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The Doctor and the Dumbass
Episode 114th February 2024 • Afraid to Ask • Afraid to Ask
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check 1 2 well

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hello there boyfriend

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how are you

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this fine day

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I'm really good

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is it working

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yes excellent

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let's not touch shit

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I'm afraid to ask but I have a great question

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I don't even know what I was gonna say

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I'm so disturbed right now

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I guess the I guess to me the podcast is um

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let me put it this way

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I was trying to figure out what to call it

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do you know like everyone has a podcast

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like this probably isn't a good idea

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like everyone has a podcast

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and so what I wanted it to be

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what I thought really truly encapsulated the the

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like the theme of the podcast would be if it was called

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um asking for a friend

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so questions that you might have that are like

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medical or embarrassing to the point where you go

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all my friends having trouble getting an erection

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like what type of pills would I take

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do you want me to tell you what to do right now

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Jamie for that or yeah

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my honestly

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my buddy keeps asking yeah

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that's a bullshit

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that's unfortunate for me to be learning it right now

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it is it is

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but isn't that weird

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so I looked it up

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so I called you and I said

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I think I have the name for this

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podcast where we can answer these questions

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it could be called asking for a friend

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and you said oh

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that's not bad yeah

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you weren't as excited as I wanted you to be

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but you were like

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that would that will do

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you're very honest

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by the way well

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I think I wasn't excited

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because I hear that all the time

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like it's my reality

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people lie all the time oh

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my friend has this no

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you have it

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which I that's why I like to the name of it though

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cause you heard it all the time

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which I would like to get into

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what if you hear that a lot

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and what types of questions those are

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but so as far as the name of the podcast

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I go on Spotify and I search

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asking for a friend as the name of a podcast

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there's four or five podcast called asking for a friend

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My Friend wants to know ask for a friend like okay

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so talking to some people on my uh

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on my team about what we should call the podcast

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I'm very eager right now

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I hate I just let me just call

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I hated that

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I just said my team

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I hated I just said my team

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I just didn't know what to say

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I was gonna say my manager

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but then that sounded

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I didn't like the way that sounded

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I was talking to I was talking

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you're delaying the inevitable

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I wanna like hear what you came up with

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okay so well

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he comes up with

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and I told him I told him you're not gonna like this

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and I'd like I'd like to know if I'm right oh

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great and if so why

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he goes dude

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I got he goes get ready

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I'm gonna tell you what I think the name of your

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podcast should be

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but I don't want you to be offended wait

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this is a professional

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this is my manager okay

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I'm his client

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he supposedly loves me and has my best interests are

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and he's also he's had very good ideas in the past

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and so he says

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I have an idea for the name of your show

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but I don't want to offend you

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it's a great lead up isn't it

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what do you do you have any guesses to where I'm going

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why can't I get it up

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no oh he said you why don't you call it

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are you ready

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and he went through not just this

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but a bunch of them he goes

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why don't you call it something like the

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the doctor and the dumbass

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oh my God no

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and I said I

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I wouldn't mind that because I get

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I get that it's like oh

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it's this doctor who knows things

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and then this is comedian

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no but I I go

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my girlfriend

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I'm offended

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would not like that at all fuck no

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I'm offended

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you know what I liked about you was how smart you are

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I don't I don't

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I don't I think like I don't feel that way

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but but like

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I thank you well

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your timing is impeccable

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and your wit is there

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but you also read people and read audiences

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and what I saw when I watched you live was like

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how you change everything

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to meet the needs of the people that are there

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and a lot of people may okay

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they're book smart

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but they're fucking idiots

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I feel like

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you are well read

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oh you're smiling

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look at this

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you're very well read

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and you have read more than I have

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and that really blew me out of the water

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so yeah doctor

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the dumbass no go

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the reason I'm smiling is No. 1

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it's always nice to like

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get a compliment

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I'm of course

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super uncomfortable with compliments

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I want I want to do it

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oh I'm sure though

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that is coming right around the corner

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but I was tempted to argue with you just now

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and instead

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I just decided like oh

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that's like a nice thing to say

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the reason I'm really smiling is

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that's what I knew you would say

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of course like

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when he said that I go oh

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you don't even

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like on godfold when I go

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oh you know

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I thought whatever

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I don't like self deprecation

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when you could just simply state

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a fact and let people make their own decision

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which would be a positive one

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so I say to him

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I'll be honest with you

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I didn't tell him the truth

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I said I go

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I think that's kind of funny

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I get it I'll talk to my girlfriend

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but I don't think she's gonna like it

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and I didn't tell him why

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so then he goes

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oh no there's more he goes

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what about like

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the doctor in the douchebag

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oh my God well

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I hate that for two reasons okay

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is it to do with

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is a douchebag a derogatory

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yes I don't think I ever really thought about that

