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12: Reclaiming Your Authentic Voice With Christina Glickman
Episode 1215th March 2023 • Mystical Sisterhood • Maureen Spielman
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Christina Glickman is an accomplished author, momma, speaker and entrepreneur. And at the heart of it all, she is a woman creating sacred spaces for conscious conversations that support and inspire. This week’s deep dive conversation is with Christina Glickman, founder of Xtra Love Army and creator of the TEDx talk “Reclaiming Our Voice. Women - Ones You’ve Been Waiting For”. In this soulful interview, Christina sheds light on what women lost during the pandemic and what they found community in the form of each other. She is such an avid supporter of women living out their dreams and as a business coach, guides them to bring their true heart’s desire to life. The world simply is calling for more of her energy and light. Take a listen, I have a feeling you will love.

EPISODE TAKEAWAYS:

  • Christina’s shift from the hustle to the flow
  • Why nothing really trumps human connection and our collective energy
  • Mothering and how it fits into Christina’s overall life vision
  • The creation of a TEDx talk as the both/and: a major milestone and one of the most exhausting times of her life
  • The purpose of sharing of our stories: as a way of inspiring others and creating true soul connections with one another
  • Acknowledgment of the new way of doing business - we are more powerful together

About the Guest:

Christina Glickman is a TEDx speaker, host of the podcast Xtra: Life & Style Unscripted, best selling author of the book, Xtra: The Art of being, founder of the movement the Xtra Love Army and was recently featured in Elle and Harper's Bazaar for the Best Street Style looks from the Paris Fashion week shows. She is a mother of four and lives to champion others to show up in life unapologetically, to live a life XTRA.

WATCH MY TEDx

LISTEN TO XTRA: LIFE & STYLE UNSCRIPTED PODCAST

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/xtra-life-style-unscripted/id1600128174

JOIN XTRA LOVE ARMY/ CONNECT 1x1

Membership & coaching

BOOK: Xtra: The Art of Being

FOLLOW: @christinaglickman

About the Host:

Maureen Spielman is the Founder of Mystical Sisterhood, a podcast dedicated to bringing more joy, healing and expansion to the world. She is a seasoned life coach who supports individuals through one-on-one coaching, groups and workshops.

Connect with Maureen:

● Check out her Instagram @maureeenspielman

● Learn more about her work at www.maureenspielman.com

● Want to join our Mystical Sisterhood Membership community? Find out more here:

https://www.maureenspielman.com/mysticalsisterhood

● Email Maureen at hello@maureenspielman.com to inquire about coaching, podcasting & speaking engagements.

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Maureen Spielman:

Hey there, welcome to mystical sisterhood.

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This is your host, Maureen Spielman. I started the show to

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highlight the intuitives, healers and other courageous

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women that I've met along my journey and continue to meet.

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Through amazing interviews, I seek to ask insightful questions

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to uncover ways in which you the listener can apply the wisdom

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and knowledge to your own life. I believe that we're all in this

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together. So sharing healing and joy, and bringing community

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together is both my passion and purpose. If you'd like to learn

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more about the mystical sisterhood community I'm

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building, please visit www mystical sisterhood.com See you

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in the episode. All right. Welcome to mystical sisterhood.

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I'm your host, Maureen Spielman. And I'm so excited to be with

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Christina Glickman, today, I met Christina years ago, as we were,

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I was starting a business, she was already an entrepreneur, and

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she guided and mentored me. But, Christina, I think you so

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succinctly, in your sort of like tagline, under your signature,

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kind of say what you do, and I'm just gonna read it. You have

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mother, TEDx, speaker, author, podcaster, and you're the

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founder of extra love army. So I'm just gonna, I just wanted to

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share that with our audience, because it was just so simple,

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the way you have it written out. And I want to touch upon all

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those things today. And I think our conversation is going to go

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a lot of places, when I think of you, I think of a woman who is

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an absolute 1,000% champion of other women, you live life,

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unabashedly as yourself, you show up in such a real way, with

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people that I think it creates a safety and really sacred space

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for them. So those are just just some beginning, introduction

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points I want to make for you. Christina also has a book called

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extra, the art of being it's a beautiful, I don't even know how

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to explain it. Coffee Table Book, with your fashions, and

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your take on life. And again, you've got this way of doing

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these things that simple, it's straightforward. And it just, I

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just think it speaks to people. You're now I'm having a weekly

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podcast called Extra Life and style unscripted. So we're gonna

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talk about that, because what you say about living life,

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unscripted, might say, at all, not sure. And then you have a

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TEDx talk. And those are just some of the things that you've

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got going on. But I want to welcome you here today and say,

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I'm so grateful to be in your energy and your presence, and

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how you doing?

Christina Glickman:

Oh, my gosh, thank you for having me. Those

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are such nice words. I just adore everything you're doing.

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And thank you for opening the container for so many women to

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hear about the conversations that you've been having for

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years. And so for me, just as your friend watching you

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completely come alive in this new type of business. It's just

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such a joy. So I'm honored to be here and privileged to be with

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your community and your sisterhood. And I love

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everything you're doing. And can I just say, as a fan of yours,

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like keep doing it? Like keep keep, keep introducing us to

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people? I was just about to press play on the one that you

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were talking about yesterday? Because there's so many I can't

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even pronounce the word, the recording what that word is

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within a I think the Akashic Record. Yeah, yeah. I don't know

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what that is. It's like how beautiful that you're

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introducing us to so many things. So just thank you as a

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fan of your work. And I am excited about our conversation

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today. And hopefully, we can, you know, have some insightful

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chat, hear about all the work that you do.

Maureen Spielman:

Thank you so much, Christina. And I think

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that's right. I think that for the people that I'm having on

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first these concepts, and they're they all are new

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learnings to me at some point, too. So you know, we're all

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overlapping and layering on what we know. And it's amazing. You

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just said something about, I don't know how you just said it,

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but it was like a new way of doing business or this new way

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of entrepreneurship here. Why don't we start

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there? Sure. I mean, absolutely. And I think

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it's because as of late, I really talked about my life and

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for others as us being life entrepreneurs, meaning that

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we're equally ambitious professionally as we are

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personally. And so I think If you have a sense of curiosity

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and wonder, and always knowing that the person you're talking

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to has something to teach you, and just sort of being open to

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that presence, for me is how a new kind of entrepreneurship was

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born. Because I think before, for me, it was always about the

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chase and the hustle and the accolades, and the success and

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the productivity and all the things that programmed me that I

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identified with that made me feel worthwhile and valuable.

