Christina Glickman is an accomplished author, momma, speaker and entrepreneur. And at the heart of it all, she is a woman creating sacred spaces for conscious conversations that support and inspire. This week’s deep dive conversation is with Christina Glickman, founder of Xtra Love Army and creator of the TEDx talk “Reclaiming Our Voice. Women - Ones You’ve Been Waiting For”. In this soulful interview, Christina sheds light on what women lost during the pandemic and what they found community in the form of each other. She is such an avid supporter of women living out their dreams and as a business coach, guides them to bring their true heart’s desire to life. The world simply is calling for more of her energy and light. Take a listen, I have a feeling you will love.

EPISODE TAKEAWAYS:

• Christina’s shift from the hustle to the flow
• Why nothing really trumps human connection and our collective energy
• Mothering and how it fits into Christina’s overall life vision
• The creation of a TEDx talk as the both/and: a major milestone and one of the most exhausting times of her life
• The purpose of sharing of our stories: as a way of inspiring others and creating true soul connections with one another
• Acknowledgment of the new way of doing business - we are more powerful together

About the Guest:

Christina Glickman is a TEDx speaker, host of the podcast Xtra: Life & Style Unscripted, best selling author of the book, Xtra: The Art of being, founder of the movement the Xtra Love Army and was recently featured in Elle and Harper's Bazaar for the Best Street Style looks from the Paris Fashion week shows. She is a mother of four and lives to champion others to show up in life unapologetically, to live a life XTRA.

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About the Host:

Maureen Spielman is the Founder of Mystical Sisterhood, a podcast dedicated to bringing more joy, healing and expansion to the world. She is a seasoned life coach who supports individuals through one-on-one coaching, groups and workshops.

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Hey there, welcome to mystical sisterhood.

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in the episode. All right. Welcome to mystical sisterhood.

I'm your host, Maureen Spielman. And I'm so excited to be with

Christina Glickman, today, I met Christina years ago, as we were,

I was starting a business, she was already an entrepreneur, and

she guided and mentored me. But, Christina, I think you so

succinctly, in your sort of like tagline, under your signature,

kind of say what you do, and I'm just gonna read it. You have

mother, TEDx, speaker, author, podcaster, and you're the

founder of extra love army. So I'm just gonna, I just wanted to

share that with our audience, because it was just so simple,

the way you have it written out. And I want to touch upon all

those things today. And I think our conversation is going to go

a lot of places, when I think of you, I think of a woman who is

an absolute 1,000% champion of other women, you live life,

unabashedly as yourself, you show up in such a real way, with

people that I think it creates a safety and really sacred space

for them. So those are just just some beginning, introduction

points I want to make for you. Christina also has a book called

extra, the art of being it's a beautiful, I don't even know how

to explain it. Coffee Table Book, with your fashions, and

your take on life. And again, you've got this way of doing

these things that simple, it's straightforward. And it just, I

just think it speaks to people. You're now I'm having a weekly

podcast called Extra Life and style unscripted. So we're gonna

talk about that, because what you say about living life,

unscripted, might say, at all, not sure. And then you have a

TEDx talk. And those are just some of the things that you've

got going on. But I want to welcome you here today and say,

I'm so grateful to be in your energy and your presence, and

how you doing?

Oh, my gosh, thank you for having me. Those

are such nice words. I just adore everything you're doing.

And thank you for opening the container for so many women to

hear about the conversations that you've been having for

years. And so for me, just as your friend watching you

completely come alive in this new type of business. It's just

such a joy. So I'm honored to be here and privileged to be with

your community and your sisterhood. And I love

everything you're doing. And can I just say, as a fan of yours,

like keep doing it? Like keep keep, keep introducing us to

people? I was just about to press play on the one that you

were talking about yesterday? Because there's so many I can't

even pronounce the word, the recording what that word is

within a I think the Akashic Record. Yeah, yeah. I don't know

what that is. It's like how beautiful that you're

introducing us to so many things. So just thank you as a

fan of your work. And I am excited about our conversation

today. And hopefully, we can, you know, have some insightful

chat, hear about all the work that you do.