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what is a douchebag

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it's like an idiot

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do you know what it is

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like you mean

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what is an actual thing

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yeah I would guess that it's some sort of

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like a cleaning type of thing like a

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I don't know what you would do with it

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I don't know

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I don't know what it is

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wow douchebag

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wow bunch of douchebags

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is it can I ask you a question

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is it is do we still use the term douchebag or is it

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is it an old

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what's the collective we

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I most certainly don't

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so what is it

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well I think the derogatory

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derivative is someone who's an idiot

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yeah but I mean

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like what is a

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why are you

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why would you be offended

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is there what

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is there what is it

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what actually is a douchebag

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it's implied

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that you are ridiculous

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and I don't know

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it's a negative connotation

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and it's a reference towards women

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that's what I'm

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that's what I'm getting at

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only women do they teach

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right I mean

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you shouldn't

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and most women don't

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you should not do

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you should not

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it's an archaic

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thing that was created

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because women were taught that vaginas were dirty

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which they are not I mean

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I'm pretty sure that you like mine

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yeah you know

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who recommended my vagina

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who recommends that

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people use douchebags

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ha ha ha bunch of fucking douchebags

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you can't say that

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the reason I don't like the term is because it is

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it basically is like oh

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you're a horrible person

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and you do something for your vagina

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it's like pussy

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I hate that word

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just saying it

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disgusts me well

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we'll agree to disagree

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we don't say

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I love your pussy

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we say you are a pussy

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and it's negative

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same with douchebag okay

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I've said I love you

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why don't we

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make that terminology for Viagra

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you piece of shit

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you can't get it up on your own

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you're Viagra

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that makes way more

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or you're like yeah

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you that makes way more sense I mean

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think about it

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in general a vagina

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I don't want to say the P word

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I just feel weird saying that in front of you

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just because I know it makes you comfortable

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but think about what a vagina does

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how strong it is

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how it has a baby

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it's a ridiculous

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it's ridiculous

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uh thing to

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to call someone

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I could see how you get offended

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my only thing would be

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douchebag if it

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is an archaic practice

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does it not

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at some point

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get freed up

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for the Urban

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Dictionary to call someone a douchebag

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or you think that

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they're still in practice

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and you can still find them in certain drugstores oh

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so women still

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occasionally

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will use them

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although we advise

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against them

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so they're still being utilized

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is it a cleaning thing

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yes okay but

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why do you have to clean something

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that's great

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so you're saying

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now keep in mind

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I'm not a doctor

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are you saying that

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if you are getting a douchebag

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medical term

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there's there might be some under

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something else going on

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do you wanna know why women typically

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use douches

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do you know okay

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first of all

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do you know what it is

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we didn't get back to that

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do you know what it is

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my ex wife would

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date douchebags

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is that weird

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no oh you're not

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you're missing the whole point what

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why would they

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why would someone

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is it for is it cause

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they're going on a date

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you could well

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the whole practice

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is to cleanse

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the vaginal

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cavity right

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why are you laughing

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I wasn't laughing

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I actually swallowed my water

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you know what I'm gonna say

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you're being a fucking douchebag okay

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I'm sorry please continue

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I was not laughing

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I drank a sip wrong cool

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I'll remember that later

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I'm gonna do that

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when you ask me if it was good for me tonight so

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most women use them

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it's like a squirting device typically

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and it rinses everything

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they use it after sex

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they use it to get rid of your shit

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after sex yes

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to get rid of all the semen

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all the ejaculation that is in their body

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that's from a guy

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so I still don't understand like

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why people say you're a douchebag well

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I'm getting rid of your shit

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I'm not a weak woman

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but it still has that connotation that women are weak

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or women are dirty

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and that's why I hate it okay

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I I accept that

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it makes it makes sense so anyway

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the podcast will not be called

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The Doctor in the

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dumbass or the doctor in the douchebag

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but I'm about to tell you something

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that is going to blow your mind

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my mind what

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so when we wanted

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when I wanted to call it

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asking for a friend

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and I searched it

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I was slightly upset

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I knew it wasn't your favorite name for the podcast

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maybe not mine either

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but I felt like it truly was a

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was a good description of what it might be

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sure what I did was I googled it

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I went on Spotify and I searched podcast

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and there was already a podcast called you know

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asking for a friend

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there are two

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podcasts called the doctor and the dumbass no

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there aren't

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and there is one podcast

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who's the dumbass

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it's it's the same

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it's that same dynamic of a doctor and a regular person

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there's also

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the doctor in the douchebag no

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there's a doctor in a dummy

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a doctor in a douchebag

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and a doctor in and a

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and a dumbass

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it's already exist

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are they a comedians

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no I think one

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what's here's the problem

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with starting a new podcast

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you if you start a podcast

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and you do through like 10 episodes