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And it's taken me years to sort of shed that skin to understand

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that all of those sort of mechanics and pieces of it

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really don't make my identity and, and that it takes a lot of

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work. I'm still working on it, I think I'll be working on it

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forever. But I think the moment that we released some of those

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badges, if you will, then we are able to become entrepreneurs of

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our own passion and joy. And because again, we all know that

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operating with anxiety and fear is exhausting. And it's the same

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that holds true for operating without our authentic self.

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Because, you know, if I come on to this podcast, and I think,

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oh, my gosh, I want to be as great as Marine, I'm going to

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fail already, because I'm not you. And instead if I can come

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on and say, I'm just bringing my whole self and my intention is

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pure, and I hope that something I say lands on someone to has to

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be enough.

Maureen Spielman:

Oh, I love that. Yes, yes. And our pieces

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come together, and they complement one another. Yeah. I

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like what you said about this concept. I have not heard that

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of life entrepreneur. Because when I started, I said, the

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first thing you say, in that tagline is Mother, you know, so

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the old version of the entrepreneur would be like,

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what's your business? What do you serve to your business? You

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know how much money you're gonna make through it. But then you

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start with mother. So that to me, says, oh, that's part of

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that life entrepreneur, that's it's got its Christina is not

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just not only the extra love army, she's much bigger than

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that.

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And I used to, I used to fight against so

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many. And I think a lot of a lot of the people listening will

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understand. I used to fight against so many of those badges

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because they did give me a comfort of who I was right. So

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so you know, if I'm not a mother, what am I if I'm not a

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working woman or an entrepreneur, what am I? And

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I've realized, and I'm sure you have to that, you know, we're

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many things right, were a bunch of hands. And that's a beautiful

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thing. And as I sort of learned the power of reflection, I'm

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understanding why I've done certain things in my life. And I

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will never think any step is a mistake or a regret. I think

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it's all about the journey about who we are. But even when I look

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back in the past couple years of my life, I think there's certain

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moves I made because my ego needed them, or I needed the

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credibility or validity to feel like I was important enough. And

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so I feel like the older I get, and the more work I do, the more

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I also realize that the here and now in the moment I'm in and the

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work I'm doing like, again, it's exactly where I'm supposed to be

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and the universe isn't gonna miss me. And I just am very,

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very aware that the only energy that I want to chase is peace. I

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don't want to chase anything else, because I did it for so

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many years. Right. And I also don't judge anyone that's in

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that moment of, of hustle or energy because it gets you to

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where you are. And hopefully, if we talked in five more years,

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I'd be like, I don't even know who that person was, you know,

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in the greenery coat. Because I hope that we're always, you

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know, evolving and changing in that way.

Maureen Spielman:

I love that. And I think that that we can see

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at the versions of the woman, the human that we were before we

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see it in one another. Yeah. So I think as we kind of settle

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into this new way of being with women, look where this group is,

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my listeners are a lot of women identified. And I think that

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we're settling into this newer way of being where it's like,

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okay, we can we can put the hustle down. We can't and it's

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instilled, there's a lot on the outer, that's telling us we need

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to we need to chase it, we need to go for it. And it's up to us

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to make that decision. But I think like sitting in these

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circles sitting in these conversations where we're like,

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No, I see you. I've been there. Even if I haven't been there,

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I'm here for you. I'm to witness you to see your healing to see

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your growth and your transformation.

Christina Glickman:

I mean, and I think that that's what you hit

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upon, which is that I don't think anything's ever going to

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trump that power of human connection. And so by you

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opening up the container for all of us to have a discussion what

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it's what it's saying is the age old. I see you, I hear you, I

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validate you, I've been there, you've been there. So I think

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you're just kind of giving voice to the fact that you're not

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alone. And we are all trying to do something with parenting or

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something with an illness or something. It doesn't matter.

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But I think that the power of storytelling is so extreme and

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I, you know, as I've sort of thought about for myself, you

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know, I'll ask myself often like, Well, what do you do? And

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who are you? And what are you doing. And I think for me, it

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will always be that thread of, through the through storytelling

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of my own and other women, and especially women, I feel that it

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ultimately transformed somebody into thinking or being or doing

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differently. And, and whether or not somebody is in a position

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where they hear a story, and they want to do something

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different with their lives, or just makes them feel better. I

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also feel like we come in and out of when we're ready to hear

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a story. So that's why you know, you and I talking about whatever

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if the same topic is confidence, or whatever it might be, we need

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you. And that's why there's always room for everyone to open

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the circle, because that is why I love to champion, especially

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women so much is because everyone has something to share,

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if you're willing to share it. And so, the idea being if I tell

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you a story, or I tell you somebody else's, you're probably

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gonna see something of yourself in it. And it's gonna make you

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feel better. Yeah. And isn't that what we're just trying to

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do every day? It's kind of simple, but it's also really

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hard.

Maureen Spielman:

Absolutely, yeah. And it reminds me of just

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re listening to your, your TED talk, I'm just gonna go there

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for a moment. Because that that started out with storytelling.

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Yeah, and I know, that's something that you greatly

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prepared for, and put so much love and energy to, and I just

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gonna say just as a little side, that your message of extra and

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extra love is so felt, and so needed. And that delivery of

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love, and it was no accident that I'm on my way to school

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today, dropping my son, the car in front of me had two stickers

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that said, Love on this bumper today. But tell our audience

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about how did this TEDx talk about? What was that topic you

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chose?

