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In this episode I share a quick story from a podcast listener then take a deep dive into the concept of seasons throughout life, ups and downs, and how to use our brains to better engage in the here and now by being clear about the coming and going of seasons in our lifetime.
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AKG C44-USB Microphone-1: Hey everyone.
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:Welcome back to another podcast.
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:Episode of real conversations
about aging parents.
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:This is your host, Rebecca.
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:I am a little under the weather and I
really wanted to record this episode.
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:So I'm going to get through
it before I lose my voice.
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:, today, we're going to talk about
seasons and not kind of in the
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:lifetime movie type way, but in a
different way that I think about them.
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:And I think maybe helpful.
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:But before I dive into that, I wanted to
share a really touching story that was
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:given to me by a friend and colleague
that's been very supportive of this
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:project and the podcast and the topic.
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:And, the minute I mentioned to her
that I was going to be looking at this.
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:As something to, create content
about and help people and
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:help myself and explore this.
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:She was one of the very
first big supporters of that.
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:So.
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:Unfortunately about a week ago, her
father passed away a rather unexpectedly.
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:And she gave me permission to share this.
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:Eventually she'll be a podcast
guest, but obviously right
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:now, Uh, not such a good time.
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:I apologize in advance.
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:Some of the language in this
episode is going to be colorful.
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:So this is the text message I got briefly.
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:Losing my dad was so fucking hard.
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:I knew he was deteriorating, but we all
believed we had a couple of years left.
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:But the story I want to share
is how on top of everything my
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:father was and both of my parents.
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:I owe them such a debt of gratitude.
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:First in 2016, my parents set
up a trust and named me as
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:oldest child as the co-trustee.
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:It was to protect monies
for grandchildren.
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:And so happened last week when
I was there in San Diego, my
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:parents closed on their property.
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:And so I was able to sign all the
documents because of the trust.
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:And look over everything
with my mom grieving.
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:I am able to speak with the
financial planners and accountants
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:regarding the finances, since
everything was set up in a trust.
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:And the same binder that
held their living trust.
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:Which became era.
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:Revocable at death.
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:My parents had their
durable power of attorneys.
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:Their wills established goals
regarding life support or intubation.
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:My dad who is not Uber organized.
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:Very similar to me.
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:I don't think enough.
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:Kept all of his passwords for his
computer on his desk and had files.
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:For all his insurance.
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:An important belonging, social security
card birth certificate, which comes in
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:handy when filling out district tickets.
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:Trust me.
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:Uh, his CV articles
published about his work.
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:Over his career or all
in a filing cabinet.
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:I was able to contact
everyone in his emails.
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:And also track the move he
had already set up for San
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:Antonio at the end of the month.
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:So side note, just for context.
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:This author of this text had
been working with our parents
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:to relocate here to San Antonio.
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:, where she lives.
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:And since another passion of mine
is designing for aging in place and
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:multi-generational design, we had
already been engaging on sort of how
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:that was going to look and work out.
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:So anyway, I'll go back
to the text message.
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:It was truly impeccable.
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:I am so thankful to him and my mom,
because I honestly see how incredibly
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:helacious this process could be.
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:It's one of the best gifts
they ever gave us kids.
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:Even with all those factors
controlled for there are still a ton.
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:Of administrative bullshit.
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:And on top of all of that, you
need to be here for a grieving
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:parent who is suffering.
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:So that's the end of the text.
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:So, um, my heart goes out to her.
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:I know this is a really rough time
and I'm very, very looking forward to.
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:At some day unpacking, uh, some of
these gifts that she's mentioning.
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:And I wanted to really focus on that,
that I, I know some of those podcasts can
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:sound kind of doom and gloom, but really.
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:What we're talking about is caring
and kindness and how we can be.
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:Caring and kind to our own children,
to the next generation, to the people
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:that we eventually leave behind.
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:And, and part of this is understanding
just what does that look like?
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:And can it mimic.