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it's on Spotify

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pretty much forever

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and so there one of them

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the doctor and the dumbass

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like I'll bet it's the dumbass

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you forgot to take this thing down

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but their last episode was probably 10 years ago

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they did 10

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they got no one listened

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it has no reviews

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that's the name that comes up if you Google the podcast

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so I mean could you

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could we take it and do the same name

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like I guess so

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but that felt unoriginal to me

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I don't like the name

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but that's you're not a dumbass okay

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well thank you but

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I think we did find it certainly not our first choice

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our first hundred choices were taken

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I don't think so

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I'm not even gonna lie to you

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what you dropped today when we were shopping

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my favorite one

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oh yeah okay

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so I wanted something

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I said I think I like where we're going with this

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but I want there to be

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I want you to know like what it's about from the name

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I want you to know it's easily searchable

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uh huh and and so it's uh

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it's uh afraid to ask yeah

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where I ask and I

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I play the part of the guy that doesn't know

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I don't know a lot about medicine

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and I do have questions and I

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but I'm not afraid to ask

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I'll ask you anything

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so you know

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we'll get into questions like from

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especially if something was from

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comes from personal experience between us

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we will ask questions like

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like what is blue balls

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is there is there a um

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is there an actual medical term of blue balls

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like do women get blue balls

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like is it a real thing

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like stuff like that stuff

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so will eventually be taking questions

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from people that have stuff that are afraid to ask yeah

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and with that

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cause I really wanted to call it asking for a friend

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cause that like really intrigues me

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I don't get embarrassed

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like I don't get embarrassed

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like if I had trouble

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anytime at the doctor wait

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are you giving me like

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you don't believe me

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like is that not true

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that's correct

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do you think I get embarrassed

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of course you do

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in that situation of asking about like

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not to be like

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if I couldn't get an erection

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which I'm I never had that issue before

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but if I did

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I don't know if I date no winner

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I don't know if I would have

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have had I had a problem with it

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but maybe that's not okay for me to say

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cause I've never been there

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but I've had other things where

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I don't know if it's from being on the radio

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for a while

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you just kind of get

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or doing comedy

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you get used to just like talking about

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just this afternoon

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a friend of mine messaged me and he said

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he goes hey

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would you do me a favor

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and I go yeah

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and he goes

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would you write an affidavit

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is to prove that me and my wife are married

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he goes we need it for like Argentina

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and he goes

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just say that you were with us

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when I asked my wife to marry me on Catalina Island

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all I gotta do is like

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write a little thing that says you were with me

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and I read it and I write back

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hey dude honestly

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it just sounds a little bit

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I just wanna do something like illegal

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like I'd be

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I'd be happy to

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to do this but like

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let's find a date when I didn't have a show like

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cause what if they could

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what if they issue her some sort of license

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and then they find out I had a show that night

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and I wasn't there

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and then he leaves me an audio message that says dude

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what the fuck are you

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that actually happened

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it's a real story

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I didn't make it up

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and you were there

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you were there

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this actually happened

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and so I felt like a jerk

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but I fast up to it

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you did immediately

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I'm proud of you

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it was not embarrassed

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I couldn't wait to show you

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what a fool I made of myself yeah

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well listening to his voice message was hilarious yeah

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that was amazing

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I like it when people call you on your shit

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which is why I'm excited to do this

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because I feel like

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a lot of the stuff that I don't talk about in medicine

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needs to be talked about

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a lot of my platform is talking about

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the scary or uncomfortable

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because so many people get

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intimidated to go to the doctor

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and they don't tell me anything

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they just say

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oh yeah I'm here to

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have my blood pressure checked right

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and they have all these other questions

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but they're too scared to ask

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I only get those questions from you or my close friends

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like and I think everybody deserves to ask them

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and deserves to have them answered

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but in a fun way too yeah

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like wouldn't you wanna like

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I don't know

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hang out with your friends and like

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find an answer to like any penis question under the sun

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wow oh you like that one

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by the way there's three podcasts already named

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any penis question under the sun

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there's three different

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okay okay well

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I'm women's health

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so I'm not gonna give you too much penis stuff

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and if I have to

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I'm probably gonna look it up

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vagine inquiries

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I will give you

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we'll edit that out yeah

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no why would you edit that out

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well I'm glad I'm done with my terrible vagina idea

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vagina diaries it's fine

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so you can say douchebag diaries

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I'm happy with you okay

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but thank you

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first of all

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for coming to my defense

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on the douchebag

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dumbass thing

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I'm actually not familiar with that

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in a relationship or someone

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supports you and does nice things to you

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and um so you

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so you were saying

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you get you get people that come in

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and they don't wanna ask you questions

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and I for sure am that guy that

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do you get a lot of people that are like

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I don't wanna get this test

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cause I don't wanna know yeah

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well cause what comes to mind for me is

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cancer yeah

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yeah and I was thinking

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I just got a colonoscopy scheduled