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Sure. And I love to talk about Ted. But it's

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funny, I like to talk about Ted about the journey of it. And so

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I feel like insert yourself into the story. Forget about Ted,

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like, who cares if you want to do something like that great. If

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you don't, who cares? The idea is just about, I truly became

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somebody else through the process. And the end of the

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result, for me was a feeling of that there was no place I don't

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belong. And I couldn't, it has nothing to do with the

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accomplishment of a TED Talk. It has everything to do with the

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moment that I said, I think I want to do this. And so to kind

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of like reverse a little bit, you know, I had about five years

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ago decided that I needed more creativity in my life. And, and

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I knew there's something more I wanted to do is I think a lot of

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women just always like there's something else for me to do. And

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again, to be clear, you don't have to, like start a business

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or do something wild. But there's usually an ache of

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something else that like, you know, what I was meant to do a

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little bit more here than maybe parenting or we're not quite as

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fulfilled as we'd like to be. And so for me, it was through

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the filter of creativity. And out of that became the book and

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a few things well cut to, I felt that I had a message burning

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inside of me that I ultimately wanted women to sort of stand up

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and understand that they have more to give if they're willing

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to do it. And because we were in this pandemic world, the TED

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talk is about women reclaiming their voices, and finding their

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identity in the pandemic, because I think we've all seen

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the articles that there's been this rally cry for women that we

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are the ones that have suffered greatly during the pandemic. And

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you know, you've got millions of women that left the workforce

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and never came back. And I don't want to get into that rabbit

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hole. But the reality is that you are then taking out of the

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equation of our society, incredible minds, women that

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were at tables that are no longer there, whether it's in

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innovations or so. So we all took a step back. So the idea of

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the talk was to just tap you on the shoulder and be like, hey,

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like, I see you too. And it's not over. And by the way, all

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those women that got us here aren't going to be too pleased

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if the rest of us don't keep going. Right. Right. And so that

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was the the hope of that talk. But the real journey of that

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was, I think, and just from my personal standpoint, that

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because I was on this sort of career path of being a speaker.

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I felt like I needed TED to feel important. I felt like I needed

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to say I'm a TEDx speaker. That was my original ego driven goal

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of it. And I knew how hard it was to achieve and I wanted that

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really bad. And so when I for me, I had to go through this

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interview process and that was all difficult. But the funny

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part is by the time I got to the very end of that red.it was no

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longer even about that Tada moment anymore. It was all about

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the fact that it was so hard for me. I wanted to give 1000 times,

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I was like, why am I doing this, all those things and, you know,

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the ripple effect of my children being able to see me putting

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myself out there. And, you know, if you've talked to people that

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have done Ted it, for some reason, even as somebody that's

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a speaker, it is the most vulnerable thing you can do,

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because you're up there without a piece of paper in hand, and

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it's just you. And it was different because it's your

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story. And there's just something different about it.

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But but to kind of get back to your question a little bit. I

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think the biggest thing i'd love people to take away from Ted is,

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if you want something, try to go for it, whatever it is. And in,

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it's not actually about getting it. It's about just saying yes

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to yourself, and I share with my community along the way, how

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difficult it was to go through that process. And I would get

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messages from people saying, you know, it's so great to see you

Christina Glickman:

put yourself out there, maybe now I'll go try to get that

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position at XYZ. So, again, it's the story of when we share one

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another, that makes me say, you can do it. Well, I can do it,

Christina Glickman:

too.

Maureen Spielman:

Yeah. And I think a lot of people saying

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that, you know, you'll always hear that. If I can do it. You

Maureen Spielman:

can do Yeah, yeah, I think like, yeah, right. We it seems so easy

Maureen Spielman:

to you, right? Of course that was, but you're saying no, the

Maureen Spielman:

process was actually, it was pretty intense. No,

Christina Glickman:

I mean, it was awful. It was awful. And,

Christina Glickman:

and I mean, I was like praying for COVID to hit so that it

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would be shut down. Like that's how much I didn't want to do it

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anymore. And I and nothing that good comes that easy, right?

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Even when you think it is. And the other thing that I also

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wanted to just have other people feel is that everything's

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available to you? Yes. So if you don't think it is, I'm sorry,

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but it's an excuse. Because if you want it, you're gonna get

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it, and you're gonna do it. And so you're hiding behind it. And

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whatever the reality is, and so making movement towards whatever

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that goal is, because that is for me, I think the thing that

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makes me craziest is that, you know, we have one life here,

Christina Glickman:

period. And are you creating life? Or are you letting life

Christina Glickman:

create you? And I don't want to go through the motions. I don't

Christina Glickman:

want to just wake up in five years and say, Well, what just

Christina Glickman:

happened? Yes.

Maureen Spielman:

And five years went by, I had seen a quote the

Maureen Spielman:

other day, I'm not going to get it right. But it was on social

Maureen Spielman:

media. And someone said, like, make sure you're in the rooms,

Maureen Spielman:

with the people having the conversations that bring you

Maureen Spielman:

higher, and that's the work you're doing. And I even think

Maureen Spielman:

like a conversation like this, is that so? Oh, yes, give the

Maureen Spielman:

permission that sometimes we don't know we can give

Maureen Spielman:

ourselves. Yeah, and I think

Christina Glickman:

it also, it also starts with, for me getting

Christina Glickman:

very real in the past few years. And I know this will resonate

Christina Glickman:

with you about protecting my energy. And I didn't realize

Christina Glickman:

that commodity I was giving away so freely. And so I started to

Christina Glickman:

do this thing every week, which I do every Sunday called the IQ

Christina Glickman:

test. And I have a paper calendar because I'm like a

Christina Glickman:

dinosaur and archaic and I like to see things written out. And I

Christina Glickman:

sit there and I look at my week and I say what are the things

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that make my stomach hurt? Like, what is on my calendar that I

Christina Glickman:

don't want to do? Now again, it's life. I know, we have

Christina Glickman:

things we don't want to do. But in general, am I saying yes to a

Christina Glickman:

coffee that doesn't like fill my soul? Because I'm just sitting

Christina Glickman:

there asking the questions and not receiving anything back? Am

Christina Glickman:

I Am I saying yes to volunteering, because I don't

Christina Glickman:

want somebody to think I'm not a nice person. Am I? What am I

Christina Glickman:

doing in my life that is getting me further away from how I want

Christina Glickman:

to feel at the end of the day, because that's how I've

Christina Glickman:

transferred my brain like it's no longer what did I get done

Christina Glickman:

today? Or how productive I was. It's like I don't want to feel

Christina Glickman:

at the end of the day. And for me, I always want to feel, first

Christina Glickman:

of all that the people that I love know that I love them. Like

Christina Glickman:

that's never as generic as it is. It's never gonna go away.