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:As much as you give in your
life to your own children is as
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:comfortable as you want them to be
as supported as you want them to be.
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:Then, you know, what does that
look like in other contexts?
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:And, and can you do things now
that actually support them?
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:Uh, when in times when you're
not there to support them.
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:So.
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:Anyway, I felt that was
a very touching message.
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:And I know that this is a hard time and
we will definitely circle back to that.
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:But kind of in that same vein.
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:I wanted to talk about.
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:Uh, season's again, not in the lifetime.
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:Movie type seasons, but, but what is it?
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:We kind of use that word a lot of
different contexts, so that what
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:made me think of it as I was at
Starbucks this morning, and they're
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:definitely fully into fall season.
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:And here in San Antonio was
still running 95 to 97 degrees.
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:Um, every single day, so it
sure doesn't feel like a pumpkin
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:spice type of time of year.
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:But for Starbucks, it is.
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:And they had a sign saying this
was our 20th year celebrating
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:pumpkin spice season.
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:And so we've come to, to think of seasons
as defined periods of time, usually that
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:are recurrent, the actual, at a MALDI
or the word season dates back to Latin.
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:And it means to sew or the time of sowing.
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:, not sewing as in fabric, but sewing
as in fields and agriculture.
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:And, that goes back.
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:To the, the rhythm of our agriculture,
that there's a time to plant
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:seeds at time for them to grow.
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:And the time to be harvested.
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:And so when we think of seasons,
Typically there are defined period
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:of time and usually recurrent.
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:And, uh, so you can think of like
the back to school season, the fall
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:season, the holiday season, et cetera.
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:And I really think when we use
the word season, now I'm going
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:to use it a hundred times.
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:It's going to drive me crazy anyway.
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:So when we use that word, what it
signals back to the brain is that
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:there's a beginning in the end.
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:And that creates some
scarcity in the brain.
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:Like I've got to have my pumpkin
spice latte because that's
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:the season that we're in.
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:And there will be a point in which there
is no pumpkin spice latte at Starbucks.
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:And so I need to get it now.
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:So from marketing
perspective, Creating seasons.
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:Are very important to
establishing demand for a product.
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:But I think of it in a broader context
that because our brain is so used to
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:that concept of other ways we can use.
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:The word or the concept to help us.
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:And so I think of it as, as micro seasons.
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:So think about this.
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:When I drive my kids to school in the
morning, My brain definitely wants to
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:zone out, but the season that I'm in.
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:Is that it's me and my two youngest
children, because we don't, uh, we have
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:to take my other daughter's separately.
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:And she, she actually rides the bus.
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:And so.
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:It's me and the two eight
year olds in the backseat.
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:And I'm thinking, you know, what's
unique about this, that doesn't
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:happen any other time of the week.
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:And that's, it's just
me and it's just them.
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:And there's no screen time.
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:There's no arguing, usually in the
morning, there's a lot of arguing in
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:the afternoon, but in the morning,
They're typically pretty calm and excited
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:about whatever's coming up that day.
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:And the sun is rising and that's
always the thing in the morning as we
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:like to talk about that, because we
just have a really good view of the
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:sunrise when we're driving to school.
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:And so that 20 minute drive or so.
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:Is a season within the day.
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:There's very special things that can
happen just in that 20 minute period.
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:There's a beginning, there's an end
and there's even a recurrence to it.
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:Right.
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:But when I asked my brain to
look at any situation I'm in.
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:And say, what season is this?
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:Even in the micro, like I said, these
micro seasons, there's just 20 minutes.
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:Who's present to me.
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:What's important about this?
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:What am I missing?
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:What, what is precious?
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:And this moment.
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:And this is not just like any other
quote, unquote time that what is unique
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:about this situation that I might not
have the rest of this day, the rest
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:of this week, the rest of my life.
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:And I think in.
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:Um, and some concepts, like if you're at a
wedding, it's very obvious to your brain,
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:that this is something to be very present
for and to celebrate into, uh, it's,
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:it's culturally highly acceptable that
this is something that we really get into
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:and we spend a lot of money and time on.