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I have in a couple weeks

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and why did you get that scheduled Jamie

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cause you freaking

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told me over and over and over that I needed to do it

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or I would have never done it

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that brings up a really good point though

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if you weren't dating a doctor

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would you have done it

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I don't think you would have

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no and I'm not trying to give myself credit

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I just feel like a lot of people are so afraid

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they won't do it

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and they need that little push yeah

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and would you say

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if you're gonna

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it almost doesn't make sense

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and I'm saying

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I do this and it doesn't make sense

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it doesn't make sense to go

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I don't wanna know what's going on on there

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because the earlier we find something like this

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the if something was going on with my

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I don't know

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what could happen

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from the colonoscopy

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I don't see

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I'm afraid to ask well

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I really am

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like I don't

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I almost didn't

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you're just lucky

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that the guy who's doing it

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happens to be a personal friend of mine

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so he's gonna take you to dinner

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before he proves your asshole

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oh that's nice

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yeah I know

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I set it up nicely for you

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is it weird that

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it's your friend

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I got your back

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I think it's a little weird

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why you're not looking at your dick

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yeah but let me

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is it because he

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this is what he does

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that is not

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strange yeah

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like if you're sensitized

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it doesn't matter

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like if there's another guy

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friend of yours

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and you were like

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oh I looked at your boyfriend's asshole

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and he was a

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photographer

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that would be strange

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unless he photographed assholes

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exactly so I feel

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I don't feel I do that

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I take care of my friends

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I do their vaginal

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exams all the time

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I look down there

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I touched and do procedures

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and if they're comfortable

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I'm comfortable

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I think the hard thing is that

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is the most

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sensitive thing in your entire world

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well that hurts my dick

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after hearing about you and your friends

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what is wrong with you

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I think so many think

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what in the hell just happened

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I'm sorry do you think

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you're never getting introduced to any of them now

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the ones you've already met

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I'm gonna let them flee the country

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it just sounds like an original

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beginning of a pornographic movie like oh

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thanks for seeing me

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my insurance

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you know it lapsed and we've always been friends

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this is so I apologize

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you were saying something serious and I do

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I I legitimately

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but you were saying

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you have to look at it in the perspective of the person

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who comes to see me

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they never come to see me on the best day of their life

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to see the doctor right

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so automatically

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you've taken time off from work

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you scheduled this

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you're probably nervous

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and then if you have a concern

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that happens to be in a sensitive area

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that's really shitty

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it is and you know

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you're gonna have to like

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strip down and show somebody stuff

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so for me when we talk about it

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it's a I'm in a whole different category

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even with my friends

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I go doctor mode

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I'm professional

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I give them every single treatment that they need

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the best care possible

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and then we can go to yoga afterwards and it's fine

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and then I have other friends

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who are uncomfortable

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and I'll say

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you know what

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like find another doctor

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I'll refer you just for that part of the exam right

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because some don't want me to see it

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um but I think the important thing is like

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you have to find somebody who respects you

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I mean that's a

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it's a huge trust issue

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did someone that respects you when they

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so examining you yeah

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you're super vulnerable to not

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and I would never make fun of a patient

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when I'm like afterwards

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like for that exam

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like it's so much trust that they're giving to me

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to get naked

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and have me examine something that they would only show

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sometimes one of the

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sometimes never right

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no one's ever seen them before right

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so you have to treat it with sensitivity

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and you're right

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I've had doctors where they were very dismissive

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or they said something extremely scary

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and then went

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okay take care

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you know like

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where you have like some sort of scare or something

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and then yeah

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you know if I feel like you've always been

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get your your

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I know you're good at that

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without having seen you do it in person

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I know that you

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you're gonna deliver

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but I've had guys were

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he said that to me

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and then everything ended up being fine

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but like no

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whatever it's called

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like bedside man or empathy yeah

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I think what's really difficult to is

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you catch doctors on good days

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and bad days

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we're people too

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and I think people forget that

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like I can have a really shitty day

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where I haven't slept at all

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maybe I had a horrible call

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um I've pronounced patients that I've loved dead right

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like I've done CPR

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it hasn't worked

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it usually doesn't work

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thank you movies

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for fucking that over

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fuck you Grey's anatomy

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but the point is

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at the end of the day

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I have to keep doing my job

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and people expect me to be robotic

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and that's difficult

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and everyone has a hard job

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I'm not like some heroic person

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like I respect everyone under the sun

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I don't think I'm better than anyone

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I just mean

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a lot of people don't think of doctors as

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people who can fail

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or have personalities or have personal lives and we do

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so sometimes when you see us

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maybe we've just gotten really bad news

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maybe we just had a relationship

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that we were in fall apart

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and that happened to me

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maybe we've had something

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devastating happen with a patient

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and I just got off the phone

