McKenzie brothers,
Speaker:Speaker: but they couldn't make the
Speaker:Speaker: scheduling work.
Speaker:Speaker: Ah. Well, you know what?
Speaker:Speaker: I'm glad I got to revisit Al Franken for, like, a second.
Speaker:Speaker: Yes.
Speaker:Speaker: I miss him, I miss him, too.
Speaker:Speaker: And we need him now.
Speaker:Speaker: We need him back so bad.
Speaker:Speaker: Arleen Sorkin, who was the
Speaker:Speaker: original inspiration for Harley
Speaker:Speaker: Quinn and soap folks, might
Speaker:Speaker: recognize her from Days of Our
Speaker:Speaker: Lives, she played Calliope was
Speaker:Speaker: the high class blonde that was
Speaker:Speaker: hitting on Billy Ray and finally
Speaker:Speaker: Muppeteers.
Speaker:Speaker: Richard Hunt plays Wilson, the
Speaker:Speaker: Duke brothers trader who was
Speaker:Speaker: demolished on the Stock Exchange
Speaker:Speaker: floor.
Speaker:Speaker: Nice.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, that was such a good rundown of all the cameos.
Speaker:Speaker: Lots of cameos.
Speaker:Speaker: That was really good.
Speaker:Speaker: You know what?
Speaker:Speaker: This movie holds a very special place in my heart.
Speaker:Speaker: And I was.
Speaker:Speaker: I got, like, little joy bursts whenever I saw, like, the cameos
Speaker:Speaker: that I did recognize.
Speaker:Speaker: You recognize way more than I did, actually.
Speaker:Speaker: And despite, uh, some of the problematic parts of the film,
Speaker:Speaker: I'm really glad that I got to rewatch it again.
Speaker:Speaker: I'm really glad that the bad parts didn't bother me that much
Speaker:Speaker: to ruin the whole thing for me.
Speaker:Speaker: And I mean, I was reminded of, like, Eddie Murphy's genius.
Speaker:Speaker: Like, I want to go and revisit,
Speaker:Speaker: like, more Eddie Murphy movies
Speaker:Speaker: from the eighties because he was
Speaker:Speaker: just on fire back then, and he
Speaker:Speaker: was legendary.
Speaker:Speaker: Like, he was like one of the best comic actors.
Speaker:Speaker: I mean, he's one of the best comic actors we've ever had.
Speaker:Speaker: But I don't know, I just I feel
Speaker:Speaker: like he kind of faded away a
Speaker:Speaker: little bit.
Speaker:Speaker: I'm ready for him to come back.
Speaker:Speaker: I'm ready for him to be back in my life.
Speaker:Speaker: I need to revisit some of this stuff.
Speaker:Speaker: I feel like he comes and goes in waves.
Speaker:Speaker: Uh, this was the second movie.
Speaker:Speaker: This was right after forty eight hours.
Speaker:Speaker: And again, I to cherish Eddie Murphy again.
Speaker:Speaker: He comes and goes in waves, like every now and then, like he'll
Speaker:Speaker: be on a downhill slope.
Speaker:Speaker: And then he does Dreamgirls or he does, and then he's jacked
Speaker:Speaker: down, and then he does Dolemite, and then he's like, back down.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Dolemite.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: And like, so he's due to come back.
Speaker:Speaker: We do have a new Shrek movie
Speaker:Speaker: coming out, so maybe that will
Speaker:Speaker: help.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, donkey.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker:Speaker: Can't wait.
Speaker:Speaker: He is a great donkey.
Speaker:Speaker: Uh, he is great in so many things.
Speaker:Speaker: And again, just when he is on, he is a genius.
Speaker:Speaker: Yes he is.
Speaker:Speaker: I mean, definitely get your movie on.
Speaker:Speaker: Get your Eddie Murphy appreciation on.
Speaker:Speaker: If you haven't seen anything
Speaker:Speaker: with him in a while, be reminded
Speaker:Speaker: of what a joyful comedy looks
Speaker:Speaker: like.
Speaker:Speaker: That's something that we don't get a lot of nowadays or like a
Speaker:Speaker: lot of comedies.
Speaker:Speaker: And the eighties was filled with them, and it was also filled
Speaker:Speaker: with a lot of misogyny.
Speaker:Speaker: Racism.
Speaker:Speaker: Yeah, but, you know, you gotta take the good you take.
Speaker:Speaker: You gotta.
Speaker:Speaker: There you have it.
Speaker:Speaker: And there you go.
Speaker:Speaker: Of life.
Speaker:Speaker: The facts of life.
Speaker:Speaker: Sorry.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh my gosh.
Speaker:Speaker: I could keep on singing that song.
Speaker:Speaker: You should not have started.
Speaker:Speaker: You should not have started now.
Speaker:Speaker: I will not be able to shake that theme song out of my head.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, thank you for that.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay, well, any any any parting words for our audience?
Speaker:Speaker: Uh, no, I'm.
Speaker:Speaker: I'm off to, uh, go funk.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, I wanna funk.
Speaker:Speaker: Do you wanna funk?
Speaker:Speaker: I do want to.
Speaker:Speaker: Oh, my God, let's go funk.
Speaker:Speaker: Eric is totally cool with it.
Speaker:Speaker: My boyfriend's cool with it, too.
Speaker:Speaker: It's cool.
Speaker:Speaker: Okay.
Speaker:Speaker: All right.
Speaker:Speaker: Awesome.
Speaker:Speaker: Thanks.
Speaker:Speaker: All right.
Speaker:Speaker: Bye bye.
Speaker:Speaker: Cinematic.
Speaker:Speaker: Problematic.