Thank you so much, Christina. And I think

that's right. I think that for the people that I'm having on

first these concepts, and they're they all are new

learnings to me at some point, too. So you know, we're all

overlapping and layering on what we know. And it's amazing. You

just said something about, I don't know how you just said it,

but it was like a new way of doing business or this new way

of entrepreneurship here. Why don't we start

there? Sure. I mean, absolutely. And I think

it's because as of late, I really talked about my life and

for others as us being life entrepreneurs, meaning that

we're equally ambitious professionally as we are

personally. And so I think If you have a sense of curiosity

and wonder, and always knowing that the person you're talking

to has something to teach you, and just sort of being open to

that presence, for me is how a new kind of entrepreneurship was

born. Because I think before, for me, it was always about the

chase and the hustle and the accolades, and the success and

the productivity and all the things that programmed me that I

identified with that made me feel worthwhile and valuable.

And it's taken me years to sort of shed that skin to understand

that all of those sort of mechanics and pieces of it

really don't make my identity and, and that it takes a lot of

work. I'm still working on it, I think I'll be working on it

forever. But I think the moment that we released some of those

badges, if you will, then we are able to become entrepreneurs of

our own passion and joy. And because again, we all know that

operating with anxiety and fear is exhausting. And it's the same

that holds true for operating without our authentic self.

Because, you know, if I come on to this podcast, and I think,

oh, my gosh, I want to be as great as Marine, I'm going to

fail already, because I'm not you. And instead if I can come

on and say, I'm just bringing my whole self and my intention is

pure, and I hope that something I say lands on someone to has to

be enough.

Oh, I love that. Yes, yes. And our pieces

come together, and they complement one another. Yeah. I

like what you said about this concept. I have not heard that

of life entrepreneur. Because when I started, I said, the

first thing you say, in that tagline is Mother, you know, so

the old version of the entrepreneur would be like,

what's your business? What do you serve to your business? You

know how much money you're gonna make through it. But then you

start with mother. So that to me, says, oh, that's part of

that life entrepreneur, that's it's got its Christina is not

just not only the extra love army, she's much bigger than

that.

And I used to, I used to fight against so

many. And I think a lot of a lot of the people listening will

understand. I used to fight against so many of those badges

because they did give me a comfort of who I was right. So

so you know, if I'm not a mother, what am I if I'm not a

working woman or an entrepreneur, what am I? And

I've realized, and I'm sure you have to that, you know, we're

many things right, were a bunch of hands. And that's a beautiful

thing. And as I sort of learned the power of reflection, I'm

understanding why I've done certain things in my life. And I

will never think any step is a mistake or a regret. I think

it's all about the journey about who we are. But even when I look

back in the past couple years of my life, I think there's certain

moves I made because my ego needed them, or I needed the

credibility or validity to feel like I was important enough. And

so I feel like the older I get, and the more work I do, the more

I also realize that the here and now in the moment I'm in and the

work I'm doing like, again, it's exactly where I'm supposed to be

and the universe isn't gonna miss me. And I just am very,

very aware that the only energy that I want to chase is peace. I

don't want to chase anything else, because I did it for so

many years. Right. And I also don't judge anyone that's in

that moment of, of hustle or energy because it gets you to

where you are. And hopefully, if we talked in five more years,

I'd be like, I don't even know who that person was, you know,

in the greenery coat. Because I hope that we're always, you

know, evolving and changing in that way.

I love that. And I think that that we can see

at the versions of the woman, the human that we were before we

see it in one another. Yeah. So I think as we kind of settle

into this new way of being with women, look where this group is,

my listeners are a lot of women identified. And I think that

we're settling into this newer way of being where it's like,

okay, we can we can put the hustle down. We can't and it's

instilled, there's a lot on the outer, that's telling us we need

to we need to chase it, we need to go for it. And it's up to us

to make that decision. But I think like sitting in these

circles sitting in these conversations where we're like,

No, I see you. I've been there. Even if I haven't been there,

I'm here for you. I'm to witness you to see your healing to see

your growth and your transformation.

I mean, and I think that that's what you hit

upon, which is that I don't think anything's ever going to

trump that power of human connection. And so by you

opening up the container for all of us to have a discussion what

it's what it's saying is the age old. I see you, I hear you, I

validate you, I've been there, you've been there. So I think

you're just kind of giving voice to the fact that you're not

alone. And we are all trying to do something with parenting or

something with an illness or something. It doesn't matter.