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:But beyond that really what makes up
our day in our lives are these little
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:tiny accumulation of micro seasons.
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:And so you can look at the end of the day
when you go to bed and you can talk about
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:the little seasons throughout your day.
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:And sometimes you have these different,
almost different fruit, different
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:frequencies, so you can be having.
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:A certain season at work and it may
be very different than the season
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:you're having in your personal life.
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:Or very different than the season
you're having with, you know,
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:a friendship or something else.
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:And.
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:I like this idea because what it makes me.
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:When it helps me understand.
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:Is how fleeting things can be in
that really life is this accumulation
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:of these split second moments
over and over and over again.
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:And appreciating this.
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:As all that we have is to be present
in whatever season you're in.
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:That's the that's the
choice that we have, right.
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:Is to, to become present to that moment.
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:In that season.
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:When I think of it in a larger concept,
not just the micro seasons, every
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:20 minutes, but the larger concept.
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:So when I think of this in the context of
have conversations about aging parents, I
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:think one of the things to recognize is.
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:First of all having our parents and that's
already kind of a loaded relationship.
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:And something that changes continuously
throughout your lifetime, enter a season
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:themselves, or they might need more
assistance with, uh, cognitive tasks
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:or they're becoming more forgetful
or they're needing some additional
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:physical support or maybe they are,
or getting a medical diagnosis of.
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:Um, that that needs some additional
attention or that is scary.
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:Something like that.
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:They're entering a phase of life where
these things are increasingly common
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:and not that it happens to everybody.
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:And God knows I've seen
many, many parents.
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:And there are seventies and even eighties.
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:Continuing to take care
of their own children with
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:disabilities or grandchildren.
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:So I'm not trying to be ageist here or be
negative about this, but what's happening.
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:Some of the anx is.
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:That, uh, once you have somebody entering
sort of a given, we always talk about the.
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:At age of life expectancy.
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:So mid seventies and.
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:And on a really entering a season.
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:Where there seemed to be more doctor's
appointments, more uncertainty.
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:About what their future health
might be or mobility or function.
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:And that generating, um, a lot of
anxiety for people that care about
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:them or might feel that there'll be
part of that care team for that person.
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:And if the person that's feeling.
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:Um, concerned about that.
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:As the adult child.
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:Then it also depends on
the season that they're in.
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:And if you can go back to several
of the podcasts and listen to.
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:People that are at the end
of their careers, and helping
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:care for somebody else.
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:And, and that might change
the season that they're in.
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:So everything is going one way.
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:And then, uh, if your parent, um,
breaks a hip or has a stroke, then.
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:Um, depending on your situation
and your season may rapidly change.
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:And, um, and I think that's part of the
anxiety and the frustration that can come.
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:With the uncertainty in
this, in this period.
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:Uh, that there's just an
ever-increasing amount of
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:uncertainty as we age for all of us.
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:At least with regards
to health and function.
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:And that can, can be sort of a constant
backdrop for some of the stressors, but.
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:I also like to think of it in a
positive way, which would be what are.
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:What are the, what is the
season you're in right now?
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:And I think with my parents, at least.
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:They're able to travel with us
and we're still in that season.
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:I don't think we'll be
in that season forever.
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:Um, but we've got a couple of trips
planned with them, uh, in the fall.
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:Now, as you've probably heard,
my parents are divorced, so
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:I have one trip with my mom.
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:And then later a trip with my dad.
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:And then next year, maybe
a trip with all of us.
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:I don't know.
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:But, um, I'm very cognitively
aware that that that is very finite
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:and we are approaching a period.
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:I hope not.
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:Anytime soon.
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:But my own inks and uncertain
give how many more years we'll be
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:able to pick up and fly somewhere.
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:And enjoy that together.
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:That is not unlimited.
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:It's not unlimited for me
either, but this idea that I am
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:constantly aware that the season.