Christina Glickman:

Some days. I'm not so good at it. Some days I'm good at you

Christina Glickman:

know, so it's a balance, but going through that now has

Christina Glickman:

changed my life dramatically. Because when I look at my week

Christina Glickman:

ahead, like, again, not to sound funny. I adore you. I love the

Christina Glickman:

work you're doing I get to be on your podcast, which is an honor

Christina Glickman:

and privilege for me. I wouldn't have said yes. If I didn't feel

Christina Glickman:

that. Yeah. Whereas before, I would just say yes, yes, yes,

Christina Glickman:

yes. Yes. Yes. Now, it's like, no, I look forward to it. I

Christina Glickman:

can't wait to spend time with you. And so I always say now

Christina Glickman:

that if I'm with you, you know, I really want to be there.

Christina Glickman:

Right? Yeah, no question.

Maureen Spielman:

I love I love the practice. I similarly, I

Maureen Spielman:

have been on that journey. And man, I just say it's not always

Maureen Spielman:

easy to to guard your time as that resource. Your energy is

Maureen Spielman:

that resource and I think is we are stepping into more and more

Maureen Spielman:

worthiness and then we'll see a rise in that as well. That's

Maureen Spielman:

been my experience and I was always the classic over giver

Maureen Spielman:

and I know so many listening. Oh identify It's like,

Christina Glickman:

it's like in our DNA. And, and the reality

Christina Glickman:

is, though, if you if you stop for a moment and you say to

Christina Glickman:

yourself, one, who am I surrounding myself with? And

Christina Glickman:

where? And are they draining my energy? Or are they adding value

Christina Glickman:

to it? Or this is not a selfish thing? Doesn't mean you can't be

Christina Glickman:

there for a friend and listen for an hour. It has nothing to

Christina Glickman:

do with you. It's not about that it's about we're probably

Christina Glickman:

putting it in the wrong places. Yes. And then ask yourself why,

Christina Glickman:

okay, because I want to be liked, or I want to, and again,

Christina Glickman:

there's no, there's no shame here, there's no, we're not

Christina Glickman:

doing anything wrong. But there's also this idea,

Christina Glickman:

especially as women that we need to fill the space, like, if you

Christina Glickman:

had a day where you weren't running around, you'd think

Christina Glickman:

you're gonna fill it. But the reality is that you also don't

Christina Glickman:

have to explain your time away, like your times your time. So it

Christina Glickman:

doesn't have to, you don't have to deserve an earn it like, oh,

Christina Glickman:

my gosh, I'm gonna get a massage tomorrow, because I worked so

Christina Glickman:

hard last week, and I don't know, like, I'm loving of this

Christina Glickman:

as it is, for me, that's all just a retraining. I don't It's

Christina Glickman:

not how I operate. I, I sort of, I always wanted to be that I

Christina Glickman:

like I said in my TED talk, the Real Life series, I wanted you

Christina Glickman:

to know that I was valuable and important and available. And

Christina Glickman:

that's how I pride. I used to pride myself, and I want you to

Christina Glickman:

think that I am so busy, and I've got so much going on. And I

Christina Glickman:

have got that gave me worse. And so now when people sometimes

Christina Glickman:

leave me a message and say, Oh, I know you're so busy. I'm like,

Christina Glickman:

No, I'm actually not so busy. I'm doing what I love my time

Christina Glickman:

now I've got a lot of things going on. But they're all things

Christina Glickman:

I love to do. It's beautiful. And again, I check myself

Christina Glickman:

though, when I find myself doing the other things. I always say,

Christina Glickman:

Well, why are you doing it, Christina? Okay, I'm doing it

Christina Glickman:

because I want to feel important. I'm doing it because

Christina Glickman:

I want to be liked. And again, no shame, but just a wheel with

Christina Glickman:

yourself. Yeah. And while you're doing it,

Maureen Spielman:

and like you're saying those things are

Maureen Spielman:

ingrained. And sometimes we're just doing them by default. So

Maureen Spielman:

taking that middle step of the why is such a powerful question

Maureen Spielman:

and and being so intentional. On a Sunday with your calendar.

Maureen Spielman:

Yeah. Because then I know, I'm guessing that there's more inner

Maureen Spielman:

peace. And then there's more almost like, almost like clean

Maureen Spielman:

energy to give people you want, including your children and your

Maureen Spielman:

husband, and

Christina Glickman:

there's no dread heaven, we spent enough

Christina Glickman:

time dreading a week. Yeah, like it's funny when when, again, I

Christina Glickman:

don't mean this. To make anyone feel bad, but when when people

Christina Glickman:

talk about like, you know, I got a message from a friend the

Christina Glickman:

other day saying, Oh, my gosh, I can't wait for the weekend, you

Christina Glickman:

know, the only happy two days of my week, right? I was like, Oh,

Christina Glickman:

yeah. And I understand why she got I know, I understand all the

Christina Glickman:

things she has going on. So it's all valid, but it's like, oh, my

Christina Glickman:

gosh, I don't want to wish my days away. Yeah. And again,

Christina Glickman:

don't get me wrong, I get life as hard. I don't like sit on a

Christina Glickman:

rainbow. But in general, I want to have the agency to choose

Christina Glickman:

where I'm putting my time. And and so if in fact, you're in

Christina Glickman:

that moment of time, I guess I would love for everyone to say

Christina Glickman:

how do I get a little bit closer to a little bit more peace?

