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Aliens Among Us: The Shocking Truth Revealed
Episode 3618th November 2024 • Windy City Joe's • Untied Entertainment
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David Grusch, a member of the United States Air Force and intelligence community, has recently testified about the recovery of a UFO crash craft that contained non-human biologics. This revelation has reignited discussions around the existence of extraterrestrial life and government transparency regarding UFOs, especially following a week of congressional hearings on the subject. The conversation delves into the history of UFO sightings, starting from the cultural phenomenon in the 1940s and 1950s, the establishment of Area 51 in 1951, and the funding of Project Blue Book in 1952, which ultimately found no conclusive evidence before its termination in 1969. Additionally, the episode explores a mysterious incident from 1982 in Siberia involving strange humanoid creatures encountered by Russian divers in Lake Baikal, the world's deepest freshwater lake. With insights from sources like Ancient Aliens and the Joe Rogan Experience, this episode invites listeners to question what we know about UFOs and the implications of these startling discoveries.

The podcast delves into the intersection of government secrecy and extraterrestrial phenomena, focusing on the recent U.S. Congressional Hearing regarding UFOs and the implications of testimonies from credible sources like David Grusch. Grusch, a former USAF member and intelligence officer, provides chilling accounts of non-human biologics linked to UFO crash retrievals, sparking debates about the truth behind extraterrestrial encounters. Listeners are taken on a journey through the historical context of UFO sightings, starting from the cultural phenomenon of the 1940s and 1950s, the establishment of Area 51 in 1951, and the initiation of Project Blue Book in 1952, which attempted to investigate these mysterious sightings. The episode emphasizes the significance of governmental acknowledgment of UFOs, especially during a time when the public's attention is elsewhere, like during the COVID-19 pandemic, highlighting the ongoing struggle for transparency in the face of overwhelming evidence that suggests we might not be alone in the universe.

A key theme throughout the episode is the evolving narrative surrounding UFOs, UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena), and AAVs (Anomalous Aerospace Vehicles), with definitions clarified and discussions about the implications of these terms on societal perceptions of alien life. The hosts juxtapose the sensationalism often found in shows like Ancient Aliens with the gravity of official testimonies and documented evidence. Their exploration leads to a deeper consideration of humanity's place in the cosmos and the potential ramifications of official disclosures on individual beliefs about extraterrestrial life. The episode wraps up with a humorous yet contemplative tone, as the hosts engage in banter about personal UFO sightings and the absurdities of governmental secrecy, ultimately inviting listeners to keep an open mind about the possibilities of alien existence.

In a thought-provoking discussion, the episode investigates the historical context of UFO phenomena, tracing its roots back to the cultural fascination that emerged in the mid-20th century. The establishment of Area 51 and Project Blue Book serves as a backdrop for understanding the U.S. government's attempts to manage public perception of UFOs. With the recent congressional testimonies from individuals like David Grusch, who assert that the government has recovered non-human craft and biologics, the podcast raises essential questions about the ethical implications of such knowledge. The conversation takes a nuanced turn as the hosts reflect on the societal impact of these revelations, particularly in light of the collective human experience during crises like the COVID-19 pandemic, where such disclosures could be overshadowed by more pressing concerns.


Listeners are encouraged to ponder the significance of these alien encounters, especially the chilling story of Russian divers encountering humanoid creatures in Lake Baikal in 1982. This story exemplifies the mysteries that lie beneath the surface of our understanding of the universe. The episode culminates in a blend of humor and existential contemplation, urging audiences not only to engage with the topic of UFOs but to consider the broader implications of life beyond Earth. Through captivating storytelling and a mix of serious inquiry and light-hearted discussion, the hosts create an engaging atmosphere that invites listeners to explore the unknown alongside them.

Takeaways:

  • The government has acknowledged the existence of unidentified aerial phenomena and their investigations.
  • David Grusch's testimony highlighted recovery of UFO craft with non-human biologics involved.
  • Project Blue Book was a significant government effort to study UFO sightings until 1969.
  • Siberia's Lake Baikal incident involved divers encountering strange humanoid creatures underwater in 1982.
  • The cultural phenomenon of UFOs began in the 1940s and 1950s with flying saucer sightings.
  • The congressional hearings revealed that the government has secret retrieval programs for UFOs.

Companies mentioned in this episode:

  • JBL
  • Sony
  • General Dynamics

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Michael:

David Grush.

Michael:

Gersh.

Jackson:

Nailed it.

Michael:

Yeah, I think it's David Grush.

Michael:

He is of the United States Air Force and as well as a member of the United States intelligence community and he has testified that he was.

Michael:

A video of him testifying to recovering a UFA crash craft that had non human biologics that had been recovered with it.

Michael:

It's kind of scary.

Michael:

Hey buddy, how you doing?

Michael:

I got new.

Michael:

I got new headphones today.

Jackson:

Oh, what kind are they?

Jackson:

They look comfy.

Michael:

They're JBLs.

Jackson:

Nice.

Michael:

So after our like multi record session the other day, I was like my ears were kind of hurting.

Jackson:

What are you doing?

Jackson:

We don't do those sessions.

Jackson:

We just kind of.

Jackson:

We record like every day like every other podcaster.

Michael:

Okay, cool.

Michael:

Yeah, we're just.

Michael:

This is our, this is what we do every day.

Michael:

We.

Jackson:

We definitely don't change outfits between recordings either.

Michael:

No, we would never do that.

Michael:

That would be weird.

Michael:

That would be weird, Michael.

Michael:

Yeah, but I got the, I got the JBLs because I was like after you record, like, you know, I wear my headphones like when I'm doing other things at my computer.

Michael:

Like all my music runs through these.

Michael:

You know what I mean?

Michael:

Like I constantly have these on.

Michael:

So I just went and I had these as my just going to the gym ones and I was like, oh, they have a, like a plug in port.

Michael:

I just never thought to use it.

Michael:

So now I'm using these for the podcast.

Jackson:

Is that all you need?

Jackson:

Wait a minute.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

Hello test.

Jackson:

Oh my God, these are so comfy.

Michael:

Yeah.

Jackson:

Oh, and they look so much better.

Michael:

Yeah, they do.

Jackson:

But these were in all time.

Michael:

I will say the Sony ones are like those have been those.

Michael:

Geez, we've had those since the untied days.

Jackson:

Like 17 head.

Michael:

Yeah, yeah, we really splurged on those back then.

Michael:

The.

Michael:

But the Sonys are kind of expensive.

Michael:

They're like the air maxes.

Jackson:

They.

Jackson:

Yeah, I.

Jackson:

After finding.

Jackson:

I promise I found them.

Jackson:

They were left at the pool and it was going to rain and we live in a.

Jackson:

to where you can see the pool:

Jackson:

You know, the rain's coming.

Jackson:

I'll give it a little bit.

Jackson:

Nobody claimed them, nobody grabbed them, took them to the front desk.

Jackson:

They're like, whatever, I don't care.

Jackson:

So I was like, okay, I guess they're mine.

Michael:

Nice.

Michael:

All right, well now we both have new headphones for this episode.

Michael:

Good.

Jackson:

Good job.

Jackson:

We did good.

Michael:

Look at that.

Michael:

Look at.

Michael:

Brought that full circle too.

Jackson:

Welcome back to the Michael and Jackson show, where I'm Michael and he's Jackson.

Jackson:

Today we are going to be talking about aliens.

Jackson:

Aliens.

Jackson:

Jackson.

Jackson:

Do you know that aliens are real now?

Michael:

I do.

Michael:

Well, okay, I want to add something before.

Michael:

Preface everything with the fact that there have been, like, shows about the existence of aliens for years and years and years on the History Channel and discuss.

Michael:

I know like, there's a bunch on discovery plus YouTube.

Michael:

People on YouTube.

Michael:

The biggest thing though was that during COVID and a bunch of other like there was.

Michael:

They had like released stuff about Area 51 or about, you know, experiments with aliens or maybe.

Michael:

Yes.

Michael:

Like just confirming UFOs are real.

Michael:

And I think that was what this congressional hearing yesterday was about.

Michael:

Because that was yesterday, right?

Jackson:

Yes.

Jackson:

As the recording of this episode.

Jackson:

It was yesterday.

Jackson:

May have gone on into today.

Jackson:

So it was this week.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

And so we had.

Michael:

But my.

Michael:

My favorite thing about this whole.