But I think that the power of storytelling is so extreme and

I, you know, as I've sort of thought about for myself, you

know, I'll ask myself often like, Well, what do you do? And

who are you? And what are you doing. And I think for me, it

will always be that thread of, through the through storytelling

of my own and other women, and especially women, I feel that it

ultimately transformed somebody into thinking or being or doing

differently. And, and whether or not somebody is in a position

where they hear a story, and they want to do something

different with their lives, or just makes them feel better. I

also feel like we come in and out of when we're ready to hear

a story. So that's why you know, you and I talking about whatever

if the same topic is confidence, or whatever it might be, we need

you. And that's why there's always room for everyone to open

the circle, because that is why I love to champion, especially

women so much is because everyone has something to share,

if you're willing to share it. And so, the idea being if I tell

you a story, or I tell you somebody else's, you're probably

gonna see something of yourself in it. And it's gonna make you

feel better. Yeah. And isn't that what we're just trying to

do every day? It's kind of simple, but it's also really

hard.

Absolutely, yeah. And it reminds me of just

re listening to your, your TED talk, I'm just gonna go there

for a moment. Because that that started out with storytelling.

Yeah, and I know, that's something that you greatly

prepared for, and put so much love and energy to, and I just

gonna say just as a little side, that your message of extra and

extra love is so felt, and so needed. And that delivery of

love, and it was no accident that I'm on my way to school

today, dropping my son, the car in front of me had two stickers

that said, Love on this bumper today. But tell our audience

about how did this TEDx talk about? What was that topic you

chose?

Sure. And I love to talk about Ted. But it's

funny, I like to talk about Ted about the journey of it. And so

I feel like insert yourself into the story. Forget about Ted,

like, who cares if you want to do something like that great. If

you don't, who cares? The idea is just about, I truly became

somebody else through the process. And the end of the

result, for me was a feeling of that there was no place I don't

belong. And I couldn't, it has nothing to do with the

accomplishment of a TED Talk. It has everything to do with the

moment that I said, I think I want to do this. And so to kind

of like reverse a little bit, you know, I had about five years

ago decided that I needed more creativity in my life. And, and

I knew there's something more I wanted to do is I think a lot of

women just always like there's something else for me to do. And

again, to be clear, you don't have to, like start a business

or do something wild. But there's usually an ache of

something else that like, you know, what I was meant to do a

little bit more here than maybe parenting or we're not quite as

fulfilled as we'd like to be. And so for me, it was through

the filter of creativity. And out of that became the book and

a few things well cut to, I felt that I had a message burning

inside of me that I ultimately wanted women to sort of stand up

and understand that they have more to give if they're willing

to do it. And because we were in this pandemic world, the TED

talk is about women reclaiming their voices, and finding their

identity in the pandemic, because I think we've all seen

the articles that there's been this rally cry for women that we

are the ones that have suffered greatly during the pandemic. And

you know, you've got millions of women that left the workforce

and never came back. And I don't want to get into that rabbit

hole. But the reality is that you are then taking out of the

equation of our society, incredible minds, women that

were at tables that are no longer there, whether it's in

innovations or so. So we all took a step back. So the idea of

the talk was to just tap you on the shoulder and be like, hey,

like, I see you too. And it's not over. And by the way, all

those women that got us here aren't going to be too pleased

if the rest of us don't keep going. Right. Right. And so that

was the the hope of that talk. But the real journey of that

was, I think, and just from my personal standpoint, that

because I was on this sort of career path of being a speaker.

I felt like I needed TED to feel important. I felt like I needed

to say I'm a TEDx speaker. That was my original ego driven goal

of it. And I knew how hard it was to achieve and I wanted that

really bad. And so when I for me, I had to go through this

interview process and that was all difficult. But the funny

part is by the time I got to the very end of that red.it was no

longer even about that Tada moment anymore. It was all about

the fact that it was so hard for me. I wanted to give 1000 times,

I was like, why am I doing this, all those things and, you know,

the ripple effect of my children being able to see me putting

myself out there. And, you know, if you've talked to people that

have done Ted it, for some reason, even as somebody that's

a speaker, it is the most vulnerable thing you can do,

because you're up there without a piece of paper in hand, and

it's just you. And it was different because it's your

story. And there's just something different about it.

But but to kind of get back to your question a little bit. I

think the biggest thing i'd love people to take away from Ted is,

if you want something, try to go for it, whatever it is. And in,

it's not actually about getting it. It's about just saying yes

to yourself, and I share with my community along the way, how

difficult it was to go through that process. And I would get

messages from people saying, you know, it's so great to see you

put yourself out there, maybe now I'll go try to get that

position at XYZ. So, again, it's the story of when we share one

another, that makes me say, you can do it. Well, I can do it,

too.