Christina Glickman:

Because now I don't look at my week and in general dread

Christina Glickman:

anything or wish it away, or I can't wait to get to Friday. And

Christina Glickman:

of course I projects and things that are stressful. But I mean,

Christina Glickman:

in general, there's not like, Oh, I gotta do this. And I got

Christina Glickman:

to do that. I don't have that feeling anymore. And I did for

Christina Glickman:

years. Absolute years. Yes,

Maureen Spielman:

I know. And the transformation is such a

Maureen Spielman:

beautiful thing to see. And when you're just saying, like,

Maureen Spielman:

listen, I know, and I'm not sitting on a rainbow, because I

Maureen Spielman:

know you've gone through challenges, but it's being able

Maureen Spielman:

to sit in those. Yeah. And, and sit really sit and ponder and

Maureen Spielman:

ask the questions of why is this here for me? This is has to be

Maureen Spielman:

something that's contributing to my greater growth, as painful as

Maureen Spielman:

it is. And it's just like the I think you use the word

Maureen Spielman:

curiosity, or just the willingness, the curiosity to

Maureen Spielman:

say, Why is this here? For me? It's here for my growth and

Maureen Spielman:

transformation. Yeah.

Christina Glickman:

Also, I also think, especially as women that

Christina Glickman:

sometimes we need to be reminded, and sometimes it's our

Christina Glickman:

friends that remind us, you have a choice. Right, like we're on

Christina Glickman:

that wheel, and we're doing doing and I mean, it sounds so

Christina Glickman:

silly, but, you know, my husband's on a big travel for

Christina Glickman:

for work. And I had mentioned to my daughter that she you know,

Christina Glickman:

couldn't go to this practice that was important. And I would

Christina Glickman:

never have done that before because I didn't think there was

Christina Glickman:

a choice. I wouldn't want to upset her. I want to be able to

Christina Glickman:

her to do things but it actually was not working for our family

Christina Glickman:

for like 10 reasons. And so I just talked her about and it was

Christina Glickman:

fine. But I don't think before I would have thought I would have

Christina Glickman:

choice. I would have made myself crazy. I would have done all

Christina Glickman:

these crazy things all for this thing. And I stopped myself

Christina Glickman:

often and I say you have a choice. You might not like the

Christina Glickman:

consequences of it or but you have a choice that happening to

Christina Glickman:

me. I I'm creating it.

Maureen Spielman:

Yes, I think that that is the really clear,

Maureen Spielman:

smaller example of rewriting the story than you used to be in and

Maureen Spielman:

I'm, I'm with you, because I'm still learning. My kids are

Maureen Spielman:

older. They're 22. And I'm, I'm learning, communication. I'm

Maureen Spielman:

learning boundaries. I'm learning, investing in my own

Maureen Spielman:

energy. I'm learning worthiness like that's why I will always

Maureen Spielman:

say to anyone listening, let's hold hands and go through this

Maureen Spielman:

together, because we're all human. We're all doing the work.

Maureen Spielman:

And, and we're all figured out. Yeah, we're at different places,

Maureen Spielman:

but we're not. Right.

Unknown:

I couldn't agree with you more.

Maureen Spielman:

Yeah. So I love that because that's

Maureen Spielman:

actually, it's so seemingly, a small choice you made? Yeah, but

Maureen Spielman:

it's not. It's not

Christina Glickman:

done online. But it's a bigger thing, which

Christina Glickman:

is, oh, my gosh, she's a mother, am I not doing all the things I

Christina Glickman:

could be doing for my it unlocks all these crazy things, which is

Christina Glickman:

just ridiculous. But again, I think the ripple effect is

Christina Glickman:

showing if you have children, showing them that how do I think

Christina Glickman:

operate, operate with this authenticity, and a greater good

Christina Glickman:

and how it impacts other people. Like, there's just so much other

Christina Glickman:

beauty to it than being like a martyr. I got to do all these

Christina Glickman:

things, like and I did that for years, like I played that

Christina Glickman:

Cinderella card. I don't think it was on purpose. But that's

Christina Glickman:

just what I did. Now I'm actually embarrassed by an

Christina Glickman:

exhaustion, meaning that's my fault for getting there. Like,

Christina Glickman:

get it in check. And so I'm not like a little bit if things

Christina Glickman:

aren't going well in that way. And please, no, I don't mean

Christina Glickman:

illnesses and things that are very, very traumatic. I mean, in

Christina Glickman:

everyday life, it's like, get it, you know, clean up your side

Christina Glickman:

of the street, get it in check here. And that's a big thing.

Christina Glickman:

And I will just always say, just do one tiny thing. Does that

Christina Glickman:

mean? Maybe you're gonna take shower today? Does that mean?

Christina Glickman:

Maybe you're gonna make an extra cup of coffee for yourself? Does

Christina Glickman:

it mean you might leave a note for your friend? Because you've

Christina Glickman:

been thinking about them? Like, I'm not talking big and

Christina Glickman:

dramatic? I'm talking about the smaller things because today's

Christina Glickman:

it? Like, there's kind of no waiting. There's no like Teddy

Christina Glickman:

Bear parade, magical unicorn rain outside my house like

Christina Glickman:

today, is it? Like we're here?

Maureen Spielman:

Yeah, just take the day, what is going to

Maureen Spielman:

be my choices will be how I play out today. But I love that

Maureen Spielman:

because you know, you just shared a lot. And you are your

Maureen Spielman:

kids can look at you as a woman who's invested in her own

Maureen Spielman:

growth. I mean, what could even be more beautiful. But also back

Maureen Spielman:

to your other point? Your because some things are still

Maureen Spielman:

doing right? You're, you're building your extra love army,

Maureen Spielman:

you're recording your podcast, doing your business coaching,

Maureen Spielman:

but the restoration, the restoration is like the piece

Maureen Spielman:

that we've been missing for a long time. And

Christina Glickman:

not apologizing for it. And that and

Christina Glickman:

that's, you know, that's in my house. We all have to work on it

Christina Glickman:

constantly. Because I've I've sadly trained my children to be

Christina Glickman:

that way. Oh, mama, I'm so sorry. For an eye. Yeah, hey,

Christina Glickman:

when we stop it, and I, I just channeled over instead to say

Christina Glickman:

thank you for waiting, don't apologize. They just say thank

Christina Glickman:

you for waiting, like, try to flip it. And I catch myself too.