Michael:

The government coming clean about it was that they said, yeah, God, yeah, aliens are real.

Michael:

During COVID And everyone was like, not now.

Michael:

Like, you know what I mean?

Michael:

Like, they just.

Jackson:

We did just like, I don't.

Michael:

They're like, we can't.

Michael:

They're like, we just want a stimulus check.

Jackson:

Yeah.

Jackson:

The Michael Jordan documentary is out or whatever.

Michael:

Yeah, yeah.

Michael:

The last dance.

Michael:

I'm in the middle of the last dance and finishing Ozarks.

Michael:

Can you chill?

Jackson:

Yeah.

Jackson:

You're telling me about freaking aliens.

Jackson:

Michael Jordan's ripping cigars after games.

Jackson:

Like, give me a break.

Jackson:

Yeah.

Michael:

So now the US Congress had a hearing about UFOs, which actually.

Michael:

So I wrote down some notes that might be helpful for this episode.

Michael:

Okay, so the definitions that we will be discussing in this episode of Windy City Joe's is UFO, unidentified flying objects, UAPs, which are unidentified anomalous phenomena, and AAVs, which are anomalous aerospace vehicles.

Michael:

They all mean the same thing.

Michael:

That's an.

Michael:

It's a ufo.

Michael:

Like whatever your picture and UFO to be.

Michael:

It would fall under all those categories.

Michael:

Those are just different terms used to describe the same thing.

Michael:

Because our government, if not nothing is thorough on stupid.

Michael:

They're like, they spent so much time.

Michael:

They were like, we need a couple of these bad boys.

Michael:

But here's my thing.

Michael:

So in the:

Michael:

Then UFOs came into.

Michael:

Become a cultural phenomena.

Michael:

Like, that was when they were first cited.

Michael:

Those Are like the first reports.

Michael:

Reports of them.

Michael:

Like people being like, I saw some above my cornfield.

Michael:

And then in:

Jackson:

In:

Michael:

I know, how convenient.

Jackson:

Yeah, no, so.

Michael:

And that's at least when they're saying it was.

Michael:

Yeah, I actually.

Michael:

Okay, I would like it.

Michael:

So there's another thing.

Michael:

So here's some sources that I pulled just so this is where I'm getting my information.

Michael:

You guys can go look it up for yourself.

Michael:

The US congressional hearing.

Michael:

I watched about 40 minutes of the two hour recording of it today.

Michael:

I had it on the background while I was taking notes on other videos.

Michael:

Ancient Aliens, the TV show on the Historic History Channel.

Michael:

Because I love that guy.

Michael:

I can't even think of his name.

Michael:

I have to Google it real quick.

Jackson:

The aliens.

Michael:

Yeah, he's like the stoner.

Michael:

Oh yeah.

Michael:

Giorgios.

Jackson:

Nailed it.

Michael:

I think it is.

Michael:

Yeah, he's a Swiss writer and television presenter.

Michael:

He's exactly who you're thinking he is.

Jackson:

The fingers on that picture here.

Michael:

We'll do this real quick.

Michael:

Right here.

Michael:

This guy.

Jackson:

But go to images.

Jackson:

You know, they got to be there.

Michael:

This is the one.

Jackson:

There he is.

Michael:

There he is.

Michael:

So basically.

Michael:

So that guy.

Michael:

So I really like that guy.

Michael:

I watched.

Michael:

I mean, I just always watch that show, like it a lot.

Michael:

And the crazy thing to me is that they will.

Michael:

They talk about, you know, obviously the aliens in Egypt and how they built the pyramids.

Michael:

Aliens and the giants and these giant people and all the drawings that they found inside the pyramids.

Michael:

Hieroglyphics is what they're called about.

Michael:

Like, there's people with green skin that are depicted in these drawings.

Michael:

There's people with that are giant like giants that they're depicting and you know, normal sized people standing behind them.

Michael:

So obviously it wasn't just a normal, like it was a different species, you know, it wasn't just like, oh, we got a fucking Shaq with us.

Michael:

You know what I mean?

Michael:

It's not just me standing next to Shaq.

Michael:

They're like astronomically taller.

Michael:

And just so we're clear, Shaq is still astronomically taller than me.

Michael:

That's true.

Jackson:

He is big boy.

Jackson:

But okay, they're like, they're here.

Jackson:

They have to.

Jackson:

I'm already convinced.

Jackson:

Or like.

Michael:

No, right.

Jackson:

I'm already convinced, but I think they're like, they're among us.

Jackson:

Like is actually one or he's related to one.

Michael:

I'm getting to that, buddy.

Michael:

I'm getting to it.

Michael:

is in:

Michael:

Well, in March of:

Michael:

Oh, yeah, that was the other thing.

Michael:

I was going through my sources.

Michael:

So the Joe Rogan interview where he interviews the Navy pilot, the former Navy pilot who detailed the UFO encounter.

Michael:

And then Project Blue Book, which is another show on the History Channel, but it's actually a real thing that happened.

Michael:

Project Blue Book.

Michael:

The government's come clean about that, so it's not a conspiracy.

Michael:

March:

Michael:

was established, March of:

Michael:

Their official statement was that no evidence had been found.

Michael:

th of:

Michael:

So now.

Michael:

Yeah, I know.

Michael:

Like classic, classic US Government just constantly.

Michael:

Also, if something happens to one of us after we release this episode, like, totally just.

Michael:

It wasn't.

Michael:

We didn't.

Michael:

We're.

Michael:

Yeah, we're both in good.

Michael:

Mental.

Michael:

Mental standings right now.

Michael:

Just so we're clear to you, you.

Jackson:

Couldn'T even get Zach Brian on the podcast.

Jackson:

The government's not gonna come after you.

Michael:

No, you don't know that.

Michael:

The government comes after crazy people.

Michael:

Crazy.

Michael:

Different types of people.

Michael:

I meant not just crazy people.

Michael:

We aren't crazy people.

Michael:

Not that.

Michael:

I mean, not that I think we're crazy.

Michael:

I don't know.

Michael:

Anyway, you make your decision.

Michael:

So, okay, so then that's all that happened in America.

Michael:

Think about the other countries.

Michael:

So the ancient aliens in Egypt, maybe.

Michael:

I mean, the hieroglyphics are kind of like, okay, why did they have blue skin?

Michael:

You know, why did they.

Michael:

Why were these people, like, green and blue and had.

Michael:

roglyphics jump to Siberia in:

Jackson:

Okay.

Michael:

Nine years before the collapse of the Soviet Union under the waters of lake.

Michael:

And I'm going to butcher this Baikal.

Michael:

Bacal.

Jackson:

Spell it.

Michael:

B A, I, K, A L.

Michael:

Bacal.

Jackson:

I don't know.

Michael:

In:

Michael:

Now, the maximum depth of this lake, it is.

Michael:

It's like the largest lake by volume in the world.

Michael:

So it's a hundred or, no,:

Michael:

It's pretty deep.

Jackson:

Yeah.

Michael:

And then it is also the world's largest freshwater lake by volume and the oldest freshwater lake, estimated to be around 25 million years old.

Jackson:

Holy shit.

Michael:

I know.

Michael:

llapse of the Soviet Union in:

Michael:

But 50 meters underwater, strange humanoid creatures appear.

Michael:

And in an attempt to capture one of them all, the divers are pushed up to the top by an unknown force.

Michael:

Who were these creatures and what can we learn from this?

Michael:

That's kind of crazy.

Jackson:

Where was this from?

Michael:

This was from another YouTube video I found.

Jackson:

Okay.

Michael:

And if you ask Google, it says, no.

Michael:

There's been no evidence found that anywhere underneath the water that the.

Michael:

That alien life form or anything like that would exist.

Jackson:

Well, and, like, what, the 70 of Earth is water?

Jackson:

Or maybe 70 of us were water.

Michael:

I like.

Michael:

It's like, it's a.

Michael:

It's a big percentage.

Michael:

Hey, hold on.

Jackson:

We're.

Jackson:

I think we're, you know, we're kind of the same as the Earth.

Jackson:

It's got to be 70, 30 for both of us.

Michael:

70.8%.

Michael:

You were right.

Michael:

7 or 71% is approximately.

Michael:

The Earth's surface is covered by water, and there's like.

Michael:

It's like 95% is unexplored.

Jackson:

Yeah.

Jackson:

Which is crazy.

Michael:

And so the reason I, like, I thought of that is not my own being.