Yeah. And I think a lot of people saying

that, you know, you'll always hear that. If I can do it. You

can do Yeah, yeah, I think like, yeah, right. We it seems so easy

to you, right? Of course that was, but you're saying no, the

process was actually, it was pretty intense. No,

I mean, it was awful. It was awful. And,

and I mean, I was like praying for COVID to hit so that it

would be shut down. Like that's how much I didn't want to do it

anymore. And I and nothing that good comes that easy, right?

Even when you think it is. And the other thing that I also

wanted to just have other people feel is that everything's

available to you? Yes. So if you don't think it is, I'm sorry,

but it's an excuse. Because if you want it, you're gonna get

it, and you're gonna do it. And so you're hiding behind it. And

whatever the reality is, and so making movement towards whatever

that goal is, because that is for me, I think the thing that

makes me craziest is that, you know, we have one life here,

period. And are you creating life? Or are you letting life

create you? And I don't want to go through the motions. I don't

want to just wake up in five years and say, Well, what just

happened? Yes.

And five years went by, I had seen a quote the

other day, I'm not going to get it right. But it was on social

media. And someone said, like, make sure you're in the rooms,

with the people having the conversations that bring you

higher, and that's the work you're doing. And I even think

like a conversation like this, is that so? Oh, yes, give the

permission that sometimes we don't know we can give

ourselves. Yeah, and I think

it also, it also starts with, for me getting

very real in the past few years. And I know this will resonate

with you about protecting my energy. And I didn't realize

that commodity I was giving away so freely. And so I started to

do this thing every week, which I do every Sunday called the IQ

test. And I have a paper calendar because I'm like a

dinosaur and archaic and I like to see things written out. And I

sit there and I look at my week and I say what are the things

that make my stomach hurt? Like, what is on my calendar that I

don't want to do? Now again, it's life. I know, we have

things we don't want to do. But in general, am I saying yes to a

coffee that doesn't like fill my soul? Because I'm just sitting

there asking the questions and not receiving anything back? Am

I Am I saying yes to volunteering, because I don't

want somebody to think I'm not a nice person. Am I? What am I

doing in my life that is getting me further away from how I want

to feel at the end of the day, because that's how I've

transferred my brain like it's no longer what did I get done

today? Or how productive I was. It's like I don't want to feel

at the end of the day. And for me, I always want to feel, first

of all that the people that I love know that I love them. Like

that's never as generic as it is. It's never gonna go away.

Some days. I'm not so good at it. Some days I'm good at you

know, so it's a balance, but going through that now has

changed my life dramatically. Because when I look at my week

ahead, like, again, not to sound funny. I adore you. I love the

work you're doing I get to be on your podcast, which is an honor

and privilege for me. I wouldn't have said yes. If I didn't feel

that. Yeah. Whereas before, I would just say yes, yes, yes,

yes. Yes. Yes. Now, it's like, no, I look forward to it. I

can't wait to spend time with you. And so I always say now

that if I'm with you, you know, I really want to be there.

Right? Yeah, no question.

I love I love the practice. I similarly, I

have been on that journey. And man, I just say it's not always

easy to to guard your time as that resource. Your energy is

that resource and I think is we are stepping into more and more

worthiness and then we'll see a rise in that as well. That's

been my experience and I was always the classic over giver

and I know so many listening. Oh identify It's like,

it's like in our DNA. And, and the reality

is, though, if you if you stop for a moment and you say to

yourself, one, who am I surrounding myself with? And

where? And are they draining my energy? Or are they adding value

to it? Or this is not a selfish thing? Doesn't mean you can't be

there for a friend and listen for an hour. It has nothing to

do with you. It's not about that it's about we're probably

putting it in the wrong places. Yes. And then ask yourself why,

okay, because I want to be liked, or I want to, and again,

there's no, there's no shame here, there's no, we're not

doing anything wrong. But there's also this idea,

especially as women that we need to fill the space, like, if you

had a day where you weren't running around, you'd think

you're gonna fill it. But the reality is that you also don't

have to explain your time away, like your times your time. So it

doesn't have to, you don't have to deserve an earn it like, oh,

my gosh, I'm gonna get a massage tomorrow, because I worked so

hard last week, and I don't know, like, I'm loving of this

as it is, for me, that's all just a retraining. I don't It's

not how I operate. I, I sort of, I always wanted to be that I

like I said in my TED talk, the Real Life series, I wanted you

to know that I was valuable and important and available. And

that's how I pride. I used to pride myself, and I want you to

think that I am so busy, and I've got so much going on. And I

have got that gave me worse. And so now when people sometimes

leave me a message and say, Oh, I know you're so busy. I'm like,

No, I'm actually not so busy. I'm doing what I love my time

now I've got a lot of things going on. But they're all things

I love to do. It's beautiful. And again, I check myself

though, when I find myself doing the other things. I always say,

Well, why are you doing it, Christina? Okay, I'm doing it

because I want to feel important. I'm doing it because

I want to be liked. And again, no shame, but just a wheel with

yourself. Yeah. And while you're doing it,

and like you're saying those things are

ingrained. And sometimes we're just doing them by default. So

taking that middle step of the why is such a powerful question

and and being so intentional. On a Sunday with your calendar.