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telling them that they're not gonna

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survive another month

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and then I have to go to someone who's like

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I don't like the color of my hair

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how do I fix it

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and if we seem a little callous

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it's not that we're dismissive

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it's that we're dealing with really tough stuff

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but there's no way

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I would be like

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fuck you dude

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I don't give a shit about your concerns right

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I just told someone they were gonna die

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so it's challenging in my job

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because there's a balance

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but a lot of the times

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people also expect me to be

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superhuman hmm

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and I'm not

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I have a lot of faults

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never thought about that

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and um oh well

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I've got a lot of them

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this is a terrible analogy

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I want to ask

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also you said

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I'll give you the terrible analogy in a minute

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oh wonderful

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you said you said

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like fuck you

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Grey's anatomy oh oh oh

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so you're saying it's not

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realistic to expect just all good looking

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nurses and doctors to

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together all the time and still

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handle other tasks

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oh I love you

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and this is probably gonna bug you

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but I've definitely hooked up in a coffin before oh God

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so uncomfortable

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it was one time

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and I don't even wanna continue

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I feel fine

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it's not like that

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all that granted

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all of my scrubs

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I like are Grey's Anatomy scrubs

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in a what room

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you looked up

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in a what room

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a call room

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I don't know what that is uh

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so like a huge hospital

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like 20 stories tall

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you finish everything for the night

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nobody needs you

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you have a pager

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in case an emergency happens

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okay and then

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you very well could sleep for like

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eight hours

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or get paged every minute

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can I see a weird

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medical question

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sure what is it

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when you have like

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your stomach hurts and you

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your face is flushed

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is that always jealousy

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cause that's what I have

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those are the

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symptoms it's not

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I'm just kidding

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I waited to say that one

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it wasn't okay

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you know I don't need to know

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I didn't fully hook up

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how about that

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I just made out with somebody

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I just made out with somebody okay

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fully hook I was about to

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I was gonna ask what is hook up mean to people

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and I was literally afraid to ask but I love okay

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you didn't do you want to know the truth though

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not no sure

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I don't know

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it was like 15 10 years before I even met you calm down

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what is wrong with me

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so essentially

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do you know what it's called

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do you know why this doesn't happen

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because we're talking about Grey's anatomy

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we're not talking about what oh

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do you know what it's called

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when I if I were to actually get jealous of

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I'm not gonna lie

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I do get have an uncomfortable feeling

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and then my mind goes dude

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you're crazy

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that was a long time ago

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but there's like this primal brain that does the thing

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well you have a base of motor

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response and facial flushing

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essentially

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you're having more blood rush to your face

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you're upset yeah

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sorry it rushed to somewhere else

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which really made me think about what do I like

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what do I not like

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did rush to somewhere else or we no

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some people like that

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okay I don't

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it's called I

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I heard it called retroactive jealousy

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which is like some sort of weird jealousy that you get

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that had nothing to do with you

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that's irrelevant

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that happened before

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you're even a part of the person's life well

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I think that's fair though

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because it's difficult for a lot of people to

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picture their partner with someone else

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even though they're not cheating

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and having a long time ago

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you know that like your partner's not a virgin

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but you're like fuck

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I don't wanna ever think about you with someone else

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and that's a valid point um

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so when I fucked this guy

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just kidding so Jesus

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what's a full hook up if that's what you guys did

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no but this is what I'm trying to say

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so like you have all night long

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but you didn't

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there was a partial lock up

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we went into a call room where there's like bunk beds

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you tried to sleep and I made out with him

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my scrub stayed on okay

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and you're dating an innocent girl

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believe it or not

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I'm such a such a child

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my clothes stayed on his clothes stayed on

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but but oh yeah

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that one the fuck well

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I won't tell you the other story then

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so what's the other story

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I don't have one

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I just like messing with you God

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I hate Jesus

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but here's the reality

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could you prescribe me

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can we take a break

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you prescribe me Xanax when I know

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so when Xanax bad by the way

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we should revisit that yeah

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in a lot of cases God sorry

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why I don't like medical shows

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is because of so many inaccuracies that they portray

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this one for prime example

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I had all night long

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I'd finished everything

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every patient was taken care of like

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I would never leave a patient if they needed something

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like everything is checked right

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a million times

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doctors are like crazy crazy

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about like being overprotective with their patients

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it's my responsibility

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so I'm not gonna leave somebody

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but by the time like everyone are

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do you think all doctors are like overprotective

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pretty much

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like is that a

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I think so like

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did he wear two condoms

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oh wow I'm sorry

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that was you continue forced that in there

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so did he so that one hurt my feelings

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sometimes I start the joke and then all right

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so it so hoping it does actually happen

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it doesn't happen

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because I just made out with him and that was it

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and then I had this fear that a patient would need me

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and so did he

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and we're like we're done

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what are we doing

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thank god for that fear to hit both of you guys