Michael:

Like, maybe they're in the water.

Michael:

I was like, have you ever seen the movie?

Jackson:

Probably not.

Michael:

No, you haven't.

Michael:

I know we've talked about it.

Michael:

Tomorrow War with the guy, Chris Pratt.

Michael:

So Chris Pratt in the movie is like, they can't figure out where these aliens are coming from.

Michael:

Basically, someone comes from the future to tell them, and it's been out for a few years.

Michael:

So if you're like, spoiler alert.

Michael:

Like, go fuck yourself.

Michael:

Why?

Michael:

You should have watched it.

Michael:

The.

Michael:

So basically, someone comes to Earth in the middle of, like, a soccer game.

Michael:

So all the world.

Michael:

It's like the World cup, right?

Michael:

Someone.

Michael:

This portal opens, these people jump through Terminator style.

Michael:

They look like they've been fighting aliens.

Michael:

You know what I mean?

Michael:

And they go, hey.

Michael:

Goes down in the future.

Michael:

And the only person who can figure it out is Chris Pratt.

Michael:

I mean, they used his character name.

Michael:

They weren't like the actor from Guardians of the Galaxy, Chris Pratt.

Michael:

Like, we saw him in Parks and Rec.

Michael:

He can do it.

Michael:

And it turns out that they were like.

Michael:

We never saw them come to Earth.

Michael:

They didn't invade from the sky.

Michael:

So what had happened was, years before, parts of Russia had froze over, they had crashed and they had crashed in.

Michael:

Or they had crashed in, like, an embankment of snow, right?

Michael:

Which just over years and years and years of snow in parts of the world that are usually covered in snow kept getting pushed down.

Michael:

They were in a block of ice.

Michael:

Well, because of climate change and all of that, it.

Michael:

The ice started to thaw, and when it thawed, they awoke from their sleep chambers and came out of the ice and attack and invaded Earth that way.

Jackson:

So movie.

Michael:

It was really good.

Michael:

And I mean, I don't even know what kind of rating it, but it was just an entertaining movie.

Michael:

It's got action, sci fi, future travel, time travel.

Michael:

It's all fucking awesome.

Jackson:

Rotten Tomatoes probably gave it like 3.7.

Michael:

Yeah, but it's a.

Michael:

I liked it.

Michael:

It was a.

Michael:

So I was sitting there going.

Michael:

I'm like, that's not.

Michael:

That's not that crazy of a thought that before we could.

Michael:

Because think about how young photography is really, if you think about it.

Michael:

It's like in the past.

Michael:

Like, I don't even han when was.

Jackson:

The first 100 years?

Jackson:

Because so I'm thinking about the roaring 20s when, like prohibition cameras.

Michael:

16.

Jackson:

Okay, so I was about 200 years off.

Michael:

Right.

Michael:

But so my point is that, yeah, 806.

Michael:

So:

Michael:

So all the years before that, you had to draw if you wanted to tell someone what you saw.

Michael:

You know what I mean?

Michael:

You had to be like, hey, you're like, it kind of looked like this.

Michael:

Imagine if you just couldn't draw either.

Michael:

You'd be like, it was something like this and just a bunch of stick figures years.

Michael:

And you're like, yeah, this is me looking at that.

Michael:

And.

Jackson:

But also, like, the.

Jackson:

The technological differences too.

Jackson:

So if you saw anything in the sky, like, you probably.

Jackson:

People.

Jackson:

You probably got sent to a mental ward because people are like, you did.

Jackson:

You did not see a floating 1,000%.

Jackson:

You know what I mean?

Jackson:

Like, you're.

Jackson:

You're going into this house, you're going into that hospital type thing.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

If someone was like, hey, you know what I just saw in the sky was a.

Michael:

It was a flying circle that was just hovering.

Michael:

And they were like.

Michael:

And think about it that time too, because they were like, we don't even have planes.

Michael:

You know, like, what is a plane?

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

When was that invented?

Jackson:

I make fire with rock.

Michael:

I mean, the first plane was what, the Wright brothers?

Jackson:

Yeah.

Michael:

Yeah, Wright Brothers.

Michael:

1903.

Michael:

So that was still like almost 100 years ago.

Jackson:

Or like, from the camera.

Michael:

Yeah, that was almost 100 years from the camera.

Michael:

So:

Michael:

And then they finally.

Michael:

They were like, all right, we can fly.

Michael:

if you saw something in like:

Michael:

You're a witch.

Michael:

Yeah, time to get burned at the stake.

Jackson:

Or hung.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

They're like, sorry, sorry about that.

Michael:

But that's how it works.

Michael:

Like, that's just the times.

Michael:

That's just the political climate we're in right now.

Michael:

Sorry.

Michael:

I wish I could do something.

Jackson:

Shouldn't open your mouth.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

Should have kept that quiet.

Michael:

You know, they're inside and there's outside thoughts and you had an inside thought that you shared to the outside and that just wasn't cool of you.

Michael:

So now they take you and they hang you or they do whatever.

Michael:

So we don't know from each.

Michael:

So it's like Egypt.

Michael:

There's like depictions of things that you're like, okay, maybe aliens.

Michael:

And then there's nothing for like a couple hundred years that you're like, well, that's as blatant as the hieroglyphics, right?

Michael:

And then you go, okay.

Michael:

Which again, that was a drawing.

Michael:

Those were drawings of people being like, we saw fucking aliens.

Michael:

And they just, you know, didn't say that shit because you would have been crazy.

Michael:

The Egyptians probably were on board with it though, because they were like, they do you see these giant ass rocks, these pointy ass fucking pyramids that we built?

Michael:

Like, we didn't build them, but we'll take them.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

And so, yeah, so.

Michael:

So flying is.

Michael:

Was invented in:

Jackson:

Okay.

Michael:

The camera is:

Jackson:

Right.

Michael:

They didn't see.

Michael:

They didn't see.

Michael:

were seeing, you know, in the:

Michael:

It's hovering above, you know, our, whatever our crops are usually crops.

Michael:

It was back then.

Michael:

So they're like this thing just hovered out there.

Michael:

And the only other thing which was invented 40 years prior, they're like, that has to move forward in order to keep, like, in air.

Michael:

Like, they're like, that ain't just floating.

Michael:

And even now you really don't see.

Michael:

Like, they have like the hover crafts you can buy or whatever that like, like you can hover above, like water and like, it's just a big old fan.

Jackson:

I had a.

Jackson:

I had a kid in my third grade class.

Jackson:

His name is Will.

Jackson:

He was obsessed with building hovercrafts.

Jackson:

He also had some disabilities and.

Jackson:

But hovercrafts were his thing.

Jackson:

So every Friday he'd bring his hovercraft to class and just float around.

Michael:

Some kids like trains and some kids like hovercrafts.

Michael:

I Mean, you really can't.

Michael:

You can't.

Jackson:

Yeah, I.

Jackson:

I would.

Jackson:

You know, nothing against Will.

Jackson:

I don't.

Jackson:

I'd.

Jackson:

I'd.

Jackson:

You know, I wouldn't with kids, with trains, but I would.

Jackson:

I'd play with the trains.

Jackson:

I wouldn't play with the hovercraft.

Michael:

Right.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

So, like, even this is sitting on my desk right now, this is technically some, like, a hovercraft of sorts.

Michael:

I don't want to turn it on because it's super loud, but it has a fan in it, and it keeps it from.

Michael:

It keeps it going up, you know, so you can kind of balance it in your hand and you can toss it and it glides across the room.

Jackson:

Toss behind you, toss it at the laces.

Jackson:

We're really getting off track here, but we're just.

Jackson:

We're showing the people how hovercrafts probably work or UFOs probably work.

Michael:

You see how it, like, kind of.

Michael:

It has to be a certain amount above the ground, too, so it's like.

Michael:

Oh, all right.

Michael:

And that's enough of that.

Jackson:

Yeah.

Jackson:

All I saw was you unable to, like, juggle the hovercraft.

Michael:

Well, it's.

Michael:

It goes in different directions, so it's like.

Michael:

It is.

Michael:

It's like one of those balls that has, like, the different.

Michael:

The agility balls, you know I'm talking about.

Jackson:

No, I don't.

Michael:

They have, like.

Michael:

It's like four balls, like, put together like.

Michael:

Like this, and it's like a T.

Michael:

So when you throw it, it bounces in different directions.