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:I'm in with my parents is that they still
have health and function and mobility.
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:And that there are things that we
can take advantage of right now that
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:we might not be able to recreate.
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:And as a rehab physician, it's
almost like, because I get to stand
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:at that intersection when, when
catastrophic life things happen.
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:I see seasons change very quickly.
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:With no warning.
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:And, and it's like one day at
summer and the next day is winter.
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:And how people have to adjust to that.
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:And unfortunately for a lot of these
events or these kinds of health
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:events, That winter, that set in is
winter and the winter won't change.
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:And that at that function
is severely limited.
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:You know, we can obviously do rehab and
try to improve their quality of life,
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:but there are a lot of patients I see
that won't travel again, that will not
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:get back in an airplane, um, that won't
drive again, those types of things.
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:And again, I'm not trying to be a
Debbie downer, but the idea is maybe
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:that helps me be more present in my
own life because I see it so often.
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:And I see unexpected things happen and
it gives me scarcity in my own life.
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:Like.
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:Oh, my gosh, this is an unlimited.
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:Um, and I don't mean this in a
way to put fear in myself and I
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:don't use that to motivate me.
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:It's that season thing, like
it's pumpkin spice season.
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:So it's traveling with my parents
season and eventually it won't be there.
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:And I think when I have that
presence, That I feel I'm living
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:more authentically in more.
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:In sync with realities and
understanding the periods of time
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:I'm in and even for myself, right.
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:Um, so you think about things you
could do 20, 20 years ago, and maybe
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:that doesn't sound so fun anymore.
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:And.
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:And you're going to
change over time as well.
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:And there's going to be buckets of time.
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:Where it's really important.
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:To take advantage of what you're able
to do at that time, functionally,
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:whether it's traveling or some sort
of activity, maybe it's that pottery
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:class that's only offered once a year.
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:And it finally lines
up with your schedule.
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:And so I, when we talk about being mindful
and being present to what we have, I
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:think part of that is just getting sober
and clear about the season that we're in.
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:And what's possible.
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:And I like asking the brain that question,
because going through that process, um,
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:helps you not dwell on the parts of life
that aren't going so well at the moment.
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:Like what's possible in this moment.
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:And just asking that question.
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:What's unique about this moment, even
if, if there's pain in that moment.
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:Who are you with?
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:Who are the helpers, who are the
people that are helping you process or
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:you're processing with somebody else?
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:And what's really, really
special about that moment.
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:And I really, I think a lot of mindset
is asking the brain better questions
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:because the brain is highly conditioned
to answer the same questions.
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:Very confidently over and over again.
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:And giving it questions
it hasn't had before.
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:I think.
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:It's an important task that can help free
us from, from some of the brain drama.
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:AKG C44-USB Microphone-2: The other
thing about seasons is that they end
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:and sometimes that's also good for
the brain and you can see yourself get
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:through a lot of different things in
life by knowing this is just a season.
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:So whether it's.
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:Um, a college class and, you know,
eventually there's going to be a
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:final and you'll be done with it.
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:Or maybe it's your kid in diapers.
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:And, you know, eventually they
won't be in diapers, although it
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:doesn't feel like that at the moment.
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:AKG C44-USB Microphone-3: And if you
listen closely to some of the earlier
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:podcasts and those conversations,
you'll hear this over and over again.
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:Which is the idea of people
that are in the thick of it.
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:Thinking to themselves that
this will eventually end.
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:And of course we don't know how, or
what way or what's going to change,
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:or maybe it's somebody eventually
moves to an assisted living or.
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:Um, maybe they pass away
whatever that looks like.
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:The brain also can engage differently
in a task when it knows, especially
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:if it's an uncomfortable task that
there's going to be an end point
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:to it at some, at some level.
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:And so I hope this is another way
to think about things or maybe.
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:Can pique your interest just in today and
asking yourself at the end of the day,
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:what, what season are you in, in life?