Yeah. Because then I know, I'm guessing that there's more inner

peace. And then there's more almost like, almost like clean

energy to give people you want, including your children and your

husband, and

there's no dread heaven, we spent enough

time dreading a week. Yeah, like it's funny when when, again, I

don't mean this. To make anyone feel bad, but when when people

talk about like, you know, I got a message from a friend the

other day saying, Oh, my gosh, I can't wait for the weekend, you

know, the only happy two days of my week, right? I was like, Oh,

yeah. And I understand why she got I know, I understand all the

things she has going on. So it's all valid, but it's like, oh, my

gosh, I don't want to wish my days away. Yeah. And again,

don't get me wrong, I get life as hard. I don't like sit on a

rainbow. But in general, I want to have the agency to choose

where I'm putting my time. And and so if in fact, you're in

that moment of time, I guess I would love for everyone to say

how do I get a little bit closer to a little bit more peace?

Because now I don't look at my week and in general dread

anything or wish it away, or I can't wait to get to Friday. And

of course I projects and things that are stressful. But I mean,

in general, there's not like, Oh, I gotta do this. And I got

to do that. I don't have that feeling anymore. And I did for

years. Absolute years. Yes,

I know. And the transformation is such a

beautiful thing to see. And when you're just saying, like,

listen, I know, and I'm not sitting on a rainbow, because I

know you've gone through challenges, but it's being able

to sit in those. Yeah. And, and sit really sit and ponder and

ask the questions of why is this here for me? This is has to be

something that's contributing to my greater growth, as painful as

it is. And it's just like the I think you use the word

curiosity, or just the willingness, the curiosity to

say, Why is this here? For me? It's here for my growth and

transformation. Yeah.

Also, I also think, especially as women that

sometimes we need to be reminded, and sometimes it's our

friends that remind us, you have a choice. Right, like we're on

that wheel, and we're doing doing and I mean, it sounds so

silly, but, you know, my husband's on a big travel for

for work. And I had mentioned to my daughter that she you know,

couldn't go to this practice that was important. And I would

never have done that before because I didn't think there was

a choice. I wouldn't want to upset her. I want to be able to

her to do things but it actually was not working for our family

for like 10 reasons. And so I just talked her about and it was

fine. But I don't think before I would have thought I would have

choice. I would have made myself crazy. I would have done all

these crazy things all for this thing. And I stopped myself

often and I say you have a choice. You might not like the

consequences of it or but you have a choice that happening to

me. I I'm creating it.

Yes, I think that that is the really clear,

smaller example of rewriting the story than you used to be in and

I'm, I'm with you, because I'm still learning. My kids are

older. They're 22. And I'm, I'm learning, communication. I'm

learning boundaries. I'm learning, investing in my own

energy. I'm learning worthiness like that's why I will always

say to anyone listening, let's hold hands and go through this

together, because we're all human. We're all doing the work.

And, and we're all figured out. Yeah, we're at different places,

but we're not. Right.

I couldn't agree with you more.

Yeah. So I love that because that's

actually, it's so seemingly, a small choice you made? Yeah, but

it's not. It's not

done online. But it's a bigger thing, which

is, oh, my gosh, she's a mother, am I not doing all the things I

could be doing for my it unlocks all these crazy things, which is

just ridiculous. But again, I think the ripple effect is

showing if you have children, showing them that how do I think

operate, operate with this authenticity, and a greater good

and how it impacts other people. Like, there's just so much other

beauty to it than being like a martyr. I got to do all these

things, like and I did that for years, like I played that

Cinderella card. I don't think it was on purpose. But that's

just what I did. Now I'm actually embarrassed by an

exhaustion, meaning that's my fault for getting there. Like,

get it in check. And so I'm not like a little bit if things

aren't going well in that way. And please, no, I don't mean

illnesses and things that are very, very traumatic. I mean, in

everyday life, it's like, get it, you know, clean up your side

of the street, get it in check here. And that's a big thing.