Jackson:

Enough about your balls.

Michael:

o, yeah, so Basically, in the:

Michael:

It's just hovering, and they're like.

Michael:

That is impossible to do at this time.

Michael:

So from that time until.

Michael:

So from that time until.

Michael:

And then Area 51 is, like, 10 years out, you know?

Michael:

So that's.

Michael:

That's created in:

Michael:

So after all of this happens in Siberia, flashback to November.

Michael:

Oh, wait, no.

Michael:

December 17th.

Michael:

Fuck, I forgot to rewrite that down.

Michael:

But they had said that there was, like, 22 million spent on the research of.

Michael:

Hold on.

Jackson:

What year is this?

Jackson:

Or that's what you forgot to write down was a year.

Michael:

No, no.

Michael:

December:

Michael:

But I don't remember exactly what it was.

Jackson:

Oh, we jumped from what, the:

Jackson:

2017.

Michael:

Well, we jumped from 19.

Michael:

Remember, we went:

Jackson:

That's right.

Jackson:

Okay.

Jackson:

to:

Michael:

Yeah, okay.

Michael:

I was just hitting major.

Michael:

I wasn't.

Michael:

I mean, there's definitely stuff that happened in between there, but, I mean, I doubt people are coming to us for their one Stop, One Shop.

Michael:

One Stop Shop.

Michael:

One Shop stop, One, One Stop Shop.

Michael:

Yeah, yeah.

Michael:

Here.

Michael:

This was the search.

Michael:

Okay.

Michael:

I asked Google, how much did governments did the government spend on Project blue book?

Michael:

In December:

Michael:

to now,:

Jackson:

Well, yeah,:

Michael:

disclosed this information in:

Michael:

Right.

Michael:

But this is still the early:

Michael:

it's like, that was still in:

Michael:

That was 10.

Michael:

That was 10 years out from, like, them in Covid being like, all right, fine, UFOs are real.

Michael:

Like, we have a bunch of government programs that have been fucking researching this shit for a while.

Michael:

And Project Blue Book was actually run by the Air Force, I believe.

Michael:

So if you have any insider information on that.

Jackson:

I don't.

Jackson:

That's just.

Jackson:

I mean, it's insane.

Jackson:

And, yeah, like, it does take me back to coven.

Jackson:

When people, they're like, yeah, they're here.

Jackson:

And people are just like, whatever.

Jackson:

Not now.

Michael:

I can't feel like they have been.

Jackson:

You can't find toilet paper.

Jackson:

Okay, Focus on the big.

Jackson:

They focus on the important things.

Jackson:

I can't wipe my ass, and you're telling me aliens are here?

Jackson:

Like, shocker, government.

Jackson:

I already knew that.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

So, I mean, it's just.

Michael:

It's crazy that they, like, everyone was like, you know what?

Michael:

That's fine.

Michael:

You know, like, whatever.

Michael:

Doesn't surprise me at this point.

Michael:

But now cut to this week.

Michael:

They're having congressional hearings, and we actually have some clips on that.

Michael:

That's great.

Michael:

So I'm going to show them just in a row.

Congressional Speaker:

Has the government conducted secret UAP crash retrieval programs?

Congressional Speaker:

Yes or no?

David Grush:

Yes.

Congressional Speaker:

Okay.

Congressional Speaker:

Were they designed to identify and reverse engineer alien craft?

Congressional Speaker:

Yes or no?

David Grush:

Yes.

Congressional Speaker:

Does the US Government have any reverse.

Congressional Speaker:

Okay, we see that question about retrieval programs.

Congressional Speaker:

Do any U.S.

Congressional Speaker:

contractors have the same.

David Grush:

I would prefer to address in a closed session, ma'am.

Congressional Speaker:

Okay.

Congressional Speaker:

In your book, you mention government employees who've been injured by UAPs, placed on leave and receiving government compensation for their injuries.

Congressional Speaker:

Is that correct?

David Grush:

That is correct.

Congressional Speaker:

How can the government deny we have recovered craft if they're paying people?

Congressional Speaker:

Because they've been injured by recovered craft, Ma'am.

David Grush:

That's a great question.

David Grush:

That's why I think we're here again, because I've seen the documentation by the US Government for several of these individuals who have sustained sustained injuries as a result of a UAP incident.

Michael:

So the crazy thing to me is that they will be like, I'd like to in given a yes or no question, they will be like, you know what?

Michael:

I would like to discuss this in a closed session.

Michael:

It's like, just say yes.

Michael:

You know what I mean?

Jackson:

Yeah, I know, but there's.

Jackson:

Oh, my gosh.

Jackson:

I mean, there's so much to take away from there.

Jackson:

First of all, there are people among us that have been injured by some kind of alien and.

Jackson:

Or alien aircraft, and they can't even tell us about it.

Jackson:

Yeah, they're like, there's like, yeah, it was a bad, you know, like it was a firework accident or, you know.

Michael:

Yeah, they're like, the people wouldn't sleep right if you actually told them how that happened.

Jackson:

That's gosh.

Jackson:

And also his.

Jackson:

I mean, if he lies, like, I'm pretty sure he's under oath, so he'd go to jail, prison, whatever.

Jackson:

But his like.

Jackson:

Yes, ma'am.

Jackson:

Yes, ma'am.

Jackson:

Like, just so confident, so serious, like.

Michael:

Yeah, well, you have to be, if you're the one.

Michael:

If you're like leading up this and they're.

Michael:

You're their spokesperson right now on national television, like, you kind of have to be that way now.

Michael:

Okay, there's a couple other ones.

Michael:

This one talks about the speed at which our aircrafts travel versus the speed at which the aircraft that they've discovered travel.

Jackson:

Speak on that at all, ma'am.

David Grush:

I'm not qualified, certainly as a scientist or otherwise, to speculate points of origin.

David Grush:

I looked at everything from a scientific perspective.

David Grush:

So if you look at, for example, instantaneous acceleration, which was one of the observables of the program that I belong to ATIP, the human body can withstand about 9G forces for a short period of time before you suffer negative biological consequences, blackouts, and ultimately redouts and even death.

David Grush:

Comparison.

David Grush:

Our best technology, the F16, which is one of this older platform, but one of our most highly maneuverable aircraft, manned aircraft made by General Dynamics, can perform about 17 or 18 G forces before you start having structural failure, meaning that the airframe begins to disintegrate while you're flying.

David Grush:

The vehicles we're.

David Grush:

t are performing in excess of:

Michael:

So are you okay?

Michael:

So he said, the aircrafts that we make are, can go to 17 to 18 GS of G force.

Jackson:

And he's talking.

Jackson:

Yeah, he's talking about like our, I mean F16s aren't like old and they're like the iPhone.

Jackson:

They get updated every year.

Jackson:

Yeah, but they're.

Jackson:

I'm pretty sure there's quicker jets out there, but I mean, I don't know.

Jackson:

I don't know more than this guy, but at this.

Jackson:

Because he was talking about the older ones and those were 17 GS.

Jackson:

So at this point we probably have one at 18 or approaching 19.

Jackson:

But still.

Michael:

Are those like the stealth bombers?

Michael:

They come and do flyovers.

Jackson:

That's what I was imagining.

Jackson:

Like something.

Jackson:

Yeah, something stealth.

Jackson:

But maybe they're not faster.

Jackson:

Maybe I'm completely wrong.

Jackson:

Definitely could be.

Jackson:

But.

Michael:

Well, I don't, I also don't think that they're going as fast as they humanly can when they do flyovers at like the Indy 500 actually shout out.

Michael:

I am wearing the Indy 500.

Jackson:

And like, I also think that's, that's what he's saying too is like the, this is how fast they'll go until like they'll have malfunctions.

Jackson:

Like, this is how long they break down.

Jackson:

Like until it starts to break down.

Jackson:

Yeah.

Jackson:

Which is insane.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

And yeah, until like the human body starts to notice like shifts in their biologics.

Michael:

You know, I've heard of a blackout.

Jackson:

I've never heard of a red out.

Jackson:

Like, I'm guessing that's when blood is.

Michael:

Just like you're getting out of your eyeballs.

Jackson:

Yeah.

Jackson:

You're literally about to explode.

Jackson:

Holy.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

So that alone is kind of.

Michael:

I mean it's fascinating, but it's terrifying.

Michael:

I can find that fast.

Jackson:

I Wish I understood G's, but what it say?

Jackson:

So fighter jet was 17.