Christina Glickman:

But you know, this these are, you know, years and years and

Christina Glickman:

years of systemic issues that we all carry. And I think it just

Christina Glickman:

starts though, in these conversations in our own homes,

Christina Glickman:

slowly as we move through our day. And I think that's how we

Christina Glickman:

impact one another. If it gets bigger than that, then I feel

Christina Glickman:

like I don't even have a role because I can't change anything.

Maureen Spielman:

Yeah, but yeah, I love that. Because also,

Maureen Spielman:

you know, talk about what you've created around the extra love

Maureen Spielman:

arm me because these kinds of conversations and people's real

Maureen Spielman:

experiences, I'm guessing really get to be shared there. And it's

Maureen Spielman:

just like that meeting, meeting you where you're at? Yeah,

Christina Glickman:

it is. And I love that because I always say,

Christina Glickman:

you know, meet me where I'm at, not where you want me to be. And

Christina Glickman:

the extra love army was created during the pandemic. And again,

Christina Glickman:

I always go backwards. I didn't have this grand plan. But it was

Christina Glickman:

during the pandemic where I felt like women were missing

Christina Glickman:

conversation. And so I opened the doors and said, This is

Christina Glickman:

going to be a safe space for women to share about what's

Christina Glickman:

happening in their everyday lives and truly just their own

Christina Glickman:

kind of like a you know, their own hype woman squad, or, or

Christina Glickman:

whatever it might be, whether it was about entrepreneurship or

Christina Glickman:

parenting or motherhood, or, you know, anything and everything.

Christina Glickman:

And so each month we have a theme, whatever it might be, I

Christina Glickman:

don't know what this month's theme. I think this one month's

Christina Glickman:

theme is about like, what are you calling in? And so it's just

Christina Glickman:

a constant conversation that I think women just want to share

Christina Glickman:

with one another in a safe space about whatever it is that

Christina Glickman:

they're trying to do. Or maybe they're walking through grief.

Christina Glickman:

Or maybe they are having a tough time in their relationship.

Christina Glickman:

Because it's all connected. It's your sisterhood. It's what

Christina Glickman:

you're doing here. And the more and more than we create these

Christina Glickman:

containers for all of us, that's a beautiful gift. And people

Christina Glickman:

find their space. And we need more and more. Right?

Maureen Spielman:

We do. I've heard so many people say there

Maureen Spielman:

are 7 billion people on the planet. Why? Right? Yeah, mind

Maureen Spielman:

blowing. So the conversations are so key and crucial. And I

Maureen Spielman:

think redefining the conversations that we're having,

Maureen Spielman:

and, and really, I think a lot of time, when you get in these

Maureen Spielman:

spaces, the conversation can go deep, real fast. And, and

Maureen Spielman:

people, people are craving it, I love that.

Christina Glickman:

And the other thing, just to just to

Christina Glickman:

your audience that I want to remind anybody of whatever

Christina Glickman:

they're doing, whether it's interior design, or whatever it

Christina Glickman:

might be like we need you. And so I always say like I'm a dime

Christina Glickman:

a dozen the things I've been talking about for years now. I

Christina Glickman:

mean, I'm just saying I this is no rocket science here. But what

Christina Glickman:

is different is me, what's different is you what's

Christina Glickman:

different is anybody bringing themselves to the table, and we

Christina Glickman:

need them. And so just a reminder, like, you know,

Christina Glickman:

because again, some of the clients that I work with, like,

Christina Glickman:

Oh, should I do a podcast? Everybody has a podcast, I do a

Christina Glickman:

book everybody, you know, people have books. It's always like,

Christina Glickman:

you have to strip all that away and stay in your own lane and

Christina Glickman:

say, What is your intention and the message that you're hoping

Christina Glickman:

to put out into the world? And is that right for you?

Christina Glickman:

Otherwise, we we've stopped herself before we got off the

Christina Glickman:

block? Yeah, because it right. And that's a very common thing

Christina Glickman:

to do. And so again, I just want to say how proud I am of you of

Christina Glickman:

stepping into this work and doing the things that we all

Christina Glickman:

need? Because we need everybody?

Maureen Spielman:

Yeah. Yeah. I love that. I and I think that to

Maureen Spielman:

your point, everyone's voice is needed. And our voices come from

Maureen Spielman:

our life experiences. Yeah. And everyone's life experience is

Maureen Spielman:

different, we might have commonalities that we can share.

Maureen Spielman:

Yeah, we're so different. And we have different vibrations. And

Maureen Spielman:

yes, different energies will be attracted. But you know, when

Maureen Spielman:

you were saying something earlier about? Well, even your

Maureen Spielman:

your business coaching clients is like, Oh, here's this like a

Maureen Spielman:

array of things you can do. But I found, listen to your

Maureen Spielman:

intuition. Listen to that. Some people call it the small still

Maureen Spielman:

voice sometimes I think it's the big loud voice. Sure, it will

Maureen Spielman:

lead you, it will lead you and it's like, which one are you

Maureen Spielman:

feeling most drawn to? And I was something you said earlier

Maureen Spielman:

about? You know, you could not not do this the work that you

Maureen Spielman:

stepped into. And even though it may even the TED Talk, even

Maureen Spielman:

though it was overwhelming, something was pulling you for

Maureen Spielman:

right. I always think of that as the universe. It's like, calm,

Maureen Spielman:

calm.

Christina Glickman:

and I are having a stage right now of

Christina Glickman:

really practicing listening to what the universe is inviting

Christina Glickman:

in, get trying to get trying to get better at that. But I think

Christina Glickman:

you're right. And the other question I would ask yourself in

Christina Glickman:

general is like, is it harder not to do something than to do

Christina Glickman:

it? Because life's gonna march on anyways? Yeah, so a lot of

Christina Glickman:

times, again, resistance, we have resistance to most

Christina Glickman:

everything and a lot of ways. But that resistance to me is the

Christina Glickman:

invitation to do it. And, and so that's what I try to listen to.

Christina Glickman:

And if I if it's too big, and too, I can't get my head around

Christina Glickman:

it. I always say what's the next next best thing I can do to get

Christina Glickman:

closer to it? I find myself often not knowing how to do it.