And I will just always say, just do one tiny thing. Does that

mean? Maybe you're gonna take shower today? Does that mean?

Maybe you're gonna make an extra cup of coffee for yourself? Does

it mean you might leave a note for your friend? Because you've

been thinking about them? Like, I'm not talking big and

dramatic? I'm talking about the smaller things because today's

it? Like, there's kind of no waiting. There's no like Teddy

Bear parade, magical unicorn rain outside my house like

today, is it? Like we're here?

Yeah, just take the day, what is going to

be my choices will be how I play out today. But I love that

because you know, you just shared a lot. And you are your

kids can look at you as a woman who's invested in her own

growth. I mean, what could even be more beautiful. But also back

to your other point? Your because some things are still

doing right? You're, you're building your extra love army,

you're recording your podcast, doing your business coaching,

but the restoration, the restoration is like the piece

that we've been missing for a long time. And

not apologizing for it. And that and

that's, you know, that's in my house. We all have to work on it

constantly. Because I've I've sadly trained my children to be

that way. Oh, mama, I'm so sorry. For an eye. Yeah, hey,

when we stop it, and I, I just channeled over instead to say

thank you for waiting, don't apologize. They just say thank

you for waiting, like, try to flip it. And I catch myself too.

But you know, this these are, you know, years and years and

years of systemic issues that we all carry. And I think it just

starts though, in these conversations in our own homes,

slowly as we move through our day. And I think that's how we

impact one another. If it gets bigger than that, then I feel

like I don't even have a role because I can't change anything.

Yeah, but yeah, I love that. Because also,

you know, talk about what you've created around the extra love

arm me because these kinds of conversations and people's real

experiences, I'm guessing really get to be shared there. And it's

just like that meeting, meeting you where you're at? Yeah,

it is. And I love that because I always say,

you know, meet me where I'm at, not where you want me to be. And

the extra love army was created during the pandemic. And again,

I always go backwards. I didn't have this grand plan. But it was

during the pandemic where I felt like women were missing

conversation. And so I opened the doors and said, This is

going to be a safe space for women to share about what's

happening in their everyday lives and truly just their own

kind of like a you know, their own hype woman squad, or, or

whatever it might be, whether it was about entrepreneurship or

parenting or motherhood, or, you know, anything and everything.

And so each month we have a theme, whatever it might be, I

don't know what this month's theme. I think this one month's

theme is about like, what are you calling in? And so it's just

a constant conversation that I think women just want to share

with one another in a safe space about whatever it is that

they're trying to do. Or maybe they're walking through grief.

Or maybe they are having a tough time in their relationship.

Because it's all connected. It's your sisterhood. It's what

you're doing here. And the more and more than we create these

containers for all of us, that's a beautiful gift. And people

find their space. And we need more and more. Right?

We do. I've heard so many people say there

are 7 billion people on the planet. Why? Right? Yeah, mind

blowing. So the conversations are so key and crucial. And I

think redefining the conversations that we're having,

and, and really, I think a lot of time, when you get in these

spaces, the conversation can go deep, real fast. And, and

people, people are craving it, I love that.

And the other thing, just to just to

your audience that I want to remind anybody of whatever

they're doing, whether it's interior design, or whatever it

might be like we need you. And so I always say like I'm a dime

a dozen the things I've been talking about for years now. I

mean, I'm just saying I this is no rocket science here. But what

is different is me, what's different is you what's

different is anybody bringing themselves to the table, and we

need them. And so just a reminder, like, you know,

because again, some of the clients that I work with, like,

Oh, should I do a podcast? Everybody has a podcast, I do a

book everybody, you know, people have books. It's always like,

you have to strip all that away and stay in your own lane and

say, What is your intention and the message that you're hoping

to put out into the world? And is that right for you?

Otherwise, we we've stopped herself before we got off the

block? Yeah, because it right. And that's a very common thing

to do. And so again, I just want to say how proud I am of you of

stepping into this work and doing the things that we all

need? Because we need everybody?

Yeah. Yeah. I love that. I and I think that to

your point, everyone's voice is needed. And our voices come from

our life experiences. Yeah. And everyone's life experience is

different, we might have commonalities that we can share.