Jackson:

Okay.

Jackson:

So Jackson, so you.

Jackson:

This is, this is gonna be a terrible apples to apples, but you can bench 17 pounds or you can curl, you can curl a 17 pound dumbbell.

Jackson:

They can curl a 2,000 to 3,000 pound dumbbell.

Michael:

Say that again.

Jackson:

You can curl a 17 pound dumbbell until your arm starts to hurt.

Jackson:

They can curl a 2,000 or 3,000 pound dumbbell.

Jackson:

And we're starting.

Jackson:

Yeah, maybe we don't know that like, because do we?

Jackson:

I, I don't know if we have that research or documentation of this is how fast their aircraft go until they start to the bed.

Jackson:

Because we know that about us.

Jackson:

We know when our stuff will start the bed.

Jackson:

But do we?

Jackson:

We probably don't know how fast their stuff goes until it starts to the bed.

Michael:

Okay, so this is saying one G force is 22 miles per hour.

Michael:

And I don't think that's correct.

Jackson:

I have no idea who.

Jackson:

What's saying that.

Michael:

Yeah, Google.

Michael:

They're like one G force equates to a rate exchange.

Michael:

Oh, I guess, of, oh, 22 miles per hour for each second that elapses.

Jackson:

Okay, interesting.

Michael:

So 100 miles per hour is about 45 meters per mile per second.

Jackson:

Yeah.

Michael:

That's like a half a G.

Michael:

Okay, I don't know.

Michael:

I'm not.

Michael:

I'm not really understanding this.

Michael:

700 miles per hour is zero G's.

Michael:

Okay, let me.

Michael:

Let me Google this.

Michael:

How fast is 18 G's G force in.

Michael:

It's not specific.

Michael:

In miles per hour.

Michael:

Of course it's not.

Michael:

Of course it's not.

Michael:

Okay, well, I guess just really fast.

Michael:

Like, I don't even want to show you guys this.

Jackson:

Yeah.

Michael:

Because.

Jackson:

Yeah, it's so stupid.

Jackson:

That's what I'm just finding is, you know, humans, they're like.

Michael:

They're like, here's the math.

Michael:

Let us know.

Jackson:

Okay.

Jackson:

I asked AI.

Jackson:

was just being like, hey, any:

Jackson:

Okay?

Jackson:

Stop asking me questions.

Jackson:

So I said, please explain it in pounds.

Michael:

Because they're like, you're messing with fucking shit you don't understand, boy.

Jackson:

So they said in simple terms, 17 G's feels like 2,550 pounds.

Jackson:

Okay.

Jackson:

2500 pounds.

Jackson:

3000 G's feels like almost half a million pounds.

Jackson:

450,000 pounds.

Jackson:

So we can squat 2,550 pounds.

Jackson:

The aliens can squat 450,000 pounds.

Michael:

That's got to be crazy.

Michael:

That's got to be a crazy feel.

Michael:

I mean, that explains the blackout.

Michael:

I mean, that kind of pressure, just, like, on your body.

Michael:

Like, think about.

Michael:

Think about the.

Michael:

The zero gravity ride at, like, the local carnival.

Michael:

Like, you're.

Michael:

It's like, it's hard to, you know, like, lift yourself up off the wall.

Jackson:

Yeah.

Michael:

So if you were to multiply that by whatever.

Michael:

Like.

Michael:

Like imagine that.

Michael:

And again, we're not scientists.

Michael:

I'm not about to tell you the formula for that.

Michael:

But I'm just saying the rate at which that is so much more like to just be up in one of those, like, F16s or whatever.

Jackson:

I mean.

Jackson:

Yeah.

Michael:

And then so from there, and like.

Jackson:

Or people dispute because they can't handle it.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

No, I mean, I've Seen videos inside the cockpit of those.

Michael:

Never seen something inside the cockpit of a.

Michael:

I don't know, ufo, but I would love to someday.

Michael:

There was another video I stumbled upon and, you know, I don't know.

Michael:

This is Project Blue Book, undisclosed files.

Michael:

There was a video interview with an alien.

Jackson:

I thought you're gonna play it.

Michael:

Oh, I mean, I can.

Jackson:

It's talking to an alien in this video.

Michael:

Yeah.

Jackson:

And this was between:

Michael:

No, no, no.

Michael:

Project Blue Book was in the.

Michael:

Here, I wrote it down.

Michael:

Blue Book started in March of:

Jackson:

I messed that up.

Jackson:

I didn't listen.

Jackson:

Gotcha.

Michael:

Okay, okay, so then.

Michael:

So this would.

Michael:

o specifically takes place in:

Michael:

But.

Michael:

Yeah, hang on, man.

Jackson:

o if cameras were invented in:

Jackson:

Good job, us.

Jackson:

Good job, mankind.

Michael:

Okay, now it doesn't want to show me an alien interview, part one.

Michael:

Oh, there it is.

Michael:

Okay.

Michael:

Can you hear it?

Jackson:

No.

Michael:

Okay, hang on.

Jackson:

Unit June 9th.

Jackson:

Okay.

Jackson:

Yesterday you told us you traveled, and I put thousands of light years to get here.

Jackson:

Tell us from four.

Jackson:

Whatever.

Jackson:

We.

Jackson:

So I take.

Jackson:

An alien took over our future, Right?

Jackson:

So we're human.

Jackson:

Okay, so you evolved from us.

Jackson:

So what are you doing here now?

Jackson:

What's the difference?

Jackson:

So you know how the universe is created.

Jackson:

I don't buy it.

Jackson:

So you think God.

Michael:

Okay, well, hear me out.

Michael:

So in.

Michael:

In:

Michael:

Hold on, hear me out.

Michael:

In:

Michael:

So my theory is that in:

Michael:

In case this shit ever gets leaked, Jerry, you gotta dress up like a alien.

Michael:

And he's like, ah, dude, why I always have to do this?

Michael:

And they were like, yep, we know.

Michael:

Jerry, you're a unpaid intern.

Michael:

So put your alien costume on and use this voice changer, and we're gonna interview you.

Michael:

Because all of this, like, though all.

Michael:

I watched all three parts today just because I was, like, for context.

Michael:

And I was thinking the whole time, I was like, very easily could have been faked.

Michael:

This very easily could have been.

Michael:

This could have been moon landing.

Jackson:

Look.

Jackson:

I mean, I guess.

Jackson:

Did they have camera colors back then?

Michael:

I mean, this would have been the 60s.

Michael:

They're probably not.

Michael:

Not in, like, a government.

Michael:

Like, we're just doing, like, this for research.

Jackson:

Yeah, I.

Jackson:

I don't buy it.

Jackson:

Look at the comments.

Jackson:

You know, Comments are always correct.

Jackson:

What do the comments say?

Jackson:

I bet they relate to someone.

Michael:

Says, so did he not get the job?

Michael:

Love this.

Michael:

Honestly, I don't care if this video is fake or real.

Michael:

The message is so deep and clear, it makes perfect sense, right?

Michael:

I mean, like the.

Michael:

Like, let's finish this real quick because it's only got two minutes left.

Michael:

Do you want to or no?

Jackson:

Do you want to?

Jackson:

I.

Jackson:

No, we're okay.

Michael:

No, I watched it already, so, I mean, if you want to watch.

Michael:

If you guys want to go watch it.

Michael:

It's many things.

Michael:

Meni Things is the channel.

Michael:

I mean, this video has 9.1 million views.

Jackson:

That is wild.

Michael:

And it was eight years ago that this was released.

Michael:

But Project Blue Book was a real thing.

Michael:

But I could see them leaking this, being like, hey, and there's three parts to this and they're all like six minutes each.

Michael:

So, I mean, it really wasn't hard to watch all three.

Michael:

I mean, it was like maybe a half hour out of my day that I was like, fuck it.

Michael:

Let's see what this aliens gotta say.

Jackson:

Yeah, go ahead.

Michael:

Oh, someone said, I guess that explains my receding hairline.

Michael:

I'm evolving into an alien.

Michael:

Some said.

Michael:

June:

Michael:

The word dogma tells you everything you need to know about our own free will.

Jackson:

Go to.

Michael:

Oh, yeah, we missed that.

Michael:

They said that.

Michael:

Hold on, wait.

Michael:

They said the.

Michael:

In this, they said it would be a human that would lead us for a short period of time in the next 50 years from the point in which this was recorded.