Christina Glickman:

Like in general, I'm like, Well, that sounds great. But I don't I

Christina Glickman:

do that like all the time. And so like, what's the first thing

Christina Glickman:

which is usually like a Google because I really don't know how

Christina Glickman:

to do a lot of things. And but again, movement is hope. Right?

Christina Glickman:

So just that little movement is is what makes us like have a

Christina Glickman:

more skipping our step. We actually want to make dinner and

Christina Glickman:

go on with our day, because you're pouring into yourself.

Christina Glickman:

And so many of us don't, because we either don't know what to do,

Christina Glickman:

or maybe we don't really feel that we deserve that or, and to

Christina Glickman:

me, that's just so sad. Like I want every woman to feel a sense

Christina Glickman:

of intention. Absolutely, in some way.

Maureen Spielman:

And that's I think that that's I don't know

Maureen Spielman:

how you got through it when you were preparing for the TED Talk.

Maureen Spielman:

And it was so challenging for you. But the support and the

Maureen Spielman:

groups and the conversations and you're safe people. Yeah,

Maureen Spielman:

they're golden to getting where we need to take the one step

Maureen Spielman:

after the other and that the steps that we take, they're

Maureen Spielman:

invisible to us sometimes. So like you're saying, you know, do

Maureen Spielman:

the self care, do the you know, take care of the little steps.

Maureen Spielman:

Even if it's twice a week, not once a day, no,

Christina Glickman:

sure. Yeah, I mean, we're not we're not

Christina Glickman:

meant to do this alone, that's for sure. And if you are, that's

Christina Glickman:

super hard. And, you know, I think the other thing is that

Christina Glickman:

there is an invisible transformation that happens that

Christina Glickman:

most of the time we don't see until much further down the

Christina Glickman:

road. And at the same time, that's where that universe comes

Christina Glickman:

in for me of saying, I need to trust that my success will be

Christina Glickman:

inevitable, I need to trust that, that what is meant for me

Christina Glickman:

is where I am headed. There's just a lot of trust. And I

Christina Glickman:

always say, the opposite of it really sucks. So let's blow

Christina Glickman:

sunshine up my own self here. I'd rather live in there. I

Christina Glickman:

mean, what's the opposite saying, Oh, that is not meant

Christina Glickman:

for me. It's gonna totally suck. I really think that it's gonna

Christina Glickman:

be okay. I mean, I don't know, there's there's just for me, I

Christina Glickman:

can't operate in a different energy. That makes me not want

Christina Glickman:

to do anything. Yeah. Yeah. And, and I know why we a lot of us

Christina Glickman:

feel that way. But it's doing that work to have that trust, I

Christina Glickman:

guess I say universe, because that's for me spiritually where

Christina Glickman:

I go, but I don't know, I but also, maybe you can give me some

Christina Glickman:

advice. I've also been walking around like looking for signs,

Christina Glickman:

I'm laughing at myself, because I don't really know what that

Christina Glickman:

means. But I'm always like, give me this time.

Maureen Spielman:

And there they are. They just like coming.

Maureen Spielman:

They're coming. They're coming. If you listen to Valerie, what's

Maureen Spielman:

podcast a couple of weeks ago, they are coming. They're there

Maureen Spielman:

for us all the time. And they're there for us when we least

Maureen Spielman:

expect it. And I think that it's being able to also decipher the

Maureen Spielman:

science and that it's almost like a dream. You know, like

Maureen Spielman:

what? Dreams? It's not exactly what it seems like it is right?

Maureen Spielman:

Not the literal interpretation. But yeah, I think the more that

Maureen Spielman:

I say to the universe, I'm open to the signs I start my day that

Maureen Spielman:

way. Yeah. But am I here to know, and I can have a day where

Maureen Spielman:

I don't feel like I see any or hear any or whatever it is. But

Maureen Spielman:

you might also be receiving it in different ways. So for you,

Maureen Spielman:

it might not just be coming through a visual sign that you

Maureen Spielman:

see, you know, on the supermarket grounds, you know,

Maureen Spielman:

something you just went over? It could be you're hearing it, and

Maureen Spielman:

you get your messages that way. So those are signs to I think,

Maureen Spielman:

yeah,

Christina Glickman:

like that. Well, you know, I will say to

Christina Glickman:

that, as I'm sort of, I think like tuning up my spidey senses

Christina Glickman:

to the universe. I also feel like I've been practicing a lot

Christina Glickman:

of grace when, when I when I don't feel settled are familiar

Christina Glickman:

or like it's okay to not be okay, I guess is the thing,

Christina Glickman:

meaning. I trust that my flow will come. So if I wake up one

Christina Glickman:

day, and I'm not in that energy, which we all know when we're not

Christina Glickman:

in that energy. I don't force myself anymore. I just say like,

Christina Glickman:

Okay, so today, like, maybe I haven't an off day, or maybe

Christina Glickman:

today's not feeling whatever reason, and I just kind of like,

Christina Glickman:

let that go with instead, I used to just push, push, push to make

Christina Glickman:

myself be something or do something. And now it's like,

Christina Glickman:

no, I'm like, not feeling it.

Maureen Spielman:

Absolutely. Like, that's why I think that on

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the journey, the reminders to each other, not only for the

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restoration, but for the self compassion. Yeah, that's a big

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one for me, because I had just said it in another recording I

Maureen Spielman:

did. But I spent so many years not knowing what I was doing.

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And I had, I think I did have this deep yearning in me. But I

Maureen Spielman:

was also operating from real survival places within myself.

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And feeling such overwhelmed from early mothering feeling

Maureen Spielman:

like this, like story, like, I don't know what I meant to be

Maureen Spielman:

doing. And it was, oh, it was tough going there for years.

Maureen Spielman:

Yeah. You know, and that was, that was layers of myself that

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through the work, like I've been able to let go of and, and

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really, sort of own you got to Oh, but you also have to have

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that compassion, and I, and I really try to turn that on

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myself and be like, so for those days you're talking about and

Maureen Spielman:

like, just Yeah, yeah, I see you. You need a rest today,

Maureen Spielman:

because that could be all the universes. Dominus?