Yeah, we're so different. And we have different vibrations. And

yes, different energies will be attracted. But you know, when

you were saying something earlier about? Well, even your

your business coaching clients is like, Oh, here's this like a

array of things you can do. But I found, listen to your

intuition. Listen to that. Some people call it the small still

voice sometimes I think it's the big loud voice. Sure, it will

lead you, it will lead you and it's like, which one are you

feeling most drawn to? And I was something you said earlier

about? You know, you could not not do this the work that you

stepped into. And even though it may even the TED Talk, even

though it was overwhelming, something was pulling you for

right. I always think of that as the universe. It's like, calm,

calm.

and I are having a stage right now of

really practicing listening to what the universe is inviting

in, get trying to get trying to get better at that. But I think

you're right. And the other question I would ask yourself in

general is like, is it harder not to do something than to do

it? Because life's gonna march on anyways? Yeah, so a lot of

times, again, resistance, we have resistance to most

everything and a lot of ways. But that resistance to me is the

invitation to do it. And, and so that's what I try to listen to.

And if I if it's too big, and too, I can't get my head around

it. I always say what's the next next best thing I can do to get

closer to it? I find myself often not knowing how to do it.

Like in general, I'm like, Well, that sounds great. But I don't I

do that like all the time. And so like, what's the first thing

which is usually like a Google because I really don't know how

to do a lot of things. And but again, movement is hope. Right?

So just that little movement is is what makes us like have a

more skipping our step. We actually want to make dinner and

go on with our day, because you're pouring into yourself.

And so many of us don't, because we either don't know what to do,

or maybe we don't really feel that we deserve that or, and to

me, that's just so sad. Like I want every woman to feel a sense

of intention. Absolutely, in some way.

And that's I think that that's I don't know

how you got through it when you were preparing for the TED Talk.

And it was so challenging for you. But the support and the

groups and the conversations and you're safe people. Yeah,

they're golden to getting where we need to take the one step

after the other and that the steps that we take, they're

invisible to us sometimes. So like you're saying, you know, do

the self care, do the you know, take care of the little steps.

Even if it's twice a week, not once a day, no,

sure. Yeah, I mean, we're not we're not

meant to do this alone, that's for sure. And if you are, that's

super hard. And, you know, I think the other thing is that

there is an invisible transformation that happens that

most of the time we don't see until much further down the

road. And at the same time, that's where that universe comes

in for me of saying, I need to trust that my success will be

inevitable, I need to trust that, that what is meant for me

is where I am headed. There's just a lot of trust. And I

always say, the opposite of it really sucks. So let's blow

sunshine up my own self here. I'd rather live in there. I

mean, what's the opposite saying, Oh, that is not meant

for me. It's gonna totally suck. I really think that it's gonna

be okay. I mean, I don't know, there's there's just for me, I

can't operate in a different energy. That makes me not want

to do anything. Yeah. Yeah. And, and I know why we a lot of us

feel that way. But it's doing that work to have that trust, I

guess I say universe, because that's for me spiritually where

I go, but I don't know, I but also, maybe you can give me some

advice. I've also been walking around like looking for signs,

I'm laughing at myself, because I don't really know what that

means. But I'm always like, give me this time.

And there they are. They just like coming.

They're coming. They're coming. If you listen to Valerie, what's

podcast a couple of weeks ago, they are coming. They're there

for us all the time. And they're there for us when we least

expect it. And I think that it's being able to also decipher the

science and that it's almost like a dream. You know, like

what? Dreams? It's not exactly what it seems like it is right?

Not the literal interpretation. But yeah, I think the more that

I say to the universe, I'm open to the signs I start my day that

way. Yeah. But am I here to know, and I can have a day where

I don't feel like I see any or hear any or whatever it is. But

you might also be receiving it in different ways. So for you,

it might not just be coming through a visual sign that you

see, you know, on the supermarket grounds, you know,

something you just went over? It could be you're hearing it, and

you get your messages that way. So those are signs to I think,

yeah,

like that. Well, you know, I will say to

that, as I'm sort of, I think like tuning up my spidey senses

to the universe. I also feel like I've been practicing a lot

of grace when, when I when I don't feel settled are familiar

or like it's okay to not be okay, I guess is the thing,

meaning. I trust that my flow will come. So if I wake up one

day, and I'm not in that energy, which we all know when we're not

in that energy. I don't force myself anymore. I just say like,

Okay, so today, like, maybe I haven't an off day, or maybe

today's not feeling whatever reason, and I just kind of like,

let that go with instead, I used to just push, push, push to make

myself be something or do something. And now it's like,

no, I'm like, not feeling it.

Absolutely. Like, that's why I think that on

the journey, the reminders to each other, not only for the

restoration, but for the self compassion. Yeah, that's a big

one for me, because I had just said it in another recording I

did. But I spent so many years not knowing what I was doing.