Michael:

They were like, it's from this point in time, in 50 years from now, someone is going to lead, and someone is going to lead us directly into a nuclear war.

Michael:

But only a few million people died in this nuclear war.

Michael:

But the nuclear radiation is what caused them, the human race, to evolve into aliens.

Jackson:

So go to the comment.

Jackson:

It's not supposed to be real.

Jackson:

It's made by special effects professional and it's the message that matters.

Jackson:

Go to the first comment because someone has 82 replies.

Jackson:

Yeah, I thought they're gonna be like, ranked.

Michael:

No, you're wrong.

Michael:

This is made by a professional.

Michael:

But the message is what matters.

Michael:

Who said that to who?

Michael:

I don't even know.

Michael:

Sometimes these get so jumbled up.

Jackson:

Some guy was ripping it apart.

Jackson:

does dates back to about the:

Jackson:

Listen to how the interviewer speaks.

Jackson:

s through the thousands,:

Jackson:

Since the advent of social media, it has really taken off and now it's heard in the news media constantly and in public speaking.

Michael:

Yeah.

Jackson:

So basically, thank you.

Jackson:

Suppressed information shout out.

Jackson:

Do you have any more testimonial videos?

Michael:

Yes.

Michael:

Right.

Michael:

We only watch two of them.

Jackson:

Yeah.

Michael:

Okay.

Michael:

This is the third and final testimonial video or not testimonial, but would it be a testimony?

Michael:

I don't know.

Michael:

This is a clip from the fucking US Congressional hearing.

Michael:

Fuck me.

Michael:

Okay.

Congressional Speaker:

You've stated that the government is in possession of potentially non human spacecraft.

Congressional Speaker:

Based on your experience and extensive conversations with experts, do you believe our government has made contact with intelligent extraterrestrials?

David Grush:

Something I can't discuss in public sector setting.

Congressional Speaker:

Okay.

Congressional Speaker:

I can't ask when you think this occurred.

Congressional Speaker:

If you believe we have crashed craft stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft?

David Grush:

As I've stated publicly already in my News Nation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries.

Jackson:

Yeah.

Congressional Speaker:

Were they, I guess, human or non human biologics?

Jackson:

Non human.

Michael:

And that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I talked to that are currently still on the program.

Jackson:

Did you hear that before he spoke?

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

So that is David Grush.

Michael:

Gershwin nailed it.

Michael:

Yeah, I think it's David Grush.

Michael:

He is of the United States Air Force and as well as a member of the United States intelligence community.

Michael:

And he has testified that he was.

Michael:

A video of him testifying to recovering a UFO crash craft that had non human biologics that had been recovered with it.

Michael:

It's kind of scary.

Michael:

That's a little spooky.

Jackson:

I wonder what the skin's like.

Michael:

Why.

Michael:

Why the.

Michael:

There's a.

Michael:

There was one video I found that was like they were doing an alien autopsy.

Michael:

And I mean, I watched a couple seconds of it.

Michael:

It kind of got annoying because they just kept playing like elevator music behind it.

Michael:

It was like it was before.

Michael:

I.

Michael:

Like, there's no one talking during it, but yeah, I don't know, it's like, felt weird because, I don't know, I was like this.

Michael:

That kind of actually did resemble more human than the other one that was just shown in that one video we watched.

Michael:

And I was watching it and I was like, it feels like they just put prosthetics on a person.

Michael:

And then.

Michael:

Because, like, it just looked like a bloated me with.

Michael:

I mean.

Michael:

I mean, they didn't.

Michael:

It didn't Have a penis.

Michael:

It was naked, right?

Michael:

So it had, like, what looked like vagina on it.

Michael:

I'm not going to show the video, but it was weird, you know, it had, like, a little bloated toddler belly, you know?

Michael:

I'm talking about how, you know how toddlers, they get that, like, belly that just sticks out.

Michael:

Yeah, they get like a little beer belly and just sticks out just from all the Cheerios and fucking puff corn that they eat all day.

Jackson:

What if aliens still just crush beers?

Michael:

They're like, yeah, they're like, you know what?

Michael:

Like, there have been a lot of technological advances, but our favorite Sam Adams.

Michael:

Like, we just fucking love a Boston lager.

Jackson:

I think the biggest takeaway was that was again, the non answer when she was like, have we made intelligence?

Jackson:

And you're just like, yeah, I can't talk about that publicly.

Michael:

So that's interesting.

Jackson:

Yes.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

They're like, in so many words, yes.

Michael:

But the.

Michael:

The thing is, is, like, they were like, you asked in a way that's like, there's more to this answer than just a yes.

Michael:

Like, that's.

Michael:

That's how I picture when they go.

Michael:

It's not exactly a yes, but it's.

Michael:

You're close.

Michael:

You know what I mean?

Michael:

Like, you're real close.

Jackson:

That's what.

Jackson:

Maybe it's like, we've attempted, but, like, have yet sort of like, we don't know how to interpret what they're saying.

Jackson:

You know, there's no way we know what in the hell they are saying.

Michael:

Well, and that's like, that's why I was so skeptical of the video.

Michael:

I'm like, you tell him this video.

Michael:

This alien in the 60s came down and was like, I speak English.

Jackson:

I need a peanut butter jelly.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

You're telling me this alien just.

Michael:

You're telling me this.

Michael:

This.

Michael:

This alien just talks like RFK Jr.

Michael:

Like, really?

Jackson:

I need a beer.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

So, I mean, ultimately, we're not the experts.

Michael:

We're just talking about it.

Michael:

We just thought it was interesting.

Jackson:

I don't know.

Jackson:

I think we're probably correct on everything we've assumed.

Michael:

I think our assumptions are pretty close.

Jackson:

Yeah.

Jackson:

You know, they're.

Jackson:

The government probably is after us now because we're so factually correct.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

And you know, Sonny, if I go missing, make sure this episode gets out there.

Jackson:

You know, I'll try, but not if I go missing first.

Michael:

Right?

Michael:

That's true.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

I just feel like my house has a lot more, like, places that someone could be ducking behind walls and waiting to fucking, like, Lethal inject me.

Jackson:

That's true.

Michael:

Like, yeah, I'm just gonna be making popcorn later, and they're just gonna be like, right in the neck and just like.

Jackson:

But our neighbors did just move out, so that leaves room for somebody to move in.

Michael:

Yeah, stay strapped, brother.

Jackson:

You too.

Michael:

I sleep with my gun loaded in the safety off, just under the pillow.

Michael:

I wake up, do a desk pop.

Jackson:

See, I just sleep with an alien head on me.

Jackson:

So that way, if they ever visit me at night, they think I'm one of them.

Michael:

I'm not worried about the aliens.

Michael:

I'm worried about our own government.

Jackson:

That too.

Jackson:

Our government head.

Michael:

I'd be more worried about our own government than aliens.

Michael:

I feel like aliens would be like.

Michael:

I think they'd come down and be like, hey, you guys are pretty close.

Michael:

If I ever get abducted, they'd be like, hey.

Michael:

And I'll be like, you guys watched it?

Michael:

You guys got YouTube up there?

Jackson:

Yeah.

Jackson:

Did you subscribe?

Michael:

I.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

That would be awesome.

Michael:

You guys want to come on the podcast?

Michael:

Like, that would be so sick.

Jackson:

Yeah, we're having.

Jackson:

We're having Zach Ryan on.

Jackson:

Like, we'll have you on right after.

Jackson:

You know, it'll.

Jackson:

It'll really help.

Michael:

Oh, that's so funny.

Jackson:

All right, well, what do we learn?

Jackson:

We're not alone.

Michael:

We're not alone.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

And I mean, we also learned that the government called people crazy for years.

Michael:

And then like 50 years later, they were like, all right, you guys, there may or may not have been bugging UFOs this whole time.

Michael:

Have you ever seen a UFO?

Jackson:

When I was in Wyoming, me and my buddy were pulling into our parking lot.

Jackson:

And to pull into it, you had to go up like a six foot, like, hill.

Jackson:

Like, it was really steep.

Jackson:

And like, we hit it and you just see straight up in the Wyoming, pitch black sky.

Jackson:

It was like a ball of green light and then just shot forward and then disappeared.

Jackson:

So, I don't know.

Jackson:

You tell me.

Jackson:

Was it a green shooting star or a ua.

Jackson:

Ap.

Jackson:

Ufo.

Jackson:

Av?