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we made out for like two minutes and it was done

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because no one

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realistically has all night long to just hook up

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like you are like running labs and running

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codes and taking care of people

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and you know what's funny

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that whole night

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nothing happened

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I went back to my room

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and I sat there for like six hours

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and then so I came up

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my attendings came

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the other like doctors came and we rounded on patients

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and did everything that you would normally do right

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but what I don't like is they make it seem like

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everyone's hooking up and having sex with everybody

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we don't have time to do that

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we don't even have time to sleep right

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I that's so interesting

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I I've never seen Grey's Anatomy

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so I'm speaking just from like

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I actually haven't either

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promos and stuff really

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we just know from what we

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from like um

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clips that I've seen

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it irritated me that everyone was super attractive

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doctors don't look like fucking 10 models

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they don't right

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that's when you say but you do

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I was going to

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and then I'm like

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is that you didn't

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you missed it

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I just set you up

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and you're the most attractive doctor I've ever seen

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I just felt like

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cause you're my girlfriend

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but you didn't swing and miss

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you didn't even fucking swing at that okay

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that's cool

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so do you wanna hear the real call room story

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is there really one

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you can tell me if you want to no

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okay um this

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is for for my time

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I want I listen listen

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as far as jealousy goes

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I wanna say this for real

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there I think there are sometimes I get

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the difference in emotions and feelings is hard for me

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to um describe sometimes

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what did I do

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you just like

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bumping industry

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I'm gonna knock over this whole table

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I don't give a shit if he knocks it over

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it's just I think there's a difference between

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keep in mind

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I'm not I'm the dumbass

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you're not stop it

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I'm not gonna keep going

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if it bothers me

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if it if this

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I'm the person that's not formally educated

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medically trained yeah

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big difference than dumbass

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douchebag so

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here's what here's my

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here's what I

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it's debatable

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I believe that we have

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emotions and we have feelings and we have thoughts

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and I have trouble figuring out which one's which

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and I think sometimes

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for instance

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you say I know you're not a virgin

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you're an extremely attractive woman

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of course you have guys hit on you

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and of course

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you've had previous

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relationships

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and great sex and good times

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and there's been guys who all it's your

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I hope so if not

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who would I be dating if

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you've never had an experience like that

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so that's all kind of obvious and part of the game

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but I think there's

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I don't know if this happens in women

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there's a thing that will happen to me

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if you say oh yeah

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I was with this guy once in like

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he's kind of a douchebag and like

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he's got me out of his yacht

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and when his Ferrari

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I get my chest will tighten up for a second

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in a weird ego

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almost like a jealousy

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even if it was a current

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that that's

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more retroactive jealousy

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but if it was current like oh

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I ran into this guy and he's my friend

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and like oh

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he's really attractive

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there's like this weird thing you get

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but sometimes for me

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I can't control it so I'll go

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I saw what happened right there

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I'm I'm feeling jealous because

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I love this woman

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I I maybe I felt like a threat from my primal brain

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and then you move on with your life

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and I don't think we should

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we need to beat ourselves up over like

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that feeling

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I think it comes for me

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it's about how long

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does that feeling last

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what is the refractory period between like

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a weird reaction

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like even anger

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like I wanna

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like road rage

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it's okay to get super mad in the car

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just don't follow the guy and beat him up

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like I think it's okay to have that and you're

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I think we're all working on

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the period of time

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when the reaction happens to

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to to just the

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whatever action you take

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I think it's also um

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you have to put in perspective

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so like the story that I just

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told you was

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less than five minutes right

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and my medical training was

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eight years right

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in eight years

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I had five minutes

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right to kiss somebody

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but even so

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I'm insane for

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even having the

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that thought at all

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but it's yeah

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I understand that

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but I I think also like

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what if I told you like yeah

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that happened every day right

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that would be

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a little more problematic

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I would worry about the patients

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at that point

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so would I but the

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the story is like yes

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at one time

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I was like hey

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maybe I should see if Grey's anatomy is true oh

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nope it's not

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I got shit to do right

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that would not have even made it in the script

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you're you're

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there is not a great ending to your

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I don't think

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they would have

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picked up the series with that one

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so don't be jealous is my point yeah

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and I bet and you know

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that's easy to say that's not fair

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you can feel however you want to feel

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but my point is doctors in general are nerds

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we don't have social lives

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and we try to be cool and then we fail at it miserably

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I think you're pretty cool

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your friends are cool

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I met many of your doctor friends

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that's nice

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I like my friends

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I meant as a whole as a whole

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when you want a doctor who's nerdy oh yeah

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I actually get stuff on my social media about like

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if you're posting this

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why aren't you reading a book

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you should be having like

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you should be studying more

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you should be researching more

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I don't want a doctor who's fun and enjoys herself