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:What are season, are you in with your
career or with your family or with
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:your hobbies or with your health?
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:Um, health is another one I think goes
through a lot of different seasons.
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:And you can have temporary seasons.
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:Like you just have a cold.
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:Or you might have longterm seasons,
maybe you have autoimmune disorder or
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:something that you're dealing with.
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:And giving some structure
and context to the brain.
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:Uh, it can really help it
conceptualize and engage and really
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:difficult topics or concepts.
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:And so I would challenge you, uh, at
the end of today to think about that.
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:What season are you in right now?
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:What's really special about this season.
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:What is something you can take advantage
of today, or even in this moment
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:that you can't take advantage of?
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:Forever.
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:And spoiler alert.
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:Everything.
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:Everything is temporary, right.
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:And so it would be very difficult
not to find one thing in your life
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:right now that isn't, this is the
best time to engage, whether that's
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:a phone call or a text message.
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:And.
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:And I'm saying this, not from the
throne or doing this perfectly.
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:I'm probably harder on myself
about this than anything, which
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:is I'm not taking advantage of
opportunities when they're there.
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:And I do feel very guilty for that quiet
time in the car ride with my kids and.
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:I'm thinking I should be extracting you.
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:Acknowledge and, stories from them.
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:And then finally my daughter this
morning, she's like, mom, I just
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:like a quiet ride from time to time.
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:So.
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:Maybe I'll stop trying to philosophize
while we're driving down the highway.
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:But, but anyway, so I would challenge
you to think about this with regard
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:to yourself or an aging parent.
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:If that's what's in your life right now.
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:And knowing that this is the season you
have, and that's really all we have.
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:We can project forward and
worry about something or look
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:back and regret something.
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:But.
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:But truly the, the season you have is
that split second, right in front of you.
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:And by the end of the day, it's
just an accumulation of other split
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:seconds over and over and over again.
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:. As far as taking advantage.
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:Um, when there's better
health, it's like good weather.
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:And so when I see people towards
the end of their life, I will tell
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:you they don't want more money.
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:That you don't necessarily want more
time, but they want their health back.
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:And so if you have a health about you,
whatever that looks like, if you're
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:able to walk or you're able to go
outside those types of things, I just.
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:I know there are so many people I see
day in and day out that, that they
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:don't have that opportunity anymore.
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:And I'm not trying to
make you feel guilty.
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:I promise.
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:I'm just talking about this from the
idea of health is also a season and.
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:And it's something that when
you're in good health and you have.
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:Function and mobility.
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:Those are the times to be taking
advantage of things that require a
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:function and mobility such as walking,
going to a park, traveling those
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:types of things, playing with kids or
grandkids, whatever that looks like.
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:And again, I'm not speaking from
the throne of doing this perfectly.
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:Probably batting under 500 with this
very easily, but, but I always started
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:to find ways to harness the power of
my brain and help it to improve my
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:life, to improve my experience of life.
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:And really the only way I can
do that is leaning into every
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:season that I have good or bad.
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:And knowing that it's all temporary.
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:On the positive side.
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:It's temporary.
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:So I better take advantage
on the negative side.
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:It's temporary so I can get through it.
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:And, and using that as a way to coach
myself and to reframe things that feel
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:impossible or things that feel difficult.
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:Um, as this is just a
season I'm in right now.
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:So anyway, I would love if you
have any stories, I've been
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:getting a lot of positive feedback
from people that are having more
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:conversations or sparking more.
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:Uh, discussions and their
various family and groups, you
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:could always send me an email.
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:I'd love to hear from you.
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:If you have a story you'd like to share.
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:Anything you feel like a lesson
learned, please do reach out at.
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:I'd love to hear from you.
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:Thank you so much for
your attention today.
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:I know this was a, a short
podcast, but my voice is.
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:Not going to last much longer.
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:So anyway, thank you
so much for listening.
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:Until next time.
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:Until next season when
I speak with you again.
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:Have a wonderful day.