Michael:

Yeah, you were close.

Michael:

Uap, UFO or aav.

Michael:

But they did some of the videos that I found.

Michael:

They said that there were different types of UFOs.

Michael:

Obviously.

Michael:

Like, some of them showed saucers, some of them showed rings.

Michael:

So, like it's got like a hollowed out middle and it's just that, like, circulating.

Michael:

One time I saw, it was like six balls of light.

Michael:

This is like, it's pit black.

Michael:

It was like a clear night.

Jackson:

I think I saw.

Michael:

No, no, no.

Michael:

This was me sitting in my, like in My parents backyard.

Michael:

And like, I was like floating in the pool and I.

Michael:

It was like, you know, like, like midnight, 1am I'm floating in the pool and this.

Michael:

I just see these six balls of light going and they're circulating and they just disappeared in whatever few clouds were.

Michael:

Were there that night.

Michael:

It was not.

Michael:

It was like far and few between on the clouds too.

Michael:

We just talked about like the government popping out from behind a corner.

Michael:

And my cat just popped out from behind the corner.

Michael:

So I was like, holy.

Michael:

I'm like, did they send you?

Michael:

Are you wearing a wire?

Jackson:

Cats are probably aliens.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

This little dude behind me is crazy.

Jackson:

That's like.

Jackson:

Because I feel like if aliens came to Earth, all they would have wanted to do is try and test our patience.

Jackson:

And I.

Jackson:

That's what cats do.

Jackson:

That's literally how cats are programmed.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

Let me see if you can see him.

Michael:

Come on, bud.

Jackson:

I can't.

Michael:

Oh, he's stretching.

Michael:

He's busy.

Jackson:

He can't be by testing our patients.

Michael:

Just like, he really doesn't.

Michael:

He really doesn't care that I'm here.

Michael:

Like, other than when I'm feeding him.

Jackson:

He's like, cats don't give a shit.

Michael:

He doesn't want to be picked up right now.

Michael:

That's the other thing is like, dogs are like, yes, please, give me attention, Give me attention.

Michael:

And cats are like, nah.

Michael:

All right, now get out of here.

Michael:

Like, what are you doing?

Michael:

Get out of here.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

Not in front of my friends, dad.

Michael:

But yeah.

Michael:

So basically we learned that from the 40s and 50s, they were just putting people in vans and hauling them off the loony bin.

Michael:

And then at.

Michael:

And I'm only calling it the loony bin because that's what they called it during that time.

Michael:

And the:

Michael:

In:

Michael:

And in March of:

Michael:

That went until:

Michael:

And you can find all this on YouTube.

Michael:

I just, you know, whatever I'm talking about, just Google it.

Michael:

I mean, it's all there.

Michael:

And some of this stuff is speculation, but some of this stuff is also just the government doesn't want you to know.

Michael:

So open your eyes.

Michael:

Like, I don't know how much.

Michael:

Like, I don't know how much they have to be like, we were lying about that for to come out for people to be like, oh my God, they're still lying to us.

Michael:

You know what I mean?

Jackson:

Yeah.

Michael:

And then December 17, they came out and said that they had spent 22 million on the like, Aerial Threat Identification Program.

Michael:

And then in November:

Michael:

We're literally still in congressional hearings about the UFOs that they found and have.

Michael:

People have sustained injuries, is what we learned from some of these videos.

Michael:

And the speed at which they travel is un unimaginable by like, for the human body, as well as just the fact that we're in possession of alien biologics as well as their crashed phenomena.

Michael:

Yeah, I guess.

Jackson:

Of resources.

Jackson:

And we've.

Jackson:

We, we.

Jackson:

We might be talking to them, but we can't talk about it.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

And then we watched some silly video that someone created, definitely with the interview with the.

Michael:

I mean, how stupid will I feel once if that.

Michael:

If, like, that comes out is like.

Michael:

They were like, no, that was real.

Michael:

Yeah.

Jackson:

Like, we tried, like, it's like we literally tried to.

Jackson:

On YouTube, dude.

Jackson:

It's on YouTube.

Jackson:

We are on YouTube, dude.

Michael:

Yeah.

Jackson:

You still don't believe us?

Michael:

Yeah.

Jackson:

Let me put my finger into my head and melt your entire memory.

Michael:

The only thing I think is, like, what if we, like, got it all wrong?

Michael:

Like, we don't like, like the way they're.

Michael:

They're depicted, like in the videos that we showed.

Michael:

And you know, like, what if that's all.

Michael:

Like, they're like, we don't even look like that.

Jackson:

What if they all look like the grandma that I need some chocolate.

Michael:

Right?

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

Like, what if they look like something we don't.

Michael:

We haven't thought of and it's.

Michael:

And then they, you know, it's kind of like when they go, you know, it's like, it's like a racial stereotype.

Michael:

It's like being like, we don't all look like that.

Jackson:

Like, like, really, our heads are.

Jackson:

You think our heads are that big?

Michael:

Yeah, it's like if you show.

Michael:

It's like if you showed everyone a picture of Gary Busey and you were like, this is what white people look like.

Michael:

And people are.

Michael:

Well, not all of us.

Michael:

You know what I mean?

Michael:

Like, some of us don't look like that, but yeah.

Michael:

So that is a.

Michael:

Another thing that I think maybe could be a possibility.

Michael:

Like, maybe they do just look like us.

Jackson:

Did your cat meow?

Michael:

He did.

Jackson:

I heard it.

Jackson:

We heard.

Jackson:

Yeah, that was an alien.

Michael:

It's because there's a door that's like, I keep shut all the time.

Michael:

And he wants to go in there, but I don't let him in there.

Michael:

But, yeah, he's got three other floors to explore.

Michael:

That's what I'm saying.

Michael:

Like, just go.

Michael:

Go have at it, buddy.

Michael:

Just not that one room.

Michael:

Yeah, so that's just a big thing for me is that I'm like, wavy.

Michael:

We're getting it wrong.

Michael:

There's great movies or there's great documentaries out there about, like, you know, things behind the scenes, like ancient aliens.

Michael:

There is a Project Blue Book on the History Channel.

Michael:

They're just cool, fascinated, fascinating.

Michael:

And a lot of it would probably be labeled under speculation until the government decides to actually come out and tell us what's been happening at Area 51, which they claim that we wouldn't be able to understand, but whatever.

Michael:

And I mean, like, I'm like, yeah, I don't want to.

Michael:

Don't.

Michael:

You don't have to show your fucking work.

Michael:

Just, like, you know, tell me the answers.

Michael:

You know, like, I want to see what you guys have come up with.

Michael:

I'm fascinated by it.

Michael:

And, like, that whole.

Michael:

Do you remember when they were going to storm Area 51?

Jackson:

Oh, the Facebook group.

Michael:

Yeah, there was, like, a Facebook group, and there was, like.

Michael:

They were, like, tweeting about it.

Michael:

People were like, hey, getting ready.

Michael:

And then instead, they stormed the Capitol.

Jackson:

There was like.

Michael:

Like, you know, we were like, no, that's not.

Michael:

Every 51.

Jackson:

The wrong place, dude.

Jackson:

Somebody sent the wrong address.

Michael:

Yeah, they were like, we got the laptop.

Michael:

I'm like, wrong laptop.

Jackson:

So last.

Jackson:

My last point, and then.

Jackson:

And then we can wrap up.

Jackson:

Why are.

Jackson:

Okay, they're telling us this now, right?

Jackson:

They're releasing all this information.

Jackson:

Like, hey, aliens are real.

Jackson:

Like, if you knew, you knew.

Jackson:

Cool.

Jackson:

They didn't tell us, right?

Jackson:

Because most likely they were afraid of how us humans would handle it.

Jackson:

Like, how would they.

Jackson:

How the general public handle this information?

Michael:

Right.

Jackson:

People care, but I think people really don't give a.

Michael:

No.

Michael:

I mean, ultimately, like, yeah, you might get a couple people try and storm the.

Michael:

Oh, can we also mention really quick that all of the things that have happened, like, a lot of the things that have happened in the US Happened in Roswell, New Mexico, which is where probably Area 51 is.

Jackson:

It's in Arizona, I'm pretty sure, by Scott Air Force Base.

Michael:

Is it.

Michael:

Is that common knowledge, or did you just leak government secrets?

Jackson:

It's.

Jackson:

I think that's like, the nearest military base to Area 51 is Scott.