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yeah and I think what people are missing is

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you also don't want a doctor who does nothing but study

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because those are the ones that usually burn out

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they're exhausted

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hmm they have no balance with their work life

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and honestly

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sometimes they're asked to make more poor decisions

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because they're so fatigued

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I want a doctor who's happy

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enjoys their life

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so when they come to work

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they are fucking on point

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and then when they leave

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they balance it out

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not they're so exhausted

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they come back to work the next day

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and they haven't even left the office and they're tired

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and they're not looking at their charts with fresh eyes

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right so I think you have to also

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and this is

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this goes for way more than just medicine

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but like everybody needs a balance right

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100% your job

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hundred percent

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you need a balance

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are you gonna be funny every day if you're exhausted

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yeah no not at all

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you're absolutely right

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you need those days off

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I've never felt less funny

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I don't wanna say what tour it was

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but you came on tour with me

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and when I started that tour

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it was my first

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one where I ever sold like a lot

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of shows in a row

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I sold out and like

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right at the beginning of it I was like

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this is the life

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like I have

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this what I've always wanted

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like so and by the end of the tour

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the the amount of energy required for me to be

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just to feel like I was funny at all

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if you're in the same

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fucking jokes every night

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come out of my mouth was

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it was really hard

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it was it was 12 days in a row

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and I remember thinking

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I don't wanna

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I don't think that he has too many

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I think it's got to be 10

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you gotta you gotta refill the well

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as they say creatively

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you gotta punch out

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I was impressed

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go to the beach

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I thought you were just as good day one as the last day

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I was there but um

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I could totally respect that and understand it

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yeah you get tired

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people get really fucking tired

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I I get scared

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here's what scares me

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Eric and I mean

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no offense by this

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oh great say

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I'm a comedian

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oh this is a

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fictitious story

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okay wonderful

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well I don't like them very much

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I know that about you

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I had to say that

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because people will think

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you're making a joke and you're

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you've never been a huge fan of comedy

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I haven't fascinating

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so I think you guys are mean

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what do you mean it

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you know it's

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we have to talk about this real quick but do you

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I think that's

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from the way comedians are portrayed on social media

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it's all crowd work

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it used to be

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we would just stand up there and deliver and act

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I'm not mean to people

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even when I mess with people

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I mean but on the internet

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I mean to doctors

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but guess how many views I've gotten online

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not very many

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nobody gives a shit

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when you're nice to a guy

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they wanna see

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like somebody

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destroying somebody

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yeah me and by the way

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me and Erica met

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because I kind of

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because I did a whole thing

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like a crowd work thing on doctors

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you know I was just thinking that

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and afterwards

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you came up and said

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I just insulted you

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I'm a doctor

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did you I did

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you know why

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I didn't notice

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cause it happened so often

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that's not fair

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I said I don't like comedians

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because they're mean

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but why did I come up and talk to you afterwards

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because you specifically

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made fun of doctors

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my kind of specialty by the way

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not just any doctor

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family medicine

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so you uh hmm

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but not in a

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but not in a

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but not in a cruel way

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you weren't nice

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but it I wasn't

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ha ha ha ha

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I don't remember what we said well

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I was afraid to go to a comedy show and get picked on

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and singled out

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that's what I

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think happens to people

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so you're right

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the crowd work is different

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here's my question

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okay you ready

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and I don't want you to

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I don't think I'll ever be ready

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but go for it okay

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so here's my question

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in all of our jobs

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we do get exhausted

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and some people think oh

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as a comedian

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you only have to perform like an hour a night

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sometimes what

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you know what

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it was like

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you must be fine

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but sometimes we've driven five hours that day

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sometimes I

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I have flown to a gig recently

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where I didn't have time to change

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I went right to the gig with a hat on

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and did not change it to go right on stage um

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last weekend

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I drove to show that had already begun

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and I went went up um

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so there is exhaustion

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now as a comedian

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the I thought

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my last show

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I felt like I put it together

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and I don't know if anyone would have noticed

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but if I'm really tired

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the worst thing that could possibly happen

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I would think would be

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I forget a joke

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I don't put as much energy into a bit

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and they go oh

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that's pretty good

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but like like

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what I'm saying

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see the worst case scenario

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I'm exhausted

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I fall asleep for a second

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in some insane scenario

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there's just a moment

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where there's no

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where there's no dick jokes being told

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no one's harmed or hurt

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or whatever

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which leads me to my question

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which is you

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you DOC doctors

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depending on the specialty

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our work is

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and especially in residency

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I think are so

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were are so exhausted

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at all times

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and I would think

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mistakes might happen

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maybe there's something you can't even talk about

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but like have you ever been

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what's the most tired

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you've ever been

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like well seeing a patient or yeah

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if you don't mind saying

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yeah yeah so um

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they have duty

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restriction hours now

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so essentially

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um this organization

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came together for that exact