And I had, I think I did have this deep yearning in me. But I

was also operating from real survival places within myself.

And feeling such overwhelmed from early mothering feeling

like this, like story, like, I don't know what I meant to be

doing. And it was, oh, it was tough going there for years.

Yeah. You know, and that was, that was layers of myself that

through the work, like I've been able to let go of and, and

really, sort of own you got to Oh, but you also have to have

that compassion, and I, and I really try to turn that on

myself and be like, so for those days you're talking about and

like, just Yeah, yeah, I see you. You need a rest today,

because that could be all the universes. Dominus?

Yeah. And I think you said something really

important too, which is the idea of like, you know, what's your

story? And what are you meant to do and all those things and that

those are so hard, and I think sometimes can be a very

unmotivated thing. Again, a lot of the women that I work with

sometimes say, like, well, I don't even know why I'm meeting

with you. I don't know what I want to do. I don't know what

I'm doing. And I always say like, we're not trying to figure

that out. We're trying to have movement into the next day space

thing. It's almost like I always like to say, you know, what's

your moment right now, instead of like, what's your story? And

what's your that's so big? I can't answer that. I get

overwhelmed. When somebody says to me, Well, what do you do? I'm

always like, Oh, my God, I get overwhelmed. Right? That's a big

question. And I think, again, that's why your podcast and

talking about this one sentence will change somebody's

narrative. And he heard it from you. And so it just all that

it's all it takes, right, those little moments that we hear that

go, oh, my gosh, remember that person said that, and for

whatever reason that lands on them, didn't land on someone

else. But you being vulnerable enough and courageous enough to

put yourself out there has opened up a narrative that

otherwise wouldn't put a spotlight on a conversation that

really deserves APSET publication.

Absolutely. Yeah. And I think that we have

to know that we've all been there because it just reminds

me, if you would have told me even a year ago, your podcast,

I'll say No way. Yeah, indeed, I would say that I believe in

infinite possibilities. But more there were just parts of myself

that I had to get really comfortable with. And the whole

kind of stepping out onto any sort of platform, even something

like social media can feel revealing to ourselves. So have

the conversations in with your safe people in your safe places.

Create the safety within you to know that you're okay. You're

You're perfect as you are. And the world needs you. It at the

planet needs you. Yeah, sure does. Yeah. Well, I love that.

Christina, is there anything else that comes to mind? Before

we wrap up today?

No, I feel like we were kind of all over

the place. But I love that. And I think if anything for, you

know, for your audience, and this, this circle that you have

created and are creating, you know, I would just encourage and

invite others to bring somebody with you. And it's vulnerable

for even people to participate in conversation. And so, you

know, look outside yourself, and maybe lend a hand to somebody

that might need to be invited into something. Because I think

that we all are craving, as you said, these deep connections

right now,

I love that too. Because with the deep need

of the world right now, it is the it is the multiplying and

the exponential. And that's I mean, I, I'm gonna say to the

listeners to please, you know, I'm gonna have you share

Christina, but check Christina's work out through her podcast,

through her book through, you know, anywhere you can find her

because I love the podcast and your bite size, it's you taking

on a concept and infusing your experience with it, and then

sharing the wisdom that came from it. And it's, it's really

fun to listen to. And that's where i That's why I'm so

attracted to you too, because you've got the the foundation of

mystical sister hood is joy and healing and community and that

those two things can co occur. I really believe they can. And

that was born out of my health journey. And I'm like, Yes, I

want them both. I want to do the healing work. I was a joy. So

you

get to write Yeah, not just but isn't it

funny. And the last thing I'll say where you started in your

journey, right? And where you thought you were headed, and you

were wise enough to expand and grow and be around the right

people. And so it's kind of like, Don't ever stop that

curiosity, right. Don't ever think that either we can't or

right. And again, the only way that we I think have competence

to do this when we're surrounding ourselves by people

like you appro quite vital. So thank you for that. You do. And

thanks for having me today. Yes.

So where can people find you, Christine?

Where can

they find me? They I won't go down the

some of the places they can't find me these days. But you can

find me on Facebook. You can find me on LinkedIn, you can

find me through my podcast, as Maureen had mentioned, probably

will be in the show notes or something. And I have a weekly

newsletter. So you can always subscribe to that. And you know,

the blogs find each other

beautiful. So I'll put it all in the show

notes. I have to say a huge thank you. It's been so fun to

talk to you today. So enlightening, and thanks so

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