Jackson:

Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure.

Jackson:

And I.

Jackson:

Yeah, I Don't think it's in New Mexico, but I know with aliens has gone down in New Mexico.

Michael:

It is located at.

Michael:

It's in southern Nevada.

Michael:

Nevada.

Jackson:

Oh, I said Arizona.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

So even if.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Michael:

It's a u.

Michael:

S.

Michael:

Air force installation, notorious for its rumored connection with UFOs.

Jackson:

Like, what do you mean?

Jackson:

Known for its notorious.

Jackson:

Like.

Michael:

Like, what else are they doing there?

Jackson:

Yeah, just stop.

Michael:

That's what you guys do.

Michael:

Like, that is not like.

Michael:

That's like.

Michael:

They're like, yeah, we once, you know, label.

Michael:

We did it one time labeled for life.

Michael:

Like, no, you guys, that is what they.

Michael:

That is.

Michael:

That's what you do.

Jackson:

Okay, I.

Jackson:

Okay, so we're on the subject.

Jackson:

I might as well bring it up.

Jackson:

There is.

Jackson:

You're.

Jackson:

You're gonna have to look this up, and we're gonna have to pull up the picture.

Jackson:

There's allegedly an.

Jackson:

A gigantic tunnel system under the United States.

Jackson:

And it is about, like, three semi trucks, sideways, tall, and wide.

Jackson:

And it goes from, like, California to, like, Colorado down in Nevada, into, like, Nebraska and, like, all the way through, like, the east coast and like that.

Jackson:

And not allegedly or apparently, but if you look at the size of the tunnel, it's.

Jackson:

It's like.

Jackson:

It's kind of round, like, kind of domey, and it's like, okay, like, what else would, like, fly out of here?

Jackson:

Like, why is there so.

Jackson:

But this is all alleged.

Jackson:

Of course.

Jackson:

But I.

Michael:

Well, I'm getting a lot of, like, stuff about, like, Chicago having it, But I mean, if it's all over the know.

Michael:

Is this what you're talking about?

Michael:

I mean, these are just probably, like, images attached to these things.

Jackson:

Yeah.

Jackson:

Click on one of them.

Michael:

Yeah, I am right here.

Michael:

You see this?

Michael:

No.

Jackson:

It just says, secret tunnel network, chica.

Jackson:

I don't care about Chicago's.

Michael:

No, I know.

Michael:

I showed you the other one, too.

Michael:

Well, you want me to, like, click on, like, or do you want, like.

Jackson:

That's like, a movie tunnel?

Jackson:

No, click on a map.

Jackson:

Click on a map of a tunnel.

Jackson:

Like that.

Jackson:

Where they actually go.

Michael:

Nope, this is mineral resources.

Michael:

God, you guys are in for a treat.

Michael:

We're so stupid.

Michael:

All right, I can't find this.

Michael:

I mean, if it's secret and alleged, I doubt they want you to know about it.

Michael:

All right, let me try and go to this.

Michael:

Yes, The United States has thousands of miles of underground tunnels, including abandoned subway tunnels, unused sewers, old mine shafts, and more.

Michael:

I doubt that's what you're talking about.

Jackson:

No, I'm gonna find it.

Jackson:

Or maybe pull it up.

Michael:

Yeah, I don't think this is gonna have it, bud.

Michael:

I said tunnel system under all of the U.S.

Jackson:

It was, it was on like the Discovery Channel.

Jackson:

I'm pretty sure, like, here's an entire story about, about it.

Michael:

All right, well, have you ever seen the show Inside Job?

Michael:

Because that's how I imagine Area 51 to be.

Michael:

It's like a cartoon.

Michael:

It's like a Rick and Morty style cartoon.

Michael:

But like, they're like walking around like lizard people and like shapeshifters.

Jackson:

No, I've heard of all things.

Michael:

But yeah, it's like they're like, yeah, every.

Michael:

Conspiracy theories pretty much nailed it.

Michael:

They're like, it's just, you know, we just can't tell the public because they'll freak out.

Michael:

That's like the whole, the whole concept of the show.

Michael:

I mean, it's.

Michael:

I like it.

Michael:

I think it's a very funny show.

Michael:

But I.

Michael:

Sometimes I'll like, get high and watch it.

Michael:

And I'm like, that might be real.

Michael:

That might be what's happening.

Michael:

Like, oh, and like, here's the other thing.

Michael:

People who say that they're not.

Michael:

That they don't believe in aliens or they don't believe in some of these things, it's like, it's like, sure, yeah, you're like, you're so stupid like that.

Michael:

Like, you're so dumb for not believing in it.

Michael:

Like, you're thinking that this is it, this is it.

Michael:

Like, look into a telescope and there's.

Michael:

There's solar systems other than ours and you think that's it.

Michael:

Like, that's just.

Michael:

They're just like lonely planets, like, floating out there.

Michael:

I know that.

Michael:

Where the Earth is the only one that's inhabitable.

Michael:

I think they found like, traces of ancient water on Mars.

Michael:

But you're saying that like the only thing like that, like, that's it.

Michael:

We're the only planet in all of the solar systems that can inhabit life, and we've successfully done that.

Michael:

Like, why wouldn't there be other life forms on other planets and other solar systems?

Michael:

Like, you're so dumb.

Michael:

Have you never seen Star wars, dude?

Michael:

Like, freaking.

Jackson:

Live a little.

Jackson:

Like it's okay to believe in something like that because the people that don't, it's like, okay, I don't know if I want to continue this conversation because, no offense, you just seem that are boring.

Michael:

You don't believe in anything.

Michael:

That's like when people are like, because I'm.

Michael:

I.

Michael:

I'm religious, like, I'm Christian, so If someone goes, well, why do you believe in God?

Michael:

Like, because sometimes it's nice to think that, like, once I die, it isn't just darkness.

Jackson:

Good thing.

Michael:

That's it, dude.

Michael:

That's it, dude.

Michael:

You're just gonna die and that's it.

Michael:

That's all that happens.

Michael:

It's like, really, it's like, even if I'm wrong, I would love.

Michael:

I mean, like, you know what?

Michael:

I mean it.

Michael:

Who cares if I'm wrong?

Michael:

I would rather just believe that there is, like, a great place with huge pearly gates that are just gonna open up and be like, yep, you made it, bud.

Jackson:

Or you could turn into an alien that's obsessed with beer.

Michael:

Yeah, if aliens.

Michael:

Yeah, if aliens are still knocking back cold ones, I wouldn't mind hanging with them either.

Michael:

But that's another thing that.

Michael:

That one video, the one that had three parts, that was definitely like, an intern in a costume.

Michael:

They, like, covered like, oh, we're just like descendants upon, like, of you guys and all this and that.

Michael:

We, you know, fled because of all this.

Michael:

Because of the nuclear, pretty much holocaust that it caused.

Jackson:

Nope.

Michael:

What it.

Jackson:

You mean like you said nuclear holocaust?

Michael:

Yeah, I stand by that.

Michael:

I feel like you don't understand what I meant by that.

Michael:

And that's.

Jackson:

I guess I don't.

Michael:

So, like, a nuclear holocaust would be like.

Michael:

It's all the, like, radiation and stuff that poisoned everyone, and that's what killed off the planet and made some of them evolve into aliens.

Michael:

Aliens, yeah, that was the point of the video.

Michael:

But, like, they were just, like, warning against, I guess, nuclear war that could turn into something like that.

Michael:

Like, that.

Michael:

That would.

Michael:

Yeah.

Jackson:

Apocalypse was the word I was thinking.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

I mean, I've heard nuclear holocaust used because, like, of all the gases and the radiation that comes off of all of that, that would be so poisonous to the bodies.

Michael:

It would be like in nuclear holocaust.

Michael:

I've heard it compared to that.

Jackson:

So Shit's wild, man.

Michael:

Is wild, man.

Michael:

That is a great way to sum up this episode, you know?

Jackson:

Yeah.

Jackson:

Sometimes people suck.

Jackson:

And shit's wild, man.

Michael:

Yeah.

Michael:

Is wild.

Michael:

Well, until next week.

Jackson:

Until next week.

Michael:

To live our day so brave when the world gets serious Turn the dial for goofy wisdom and Michael smile Jackson's weight cut sharper than the wind In Windy City they're your best friends Windy City Joes they got the groove when the mics go live you gotta move Tune in for laughs from these two bros.

Michael:

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