Christina Glickman:

Yeah. And I think you said something really

Christina Glickman:

important too, which is the idea of like, you know, what's your

Christina Glickman:

story? And what are you meant to do and all those things and that

Christina Glickman:

those are so hard, and I think sometimes can be a very

Christina Glickman:

unmotivated thing. Again, a lot of the women that I work with

Christina Glickman:

sometimes say, like, well, I don't even know why I'm meeting

Christina Glickman:

with you. I don't know what I want to do. I don't know what

Christina Glickman:

I'm doing. And I always say like, we're not trying to figure

Christina Glickman:

that out. We're trying to have movement into the next day space

Christina Glickman:

thing. It's almost like I always like to say, you know, what's

Christina Glickman:

your moment right now, instead of like, what's your story? And

Christina Glickman:

what's your that's so big? I can't answer that. I get

Christina Glickman:

overwhelmed. When somebody says to me, Well, what do you do? I'm

Christina Glickman:

always like, Oh, my God, I get overwhelmed. Right? That's a big

Christina Glickman:

question. And I think, again, that's why your podcast and

Christina Glickman:

talking about this one sentence will change somebody's

Christina Glickman:

narrative. And he heard it from you. And so it just all that

Christina Glickman:

it's all it takes, right, those little moments that we hear that

Christina Glickman:

go, oh, my gosh, remember that person said that, and for

Christina Glickman:

whatever reason that lands on them, didn't land on someone

Christina Glickman:

else. But you being vulnerable enough and courageous enough to

Christina Glickman:

put yourself out there has opened up a narrative that

Christina Glickman:

otherwise wouldn't put a spotlight on a conversation that

Christina Glickman:

really deserves APSET publication.

Maureen Spielman:

Absolutely. Yeah. And I think that we have

Maureen Spielman:

to know that we've all been there because it just reminds

Maureen Spielman:

me, if you would have told me even a year ago, your podcast,

Maureen Spielman:

I'll say No way. Yeah, indeed, I would say that I believe in

Maureen Spielman:

infinite possibilities. But more there were just parts of myself

Maureen Spielman:

that I had to get really comfortable with. And the whole

Maureen Spielman:

kind of stepping out onto any sort of platform, even something

Maureen Spielman:

like social media can feel revealing to ourselves. So have

Maureen Spielman:

the conversations in with your safe people in your safe places.

Maureen Spielman:

Create the safety within you to know that you're okay. You're

Maureen Spielman:

You're perfect as you are. And the world needs you. It at the

Maureen Spielman:

planet needs you. Yeah, sure does. Yeah. Well, I love that.

Maureen Spielman:

Christina, is there anything else that comes to mind? Before

Maureen Spielman:

we wrap up today?

Christina Glickman:

No, I feel like we were kind of all over

Christina Glickman:

the place. But I love that. And I think if anything for, you

Christina Glickman:

know, for your audience, and this, this circle that you have

Christina Glickman:

created and are creating, you know, I would just encourage and

Christina Glickman:

invite others to bring somebody with you. And it's vulnerable

Christina Glickman:

for even people to participate in conversation. And so, you

Christina Glickman:

know, look outside yourself, and maybe lend a hand to somebody

Christina Glickman:

that might need to be invited into something. Because I think

Christina Glickman:

that we all are craving, as you said, these deep connections

Christina Glickman:

right now,

Maureen Spielman:

I love that too. Because with the deep need

Maureen Spielman:

of the world right now, it is the it is the multiplying and

Maureen Spielman:

the exponential. And that's I mean, I, I'm gonna say to the

Maureen Spielman:

listeners to please, you know, I'm gonna have you share

Maureen Spielman:

Christina, but check Christina's work out through her podcast,

Maureen Spielman:

through her book through, you know, anywhere you can find her

Maureen Spielman:

because I love the podcast and your bite size, it's you taking

Maureen Spielman:

on a concept and infusing your experience with it, and then

Maureen Spielman:

sharing the wisdom that came from it. And it's, it's really

Maureen Spielman:

fun to listen to. And that's where i That's why I'm so

Maureen Spielman:

attracted to you too, because you've got the the foundation of

Maureen Spielman:

mystical sister hood is joy and healing and community and that

Maureen Spielman:

those two things can co occur. I really believe they can. And

Maureen Spielman:

that was born out of my health journey. And I'm like, Yes, I

Maureen Spielman:

want them both. I want to do the healing work. I was a joy. So

Maureen Spielman:

you

Christina Glickman:

get to write Yeah, not just but isn't it

Christina Glickman:

funny. And the last thing I'll say where you started in your

Christina Glickman:

journey, right? And where you thought you were headed, and you

Christina Glickman:

were wise enough to expand and grow and be around the right

Christina Glickman:

people. And so it's kind of like, Don't ever stop that

Christina Glickman:

curiosity, right. Don't ever think that either we can't or

Christina Glickman:

right. And again, the only way that we I think have competence

Christina Glickman:

to do this when we're surrounding ourselves by people

Christina Glickman:

like you appro quite vital. So thank you for that. You do. And

Christina Glickman:

thanks for having me today. Yes.

Maureen Spielman:

So where can people find you, Christine?

Maureen Spielman:

Where can

Christina Glickman:

they find me? They I won't go down the

Christina Glickman:

some of the places they can't find me these days. But you can

Christina Glickman:

find me on Facebook. You can find me on LinkedIn, you can

Christina Glickman:

find me through my podcast, as Maureen had mentioned, probably

Christina Glickman:

will be in the show notes or something. And I have a weekly

Christina Glickman:

newsletter. So you can always subscribe to that. And you know,

Christina Glickman:

the blogs find each other

Maureen Spielman:

beautiful. So I'll put it all in the show

Maureen Spielman:

notes. I have to say a huge thank you. It's been so fun to

Maureen Spielman:

talk to you today. So enlightening, and thanks so

Maureen Spielman:

much. My pleasure is mine. Thanks for listening to this

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episode of mystical sisterhood. If you love what you heard,

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please visit Apple podcasts and subscribe and leave a review and

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