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reason and said

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you know what

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they're working too hard

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they're gonna make errors

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they have to sleep

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so I don't even know what it is now

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I wanna say

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like 16 hours

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don't quote me on that

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cause I don't know

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I haven't been residency recently

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but after so long

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you have to go home

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which is kind of crazy

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that's so a lot

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with me um 16 yeah

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that's still a lot

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you in one day

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but you can still work um

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I think it's

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like for me

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it was different um

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the longest I ever worked

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straight without sleeping

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was 32 hours

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shit and um

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the worst rotation I ever had in 30 days

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I had two days off

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damn so we were getting there at 4:00am and leaving

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between 7 and nine PM and you don't report it

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cause then they get in trouble it's

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it's a long thing

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but you're you're shamed into you're too tired

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you can't do your job

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everyone else does it

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people are gonna die if you fuck up

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so don't fuck up

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but what they don't realize is you're exhausted yeah

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you're in a close call well yeah

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oh yeah yeah

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I've made mistakes

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all of us have you ever almost just not off

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you're talking to a patient

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and they're telling you something

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and you almost just close your eyes

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I've fallen asleep

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you know this story

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I fall asleep in the or

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I was the first to say oh

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that's right

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yeah yeah yeah

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and that's the hard thing

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I was I had to wake up at 3:30

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I was going home at ten PM

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for a surgical rotation for a month

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and I was the first assist

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meaning the first person after the main doctor

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and this person was cut open from sternum to pubic bone

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essentially

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got it open

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and my job was to hold a retractor

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so this is like the big tongue kind of things to hold

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the body cavity open so the surgeon

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can cut without everything closing up again

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but that's a lot of force

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so I was standing there

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you were the retractor yeah

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you had the retractor

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you were in charge of that

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that's I didn't know that part

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okay oh yeah

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so I got to help cut open everything

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as the first is this

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I get to do

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I like how you say

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got to like

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that's the doctor

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I loved it yeah

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I love and wasn't it also

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I still love my job

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wasn't it also an opportunity

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almost like a

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he chose you to do that as someone sometimes

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sometimes you're assigned or like the other doctors

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like drop off and like

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you're the only one

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like one time the assistant

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like the other doctor was gone

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and I got to break a nose

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and they never let you do that from the beginning

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I got to fucking smack the shit out of it

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wow cosmetically

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it was so cool but anyway

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I digress so yeah

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I'm like retracting this person open

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hadn't slept

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probably in a couple of days

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um only because at the end of it

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you have to like take tests

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so I would study after a 15

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20 hour work day

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it was it was crazy

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so I'd stay in the car room

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I'd study I'd go home for a couple hours sleep

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and then shower and come back

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so I was standing up and I

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I fell asleep standing up holding these retractors

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wow and they closed up

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and the surgeon slapped my hand

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and he's like

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what did you

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and I'm like

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oh you just like

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he did this surgery and you're doing this

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and he's like

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oh very good

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didn't catch me

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but that's not bragging rights

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I I kind of want it like no

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I I have a necessity to invoke

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restrictions on how

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much you work because of how dangerous it is

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yeah and again

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I'm a person I'm not AI

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I fuck up all the time

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and then you take sleep out of the equation yeah

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into the equation

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depending on how you're looking at it

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and I'm deprived of reparative

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regenerative sleep

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I'm gonna fuck up even more yeah

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isn't it true that if you don't sleep for

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isn't it like if you pull an all nighter

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you can't just go to sleep more tomorrow

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you're messed up

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isn't it like you're almost drunk or something

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yeah that's the time I told you

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when I was driving to the hospital

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and I fell asleep with the wheel

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the only time I've ever had yeah

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something dangerous with driving

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I was absolutely sober

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but I was going to the hospital

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it was like 4:30 in the morning

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pitch black

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and I fell asleep at the wheel

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and I went over an embankment

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in the hospital and got stuck

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in the grass in this like 20 story hospital

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and woke up

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instead of being like

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oh I should probably like fix my car or call

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maintenance or something

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I just drove into the hospital

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parking lot and did my shift

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it's quite insane and I can't imagine it

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would you mind taking a question

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so uh here on

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afraid to ask

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you have a question coming in from

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this is from Jamie from Fairbanks

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Alaska oh my god

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coming up on the next

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episode of afraid to ask

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and this is a common

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fear in men

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I am telling you

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I have heard more men

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talk about this than any other kind of condition

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it is uh it's having to pee all the time

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oh how many times a day do you think you should pee

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you said that sometimes a doctor can be um

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tired or you know

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or wide awake or depending on their schedule

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that I know people say like oh

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buy a car on a Friday

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because they're trying to get new in

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but I don't know

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they say these things

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is there a certain day I would want to go

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I would if I had a big surgery

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I want to go see the doctor

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